Who all is playing Pokemon Go?

Dear every freaking person involved in office design:

 

Open work plans are HORRIBLE. Please STOP IT. Putting people in a big, giant open workspace with zero dividers, zero privacy and nothing to work from but a long conference table lined with monitors on both sides and maybe two drawers for personal belongings is DREARY AF AND NOBODY LIKES IT. It does not "promote communication." It just makes people feel like they are working in a fishbowl with zero privacy. How do you call and book an appointment for a delicate personal problem in a space like this? How do you take a call from a family member that a loved one has died or fallen gravely ill without everyone hearing it too and staring at you? How do you conduct business calls when other people are making calls right next to you. If your neighbor is sick? Guess what, everyone else around them gets to breathe in their germs all day as well. Eat at your desk? Everybody gets to see what you're having, smell it, hear it.

 

I really think the people who came up with these floorpans have never had to work in such a space.

Dear every freaking person involved in office design:

 

Open work plans are HORRIBLE. Please STOP IT. Putting people in a big, giant open workspace with zero dividers, zero privacy and nothing to work from but a long conference table lined with monitors on both sides and maybe two drawers for personal belongings is DREARY AF AND NOBODY LIKES IT. It does not "promote communication." It just makes people feel like they are working in a fishbowl with zero privacy. How do you call and book an appointment for a delicate personal problem in a space like this? How do you take a call from a family member that a loved one has died or fallen gravely ill without everyone hearing it too and staring at you? How do you conduct business calls when other people are making calls right next to you. If your neighbor is sick? Guess what, everyone else around them gets to breathe in their germs all day as well. Eat at your desk? Everybody gets to see what you're having, smell it, hear it.

 

I really think the people who came up with these floorpans have never had to work in such a space.

 

I didn't come up with it, but am partially involved in implementing for my company.  I like it.  I sit unassigned and frequently sit at a bench seating.

Facilitating commutation and cooperation is just what people are told is the motivation behind the open office setting, the real motivation is money. If you get a 4'-0" long sliver of desk with about 3'-0" behind you to move your chair around in, you only take up 20 square feet of space. If everyone gets a 6'-0" by 6'-0" cubicle that's almost double the amount of space per person. An 8-'0" by 10'-0" office is four times as much space.

 

But as a side note, the trade off is usually adding some extra rooms a normal office wouldn't have - small 40 or 50 square foot rooms that just have a chair and table in them for people to make personal calls or make loud conference calls. If your office doesn't have some of those, it's a poor design.

I hear a LOT of people online complaining about these designs and now that I've seen a couple of them myself on interviews, I certainly get why. It seems every space built out or designed in the last like 4 years seems to be doing this now and I agree it's 100% because it's cheap.

 

Personal calls don't work like that, go to a separate room to make them. I remember when a co-worker got the call that her dad had killed himself but nobody knew except the people immediately on either side of her because she was in an office with a door and had some privacy, certainly not the people down the hall or whatever.

 

With doctors, you call and ask to speak to them and then they call you back. What are you supposed to do, sit and wait in the empty office all day until they call you? Transfer the call in there and run over like a maniac through the office to get to the private room? It's just poor.

I'm not saying everyone needs an office. I have seen many types of cubicle type workspace designs where at least people have some semblance of privacy. This whole long flat tables with monitors on both sides and no dividers of any type is horrible I mean, you don't even have a wall to tack up a calendar or a picture of your kid or whatever.

^There's too many idea people out there and not enough executors these days. Idea people tend to multiply like rabbits at companies since they all like to hire each other.

I agree R&R.  It might depend somewhat on what your job function is, but I think open designs are awful for morale and keep you from getting as much work done as a more traditional cubicle setup.  Most of the people that think they're a good idea likely have a large corner office and U-shaped desk for themselves.

I remember my first cubicle -- the guy who had my job before me left a bunch of his pay stubs in the drawer.  He had been making $23.50 and I was hired on at $12/hr. 

Who all is playing Pokemon Go?

