Then she said, "Okay, which one is Cincinnati then?" I told her it's the much older, and more beautiful one.

 

 

Don't go there....

 

 

In case you're wondering why I'm in a pissy mood again, I'm getting friggin' tired of hearing that "I wear no pants..." commercial during the NBA playoffs. I can't hit the mute button fast enough!!

@Prok, OMG.  That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy.  She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids.  She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States.  This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her. 

@Prok, OMG.  That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy.  She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids.  She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States.  This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her. 

 

What an idiot!  What is the point of going to Egypt is you aren't going to embrace the culture.  She's married to an Egyptian?  And he allowed that type of talk? 

No, her co-worker was the one married to the Egyptian, he suggested his wife bring her friend along so she'd have someone to talk to since he was going to be speaking the native language with everyone.

@Prok, OMG. That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy. She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids. She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States. This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her.

 

What!?!  American's are seriously naive people. 

No, her co-worker was the one married to the Egyptian, he suggested his wife bring her friend along so she'd have someone to talk to since he was going to be speaking the native language with everyone.

 

oh ok.  i misunderstood that.  She' still a first class moron!

@Prok, OMG.  That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy.  She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids.  She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States.  This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her. 

 

What!?!  American's are seriously naive people. 

 

That similar to when I hear people say I love puerto rico, Dominican Republic,  Etc., and they never left the resort.

OMG, I just got out of an hour of torture.  I went to the dentist for a cleaning and there was a new hygienist.  I sat down in the chair and she asked me about myself.  Blah, blah, blah...moving to Cincinnati in a year...blah, blah, blah.  Then she started poking around in my mouth and started blabbing, "Oh, Cincinnati, that's where Case Western is, they've got a great school of Dentistry.  I almost went to school there.  Isn't that like and old, washed up industrial city though?  I thought it was really dangerous...." 

 

...

 

 

I once had a dental hygienist tell me where and when her child was conceived.  I can honestly say that I had not wondered or wanted to know.  She also made a couple of comments there slightly racist as well (specifically it was okay to go to a certain place because it's all white people).  I doubt the dentist would have appreciated his staff talking to patients like this.  It is also awkward when someone is working in your mouth and you can't say anything back.

 

@Prok, OMG.  That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy.  She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids. 

 

I wonder what the point is of going to a foreign country (or even a region of the United States) and and not even try the food.  I can't imagine travelling somewhere and only eating at places I can also enjoy at home.

Yay!  I passed my bar exam.  So now it's 327, Esquire.  Special thanks to everyone on this forum for helping me develop my persuasive writing skills.  The short essays on the exam bear a striking resemblance to UO posts!

@Prok' date=' OMG.  That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy.  She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids.  She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States.  This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her.[/quote']

 

Years ago, when I was preparing for a vacation trip to Austria, I'd tell people I was trying to learn enough phrase-book German to find the bathroom, get something to eat, or buy a train ticket. On multiple occasions people asked, "Don't they speak English in Austria?" The first time it happened, it took a couple of minutes for me to figure out that in the typical American mind, Austria = Australia.

 

On that trip, I had an amusing American-tourist encounter. My return home was an evening flight out of Munich. That day, I took an early-morning train to Munich so I could spend the day sightseeing and then take a bus from the station to the airport in time for my flight. Upon arrival, I stashed my bag in a locker at the train station. There I saw the American approach to language barriers in action; if someone doesn't understand English, just speak more loudly.

 

There was a customer-service window in the baggage-locker room where an attendant could make change and provide assistance. As I walked past, a very large American tourist dressed just like the ones in cartoons, who didn't know how to determine which lockers were empty or how to work them, was bellowing questions in English at the young attendant, whom I suspect spoke reasonably fluent English like most of the transportation employees whom I met, but who wasn't letting on. He was just looking blankly at the American.

 

The lockers were just like the ones we used to have in American bus and railroad stations, except that they accepted German coins instead of quarters. I tapped the big guy on the shoulder, motioned for him to follow me, showed him that if there was a key in the lock, the locker was open. I opened a locker, had him put his bag inside, dropped a coin into the slot, closed the door, turned the key, and handed it to him with an admonition to not lose it, and find the locker by the number stamped on the key.

 

He said, "Thanks. You sure speak good English." I smiled politely, thanked him, and went on my way.

I couldn't go back to the hairdresser again after the Egypt story.  She was just too dumb.

@Prok, OMG.  That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy.  She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids.  She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States.  This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her. 

 

What!?!  American's are seriously naive people. 

 

There are seriously naive people all over the world.

