I'm seeing a parallel here between this thread and the panhandlers thread - if someone is trying to bother you for whatever reason, just tell them no and move on.

 

I actually met a girl walking down a street in NYC once, and we dated for several months.

There's an unfortunate logic to it- Catcalling and harassing isn't likely to get these guys anywhere, but it's more effective than respecting women's boundaries, which is 100% ineffective.  And there's little cost in making a failed attempt, assuming you're the kind of guy that doesn't mind being a creep.  And some of these guys clearly get off just on the harassing itself.

 

All of which is bad math for women and nice guys alike. 

 

 

if only thats all there was to it, but often its much lower than that. some of the men who do this do it with anything that has any t&a, including 12yr olds. i'm about to murder this coffee cart guy on my corner for that, he seems to think he's still in santo domingo. hard to believe it can be worse elsewhere, but it is.

 

 

Ever noticed how total loser guys constantly wind up with women they don't deserve? It's because they are extremely outgoing while everyone else isn't. Don't expect these outgoing guys to curb their behavior so that they spend as much time alone as nice guys do. Or even more really, since if those guys aren't in women's faces all the time they won't get any attention from them due to being losers visibly.

 

I've often "ended up" with women I "didn't deserve", at least on the surface. 

 

Before I started working at the bar I was ridiculously good at meeting women, terrible at what could be called “closing the deal”.  The key is to get their attention without looking like you are trying to get their attention.  Once that’s accomplished, you have to become a little indifferent, and pay attention to other women.  Be too nice at this point and you are in the “friend zone”.

 

Once I started working the door this behavior became pretty much automatic, with predictable results.  When I met my daughter's mom, she was someone I (on the surface) had no business speaking to, let alone being seen with constantly.  And oh yeah, once with her that gave me the right to that indifference with others.  "Them that has, gets" very much applies to the dating game, if one includes opportunities.  This is why a lot of cheating happens.  It's not assertive a-holery, but a lack of willpower.

 

Also, in reference to R&Rs point (which I really should not have to second), any decent bar has keeping unaccompanied women comfortable as a part of their business plan and I can completely verify they become uncomfortable well before they are willing to show it.  This is why they often sit in groups I call "SAM sites", with enveloping fields of fire shooting down the incoming...

I'm seeing a parallel here between this thread and the panhandlers thread - if someone is trying to bother you for whatever reason, just tell them no and move on.

 

I actually met a girl walking down a street in NYC once, and we dated for several months.

 

some one needs to take a 12 hour walk and get all the panhandlers asking for money and then edit it down to a 3 minute video, it would be very educational.

Did anyone see the Butler County Sheriff on The Daily Show last night?  He obviously came off looking ridiculous (as everyone they interview does)? 

Daily Show interviews are a good example of the use of the type of filming/editing tactics I mentioned above. It skews the view of the audience more than a bit but doesn't make the point any less valid

Lest it be said I don't have a sense of humor, this is a super, super hilarious response to the video.

 

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/ebf5e34fc8/10-hours-of-walking-in-nyc-as-a-man

 

Now there you go - we agree! I think the gym is a huge gray area as well, and have found equal numbers of women on both sides of the equation.

 

Per your example, how do you know if a woman is "on her way to work" though? I wear exactly, and I mean exactly the outfit this lady in the video wears to work at least once a week. I wear leggings like 3 days a week and fitted t-shirts, and jeans and things. I am on my way to work. My workplace is casual dress.

 

Meeting dating a girl from the gym is similar to the workplace. If it does not end well you still have to see them 3-5 times a week. I dated a girl I

met at a gym and she was a total control freak. Luckily when I met her she was in the process of buying a condo that was far enough away from the gym that she would have to find another gym. Then I dumped her, and 15 minutes later she showed up at my house.

 

Its come full circle now,

 

10 Hours of Walking in LA as a Drag Queen

 

 

Its come full circle now,

 

10 Hours of Walking in LA as a Drag Queen

 

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Those girls from UrbanOhio Greece really get around.  SMDH!

 

 

So did everyone enjoy their Halloween?

 

So did everyone enjoy their Halloween?

 

If aliens had wanted to scout us out, they could have dressed as Elsa and fit right in.

Can someone tell me why we still have to listen to this foo-foo string quartet 10+ years after Verizon told use to "enjoy this ringback tone while your party is reached"?