 

I'm not, but ... AEP urges Pokemon Go players to stay away from its equipment (which can kill you)

I agree R&R.  It might depend somewhat on what your job function is, but I think open designs are awful for morale and keep you from getting as much work done as a more traditional cubicle setup.  Most of the people that think they're a good idea likely have a large corner office and U-shaped desk for themselves.

 

They are the worst.  They might be more “efficient” if people were robots, but we sometimes need to simply focus.  The “communication” they promote is largely office politics type BeeEss, people who thrive on that rather than on accomplishing anything sometimes like them too.

It's like a typing pool almost.

YES. Except people aren't just tying up letters from someone's notes now, they are trying to put together sales pitches, website content, brochures, design and program websites, etc. I really hate the trend. Hate it.

Part of the problem with workplaces is that at any given time during regular business hours, most companies find that maybe 70% of the seats, at most, are being used. A lot of places are below 50%. Many people work remote, travel to meetings, work from home, etc. There are actually companies that use sensors in their seats, conference rooms, etc. to track utilization of their spaces, and if they never use more than half of their seats they downsize their building and get rid of half. They then get rid of the idea of a "permanent" desk. Everyone has to come in to work and find a place to sit, sort of like a high school cafeteria.

Way to make you feel valued. Not. There has to be a better solution than this. There are a LOT of people who do not ever travel for work. How about giving THEM the offices and permanent spaces and let the managers who travel a lot be in flexible, shared space.

I work for a company that, while very forward and innovative, is still stuck in 1993 when it comes to office amenities and presenteeism. You guys would be jealous of my 14x14 office with a U-shaped desk, two monitors, and windows. /bragging

 

There are drawbacks though. Interaction is sporadic. There are days when I say less than 50 words to a coworker. The part of town my office is in is a drag.

When I had an office, I easily went many, many days without talking to anyone. I loved it. I talked to people on the phone or via email. I would like to interact with people as little as possible at work, generally.

When I had an office, I easily went many, many days without talking to anyone. I loved it. I talked to people on the phone or via email. I would like to interact with people as little as possible at work, generally.

 

I don't even like the phone LOL.  I consider e-mail one of the greatest business inventions ever.  Immediacy of talk, permanent record (no saying different things to different people), supplementable with illustrations.

 

I especially like using a group e-mail as a "virtual meeting", it takes a lot of the politics and grandstanding out of getting things done.

Oh I hate talking on the phone. But this was a law office and lots of people the generation ahead of mine prefer that to email, plus it's a better way to interview people for an article than sending them a list of questions, so I did use the phone fairly regularly even though I hated it.

I wonder how many people who are making fun of Pokemon Go happen to be obsessed with professional sports. "The game you like is stupid and juvenile... but the game I like is meaningful and deserves billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies and I'm allowed to hate your entire city just because I don't like its sports team."

We've got a saying in the video game biz: "Be nice to the sports guys -- they're nerds too."

Omg today at lunch was torture.

 

So I'm in this coding bootcamp and sometimes during our hour break we have guest speakers come in, but usually from the industry, to come talk to us. They entice us to stick around with the free pizza, but this time was definitely not worth the free pizza.

 

This woman came in and gave an hour and a HALF long presentation (because our instructor was like "yeah, if it takes longer than an hour, that's fine, take as much time as you need." The presentation was about LinkedIn... How to get more views, the right and wrong things to put on it, how to airbrush your photo, how not to show too little teeth in your photo, how not to show too much teeth in your photo, the right color tie to wear, the types of groups to join to make you more popular on LinkedIn...just all this superficial, trivial or even just commonsense stuff.  She spent about 15 minutes talking about this site where you put your professional picture up and people judge you according to the level of confidence, trustworthiness, competence, your picture exudes. She also made LinkedIn out to be this popularity contest and although I understand the importance of social media networking in this day and age, it was just way too much and now we're all paranoid about just how superficial HR departments are.

