^Sorry, I didn't specify, but I meant his legacy? I was not intending disrespect or anything

It's funny how midwesterners have long considered California a gay paradise.

 

Wasn't Wisconsin the first to enact state legislation banning employment and housing discrimination based upon sexual orientation? I'm thinking California followed a parade of about a dozen other states in that regard.

 

 

 

But California has mountains, beaches, ocean and warmth-----how many people do you know that look good bundled up in a parka?

Ooh, I would take a backwoodsman any day over a tight, tan little beach boy.

Ooh, I would take a backwoodsman any day over a tight, tan little beach boy.

 

 

It's funny how midwesterners have long considered California a gay paradise.

 

Wasn't Wisconsin the first to enact state legislation banning employment and housing discrimination based upon sexual orientation? I'm thinking California followed a parade of about a dozen other states in that regard.

 

 

 

This is very true, and I think to some degree we're still a very open state.  I would have no problem kissing my boyfriend in the middle of any main street in Wisconsin.  I may get into an argument in northern WI, but even then it'd be a rational argument.  Wisconsin has always been a very accepting place, we just like to keep a low profile. 

 

That's disgusting. Don't take it personally; I just can't stand when people make out in public period. People look like they're doing it because they know people are watching. I refused to make out in public with my ex girlfriend.

 

Yeah, but California has got Harvey Milk, so i mean that probably has something to do with it?

 

I still have to see that movie.

 

I saw it. I'd give it about a 8.5 out of 10. It starts off kinda slow moving and boring then near the end BAM! It gets really intense. I can't imagine what that guy had to go through mentally after having so many partners commit suicide. That's insane. I'm surprised the movie focused so much on his political career and not so much on his private life. I really liked how they integrated some old footage of the neighborhood and city. Also, the cast looked exactly like the people they represented in the story. At the end of the movie they show you what the real characters looked like.

wow david thanks for spoiling the movie for those who haven't seen it!

I don't think I spoiled that much. The movie is mostly about his political career.

But California has mountains, beaches, ocean and warmth-----how many people do you know that look good bundled up in a parka?

 

Ahh, but Wisconsin is scenic and beautiful, with lakes and hills and woods and rolling farmland. Summers are delicious, all the more so because they give respite from the rigorous winters. There's no shortage of good-looking men and most people are genuinely decent and friendly and good company. You're not likely to encounter a bunch of attitude there.

It's funny how midwesterners have long considered California a gay paradise.

 

Wasn't Wisconsin the first to enact state legislation banning employment and housing discrimination based upon sexual orientation? I'm thinking California followed a parade of about a dozen other states in that regard.

 

 

 

This is very true, and I think to some degree we're still a very open state.  I would have no problem kissing my boyfriend in the middle of any main street in Wisconsin.  I may get into an argument in northern WI, but even then it'd be a rational argument.  Wisconsin has always been a very accepting place, we just like to keep a low profile. 

 

That's disgusting. Don't take it personally; I just can't stand when people make out in public period. People look like they're doing it because they know people are watching. I refused to make out in public with my ex girlfriend.

 

Well, I wasn't talking about making out.  I hate that too.  But just a simple kiss would cause an uproar in most places.

 

But California has mountains, beaches, ocean and warmth-----how many people do you know that look good bundled up in a parka?

 

Ahh, but Wisconsin is scenic and beautiful, with lakes and hills and woods and rolling farmland. Summers are delicious, all the more so because they give respite from the rigorous winters. There's no shortage of good-looking men and most people are genuinely decent and friendly and good company. You're not likely to encounter a bunch of attitude there.

 

True, true, true.  The good-looking men with a genuine, honest, and easy going demeanor are ample and always in demand. 

 

The only downside is the ice.  My whole arm is numb right now after ice-scraping all of my sidewalks.

True, true, true.  The good-looking men with a genuine, honest, and easy going demeanor are ample and always in demand. 

Really?  Hummmm.

Stole this from Avatar-X @UER.ca, see if anyone can decipher it w/out cheating (because I can tell if you cheated):

Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo.

