Just a few.

 

nice job -- you know i always make some excuse to walk along park avenue. those views are really something else.

 

i also like it for practical reasons --  it has wide sidewalks and is much less crowded than the other streets.

Beautiful.

Elegant!

 

... i also like it for practical reasons --  it has wide sidewalks and is much less crowded than the other streets.

 

That's the nice thing about Midwestern cities & towns. Our sidewalks may be narrow, but they're never crowded!  :wink:

So lovely! I would move to NYC if I could afford to live in an environment like that.

So lovely! I would move to NYC if I could afford to live in an environment like that.

Think positive man!  You can do it!

So lovely! I would move to NYC if I could afford to live in an environment like that.

Think positive man!  You can do it!

 

Well, I have thought about it..........

So lovely! I would move to NYC if I could afford to live in an environment like that.

Think positive man!  You can do it!

 

Well, I have thought about it..........

 

Then man up and JUST DO IT! 

I'm moving to NYC after I finish up graduate school this December (another Cleveland brain drain here).. need to decide between the UES or somewhere like East Village or the LES.

I'm moving to NYC after I finish up graduate school this December (another Cleveland brain drain here).. need to decide between the UES or somewhere like East Village or the LES.

 

Are you loaded with cash?  The UES is EXPENSIVE!  Well in this day and age anthing from Battery Park to 135 Street in manhattan is pricey.  There are some spot bargains, but you will pay an arm, leg and reproductive organ in rent to live in Manhattan, Western Queens or Downtown Brooklyn.

 

Seriously, how much are you looking to spend a month for rent?

I'm moving to NYC after I finish up graduate school this December (another Cleveland brain drain here).. need to decide between the UES or somewhere like East Village or the LES.

 

Are you loaded with cash?  The UES is EXPENSIVE!  Well in this day and age anthing from Battery Park to 135 Street in manhattan is pricey.  There are some spot bargains, but you will pay an arm, leg and reproductive organ in rent to live in Manhattan, Western Queens or Downtown Brooklyn.

 

Seriously, how much are you looking to spend a month for rent?

 

Ironically, I think the real estate market has reached the point where the East Village is actually more expensive that the Upper East Side. Market rate studios in the EV are now at the $2,000/mo. mark! And we're talking about renovated (then again, perhaps not even) tenements. Even if you're spending the same amount on the UES, I would almost guarantee you're going to get more amenities (or should I say amenities, period) for your money. To give you some example of how ludicrous the housing situation has become in the city overall, even the Bushwick section of Brooklyn (just east of "hot," "trendy" Willamsburg), an area devastated during the great blackout 30 years ago this summer and considered a virtual slum for decades, is now being populated by artists and yuppie wannabes (not that those two groups should have anything in common!). And as is usually the case, greedy landlords and speculators are trying to force the long term residents (mostly poor and working class Hispanics/Latinos?) out, harassing them and trying to deny them the legal protections to which they're entitled. Disgraceful! In any case, good luck on your search; unless you're an investment banker or better yet, an aspiring hedge fund manager, you're going to need it.

eastvillagedon, good points, when I moved here in 97, my rent in Brooklyn Hts. was $1,550 for 1 bedroom w/den 1.5 bathroom.  I hated the apartment because it was a loft, but I had great "location".  the first year the rent went up $25. The second year, the when it was time for renewal, it went up to 1,775.  I thought....time to buy.  My best friend lived in Murray Hill/Gramercy Park, and his small a$$ one bedroom was $2,100 and that was in 98/99.  Apartments – 550 to 600 square feet – in those areas are easily going for $2,200-2,500. 

 

A woman who works for me lives on 65 Street, needed a reference letter from me for an apartment she wanted to get into with two room mates.  Their combined rent in 2005 was $5,400 for a ~1,200 square foot apartment and they had to pay to convert an alcove space and opening into a third bedroom.  crazy, right?  :wtf:

 

Eastern Williamsburg and Greenpoint are at the same place Clinton Hill, Bed-Stuy Heights and Western Crown Hts were a few years ago.  The rental market has just gotten very ugly in NYC and the sad part about it is the building/units aren't even nice.  Many people realize, once you get in the building the maintenance/upkeep of the building is bad and that you are just a dollar sign.  Landlords know if you don't like where you live and threaten to leave, there is another sucker around the corner waiting to rent the apartment you so badly want to vacate.

 

Manhattan has gotten so expensive that neighborhoods that people would not dream to live in just 5 or 10 years ago are now en vogue.  However, one things is constant.  The gays move first....then the stroller brigades are right behind.  Examples, Boreum Hill, Cobble Hill, Clinton Hill, Bed-Stuy, Williamsburg, Central Harlem, Hamilton Heights, Morning Side Heights, Dumbo & the Navy Yard.  Tribeca might be the only neighborhood where gays didn't start the revolution.

yeah i heard recently in the news that the manhattan average as a whole for a studio is $2k. it's nuts.

 

ks right now my suggestion would be queens...sunnyside, woodside, elmhurst. google around for rents.

 

my bug is those realtor inspired mini-neighborhood monikers really make me gag. nolita was bad enough but now there is a lot of nonsense being thrown around to divide up the city and sell it to move-ins. hudson heights takes the cake. aww - i'm sure they will eventually stick just like soho and tribeca did. sheesh.

 

so ks unless we scared you off the idea when you are ready let us know and we can help.

 

yeah i heard recently in the news that the manhattan average as a whole for a studio is $2k. it's nuts.