@Prok, OMG.  That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy.  She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids.  She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States.  This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her. 

 

What!?!  American's are seriously naive people. 

 

There are seriously naive people all over the world.

 

What I always find interesting is how many Europeans completely underestimate how large a geographic area the US encompasses. I always chuckle at the story that one of my former co-workers told me. His wife was the Kent State girls field hockey coach, and a few years back they had one of the girls teams from the Netherlands in town as part of an exchange program. They were going to a tournament, and were very excited about getting to see Miami. Many references of 'Miami Vice', and South Beach, etc. My co-worker had to explain to the girls that no, in fact this was Miami, OH they were going to, not Miami, FL.

 

http://www.entertonement.com/clips/nwngvhcvvk--Sad-Trombone

Yay! I passed my bar exam. So now it's 327, Esquire. Special thanks to everyone on this forum for helping me develop my persuasive writing skills. The short essays on the exam bear a striking resemblance to UO posts!

 

Congrats!  You'll forget everything you just stuffed in your head over the past several months in a matter of a few weeks.

What I always find interesting is how many Europeans completely underestimate how large a geographic area the US encompasses.

Agreed. My relatives in Ireland were surprised a few years ago that I have never visited my cousin in Anchorage and rarely see the relatives in upstate NY.

 

 

I once had a dental hygienist tell me where and when her child was conceived.  I can honestly say that I had not wondered or wanted to know.  She also made a couple of comments there slightly racist as well (specifically it was okay to go to a certain place because it's all white people).  I doubt the dentist would have appreciated his staff talking to patients like this.  It is also awkward when someone is working in your mouth and you can't say anything back.

Just wondering, did you say anything about this hygienist to the Doctor?  Do you still patronize this Doctor?

Just wondering, did you say anything about this hygienist to the Doctor? Do you still patronize this Doctor?

 

I did not say anything to the dentist, but I looking back, I probably should have.  I had been going to this dentist for years before this hygienist started working there, so I did not take this as a reflection of his office.  All other employees (including the dentist) are professional and very nice.  The hygienist no longer works there.  I do not know what happened to her.

@Prok, OMG.  That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy.  She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids.  She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States.  This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her. 

 

What an idiot!  What is the point of going to Egypt is you aren't going to embrace the culture.  She's married to an Egyptian?  And he allowed that type of talk? 

It's not just Americans. A woman who works at my neighborhood laundromat is from India and one day she was going on and on about how many major American fast food chains are all over there now, like this was progress! But I guess to them places like Dunkin' Donuts seem exotic and new.

@Prok, OMG. That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy. She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids. She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States. This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her.

 

Based on my experience working in a restaurant full of guests from around the world; there are no more ignorant, stupid, loudmouthed people in America when compared to anywhere else.

 

Bastards exist everywhere. :)

 

@Prok, OMG.  That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy.  She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids.  She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States.  This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her. 

 

What an idiot!  What is the point of going to Egypt is you aren't going to embrace the culture.  She's married to an Egyptian?  And he allowed that type of talk? 

It's not just Americans. A woman who works at my neighborhood laundromat is from India and one day she was going on and on about how many major American fast food chains are all over there now, like this was progress! But I guess to them places like Dunkin' Donuts seem exotic and new.

 

Often, the quality of fast food overseas is much higher than what they sell us here.

@Prok, OMG.  That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy.  She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids.  She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States.  This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her. 

 

What an idiot!  What is the point of going to Egypt is you aren't going to embrace the culture.  She's married to an Egyptian?  And he allowed that type of talk? 

It's not just Americans. A woman who works at my neighborhood laundromat is from India and one day she was going on and on about how many major American fast food chains are all over there now, like this was progress! But I guess to them places like Dunkin' Donuts seem exotic and new.

 

Often, the quality of fast food overseas is much higher than what they sell us here.

 

I wouldn't agree to that at all, EVEN with you starting that statement with "often".

@Prok, OMG. That sounds even more awful than the time I was getting my hair cut and the hairdresser was talking about having taken a trip to Egypt recently with her co-worker, who was married to an Egyptian guy. She ate at Domino's every day so she wouldn't have to "deal with any weird food" and they got robbed taking a camel tour of the pyramids. She was telling me how there are more people living in Cairo than in the entire United States. This is why Americans get branded as the worst tourists, people like her.

 

What an idiot! What is the point of going to Egypt is you aren't going to embrace the culture. She's married to an Egyptian? And he allowed that type of talk?