 

I'm not sure I'd even want to work for a company with an HR department that is judging me for wearing a red tie while I'm proving to them I've designed MVC apps combining programming and markup languages.

 

This woman's presentation was absolute torture. She literally had like 100 slides about LinkedIn. Our instructor came back in the room after we were all sweating and staring at the clock in the bottom right corner of our laptop screens, displaying minute after minute that she had gone over the 1 hour mark and we were all screaming "Thank God you're back! Tell us more about arrays and Boolean expressions!" That's sad. He was like..."I had this planned all along!"  Hahaha...

 

My God. Since Obama shut down Guantanamo Bay and banned waterboarding, I think the U.S. military should just hire these folks as subcontractors who go around and do these meaningless presentations for a living. I guarantee you the ISIS terrorists, one hour into the slides will be like, "No, no!!! We'll tell you everything you need to know, just please, stop! F---ing stop!"

 

 

I don't give a rat's ass about Linked in or my "social media presence".  What none of these people get is that you need to do real stuff in real life that gets other people talking about you because you actually did something real. 

 

Or better yet -- do something real and don't tell anybody about it. 

 

 

I do use Linkedin from a recruiting standpoint, and to network (it's not a bad way of getting a soft intro to someone you're trying to get in touch with), but honestly, I spend about 15 minutes a week on it (unless I have an open position and I'm actively looking for candidates), and not once have I ever precluded someone based on their picture. It's more a means of seeing where they've worked currently or in the past and in what roles.

 

Well, maybe that's not 100% true. I had one candidate with a Linkedin pic that was professionally taken of him holding up a champagne glass in a toast as if to portray "look at me, I'm successful!!". That guy I didn't call back. Otherwise, unless your profile has a pic of you passed out with a penis drawn on your forehead, I don't spend much time thinking about it.

I don't give a rat's a$$ about Linked in or my "social media presence".  What none of these people get is that you need to do real stuff in real life that gets other people talking about you because you actually did something real. 

 

Or better yet -- do something real and don't tell anybody about it.

 

You sound like you just watched Make Happy.  Hahaha

Wasn't sure where to put this, but is anyone else going to be out and about during RNC? I am staging a very small protest Wednesday at noon in Perk Park and would love some support if you guys are going to be around.

Wasn't sure where to put this, but is anyone else going to be out and about during RNC? I am staging a very small protest Wednesday at noon in Perk Park and would love some support if you guys are going to be around.

 

I'm curious, is there a specific topic being protested?

Yes. We are demonstrating in front of the Westboro Baptist "Church" protestors with a counter-demonstration.

Yes. We are demonstrating in front of the Westboro Baptist "Church" protestors with a counter-demonstration.

 

I'll be in Mentor otherwise would be up for that LOL.  Don't count it staying small though....

It will be small. They are sending very few representatives and my demonstration is purposefully two people.

Yes. We are demonstrating in front of the Westboro Baptist "Church" protestors with a counter-demonstration.

 

Eww...Dear God, Westboro is coming into town? Please be careful around those lunatics.

Meh, they're not so bad compared to some other crackpot protesters. You never hear about them attacking people, blocking freeways, screaming at cops and law-abiders, or causing/enabling violence. Just a few dozen loudmouths that pop out of their shell a few times a year.

I know I'm reaching with this but does anyone remember the name of a bookstore that was located on Shaker Square circa 1989?

Yes 1989; I said I was reaching.

So I avoided downtown all week but I did take the Red Line Rapid from the east side to the west side, once, during the RNC. It was humorous! Did anyone else get to witness what a joke Homeland Security can be?

 

So I get on at Cedar-University Station. Once we get to the E. 34th St. Station, a Homeland Security officer gets on at one end and brisk-walks through the train car and exits through the other end of the train car, in a matter of 10 seconds. He didn't even bother with walking through the second car attached, but who cares. He's present. That's enough to intimidate terrorists.