 

ks right now my suggestion would be queens...sunnyside, woodside, elmhurst. google around for rents.

 

my bug is those realtor inspired mini-neighborhood monikers really make me gag. nolita was bad enough but now there is a lot of nonsense being thrown around to divide up the city and sell it to move-ins. hudson heights takes the cake. aww - i'm sure they will eventually stick just like soho and tribeca did. sheesh.

 

so ks unless we scared you off the idea when you are ready let us know and we can help.

 

Hey we are just keepin' it real.  Actually Tribeca name makes sense.  However, the worst NYC renaming job is for the area around Columbia being renamed "morningside heights" just to make white folks feel safer was ridiculous.  Its harlem!

 

I still think you can find bargains in Upper Harlem and lower Washington Heights in manhattan and the Navy Yard and possibly Sunset Park in Brooklyn.

 

Yeah KS, we can help with everything except your rent!  :-D :wink:

^ come on now you said lower washington heights not hudson heights. we got a white guy movin in -- get with the program!

^ come on now you said lower washington heights not hudson heights. we got a white guy movin in -- get with the program!

 

ahh Si  Para el gringo - el nombre de la barrio es "hudson heights"    Bienvenida!!!

Haha wow.. anyways.. I'm graduating with my masters in finance so we'll see where I end up career wise, but I'm planning on moving in between Christmas & New Years.

LOL, my friend just moved from Bay Bridge to......Hawaii! I'm not sure where I might want to go. I mos def couldn't afford Manhattan.

Haha wow.. anyways.. I'm graduating with my masters in finance so we'll see where I end up career wise, but I'm planning on moving in between Christmas & New Years.

 

Worst time of the year to move to NYC.  Move in May or October.  However, in Finance you should stay in Cleveland you can do very well.

Step2me, those are some great shots- man do you get around.

 

I hate to admit it, but the older I get, the more I like the UES, especially the far eastern parts near Carl Schurz park.    Never thought I'd ever move north of 34th street, but that line keeps moving north as I get older and crankier.  Not sure how much tolerance I have left for dysfunctional transpo-regressive Manhattan (thank you f'ing state legislature for ensuring nothing changes inthe foreseeable future). 

Haha wow.. anyways.. I'm graduating with my masters in finance so we'll see where I end up career wise, but I'm planning on moving in between Christmas & New Years.

 

Worst time of the year to move to NYC.  Move in May or October.  However, in Finance you should stay in Cleveland you can do very well.

 

- No way I will stay in Cleveland, I've lived her for my entire life besides 4 years in college.. I need something new and different, NOT the midwest.

 

- Regardless if it's the worst time of the year to move, that's when I have to.. I don't have finals until the 2nd week of December, and no reason to move my stuff right after then have to come back immediately for Christmas with the family.

 

That's just my logic.

Step2me, those are some great shots- man do you get around.

 

I hate to admit it, but the older I get, the more I like the UES, especially the far eastern parts near Carl Schurz park.    Never thought I'd ever move north of 34th street, but that line keeps moving north as I get older and crankier.  Not sure how much tolerance I have left for dysfunctional transpo-regressive Manhattan (thank you f'ing state legislature for ensuring nothing changes inthe foreseeable future). 

 

Strap, that funny you say that.  If NYC, Manhattan in particular get any more expensive the people who are needed - the service industry - to really run this town, won't be able to live in the five boroughs.  I never want to live on the UES or UWS.  The UES residents remind me of the types neighbors I had growing up, old, white, rich and boring.  I would ask my fellow breathern to take away my "Titanium Gaycard" if ever sttated I was going to move too the UES, UWS, EV, GV or Chelsea.  

 

I thought about buying in Union Square, Gramercy Park and SOHO, but I couldn't find the right building.  I wanted to live in the building demi moore lived in, in "ghost"  lol.  I almost bought in Hells Kitchen but as I was researching the neighborhood, two gay bars open and I knew the queens would be marking their territory at any given moment.  I look at that area now and thank my lucky stars I didn't buy there!

 

So I settled in Harlem not realizing that the 125 Street area was "chelsea north" and now that prices downtown have gotten so expensive, the children have migrated Uptown Baby!.  :x 

 

Honestly, I don't know how mrnyc lives in Chelsea!

 

 

 

- No way I will stay in Cleveland, I've lived her for my entire life besides 4 years in college.. I need something new and different, NOT the midwest.

 

- Regardless if it's the worst time of the year to move, that's when I have to.. I don't have finals until the 2nd week of December, and no reason to move my stuff right after then have to come back immediately for Christmas with the family.

 

That's just my logic.

 

I can understand wanting to move and the need to explore something different.

 

Honestly, I don't know how mrnyc lives in Chelsea!

 

 

i dont -- i live on the wv side of the street -- so dont go blamin me for running the gays out of chelsea. yes sir it's so much different on this side of the street you wouldn't believe it - lol!

 

 

Honestly, I don't know how mrnyc lives in Chelsea!

 

 

i dont -- i live on the wv side of the street -- so dont go blamin me for running the gays out of chelsea. yes sir it's so much different on this side of the street you wouldn't believe it - lol!

 

 

to hell...straight to hell with you!  LOL  WV - Chelsea...same damn difference!

I can understand wanting to move and the need to explore something different.

 

Well thanks for understanding :-p

 

Thanks for everyones input, I really appreciate it.

Great shots Step.

This one is so sexy it hurts!

 

Nice canyon of buildings.

Such elegance! Great pics.