It's not just Americans. A woman who works at my neighborhood laundromat is from India and one day she was going on and on about how many major American fast food chains are all over there now, like this was progress! But I guess to them places like Dunkin' Donuts seem exotic and new.

 

Often, the quality of fast food overseas is much higher than what they sell us here.

 

I wouldn't agree to that at all, EVEN with you starting that statement with "often".

The quality is no better, but the portions are smaller. To get the same amounts of food as you get in America, you would spend through the nose. At least, this is true of Europe.

Today is a great day!  The wicked witch of Shaker Height has been evicted!  The bitch has gone down in flames Hard!  75% of my plan to destroy her is complete!

 

If I've said once....I've said it a thousand times.

 

 

What a great Bday present for my brother!

 

 

I also have to brag a little, even though it's going to be embarrassing to do so.

 

I used to be in pretty good shape before I got pregnant.  Despite a chronic back problem and mild asthma, I worked out a lot and had started running a few years ago.  I wasn't fast, but I was strong and over a couple of years, I ran three 5Ks. FF to us starting to struggle with fertility, then seek fertility treatments and I had to give it up. Then (happily, finally) got PG, definitely no running then. Since the baby's been born, I have had very little energy to do much of any working out other than occasional lifting and some walking at lunch.  Baby's not much of a sleeper and I'm just too tired to do it most of the time, and (TMI) with breastfeeding, it was physically uncomfortable when I tried to run early on.  A few weeks ago, I tried a lazy jog and it went ok.  Was forced by peer pressure to join a work team in participating in a 5K today; funds raised went to support diversity-related causes locally.  I figured I would just try to make it about a mile and then walk awhile, then jog again a little if I felt ok.  Having done this route as one of the 5Ks I was in a long time ago, I knew the beginning would be the toughest part as it started down by the Rock Hall, proceeded down marginal road a little, then back, and then up the 9th street hill. Which can be tough even if you're just walking fast.

 

I freaking made it the whole way.  The whole 5K.  If you're a runner, a 5K is not really considered that hard of a run, but for someone in my situation, this was a big deal.

 

Getting up the hill was unbelievably tough and most of the "back of the pack" people I started with stopped there and started walking (as did some who started out too fast), but I just took it really slow and took my time.  I felt pretty good til the end of the 2nd mile when my legs started to give out.  Surprisingly, my lungs and back still felt ok. I just made myself keep going as I knew there was a downgrade coming which would give me a little break, and after that, if I could just make it around the stadium, I'd be done.

 

Here's the embarrassing part.  I came in right at the 35 minute mark.  I know! So slow! But I don't care. I did it.  My face was tomato-red for several hours afterwards (bad O2 flow, it's genetic) and I had to take a nap this afternoon to even feel like a human again, but I did it! I'm so proud of myself! Not bad for a 41 year old, BFing, out of shape chick.

I also have to brag a little, even though it's going to be embarrassing to do so.

 

I used to be in pretty good shape before I got pregnant.  Despite a chronic back problem and mild asthma, I worked out a lot and had started running a few years ago.  I wasn't fast, but I was strong and over a couple of years, I ran three 5Ks. FF to us starting to struggle with fertility, then seek fertility treatments and I had to give it up. Then (happily, finally) got PG, definitely no running then. Since the baby's been born, I have had very little energy to do much of any working out other than occasional lifting and some walking at lunch.  Baby's not much of a sleeper and I'm just too tired to do it most of the time, and (TMI) with breastfeeding, it was physically uncomfortable when I tried to run early on.  A few weeks ago, I tried a lazy jog and it went ok.  Was forced by peer pressure to join a work team in participating in a 5K today; funds raised went to support diversity-related causes locally.  I figured I would just try to make it about a mile and then walk awhile, then jog again a little if I felt ok.  Having done this route as one of the 5Ks I was in a long time ago, I knew the beginning would be the toughest part as it started down by the Rock Hall, proceeded down marginal road a little, then back, and then up the 9th street hill. Which can be tough even if you're just walking fast.

 

I freaking made it the whole way.  The whole 5K.  If you're a runner, a 5K is not really considered that hard of a run, but for someone in my situation, this was a big deal.

 

Getting up the hill was unbelievably tough and most of the "back of the pack" people I started with stopped there and started walking (as did some who started out too fast), but I just took it really slow and took my time.  I felt pretty good til the end of the 2nd mile when my legs started to give out.  Surprisingly, my lungs and back still felt ok. I just made myself keep going as I knew there was a downgrade coming which would give me a little break, and after that, if I could just make it around the stadium, I'd be done.