 

While he was inside, he told us, "just making sure you guys aren't rolling in with anything." He barely looked at anyone, let alone inspected anything. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with police officers infringing on rights, as stipulated by the Bill of Rights/Constitution but considering recent events, I would have totally understood if he decided to search my back-pack; which was suspiciously bulging and over-packed with 2 laptops because I like to keep my coding projects on a separate machine (and I also had notebooks and a bag of Doritos, so you get the idea) but he didn't even notice it or anything else that anyone had on the train. I mean, no bomb-sniffing canines or anything! It was incredible. The only reason I think he would actually stop brisk-walking and inspect someone/something is if there was a blatantly middle-eastern person with a large object next to them that is blatantly a bomb! Not very comforting for a passenger headed underground, downtown! I wasn't that concerned about my personal safety, but come on. You get the idea. Why are these officers here?

 

Also funny was the fact that when he boarded, everyone tensed up and got really silent  (because people on the Red Line don't pay their fare) and when he left the train, tons of people on the train were cheering, saying things like, "phew, I thought it was Transit Police!" "Right? It he would have caught me, it would have been a wrap!" You see..in Cleveland, when it comes to paying your fare, the Health Line and Red Line happen to go through poor neighborhoods and yet the paying of fares at ticket vending machines are based on the  "honor system" for the sake of trains/buses not being held up by people having to insert money while they board and RTA says its cheaper to deal with fare evasion than to have someone at stations ensuring that people are buying passes. It's the most absurd thing I've ever seen. We all know how well the honor system works.  I've been using public transit for a year in Cleveland I've only seen transit police do their random fare checking at Red Line stations ONCE. If you skip buying your ticket, there is an EXTREMELY good chance of you not getting caught. Of course when it does happen, they end up catching a sh!t ton of people at once and it's comical to watch because the idiots who can't produce a train pass are often times also carrying drugs on them and you get to see the police search them.

 

Anyway, so I got off at W. 25th and there was like 7 or 8 more Homeland Security Officers at the station. They were all just huddled together in a circle. Every single one of them with their heads directly down, endlessly texting and swiping on their phone! It doesn't matter though. They're present and they look the part. They have their bullet-proof vest, badge and gun and that alone is deterring criminal activity.

 

This is actually really common now, with any officer. Most officers on patrol spend the majority of their time sitting in their cruiser and instead of keeping their eyes on what's going on around them, they just sit idle and play on their phone until they're dispatched.

I know I'm reaching with this but does anyone remember the name of a bookstore that was located on Shaker Square circa 1989?

Yes 1989; I said I was reaching.

 

Joseph-Beth at one point.  The Book Rack may have had a branch there too.

I know I'm reaching with this but does anyone remember the name of a bookstore that was located on Shaker Square circa 1989?

Yes 1989; I said I was reaching.

 

Joseph-Beth at one point.  The Book Rack may have had a branch there too.

 

 

I believe Joseph-Beth came later but It may well be The Book Rack we were thinking off. Thank you:)

 

Your tax dollars at work!

 

A few weeks after 9/11 I was waiting to board the Miller Boat Line ferry to go to Put-in-Bay. A Homeland Security officer pulled me aside and rifled through my backpack. I remember asking "What is it you think that I have in here?" He said he was checking for weapons, and we were on high alert because of the terrorists.

 

I'm so sure that Osama and Al Qaeda had The Perry Monument or the World's Longest Bar as their next target for destruction.

 

So I avoided downtown all week but I did take the Red Line Rapid from the east side to the west side, once, during the RNC. It was humorous! Did anyone else get to witness what a joke Homeland Security can be?

 

So I get on at Cedar-University Station. Once we get to the E. 34th St. Station, a Homeland Security officer gets on at one end and brisk-walks through the train car and exits through the other end of the train car, in a matter of 10 seconds. He didn't even bother with walking through the second car attached, but who cares. He's present. That's enough to intimidate terrorists.