 

So tonight I'm driving when Bittersweet Symphony by The Verve came on the satellite radio channel I was listening to.  I pick up the phone to call someone, and sure enough that damn Verizon foo-foo music came on at the same time.  So my cranium was getting hit by a feral hirsutism of prancing violins:

If it makes you feel better, the Verve doesn't get a dime from that song. All the money goes to the Stones.

If it makes you feel better, the Verve doesn't get a dime from that song. All the money goes to the Stones.

 

Actually, it goes to a scumbag lawyer who represented the Stones.  That's why I made a point of making my own ringtone.

 

One of the top five songs of the nineties and it had to be parasited....

Well, this is a can of worms from a legal application standpoint, but this writer for the NYT (following the Jezebel video) is proposing a law which would create a cause of action out of street harassment.  http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/10/31/do-we-need-a-law-against-catcalling/street-harassment-law-would-restrict-intimidating-behavior

 

I also read something on this from the Daily Caller, which has a heavy conservative lean (to the point of dang near tipping over on its side).  What was amusing about that 'coverage' was the uncertainty and palpable uneasiness it had with offering an opinion.  After all, it either has to take the side of what it would call femi-nazis or pass on the chance to berate the behaviors of (mostly) minority men.  It also is conscious of the slippery slope agreeing with the NYT piece would create and the general distaste it has for hate speech laws, which any 'cat-calling' law would be most comparable to.  Quite the pickle it finds itself in on this one.

Did anyone see the Butler County Sheriff on The Daily Show last night?  He obviously came off looking ridiculous (as everyone they interview does)? 

 

Except he's on Bill Cunningham's radio show all the time and he's totally batshit crazy on there.  He rails about Mexicans whatever the boogieman of the moment is non-stop.

Well, this is a can of worms from a legal application standpoint, but this writer for the NYT (following the Jezebel video) is proposing a law which would create a cause of action out of street harassment.  http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/10/31/do-we-need-a-law-against-catcalling/street-harassment-law-would-restrict-intimidating-behavior

 

Just to clarify, that's not a "writer for the NYT" in any meaningful sense.  It's a debate series in which the NYT invites four unaffiliated experts to offer clashing opinions about an issue.  The more divergent the opinions, the better for their format.  That particular blurb was from a Northwestern sociology prof.  The Times also included a strong "anti" opinion in that same panel: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/10/31/do-we-need-a-law-against-catcalling/legislating-catcalling-comes-with-real-risks

 

Not a big deal, but just wanted to make that clear lest anyone mistakenly think this is an opinion the NYT was pushing from its own writers or editorial staff.

 

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Ok just to play devils advocate, If you are a single man in an urban environment and you see an attractive Woman you want to talk to, whats the best way to do it?

 

 

If the "urban environment" is the street and the woman is walking down it and not looking at people, or shopping at a newsstand or something, just leave her the heck alone! She doesn't want to talk to you. She's not hanging out at a bar looking around for company. I don't care if she's the most beautiful person you have ever seen in your whole life. Leave her alone.

 

What's acceptable walking down the street? A polite nod. Which is the modern way of tipping your hat. Really, that's about it. don't stare, don't tell her to smile, don't tell her how pretty she looks.

 

If a woman is at a bar alone and is not reading, engrossed in her phone, clearly waiting for someone or otherwise obviously completely closed to any interaction, but is looking around, seems open to approach, then you have the server/bartender send her a second of whatever she is drinking, whether it's beer or pop or whatever. How she reacts to it is your answer as to whether or not you can do anything else. And if you can't, don't stare, get pissed, or whatever else.

 

Oh come on rule #1 at bars is never buy women drinks.  Instead go over and try to sell her your drink. 

Ok just to play devils advocate, If you are a single man in an urban environment and you see an attractive Woman you want to talk to, whats the best way to do it?

 

 

If the "urban environment" is the street and the woman is walking down it and not looking at people, or shopping at a newsstand or something, just leave her the heck alone! She doesn't want to talk to you. She's not hanging out at a bar looking around for company. I don't care if she's the most beautiful person you have ever seen in your whole life. Leave her alone.

 

What's acceptable walking down the street? A polite nod. Which is the modern way of tipping your hat. Really, that's about it. don't stare, don't tell her to smile, don't tell her how pretty she looks.