 

Here's the embarrassing part.  I came in right at the 35 minute mark.  I know! So slow! But I don't care. I did it.  My face was tomato-red for several hours afterwards (bad O2 flow, it's genetic) and I had to take a nap this afternoon to even feel like a human again, but I did it! I'm so proud of myself! Not bad for a 41 year old, BFing, out of shape chick.

 

CONGRATS!  Who cares what others think!  Its for a GOOD CAUSE!  Thats the most important thing.  The naysers/critics - - ask what their lazy asses were doing!

I also have to brag a little, even though it's going to be embarrassing to do so.

 

I used to be in pretty good shape before I got pregnant. Despite a chronic back problem and mild asthma, I worked out a lot and had started running a few years ago. I wasn't fast, but I was strong and over a couple of years, I ran three 5Ks. FF to us starting to struggle with fertility, then seek fertility treatments and I had to give it up. Then (happily, finally) got PG, definitely no running then. Since the baby's been born, I have had very little energy to do much of any working out other than occasional lifting and some walking at lunch. Baby's not much of a sleeper and I'm just too tired to do it most of the time, and (TMI) with breastfeeding, it was physically uncomfortable when I tried to run early on. A few weeks ago, I tried a lazy jog and it went ok. Was forced by peer pressure to join a work team in participating in a 5K today; funds raised went to support diversity-related causes locally. I figured I would just try to make it about a mile and then walk awhile, then jog again a little if I felt ok. Having done this route as one of the 5Ks I was in a long time ago, I knew the beginning would be the toughest part as it started down by the Rock Hall, proceeded down marginal road a little, then back, and then up the 9th street hill. Which can be tough even if you're just walking fast.

 

I freaking made it the whole way. The whole 5K. If you're a runner, a 5K is not really considered that hard of a run, but for someone in my situation, this was a big deal.

 

Getting up the hill was unbelievably tough and most of the "back of the pack" people I started with stopped there and started walking (as did some who started out too fast), but I just took it really slow and took my time. I felt pretty good til the end of the 2nd mile when my legs started to give out. Surprisingly, my lungs and back still felt ok. I just made myself keep going as I knew there was a downgrade coming which would give me a little break, and after that, if I could just make it around the stadium, I'd be done.

 

Here's the embarrassing part. I came in right at the 35 minute mark. I know! So slow! But I don't care. I did it. My face was tomato-red for several hours afterwards (bad O2 flow, it's genetic) and I had to take a nap this afternoon to even feel like a human again, but I did it! I'm so proud of myself! Not bad for a 41 year old, BFing, out of shape chick.

 

What's that?

 

And I'm with MTS, congrats.  The time is not important.

thx!

 

BFing=breastfeeding, which may not sound like a big deal, but it saps you of your liquids, it burns 500-800 calories a day (a nice side benefit, but when you're running on top of it, very trying) and it goes on all night long, which, after 11 months, is pretty exhausting. 

thx!

 

BFing=breastfeeding, which may not sound like a big deal, but it saps you of your liquids, it burns 500-800 calories a day (a nice side benefit, but when you're running on top of it, very trying) and it goes on all night long, which, after 11 months, is pretty exhausting. 

 

he's walking/starting to walk right?

Congratulation on the run, rockandroller!  I was there too, but I walked the course.  Also a work-related thing for me.

No, he's not walking yet, just pulling up on everything and starting to cruise.  He literally just started cruising yesterday.

No, he's not walking yet, just pulling up on everything and starting to cruise.  He literally just started cruising yesterday.

 

Well that means you can stop breast feeding if he's starting to pull-up.  When he starts to walk, life as you currently know it will cease to exist.

No, he's not walking yet, just pulling up on everything and starting to cruise. He literally just started cruising yesterday.

 

Well that means you can stop breast feeding if he's starting to pull-up. When he starts to walk, life as you currently know it will cease to exist.

 

You crack me up.  I do not intend to stop for quite awhile.  My son is allergic to dairy, and also cannot have soy (allergies to the two go hand in hand) and while he might eventually outgrow it eventually, there's really nothing to wean him to right now that is more nutritionally beneficial than my milk.  The average age of weaning world wide is 4, did you know that?

No, he's not walking yet, just pulling up on everything and starting to cruise.  He literally just started cruising yesterday.

 

Well that means you can stop breast feeding if he's starting to pull-up.  When he starts to walk, life as you currently know it will cease to exist.

 

You crack me up.  I do not intend to stop for quite awhile.  My son is allergic to dairy, and also cannot have soy (allergies to the two go hand in hand) and while he might eventually outgrow it eventually, there's really nothing to wean him to right now that is more nutritionally beneficial than my milk.  The average age of weaning world wide is 4, did you know that?