 

While he was inside, he told us, "just making sure you guys aren't rolling in with anything." He barely looked at anyone, let alone inspected anything. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with police officers infringing on rights, as stipulated by the Bill of Rights/Constitution but considering recent events, I would have totally understood if he decided to search my back-pack; which was suspiciously bulging and over-packed with 2 laptops because I like to keep my coding projects on a separate machine (and I also had notebooks and a bag of Doritos, so you get the idea) but he didn't even notice it or anything else that anyone had on the train. I mean, no bomb-sniffing canines or anything! It was incredible. The only reason I think he would actually stop brisk-walking and inspect someone/something is if there was a blatantly middle-eastern person with a large object next to them that is blatantly a bomb! Not very comforting for a passenger headed underground, downtown! I wasn't that concerned about my personal safety, but come on. You get the idea. Why are these officers here?

 

Also funny was the fact that when he boarded, everyone tensed up and got really silent  (because people on the Red Line don't pay their fare) and when he left the train, tons of people on the train were cheering, saying things like, "phew, I thought it was Transit Police!" "Right? It he would have caught me, it would have been a wrap!" You see..in Cleveland, when it comes to paying your fare, the Health Line and Red Line happen to go through poor neighborhoods and yet the paying of fares at ticket vending machines are based on the  "honor system" for the sake of trains/buses not being held up by people having to insert money while they board and RTA says its cheaper to deal with fare evasion than to have someone at stations ensuring that people are buying passes. It's the most absurd thing I've ever seen. We all know how well the honor system works.  I've been using public transit for a year in Cleveland I've only seen transit police do their random fare checking at Red Line stations ONCE. If you skip buying your ticket, there is an EXTREMELY good chance of you not getting caught. Of course when it does happen, they end up catching a sh!t ton of people at once and it's comical to watch because the idiots who can't produce a train pass are often times also carrying drugs on them and you get to see the police search them.

 

Anyway, so I got off at W. 25th and there was like 7 or 8 more Homeland Security Officers at the station. They were all just huddled together in a circle. Every single one of them with their heads directly down, endlessly texting and swiping on their phone! It doesn't matter though. They're present and they look the part. They have their bullet-proof vest, badge and gun and that alone is deterring criminal activity.

 

This is actually really common now, with any officer. Most officers on patrol spend the majority of their time sitting in their cruiser and instead of keeping their eyes on what's going on around them, they just sit idle and play on their phone until they're dispatched.

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Re: Cleveland: Demolition Watch

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Funny, i was just looking at this building on Clark yesterday while at Popeyes (guilty pleasure).

 

 

Has anyone else noticed lately that even though Popeye's (my own favorite by far) has an "urban" reputation/image, they are exploding in the 'burbs while KFCs are more prevalent in the city?

 

 

In interior Columbus (inside 270), KFC closed all of their company-owned stores 4-5 years ago. Employees said that they just weren't making enough money. My theory is that since Columbus isn't a very religious place any more that KFC was missing out on one of its main profit centers -- the post-church giant bucket and mess of sides smuggle-back to Grandma's House or to the church basement. The other problem with a city full of transplants that is poor at retaining natives is that Grandma's House is in Stryker or Grandma's House is in Columbus and the grandkids are in NYC.

the post-church giant bucket and mess of sides smuggle-back to Grandma's House or to the church basement.

 

Made me LOL. We must've had the same childhood.

Popeye's closed a few urban stores in Cincinnati over the past few years, there are still a few urban KFC's left dotted around but their only customers are people who are not aware that Richie's Chicken exists.

In interior Columbus (inside 270), KFC closed all of their company-owned stores 4-5 years ago. Employees said that they just weren't making enough money. My theory is that since Columbus isn't a very religious place any more that KFC was missing out on one of its main profit centers -- the post-church giant bucket and mess of sides smuggle-back to Grandma's House or to the church basement. The other problem with a city full of transplants that is poor at retaining natives is that Grandma's House is in Stryker or Grandma's House is in Columbus and the grandkids are in NYC.

 

Chik-Fil-A would own that post-church market, except for that being closed on Sunday thing.