 

It's a grammatical sentence and actually has a meaning.

I'm guessing it's something dirty.

No, it's not dirty.

Check out the documentary they made back in 1984 called "The Times of Harvey Milk". Most of the kids in my film class were teering up when we screened it. It's still one of the best biopic documentaries ever made, and I think all straight people should be required to see it. It's one of those films that has the power to change opinion. Here's a link:

 

http://www.hulu.com/embed/FXDJNMRKRfBij4P5WyQ-2w

 

 

After watching the beginning of that link, Sean Penn really nailed that character, down to Harvey Milk's mannerisms. The way he moves his arms is spot on. If he won an Oscar for that boring Mystic River then I'm sure he'll get one for this role.

Interesting thing to think about:

The other day, my dad and I were at our local model railroad supply shop and I found an HO scale cellphone tower. I turned to my dad, showed him the model and said, "You can tell the times have changed. I bet they didn't have these when you were modeling railroads at my age." And he laughed and said, "No they did not."

I just thought that was kind of funny, especially since a lot of model railroaders still keep their models within the 1930's through early 1960's time frame.  

McDonalds blows!! They decide to stay open 24 hours and made BK lounge and White Castle close early and now at 3 AM they switch to breakfast WTF!! 

That might just be the McDonalds you go to. I go there late night sometimes for a chicken club. I've been in there past 3am without the breakfast switch-over.

Stole this from Avatar-X @UER.ca, see if anyone can decipher it w/out cheating (because I can tell if you cheated):

Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo.

 

It's a grammatical sentence and actually has a meaning.

 

 

I don't understand that.  I don't get how the last buffalo is used.  Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo makes sense to me, and Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo makes sense to me.  But the six buffalo version has me lost.

This has me perplexed too; only solution I can come up with is:

 

(Since) Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo; (then) buffalo buffalo.

 

[since Buffalo(city) buffalo(animal) buffalo(verb) Buffalo(city) buffalo(animal); then buffalo(animal) buffalo(verb).]

You can't post a riddle like that when you know damn well every single one of us is going to just Google the phrase!

Hater.

I'm just saying

So David, my boyfriend and I (might) be going to Cincinnati this week.  Where do you live?  ...and is there a park bench?  I might get an urge.

So David, my boyfriend and I (might) be going to Cincinnati this week.  Where do you live?  ...and is there a park bench?  I might get an urge.

 

Lord you kids.

So David, my boyfriend and I (might) be going to Cincinnati this week. Where do you live? ...and is there a park bench? I might get an urge.

 

The worst is couples waiting for trains at subway stops all across America. Keep it in the circus!

This has me perplexed too; only solution I can come up with is:

 

(Since) Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo; (then) buffalo buffalo.

 

[since Buffalo(city) buffalo(animal) buffalo(verb) Buffalo(city) buffalo(animal); then buffalo(animal) buffalo(verb).]

 

Pretty close, I think. But the correct answer is Bison from Buffalo, New York hoodwink bison whom bison from Buffalo, New York also hoodwink. Right?

 

 

It's an analysis of the social pecking order of Bison in the Buffalo New York area.

all this talk of buffalo is making me hungry

all this talk of buffalo is making me hungry

 

Buffalo wings anyone?  lol

I made X's Buffalo wings from the recipe thread. They were the bomb.

Went to Niagara Falls last summer and stopped for some original wings and a Beef on Weck at the Anchor Bar.  They lived up to their reputation!

I made X's Buffalo wings from the recipe thread. They were the bomb.

 

Thank you, thank you.  Glad you enjoyed.

There is a buffalo farm in new richmond, i think about 30 minutes outside of cincinnati in new richmond!

I'm taking this to off topic.