 

FOUR?!  What kid is on the nipple at FOUR?!!  :wtf:  At three you can effectively communicate, IMO, there is no need for a kid to breast feed that long.

 

I assume you're expressing milk and freezing it at this point. 

 

I know my mom stopped after we were walking. She said I was "greedy" and having two kids breast feed at the same time was very hard.

Well, apparently, lots of kids.  Just not here in America.  Actually there are quite a few here, but they usually restrict nursing to times when they're home because of the opinions of those who think it's "wrong."

 

Unicef and the World Health Organization recommend that mothers BF for 2 years.  Here is some more info for you. 

 

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that "Breastfeeding should be continued for at least the first year of life and beyond for as long as mutually desired by mother and child... Increased duration of breastfeeding confers significant health and developmental benefits for the child and the mother... There is no upper limit to the duration of breastfeeding and no evidence of psychologic or developmental harm from breastfeeding into the third year of life or longer." (AAP 2005)

 

    *  The American Academy of Family Physicians recommends that breastfeeding continue throughout the first year of life and that "Breastfeeding beyond the first year offers considerable benefits to both mother and child, and should continue as long as mutually desired." They also note that "If the child is younger than two years of age, the child is at increased risk of illness if weaned." (AAFP 2001)

 

    * A US Surgeon General has stated that it is a lucky baby who continues to nurse until age two. (Novello 1990)

 

    *  "Human milk expressed by mothers who have been lactating for >1 year has significantly increased fat and energy contents, compared with milk expressed by women who have been lactating for shorter periods. During prolonged lactation, the fat energy contribution of breast milk to the infant diet might be significant."

      -- Mandel 2005

 

    * "Breast milk continues to provide substantial amounts of key nutrients well beyond the first year of life, especially protein, fat, and most vitamins."

      -- Dewey 2001

 

    * In the second year (12-23 months), 448 mL of breastmilk provides:

          o 29% of energy requirements

          o 43% of protein requirements

          o 36% of calcium requirements

          o 75% of vitamin A requirements

          o 76% of folate requirements

          o 94% of vitamin B12 requirements

          o 60% of vitamin C requirements

      -- Dewey 2001

 

    * Studies done in rural Bangladesh have shown that breastmilk continues to be an important source of vitamin A in the second and third year of life.

      -- Persson 1998

 

Nursing toddlers are SICK LESS OFTEN

 

    * The American Academy of Family Physicians notes that children weaned before two years of age are at increased risk of illness (AAFP 2001).

 

    * Nursing toddlers between the ages of 16 and 30 months have been found to have fewer illnesses and illnesses of shorter duration than their non-nursing peers (Gulick 1986).

 

    * "Antibodies are abundant in human milk throughout lactation" (Nutrition During Lactation 1991; p. 134). In fact, some of the immune factors in breastmilk increase in concentration during the second year and also during the weaning process. (Goldman 1983, Goldman & Goldblum 1983, Institute of Medicine 1991).

 

    * Per the World Health Organization, "a modest increase in breastfeeding rates could prevent up to 10% of all deaths of children under five: Breastfeeding plays an essential and sometimes underestimated role in the treatment and prevention of childhood illness."

 

Nursing toddlers have FEWER ALLERGIES

 

    * Many studies have shown that one of the best ways to prevent allergies and asthma is to breastfeed exclusively for at least 6 months and continue breastfeeding long-term after that point.

 

      Breastfeeding can be helpful for preventing allergy by:

        1. reducing exposure to potential allergens (the later baby is exposed, the less likely that there will be an allergic reaction),

        2. speeding maturation of the protective intestinal barrier in baby's gut,

        3. coating the gut and providing a barrier to potentially allergenic molecules,

        4. providing anti-inflammatory properties that reduce the risk of infections (which can act as allergy triggers).

 

Nursing toddlers are SMART

 

    * Extensive research on the relationship between cognitive achievement (IQ scores, grades in school) and breastfeeding has shown the greatest gains for those children breastfed the longest.

 

 

 

RnR, congrats on the 5K!

Well, apparently, lots of kids.  Just not here in America.  Actually there are quite a few here, but they usually restrict nursing to times when they're home because of the opinions of those who think it's "wrong."

 

Unicef and the World Health Organization recommend that mothers BF for 2 years.  Here is some more info for you. 