 

If a woman is at a bar alone and is not reading, engrossed in her phone, clearly waiting for someone or otherwise obviously completely closed to any interaction, but is looking around, seems open to approach, then you have the server/bartender send her a second of whatever she is drinking, whether it's beer or pop or whatever. How she reacts to it is your answer as to whether or not you can do anything else. And if you can't, don't stare, get pissed, or whatever else.

 

Oh come on rule #1 at bars is never buy women drinks.  Instead go over and try to sell her your drink. 

Since when is this a rule?

If it makes you feel better, the Verve doesn't get a dime from that song. All the money goes to the Stones.

 

No actually it goes to a former Rolling Stones manager, I believe, who swindled the band out of their publishing sometime in the mid-1960s.  Here is the version of the Rolling Stones song that is sampled by The Verve:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVuh1Ymve2I

 

Quite a brilliant adaptation of the original Stones song, if you are familiar with it.  And of course this orchestral interpretation is itself overtly influenced by the contemporaneous Pet Sounds-era Beach Boys.  I mean compare that intro to this intro and the overall orchestration and attitude, it's the same thing:

 

 

 

 

 

Ok just to play devils advocate, If you are a single man in an urban environment and you see an attractive Woman you want to talk to, whats the best way to do it?

 

 

If the "urban environment" is the street and the woman is walking down it and not looking at people, or shopping at a newsstand or something, just leave her the heck alone! She doesn't want to talk to you. She's not hanging out at a bar looking around for company. I don't care if she's the most beautiful person you have ever seen in your whole life. Leave her alone.

 

What's acceptable walking down the street? A polite nod. Which is the modern way of tipping your hat. Really, that's about it. don't stare, don't tell her to smile, don't tell her how pretty she looks.

 

If a woman is at a bar alone and is not reading, engrossed in her phone, clearly waiting for someone or otherwise obviously completely closed to any interaction, but is looking around, seems open to approach, then you have the server/bartender send her a second of whatever she is drinking, whether it's beer or pop or whatever. How she reacts to it is your answer as to whether or not you can do anything else. And if you can't, don't stare, get pissed, or whatever else.

 

Oh come on rule #1 at bars is never buy women drinks.  Instead go over and try to sell her your drink. 

Since when is this a rule?

 

Deep in the night, there are no rules. 

Ok just to play devils advocate, If you are a single man in an urban environment and you see an attractive Woman you want to talk to, whats the best way to do it?

 

 

If the "urban environment" is the street and the woman is walking down it and not looking at people, or shopping at a newsstand or something, just leave her the heck alone! She doesn't want to talk to you. She's not hanging out at a bar looking around for company. I don't care if she's the most beautiful person you have ever seen in your whole life. Leave her alone.

 

What's acceptable walking down the street? A polite nod. Which is the modern way of tipping your hat. Really, that's about it. don't stare, don't tell her to smile, don't tell her how pretty she looks.

 

If a woman is at a bar alone and is not reading, engrossed in her phone, clearly waiting for someone or otherwise obviously completely closed to any interaction, but is looking around, seems open to approach, then you have the server/bartender send her a second of whatever she is drinking, whether it's beer or pop or whatever. How she reacts to it is your answer as to whether or not you can do anything else. And if you can't, don't stare, get pissed, or whatever else.

 

Oh come on rule #1 at bars is never buy women drinks.  Instead go over and try to sell her your drink. 

Since when is this a rule?

 

Deep in the night, there are no rules. 

 

http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/night-owls-creative-intelligent/686025/

Chain stores that will be CLOSED on Thanksgiving:

 

 

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicaprobus/these-chain-stores-are-actually-giving-their-employees-thank

 

1. American Girl Place

2. Barnes & Noble

3. Bed, Bath and Beyond

4. B.J.'s

5. Burlington Coat Factory

6. Costco

7. Crate & Barrel

8. Dillard's

9. DSW

10. GameStop

11. Hobby Lobby

12. Home Depot

13. HomeGoods

14. Jo-Ann Fabrics and Crafts

15. Lowe's

16. Marshalls

17. Nordstrom

18. Patagonia

19. Petco

20. Pier 1 Imports

21. Publix

22. Radio Shack

23. REI

24. Sam's Club

25. Sierra Trading Post

26. Sur La Table

27. Talbot's

28. T.J. Maxx

Ok just to play devils advocate, If you are a single man in an urban environment and you see an attractive Woman you want to talk to, whats the best way to do it?