 

It sucks. It's ugly and it belongs in Toronto. I've never seen such a large scale building of high importance with a gross, simplistic pattern wrapping around it. The building is dehumanizing. Don't get me wrong, it definitely fits. New York isn't about erecting buildings as monuments. It's purely about money. If NYC truly valued quality architecture and civic concern at the time it was built, they would have just kept the old Pennsylvania station which was just..absolutely stunning. I'm sure Madison Square Garden will be demolished as soon as the city figures out what can replace it at a higher assessed value. Buildings like that in Manhattan only last 30-40 years. The old Pennsylvania station only lasted about 50. It's time is up.

 

You just can't argue for the existence of Madison Square Garden unless you're strictly talking in terms of economics. Look at these Corinthian columns. I'm offended and I don't even live in New York.  :|

 

 

This is unforgivable!

 

 

I'm sorry, but you have NO clue as to what you are talking about in regards to Toronto. If you're going to trash talk a city, then atleast trash talk one you've spent more then a day or two in! Toronto is filled with beautiful buildings! I especially like their station. It may not be Penn Station, but its still very nice! And yes, I prefer Penn Station over the Garden as well!!!

 

Toronto doesn't have an abundance of 1960s/70s buildings? Obviously the city isn't just comprised of that - no city has architecture from only 2 decades but there is a lot of buildings from the same time period as MSG, in Toronto that haven't seen demolition.

 

It sucks. It's ugly and it belongs in Toronto. I've never seen such a large scale building of high importance with a gross, simplistic pattern wrapping around it. The building is dehumanizing. Don't get me wrong, it definitely fits. New York isn't about erecting buildings as monuments. It's purely about money. If NYC truly valued quality architecture and civic concern at the time it was built, they would have just kept the old Pennsylvania station which was just..absolutely stunning. I'm sure Madison Square Garden will be demolished as soon as the city figures out what can replace it at a higher assessed value. Buildings like that in Manhattan only last 30-40 years. The old Pennsylvania station only lasted about 50. It's time is up.

 

You just can't argue for the existence of Madison Square Garden unless you're strictly talking in terms of economics. Look at these Corinthian columns. I'm offended and I don't even live in New York.  :|

 

 

This is unforgivable!

 

 

funny but it's not just old penn station --- every single building in that first picture is gone. c'est la vie.

 

 

That's probably why I also mentioned Penn Plaza and the fact that most buildings in Manhattan (especially Midtown) only last 30-40 years. However, the loss of Pennsylvania station for the sake of MSG was one of the top 10 worst decisions in planning history.

Yes, Toronto does have historical buildings, but the fact is that the newer ones completely overwhelm the older ones, so at first glance it appears that the whole city was built in the last few decades. The reason for this is that until the 50's Toronto was sort of a staid British Commonwealth outpost, a far cry from the bustling, diverse place it is today. That's when immigration policies were liberalized and huge tides of newcomers transformed the city; hence, all the newer buildings that dominate the skyline. I remember when the Royal York Hotel, along with the old Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (I don't know if that's even still standing) were the two prominent buildings downtown. As far as preservation is concerned, a number of years ago they almost tore down the old city hall! But it was saved. I have family in Toronto going back 3 generations.

 

It sucks. It's ugly and it belongs in Toronto. I've never seen such a large scale building of high importance with a gross, simplistic pattern wrapping around it. The building is dehumanizing. Don't get me wrong, it definitely fits. New York isn't about erecting buildings as monuments. It's purely about money. If NYC truly valued quality architecture and civic concern at the time it was built, they would have just kept the old Pennsylvania station which was just..absolutely stunning. I'm sure Madison Square Garden will be demolished as soon as the city figures out what can replace it at a higher assessed value. Buildings like that in Manhattan only last 30-40 years. The old Pennsylvania station only lasted about 50. It's time is up.

 

You just can't argue for the existence of Madison Square Garden unless you're strictly talking in terms of economics. Look at these Corinthian columns. I'm offended and I don't even live in New York. :|

 

 

This is unforgivable!

 

 

funny but it's not just old penn station --- every single building in that first picture is gone. c'est la vie.

 

 

That's probably why I also mentioned Penn Plaza and the fact that most buildings in Manhattan (especially Midtown) only last 30-40 years. However, the loss of Pennsylvania station for the sake of MSG was one of the top 10 worst decisions in planning history.