 

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that "Breastfeeding should be continued for at least the first year of life and beyond for as long as mutually desired by mother and child... Increased duration of breastfeeding confers significant health and developmental benefits for the child and the mother... There is no upper limit to the duration of breastfeeding and no evidence of psychologic or developmental harm from breastfeeding into the third year of life or longer." (AAP 2005)

 

    *  The American Academy of Family Physicians recommends that breastfeeding continue throughout the first year of life and that "Breastfeeding beyond the first year offers considerable benefits to both mother and child, and should continue as long as mutually desired." They also note that "If the child is younger than two years of age, the child is at increased risk of illness if weaned." (AAFP 2001)

 

    * A US Surgeon General has stated that it is a lucky baby who continues to nurse until age two. (Novello 1990)

 

    *  "Human milk expressed by mothers who have been lactating for >1 year has significantly increased fat and energy contents, compared with milk expressed by women who have been lactating for shorter periods. During prolonged lactation, the fat energy contribution of breast milk to the infant diet might be significant."

      -- Mandel 2005

 

    * "Breast milk continues to provide substantial amounts of key nutrients well beyond the first year of life, especially protein, fat, and most vitamins."

      -- Dewey 2001

 

    * In the second year (12-23 months), 448 mL of breastmilk provides:

          o 29% of energy requirements

          o 43% of protein requirements

          o 36% of calcium requirements

          o 75% of vitamin A requirements

          o 76% of folate requirements

          o 94% of vitamin B12 requirements

          o 60% of vitamin C requirements

      -- Dewey 2001

 

    * Studies done in rural Bangladesh have shown that breastmilk continues to be an important source of vitamin A in the second and third year of life.

      -- Persson 1998

 

Nursing toddlers are SICK LESS OFTEN

 

    * The American Academy of Family Physicians notes that children weaned before two years of age are at increased risk of illness (AAFP 2001).

 

    * Nursing toddlers between the ages of 16 and 30 months have been found to have fewer illnesses and illnesses of shorter duration than their non-nursing peers (Gulick 1986).

 

    * "Antibodies are abundant in human milk throughout lactation" (Nutrition During Lactation 1991; p. 134). In fact, some of the immune factors in breastmilk increase in concentration during the second year and also during the weaning process. (Goldman 1983, Goldman & Goldblum 1983, Institute of Medicine 1991).

 

    * Per the World Health Organization, "a modest increase in breastfeeding rates could prevent up to 10% of all deaths of children under five: Breastfeeding plays an essential and sometimes underestimated role in the treatment and prevention of childhood illness."

 

Nursing toddlers have FEWER ALLERGIES

 

    * Many studies have shown that one of the best ways to prevent allergies and asthma is to breastfeed exclusively for at least 6 months and continue breastfeeding long-term after that point.

 

      Breastfeeding can be helpful for preventing allergy by:

        1. reducing exposure to potential allergens (the later baby is exposed, the less likely that there will be an allergic reaction),

        2. speeding maturation of the protective intestinal barrier in baby's gut,

        3. coating the gut and providing a barrier to potentially allergenic molecules,

        4. providing anti-inflammatory properties that reduce the risk of infections (which can act as allergy triggers).

 

Nursing toddlers are SMART

 

    * Extensive research on the relationship between cognitive achievement (IQ scores, grades in school) and breastfeeding has shown the greatest gains for those children breastfed the longest.

 

 

 

 

I had no clue.  I just doesn't seem right that a kid that can walk, talk and has teeth should be breast feeding. 

"doesn't seem right" is something society says, or has said, about a lot of other things that aren't correct, are unfair, or are none of anyone else's business.  It's an uninformed viewpont.

"doesn't seem right" is something society says, or has said, about a lot of other things that aren't correct, are unfair, or are none of anyone else's business.  It's an uninformed viewpont.

 

Uninformed?  I'm not passing judgement on how long to breast feed or those who chose to breast feed.  As I clearly stated earlier, I didn't know that the information you provided earlier was the norm.

 

What I mean by "doesn't seem right" is I've watched children (some in my own family) who can walk, talk, hold a fork, potty trained, count, etc., go to their mother and ask for the nipple.

 

My opinion doesn't have anythign to do with what society thinks or deems as "incorrect".

Sweetie, that's what uninformed means - it means you didn't know something, you didn't have the information.  I didn't say stupid, I said uninformed.  And I would say that the info I provided is just that - info.  While a lot more women BF longer than the 1 year mark that most people think is when you're "supposed" to stop, I wouldn't say that BFing longer than that is "the norm" for our country.

 

I don't understand what's so "wrong" about a child asking to breastfeed, any more than they'd ask to be picked up and held, hugged, ask for food to eat when they're hungry, etc.  They want a moment of closeness, a moment of nourishment, etc.  This is just not considered abnormal in many other parts of the world, but it is in America.  This is why most women who BF past a year usually only do so at home/not in public, because of this kind of stigma. It would be nice if we could change it, but it probably won't happen.