 

 

If the "urban environment" is the street and the woman is walking down it and not looking at people, or shopping at a newsstand or something, just leave her the heck alone! She doesn't want to talk to you. She's not hanging out at a bar looking around for company. I don't care if she's the most beautiful person you have ever seen in your whole life. Leave her alone.

 

What's acceptable walking down the street? A polite nod. Which is the modern way of tipping your hat. Really, that's about it. don't stare, don't tell her to smile, don't tell her how pretty she looks.

 

If a woman is at a bar alone and is not reading, engrossed in her phone, clearly waiting for someone or otherwise obviously completely closed to any interaction, but is looking around, seems open to approach, then you have the server/bartender send her a second of whatever she is drinking, whether it's beer or pop or whatever. How she reacts to it is your answer as to whether or not you can do anything else. And if you can't, don't stare, get pissed, or whatever else.

 

Oh come on rule #1 at bars is never buy women drinks.  Instead go over and try to sell her your drink. 

Since when is this a rule?

 

Deep in the night, there are no rules. 

 

Just one: don't tick off the staff.  We'll close early.  :)

Chain stores that will be CLOSED on Thanksgiving:

 

 

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicaprobus/these-chain-stores-are-actually-giving-their-employees-thank

 

1. American Girl Place

2. Barnes & Noble

3. Bed, Bath and Beyond

4. B.J.'s

5. Burlington Coat Factory

6. Costco

7. Crate & Barrel

8. Dillard's

9. DSW

10. GameStop

11. Hobby Lobby

12. Home Depot

13. HomeGoods

14. Jo-Ann Fabrics and Crafts

15. Lowe's

16. Marshalls

17. Nordstrom

18. Patagonia

19. Petco

20. Pier 1 Imports

21. Publix

22. Radio Shack

23. REI

24. Sam's Club

25. Sierra Trading Post

26. Sur La Table

27. Talbot's

28. T.J. Maxx

 

 

^ a friend of our family who is a local cle area politician has an interesting strategy regarding stores that open thanksgiving -- and it got national attention a couple years ago. he is very passionate about the topic!:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/19/mike-foley-thanksgiving_n_4298040.html

I don't plan to shop on Thanksgiving and never have, but I really don't understand the national outrage. I have never heard anyone being outraged that gas stations are open, or that Convenient Food Mart or 7-11 is open, or that the hospitals are open, or fire stations, police stations. Or about the truck drivers that have to work. Or people who work in assisted living facilities. Life does not shut down just because it's a holiday. And aren't movie theaters open? The holiday is not about FAMILY. It's about being thankful for what you have.

 

There are many people now in retail who may not have a "family" with whom they can spend time on a day like Thanksgiving. Their spouse is dead or gone and their children, if they had any, are living several states away. I worked with a lot of them. They prefer to stay busy instead of sitting at home watching TV all day and make a little money while they do it.

 

As someone who doesn't have anyone to spend the actual Thanksgiving day with for the first time in my life, if I had a job, I would probably be glad to go work instead of sitting at home feeling lonely. I'm going to be running a race that morning at least, and I will find other things to keep myself busy like writing or renting a movie or something, but all this going on about how people should stay home with their families that day, well, scores of people have not done this for decades, and other groups would prefer not to. I think the market is just responding to changing customer demand and I don't think the businesses should be vilified for responding to that demand.

^ People just pretend to be outraged that retail workers have to work on Thanksgiving. What they’re really outraged about is that they, as shoppers, have to get to the Black Friday deals on Thanksgiving.

I think some people are really outraged, as they have apparently never had family members who had to work on the holiday and continually have to plan the meal around those folks. You're actually not struck down by the God of America if you have turkey day on a friday or saturday or even sunday, or even the week before or after. It's not like some sacred holiday where "everyone" is off work. That's why I don't get the sudden outrage. Workers jobs have changed a lot. Stuff is open that didn't used to be. We have more 24 hour stores than we ever have. You can even buy liquor on a sunday now, if you go to the liquor store in giant eagle and with a credit card to boot. Things change, times change, and consumers have obviously shown if a store is open, they will go to it. Everyone isn't planning a martha stewart dinner with their giant, loving family on that day.