 

yet at the same time its also one of the ten best decisions in planning history. it's destruction galvanized the modern preservation movement. so unlike other noteworthy structures it's loss was far from in vain, in fact it was heroic.

 

Okay, I have a question. Does anybody know where in Columbus you could find German tutors or German classes that are reasonably priced? I wanted to take Ger 101 at CSCC but CSU wouldn't allow it because its a 2 yr college. =-0( Any help is much appreciated!

Okay, I have a question. Does anybody know where in Columbus you could find German tutors or German classes that are reasonably priced? I wanted to take Ger 101 at CSCC but CSU wouldn't allow it because its a 2 yr college. =-0( Any help is much appreciated!

 

If you lived in Cincinnati, you wouldn't even have to look that up.

Man, I swear ... the Kroghetto is the most aggravating place to visit.

 

1) Everyone in there is extremely rude.

2) A lot of cars in the parking lot take up two spots.

3) It's too damn crowded.

4) Why only two lanes open when there are lines of people?

5) Why would some lady think that no one will notice her pissing near the street light.

6) Customer service on a scale of 1-10 with 1 being the highest, it comes in at a whopping 15.

 

yet at the same time its also one of the ten best decisions in planning history. it's destruction galvanized the modern preservation movement. so unlike other noteworthy structures it's loss was far from in vain, in fact it was heroic.

 

 

Source?

 

Places like Society Hill and and Beacon Hill were already being preserved in the 50s and early 60s. I don't think Penn Station had much to do with a nationwide preservation movement. I'm sure it had an effect locally but not nationwide, since efforts were already under way in so many different areas. The trend at the time was to invest in inner cities as they were decaying and pretty much bottomed out at that point. The government was more involved and banks made a lot of money off of it as well. From a book I skimmed through about development in Society Hill in the 50s-60s, that's actually sort of what spawned international investment in terms of urban development in large cities in the U.S. Historic preservation became popular at that time. German Village is a great example.

Man, I swear ... the Kroghetto is the most aggravating place to visit.

 

1) Everyone in there is extremely rude.

2) A lot of cars in the parking lot take up two spots.

3) It's too damn crowded.

4) Why only two lanes open when there are lines of people?

5) Why would some lady think that no one will notice her pissing near the street light.

6) Customer service on a scale of 1-10 with 1 being the highest, it comes in at a whopping 15.

 

Are you talking about Corryville? I'm guessing you are since it's way worse than the one in OTR - which is just sad. I've seen:

 

People smoke fat cigars in line with no one working there saying anything

 

Some woman accidentally ran her cart into something because the wheels were #$%@ed up on the cart and some cranky old lady said "I sure would hate to see you drive!" ...rude.

 

Man in customer service refused to give me my western union money so I had to pick it up at the cash advance place down the street. Thank God you can retrieve it anywhere in Ohio.

 

Little kids playin violins inside and sounding horrible as hell. It sounded like nails on a chalkboard. I guess it was some school performing or something and I'm sure people think it's cute to see kids play instraments but unless they're really good they need to keep it in the auditorium for their parents to hear.

 

Homeless/crack heads asking me for change in the frozen food isle

 

Just as much malt liquor as beer in their alcohol selection.

 

Lines going on forever during the first of the month. Especially at customer service.

 

 

I can handle ghetto but I can't stand super-ghetto. Corryville Kroger is a #$%#ing disaster.

 

 

I've been to the Kroger's in Price Hill, Over-the-Rhine, Walnut Hills, and Norwood. None even come close to Corryville on the ghetto meter. I think people who know better go to the Hyde Park Kroger. My room mate and I - along with a lot of our classmates would go to that one. It was funny seeing people we knew who live in Clifton, at the Hyde Park Kroger or Biggs off of the Ridge exit.

^ lol ... that's the one!

 

Sometimes I like going there purely for entertainment.