Sweetie, that's what uninformed means - it means you didn't know something, you didn't have the information.  I didn't say stupid, I said uninformed.  And I would say that the info I provided is just that - info.  While a lot more women BF longer than the 1 year mark that most people think is when you're "supposed" to stop, I wouldn't say that BFing longer than that is "the norm" for our country.

 

I don't understand what's so "wrong" about a child asking to breastfeed, any more than they'd ask to be picked up and held, hugged, ask for food to eat when they're hungry, etc.  They want a moment of closeness, a moment of nourishment, etc.  This is just not considered abnormal in many other parts of the world, but it is in America.  This is why most women who BF past a year usually only do so at home/not in public, because of this kind of stigma. It would be nice if we could change it, but it probably won't happen.

 

Well we know a lot of stuff is taboo in america, yet in other places in the world it's the norm.

 

I dont think theres anything wrong with breast feeding.  But a three-four year old that can eat solids, walk, tie a shoe, etc.  Especially when she has multiple children.

 

I need to ask my grandmothers what they did.

Some babies walk at 7 months old.  Doesn't mean they should be weaned.  I just don't see that those milestones have anything to do with when you should or shouldn't wean.  I found this online just now as well, in a post by Dr William Sears:

 

Science is on your side. I have read many medical journals with articles proving the long-term health benefits of breastfeeding. The incidence of many illnesses, both childhood and adult, are lowered by breastfeeding  -- diabetes, heart disease, and central nervous system degenerative disorders (such as multiple sclerosis) to name a few. The most fascinating studies show that the longer and more frequently a mom nurses her baby, the smarter her child is likely to become. The brain grows more during the first two years of life than any other time, nearly tripling in size from birth to two years of age. It's clearly a crucial time for brain development, and the intellectual advantage breastfed babies enjoy is attributed to the "smart fats" unique to mom's breast milk (namely, omega-3 fatty acid, also known as DHA). From head to toe, babies who breastfeed for extended periods of time are healthier overall. They tend to have leaner bodies with less risk of obesity. They also have improved vision, since the eye is similar to the brain in regards to nervous tissue. They have better hearing due to a lower incidence of ear infections. Their dental health is generally good, since the natural sucking action of the breastfed infant helps incoming teeth align properly. Intestinal health is also much better than those of non-breastfed babies, as breast milk is easier to digest, reducing spit-up, reflux, and constipation. A toddler's immune system functions much better since breastmilk contains an immunoglobulin (IGA) which coats the lining of the intestines, which helps prevent germs from penetrating through. Even the skin of these babies is smoother and more supple.

 

World opinion is on your side. The World Health Organization (WHO) officially recommends mothers breastfeed until three years of age. (Yes, you did read that right!) Even the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends mothers should breastfeed "at least until one year of age and then as long as baby and mother mutually want to."

 

It's better for your health. Extended breastfeeding reduces the risk of uterine, ovarian, and breast cancers. Breastfeeding women also have a lower incidence of osteoporosis later in life.

 

It's better for your toddler's behavior. We have many extended breastfeeders in our pediatric practice, and I have noticed that breastfed toddlers are easier to discipline. Breastfeeding is also an exercise in baby reading, which enables a mother to more easily read her baby's cues and intervene before a discipline situation gets out of hand. Nursing is a wonderful calming tool on days when Mom needs to relax and to stave off an impending toddler tantrum.

 

 

Sweetie, that's what uninformed means - it means you didn't know something, you didn't have the information.   I didn't say stupid, I said uninformed. And I would say that the info I provided is just that - info. While a lot more women BF longer than the 1 year mark that most people think is when you're "supposed" to stop, I wouldn't say that BFing longer than that is "the norm" for our country.

 

I don't understand what's so "wrong" about a child asking to breastfeed, any more than they'd ask to be picked up and held, hugged, ask for food to eat when they're hungry, etc. They want a moment of closeness, a moment of nourishment, etc. This is just not considered abnormal in many other parts of the world, but it is in America. This is why most women who BF past a year usually only do so at home/not in public, because of this kind of stigma. It would be nice if we could change it, but it probably won't happen.

 

Regardless of the data, a 4 year old breast feeding is creepy and weird.  Most kids start kindergarten when they're 5...

You're entitled to your opinion, of course.  I do not intend to BF baby RNR til he's 4, that's not what I'm saying at all.  I just think the puritanical American culture and the problems we have with BFing in this country, no matter WHAT the age of the baby, are a real shame.