I certainly don't get up in arms about the topic, but it's not apples-to-apples when comparing retail workers to professions in which it is known going in that your 'shop' is going to be open 24/7/365.  Police officers and firefighters know when they are hired that they are going to work holidays, but they also know that they are going to get 'holiday pay' for those days they work, such as thanksgiving or xmas.  That pay can be as much as 2x the regular rate.  Do Best Buy workers get any bump in pay on the holidays?  If they did, I imagine Best Buy would have no problem finding willing workers.

Ok, removing emergency service workers, what about the gas station people and people at Convenient Food Mart and 7-11? Or do they not count as they knew when they started it's a 365 business. It's still retail, and not "essential for life" like PD or FD. So where is the distinction? One type of retail, it's an abomination, but others are not?

I think some people are really outraged, as they have apparently never had family members who had to work on the holiday and continually have to plan the meal around those folks. You're actually not struck down by the God of America if you have turkey day on a friday or saturday or even sunday, or even the week before or after. It's not like some sacred holiday where "everyone" is off work. That's why I don't get the sudden outrage. Workers jobs have changed a lot. Stuff is open that didn't used to be. We have more 24 hour stores than we ever have. You can even buy liquor on a sunday now, if you go to the liquor store in giant eagle and with a credit card to boot. Things change, times change, and consumers have obviously shown if a store is open, they will go to it. Everyone isn't planning a martha stewart dinner with their giant, loving family on that day.

Ever since my mom passed away, which was 30 years ago, my Dad, brother, and I have typically scattered on the actual holidays and had our version on an alternate day....

Ok, removing emergency service workers, what about the gas station people and people at Convenient Food Mart and 7-11? Or do they not count as they knew when they started it's a 365 business. It's still retail, and not "essential for life" like PD or FD. So where is the distinction? One type of retail, it's an abomination, but others are not?

 

First of all, I am not one who calls it an abomination or whatever.  But, in your example of gas station workers, it would depend.  At least some gas stations are closed on holidays.  Others are owned by the person behind the counter.  Others are indeed 24/7/365 businesses which are likely very upfront with their employees about holiday hours and/or provide the type of extra compensation I mentioned above.  You really can't look at anything in a vacuum.  I have off for memorial day as does most everyone else, but Home Depot employees don't.  That's probably one of the biggest days of the year for HD, as everyone is starting their spring clean-up and yardwork.  Same goes for gas stations along the highways with all of the travelers depending on them being open.  I don't know what the exact outrage is with retail and Thanksgiving, but I can certainly understand the argument that retailers lose out on a lot of money when they close on the Thanksgiving...... but that would be even more reason to give the workers the type of extra pay where they would gladly skip to work, no?

well yeah, hospitals and other things are open, but you could say that about any holiday. i'm always amazed at what is open 4th of july or new years day or christmas day. there are even degrees of holidays, like for example, columbus day, which is just a bank holiday many places. i do think mike foley made a rather clever play at trying to make thanksgiving both more reflective and more family oriented in trying to get workers better pay for having to work on that day, which of course would further limit who opens for business on thanksgiving. otoh i certainly agree that the shopping madhouse is what most people want more and more, and they have less and less free time, so i don't really have an opinion on businesses choosing to be open on thanksgiving or other holidays either way. all i know is thanksgiving is my favorite because its really the only all american holiday and i love the meal and general be thankful spirit of it.

I didn't mean you were saying it was an abomination. But the frothing hatred and boycotts and such on the internet towards the retail places that will be open that day is enormous.

 

Certainly I generally agree Americans do not take/get enough time off work all year. It would be nice if everyone in every job got some kind of guaranteed time off each year, whether the bulk of the people take it on the same day or not.

It's just a lot of noise IMO.  If the frothing hatred was that strong, the retailers would not be open.  They play to market forces, and market forces are telling them to be open.  If people want them closed, don't scream about it on the internet....... the more powerful statement is to stay home, even if it means you miss out on the Black Friday deal.

Frankly, I think it's so the stores can avoid the liability of masses of people trampling each other to death when they swing open the doors at 5AM on Friday. Even if it is the kind of people that are willing to risk their lives over mediocre deals on junk that didn't sell during the rest of the year.