I'm not so sure. I suspect the bone-in aspect of KFC makes it juuuuuusst upscale enough for Sunday dinner. I also think that's why KFCs in the U.S. never have fries whereas in every other country they do. The presence of fries rather than wedges on the menu would push KFC that one step down here.

Popeye's closed a few urban stores in Cincinnati over the past few years, there are still a few urban KFC's left dotted around but their only customers are people who are not aware that Richie's Chicken exists.

 

Richie's has expanded...there is a relatively new store on Colerain right by Northgate Mall, as well as -- shockingly -- a Lexington, KY location:

http://www.richieschicken.com/locations/

 

Also, I'm stunned to see that the Vine St. store is actually Woolper Ave. address. 

 

 

I'm not so sure. I suspect the bone-in aspect of KFC makes it juuuuuusst upscale enough for Sunday dinner. I also think that's why KFCs in the U.S. never have fries whereas in every other country they do. The presence of fries rather than wedges on the menu would push KFC that one step down here.

 

The proliferation of "boneless" wings AKA chicken nuggets means the language surrounding traditional chicken has been complicated.  I hear "bone-in" fairly often, as well as the ridiculous jargon surrounding wing parts -- drums vs. slats, or whatever it is. 

 

The "bone-in" phrase is just so ridiculous, because it insinuates that the bones are inserted into boneless wings after having been removed by the same mysterious process that creates seedless watermelons, etc. 

^

The "bone-in" phrase is just so ridiculous, because it insinuates that the bones are inserted into boneless wings after having been removed by the same mysterious process that creates seedless watermelons, etc.

 

Jump to about 2:00 --

 

https://youtu.be/KYxXtKkqK4E?t=127

 

(Not-so mild language for our younger members)

I'm not so sure. I suspect the bone-in aspect of KFC makes it juuuuuusst upscale enough for Sunday dinner. I also think that's why KFCs in the U.S. never have fries whereas in every other country they do. The presence of fries rather than wedges on the menu would push KFC that one step down here.

 

The proliferation of "boneless" wings AKA chicken nuggets means the language surrounding traditional chicken has been complicated.  I hear "bone-in" fairly often, as well as the ridiculous jargon surrounding wing parts -- drums vs. slats, or whatever it is. 

 

The "bone-in" phrase is just so ridiculous, because it insinuates that the bones are inserted into boneless wings after having been removed by the same mysterious process that creates seedless watermelons, etc. 

 

I noticed once that Richie's charges a small fee if you want "peg legs only." I had never seen that terminology before. I always just used "wings" and "drumsticks" but I guess a lot of people use "wings" to refer to both types and had to make up another word for the actual wing portion of the extremity.

^

The "bone-in" phrase is just so ridiculous, because it insinuates that the bones are inserted into boneless wings after having been removed by the same mysterious process that creates seedless watermelons, etc.

 

Jump to about 2:00 --

 

https://youtu.be/KYxXtKkqK4E?t=127

 

(Not-so mild language for our younger members)

 

 

Nice.  I've never heard of this guy but it looks like we could bro out over this topic. 

 

I'm not so sure. I suspect the bone-in aspect of KFC makes it juuuuuusst upscale enough for Sunday dinner. I also think that's why KFCs in the U.S. never have fries whereas in every other country they do. The presence of fries rather than wedges on the menu would push KFC that one step down here.

 

The proliferation of "boneless" wings AKA chicken nuggets means the language surrounding traditional chicken has been complicated.  I hear "bone-in" fairly often, as well as the ridiculous jargon surrounding wing parts -- drums vs. slats, or whatever it is. 

 

The "bone-in" phrase is just so ridiculous, because it insinuates that the bones are inserted into boneless wings after having been removed by the same mysterious process that creates seedless watermelons, etc. 

 

I noticed once that Richie's charges a small fee if you want "peg legs only." I had never seen that terminology before. I always just used "wings" and "drumsticks" but I guess a lot of people use "wings" to refer to both types and had to make up another word for the actual wing portion of the extremity.