They'll have like 2 cashiers during peak grocery shopping hours. Lines going into the isles. I've heard "this is exactly why I go to Hyde Park" more than a few times. Hehe. Yet, you go to Hyde Park Kroger and there's like.. An Italian isle, a Mexican isle. You go to the deli and tell them you want a pound of roast beef and they don't just ask you how you want it sliced - they ask you if you want it medium or well done! It's amazing! I never knew you could get medium rare or well done lunch meat! They have a Starbucks which I despise, but at least if I liked Starbucks it would be there for me! I love you Hyde Park Kroger <3 .

This brings up a question I find myself pondering (irritatedly) often- Why is it that customer service seems to be so lousy in inner city retail/fast food locations?  Fresh foods seem to be of lousy quality compared to what I would expect in the suburbs as well.

I hate the Corryville and OTR Kroger. Inferior service, inferior selection. I actually travel out to Whole Foods and Findlay Market for most of my food, and Kroger Fresh Fare for other basics and needs. I don't expect to be waited hand-and-foot, but I expect to find a clean store, courteous employees and items on a shelf that aren't locked and gated off.

Hey, Ann Arbor will trade you two of our Whole Foods for a dumpy Kroger in the city anyday.  I'm a minority in this town saving that, but I could really go for some affordable food on my budget.  Otherwise we have our own version of the Findlay Market but it's expensive as well. 

You have a huge Meijers!

 

 

Anyone remember...

 

 

They had some cheesy slogan like "Give 'em a big bear hug".

 

According to what I'm reading, they couldn't compete with Meijer's prices. Wal-Mart moved into the grocery business and Kroger thrived from cherry picking better locations in metro Columbus.

For years we had three local chains; Maloley's, Rogers, and Scott's, that provided pretty decent stores with OK prices. Maloley's gave up to the chains first. Rogers tried to compete by going warehouse a la Sam's Club, but failed. Scott's held on, though.

 

Admittedly, they adjusted the quality of the shopping experience to maximize profits; in the towns that had a major competitor like Crap-Mart or Meijer, they'd have reallllllyyyy nice stores with beautiful produce. Where there was no competition, they put forth less effort.

 

Scott's was bought by Super Valu, and then by Kroger. Some things changed, like better prices on some stuff, but not nearly the wide selection like we had from Scott's very good in-house bakery, and some things make me want to yell at the manager. Every time I go in there, the store has been rearranged and stuff has been moved around. Successive rearrangements make less and less sense.

 

Example: Once upon a time, long ago, ice cream toppings were in the same aisle with the freezers that held ice cream. Now, they're two aisles away, with the candy. The teeny-tiny overpriced bottles and jars of toppings, that is. If you want the big 48-ounce squeeze-bottles of Hershey's Chocolate Syrup, those are in the baking supplies aisle. That was yesterday, anyway. Next time I look for them, they might be with the jams and jellies, or maybe the salsa, which is nowhere near the aisle with the chips. You want some dip for them chips? Look in the dairy department. Or maybe the deli, next week.

 

You want some honey? Look with the jams and jellies, right? Wrong. Check the aisle with the pickles, peppers, and olives. Toilet paper in the paper products aisle with the tissues and paper towels? Nope. Better check the pharmacy department for tissues. Who knows where in hell the TP went.

 

I emailed Kroger's customer service about it and got a nice reply that probably was sent automatically, saying my comments would be forwarded to the store manager. Probably forwarded to the trash folder.  :whip:

 

I do like the automated self-checkout lanes, though they need someone to smack the idiots who start to check out, and then leave a lane tied up while they run back to look for something they forgot  :-)

I *hate* the self checkout lanes.

(1) the automated voice is loud enough to audiably contact the international space station.

(2) the barcode scanner has never been cleaned.

(3) every single person in line is purchasing something age restricted, or requiring store assistance. That means a 10 minute wait for someone to come over and swipe through the 80 year old woman buying robatussin.

(4) the touch screen responds nearly as fast as a 1982 ASCII text screen ATM.

 

All I know is at 11 pm at the giant eagle in rocky river, 4 self checkout lines are slower than 1 live register.

LOL snowing!