You're entitled to your opinion, of course.  I do not intend to BF baby RNR til he's 4, that's not what I'm saying at all.  I just think the puritanical American culture and the problems we have with BFing in this country, no matter WHAT the age of the baby, are a real shame.

 

Do you or, any of the other mothers here, think people - today - are that uncomfortable with breastfeeding?

 

To me breast feeding is natural.

I can tell you as a BFing Mom, PLENTY of people are uncomfortable about it, but the people as a group that are most uncomfortable are a) formula feeding mothers and b) grandmothers who are young enough that formula was available when they had their babies - they pressure their daughters into quitting because why do you have to do that, I didn't do it. 

 

FF mothers are extremely judgemental and nasty.  I went to a mom's group when I was on maternity leave and out of the 20 or so moms that were there, I was only 1 of 2 who worked, and was the ONLY one who was BFing.  They basically ignored me and made me feel like I was "weird" for doing it. My female supervisor has been extremely discouraging and has said things like "gross" about it, shaking her shoulders in a shudder like a lizard licked her face or something.  When she asked how long I intended to keep pumping at work and I told her, she shrieked, "WHY?" 

May 3, 2010, 12:06 pm

 

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/03/lynn-redgrave-67-is-dead/

 

Lynn Redgrave, 67, Is Dead

By DAVE ITZKOFF

Lynn Redgrave, the theater, film and television actress and scion of the Redgrave acting clan, has died. She was 67. The death was confirmed by her publicist, Rick Miramontez, who said that Ms. Redgrave died Sunday night at her home in Kent, Conn. A cause of death was not immediately given.

 

 

I went to a mom's group when I was on maternity leave and out of the 20 or so moms that were there, I was only 1 of 2 who worked, and was the ONLY one who was BFing. They basically ignored me and made me feel like I was "weird" for doing it. My female supervisor has been extremely discouraging and has said things like "gross" about it, shaking her shoulders in a shudder like a lizard licked her face or something. When she asked how long I intended to keep pumping at work and I told her, she shrieked, "WHY?"

 

Wow, that's amazing and really sad.  I can't believe they have an attitude like that about BFing, and I don't understand why people think it's gross.  It's completely natural.

 

Now, there are some good reasons why a mother would choose to formula feed their infants as well (mother has to take medication that could harm the baby, adopted infants, and others).  It would be nice if everyone could respect the decisions the mothers make. 

I went to a mom's group when I was on maternity leave and out of the 20 or so moms that were there, I was only 1 of 2 who worked, and was the ONLY one who was BFing.  They basically ignored me and made me feel like I was "weird" for doing it. My female supervisor has been extremely discouraging and has said things like "gross" about it, shaking her shoulders in a shudder like a lizard licked her face or something.  When she asked how long I intended to keep pumping at work and I told her, she shrieked, "WHY?" 

 

Wow, that's amazing and really sad.  I can't believe they have an attitude like that about BFing, and I don't understand why people think it's gross.  It's completely natural.

 

Now, there are some good reasons why a mother would choose to formula feed their infants as well (mother has to take medication that could harm the baby, adopted infants, and others).  It would be nice if everyone could respect the decisions the mothers make. 

 

Thats really sad.  I just asked my Mom about this.  She said she stopped breast feeding because it was painful and my brother and I were BF at the same time so she was exhausted.  She had to go back to work.

 

As a man, I understand that BF can be the only way some kids can survive, as some kids are lactose intolerance or have other related allergies.  Someone who looks down on BF is most likely subconscious of their own body.

 

Come on people its the year 2010!  It's not like BF mothers are walking around with their tetas exposed.

 

Your boss sounds like a moron.  Does your job provide "privacy" rooms for you to pump?

One thing my job does that I think is pretty good is provide a locked place for you to pump.  They automatically do this for working mom lawyers, but that they extend it to the staff is fairly unusual still, and very good.  I requested and received a lock on my office door which was installed while I was on leave.  If you work in a cube, they will provide you with an empty office with a lock on the door so you can pump.

One thing my job does that I think is pretty good is provide a locked place for you to pump.  They automatically do this for working mom lawyers, but that they extend it to the staff is fairly unusual still, and very good.  I requested and received a lock on my office door which was installed while I was on leave.  If you work in a cube, they will provide you with an empty office with a lock on the door so you can pump.

 

Thats good.  We have "privacy" rooms for those in cubes. There is a sofa, fridge (just for milk storage), tellie, even a PC if one choses to work while in there.