 

 

I've definitely never heard the term "pegs".  I haven't gotten food from there since 1999 or 2000.  I remember it not being very good and being mildly amused by the 10 year-old they had employed working the cash register. 

 

Down the road in the strip mall at Reading & Forest, there is a guy who cooks in the Chinese restaurant (Dragon City?) shirtless.  Dude is in full view of the carry-out counter, and presumably any health inspector.   

 

 

 

I'm not so sure. I suspect the bone-in aspect of KFC makes it juuuuuusst upscale enough for Sunday dinner. I also think that's why KFCs in the U.S. never have fries whereas in every other country they do. The presence of fries rather than wedges on the menu would push KFC that one step down here.

 

The proliferation of "boneless" wings AKA chicken nuggets means the language surrounding traditional chicken has been complicated.  I hear "bone-in" fairly often, as well as the ridiculous jargon surrounding wing parts -- drums vs. slats, or whatever it is. 

 

The "bone-in" phrase is just so ridiculous, because it insinuates that the bones are inserted into boneless wings after having been removed by the same mysterious process that creates seedless watermelons, etc. 

 

Right! I always thought that was weird. I thought it was just me!

 

I used to be a Service Manager at Donatos (the one in the Short North). Although we were known for pizza, we sold a sh!t ton of wings. Especially on game days. I've heard every nick-name for chicken, from customers. Wing-dings, drummies, flats, flappers, etc... Then of course you have wet wings, dry wings, etc. I'm sure I'm missing a lot more wing lingo. I hated the customers that wanted their wings "ran through 4x." They literally wanted them burned to a crisp. At that point, there's no juiciness to the wings what-so-ever. I never understood why anyone would want their wings burned so badly but it was really common. Customers would call you out if you only ran the wings through the oven 3x (which means they were cooked 25 f-ing minutes!)

 

"Bone-in" is definitely the standard name for "traditional wings". There's just no other word for it. I wonder why. Donatos actually calls them traditional wings and for a really good reason. When you take a customer's order over the phone, especially in the digital age when people are using cell phones with horrible reception instead of land-lines which actually have much better sound clearity and reliability than cel phones, there ends up being a lot of lost data packets during the conversation and just a lot of distortion/static. So when a customer says they want "Bone-in" wings, it ends up sounding a lot like "Boneless." It would happen all the time, where someone's order was taken wrong because even if you repeat it back to them, if you accidentally mistook bone-in as boneless, it still sounds like "bone-in" to them when its repeated back to them. Then of course the customer calls back and complains after getting their food, saying they wanted bone-in wings and now you have to refund their money and/or send them out the wings they actually wanted, which they have to wait another 45 minutes for.

 

I tried to cut down on food cost after identifying that problem and I had everyone refer to boneless wings as "bone-out" because if you ask the customer if they want their wings "bone-in" or "bone-out" they can easily hear the distinction between the two. When I'd say "do you want them boneless or traditional?" they would still interpret it as "bone-in or traditional."

 

Wings were the source of a lot of headache for me.

 

Whenever I'd talk to customers over the phone, I liked to use "bone-out" to refer to boneless wings.

 

 

The common term for over-cooked is "cooked hard".  I have heard "wet" also.  The opposite of wet, of course, is sauce on the side.  Some people want the sauce mixed, and it's common to have people split an order of 12 wings between two types of sauce.  I went to BW3's last week for the first time in years and saw that they now let you order a precise number of wings.  Like if you want 14 wings, they will give you exactly 14 wings.  Since you're all wondering, I had 6. 

 

I remember how phone quality suffered the instant that car phones and cordless home phones appeared.  A common cell phone today, 20~ years later, is hardly better than those.  A lot of old land lines with chords had fantastic sound quality by comparison.  My company recently got a new phone system and the sound quality went way down.  The main feature of the new system is that after calling someone else's desk, if they don't pick up, it goes to their cell phone.  So I guess we dropped $50k or whatever to make that happen.