Another benefit is that those employees are probably not intoxicated or hung over. The only enjoyable thing about first shift Black Friday was watching my coworkers drag themselves into the store, and witnessing the giddiness of intoxication and the doomsday clock looming over everything.

These holidays create an interesting situation for Uber and Lyft.  People still need rides on those days, but far fewer people are willing to drive, meaning surge pricing all day, meaning people who drive for Uber and Lyft will be pissed having to eat grandma's yams and watching some dumb holiday movie when they could be out there making $500 in 7 or 8 hours. 

These holidays create an interesting situation for Uber and Lyft.  People still need rides on those days, but far fewer people are willing to drive, meaning surge pricing all day, meaning people who drive for Uber and Lyft will be pissed having to eat grandma's yams and watching some dumb holiday movie when they could be out there making $500 in 7 or 8 hours. 

 

 

have you seen this? you could kick it up a notch by making money sharing your bike whilst ubering and lyfting:

 

https://www.spinlister.com

These holidays create an interesting situation for Uber and Lyft.  People still need rides on those days, but far fewer people are willing to drive, meaning surge pricing all day, meaning people who drive for Uber and Lyft will be pissed having to eat grandma's yams and watching some dumb holiday movie when they could be out there making $500 in 7 or 8 hours. 

 

 

have you seen this? you could kick it up a notch by making money sharing your bike whilst ubering and lyfting:

 

https://www.spinlister.com

 

That's hilarious.  I'll list mine and see what happens.  I live in a convenient location unlike those other chumps. 

 

Okay I'm listed:

https://www.spinlister.com/rides/10551-bike-hybrid-cincinnati-oh

 

I fudged my address so that nobody breaks in and steals the thing.  That's more of a risk if you own a high-end road or mountain bike, which this isn't. 

^It doesn't list your address publicly. I don't see there being a high demand for this service, though. It will be interesting to see if y'all get any hits.

MyTwoSense, clean out your darn inbox.  I tried to harass you via PM and got an ugly red message back.  :whip:

MyTwoSense, clean out your darn inbox.  I tried to harass you via PM and got an ugly red message back.  :whip:

 

My inbox is force field is working as planned!  HA!

Things are not always as they seem.....

 

http://news.yahoo.com/drunk-girl-hollywood-video-fake-221748403.html

Don't we have a thread for discussion related to personal investment property issues for people on this board? I'm looking to rent out my house and I had a few questions but can't find the thread.

Probably this one

 

www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,29168.msg711367.html

Probably this one

 

www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,29168.msg711367.html

 

That's it, thanks!  For some reason I didn't look under business and economy.

If it makes you feel better, the Verve doesn't get a dime from that song. All the money goes to the Stones.

 

No actually it goes to a former Rolling Stones manager, I believe, who swindled the band out of their publishing sometime in the mid-1960s.  Here is the version of the Rolling Stones song that is sampled by The Verve:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVuh1Ymve2I

 

Quite a brilliant adaptation of the original Stones song, if you are familiar with it.  And of course this orchestral interpretation is itself overtly influenced by the contemporaneous Pet Sounds-era Beach Boys.  I mean compare that intro to this intro and the overall orchestration and attitude, it's the same thing:

 

 

 

yep and just to stay on this tangent for a minute, the beatles outright ripped pet sounds off for their sgt pepper album too.

the mop topped lad who is poul was a huge fan of that record and still is, still raves about it every chance he gets.

 

but the brits are always ripping us off  :laugh:

 

 

 

 

 

^ at least alison & co. put a little ode to the woofa goofa original in their video with the suitcases thing -- sooo alrighty then!

 

 

I walked two blocks to a restaurant for lunch. I am wearing my big, puffy, black down coat that's rated to -20 wind chill, it goes down to the bottom of my calves. I have jeans on and plain black winter boots. I had a thick scarf around my neck and a big, black ear-flaps hat with a black brim that comes down almost over my eyes. And my hood over the hat. And literally, a car honked at me like half a dozen times. I didn't turn around and kept walking, and they pulled up next to me and rolled the window down so the guy could say, "hey baby, what's shaking, how you doing?"

 

I mean, REALLY? I really do not get this.