February 3, 200916 yr "Phelps has added his name to a long list of rich, arrogant, dimwitted celebrity jocks who just can't live up to their hype" What in the hell does that mean? How is he arrogant? Because he hit a bong? Big freaking deal. Will it cost him endorsements? Yes. Are the amount of endorsements one gets the measure of how good a person is? No. If I remember correctly, I think our beloved President admitted to doing cocaine. Should we all now judge him so harshly. What a crock.
February 3, 200916 yr Some of the streets in the Buckeye-Shaker area or in Glenville could match that Dorchester pic in their heyday. I'm talking about the streets where the doubles are more likely to be triples, and the porches all have greco-roman columns. Totally agree with your main point though. As I read through that 2004 rowhouse thread, it struck me how much general disgust was being expressed about the quality of Cleveland's recent construction. I feel like this stuff is so abominable it shouldn't be going up, but it seems like the UO consensus is much more comfortable with the trend than it was 5 years ago. "Vinyl is cost-effective, futuristic design is a value in itself, you don't know what it's like to be a developer, etc." Bullcrap. The stuff going up in Columbus for the past ten years makes our new construction look like cardboard. And we're being told this is the way, we have no choice. Bullcrap. It is possible not 200 miles from here to build with brick, stone, and classical styling-- Cleveland has got to get on the ball. A lot of the new stuff in Columbus is downtown. The city provides a lot of incentives for building downtown (I'm guessing that's part of the reason why downtown development turns out so nice) and there's no way in hell they would allow vinyl siding to stand next to a skyscraper...obviously. I haven't paid much attention to the Gay St. condos but I wouldn't doubt that the brick is precast. Part of the reason why they use the materials they do is to speed up the construction process and reduce on site congestion. What development are you p!ssed about? I'd like to see a picture.
February 3, 200916 yr "Phelps has added his name to a long list of rich, arrogant, dimwitted celebrity jocks who just can't live up to their hype" What in the hell does that mean? How is he arrogant? Because he hit a bong? Big freaking deal. Will it cost him endorsements? Yes. Are the amount of endorsements one gets the measure of how good a person is? No. If I remember correctly, I think our beloved President admitted to doing cocaine. Should we all now judge him so harshly. What a crock. I bet they'll take his @ss off the Kellog's Corn Flakes box.
February 3, 200916 yr "Phelps has added his name to a long list of rich, arrogant, dimwitted celebrity jocks who just can't live up to their hype" What in the hell does that mean? How is he arrogant? Because he hit a bong? Big freaking deal. Will it cost him endorsements? Yes. Are the amount of endorsements one gets the measure of how good a person is? No. If I remember correctly, I think our beloved President admitted to doing cocaine. Should we all now judge him so harshly. What a crock. I bet they'll take his @ss off the Kellog's Corn Flakes box. They should! If he was a minority. He would have been "five minutes ago" after his first offense.
February 3, 200916 yr Honestly, I think the media holds white athletes to a higher moral standard then get surprised when they do drugs or something. Just look at Brett Favre. If pictures surfaced of Tom Brady smoking a bong, all hell would break loose.
February 3, 200916 yr This would freak me out. http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/02/skydiving.death/index.html?iref=newssearch#cnnSTCVideo
February 3, 200916 yr "Phelps has added his name to a long list of rich, arrogant, dimwitted celebrity jocks who just can't live up to their hype" What in the hell does that mean? How is he arrogant? Because he hit a bong? Big freaking deal. Will it cost him endorsements? Yes. Are the amount of endorsements one gets the measure of how good a person is? No. If I remember correctly, I think our beloved President admitted to doing cocaine. Should we all now judge him so harshly. What a crock. I bet they'll take his @ss off the Kellog's Corn Flakes box. They should! If he was a minority. He would have been "five minutes ago" after his first offense. Here we go.... Why don't you cite examples. Let me guess, Michael Vick is a victim. Point is, it makes no difference what color you are. Guys with clean records, black, white, brown, or yellow, are favored for endorsements. Like I said, Obama admitted to doing coke. Did you crucify him when it happened? Hell, if you don't think guys who hit a bong should be on endorsements, I would be surprised if you think admitted coke doers should be president.
February 3, 200916 yr Honestly, I think the media holds white athletes to a higher moral standard then get surprised when they do drugs or something. Just look at Brett Favre. If pictures surfaced of Tom Brady smoking a bong, all hell would break loose. Well if you look at statistics, it generally is more surprising when a white athlete does something illegal. How often do you hear stories of so and so's uncle getting killed, growing up with no father, mom worked 2-3 jobs, etc? If you say you do not stereotype that previous story as the black athlete's story, I would say you're kidding yourself. Lebron Chris Paul's all-star game dedication Santonio Holmes Also, when Matt Leinhart and Tom Brady fathered kids out of wedlock, it was surprising, yet no less despicable. Am I stereotyping? Yes. Am I saying that these backgrounds can't happen with white people? No.
February 3, 200916 yr "Phelps has added his name to a long list of rich, arrogant, dimwitted celebrity jocks who just can't live up to their hype" What in the hell does that mean? How is he arrogant? Because he hit a bong? Big freaking deal. Will it cost him endorsements? Yes. Are the amount of endorsements one gets the measure of how good a person is? No. If I remember correctly, I think our beloved President admitted to doing cocaine. Should we all now judge him so harshly. What a crock. I bet they'll take his @ss off the Kellog's Corn Flakes box. They should! If he was a minority. He would have been "five minutes ago" after his first offense. Here we go.... Why don't you cite examples. Let me guess, Michael Vick is a victim. Point is, it makes no difference what color you are. Guys with clean records, black, white, brown, or yellow, are favored for endorsements. Like I said, Obama admitted to doing coke. Did you crucify him when it happened? Hell, if you don't think guys who hit a bong should be on endorsements, I would be surprised if you think admitted coke doers should be president. [*]Micheal vick was not an olympian. [*]Michael Vick is an idiot and should have been prosecuted [*]MTS don't play that. MV was wrong It makes no difference to YOU, but from a professional point of view, color matters in advertising. Outside of Oprah, you can be picture perfect person of color, but once you make a mistake, and you're just another black man after. That might not be what many of you say or think, but that is what happens, since main stream general america thinks black are a "risk". In June when research comes out and the ethnic and minority agency start new work, we'll see if Obama being elected will change anything.
February 3, 200916 yr "Phelps has added his name to a long list of rich, arrogant, dimwitted celebrity jocks who just can't live up to their hype" What in the hell does that mean? How is he arrogant? Because he hit a bong? Big freaking deal. Will it cost him endorsements? Yes. Are the amount of endorsements one gets the measure of how good a person is? No. If I remember correctly, I think our beloved President admitted to doing cocaine. Should we all now judge him so harshly. What a crock. I bet they'll take his @ss off the Kellog's Corn Flakes box. They should! If he was a minority. He would have been "five minutes ago" after his first offense. Here we go.... Why don't you cite examples. Let me guess, Michael Vick is a victim. Point is, it makes no difference what color you are. Guys with clean records, black, white, brown, or yellow, are favored for endorsements. Like I said, Obama admitted to doing coke. Did you crucify him when it happened? Hell, if you don't think guys who hit a bong should be on endorsements, I would be surprised if you think admitted coke doers should be president. The problem is kids look up to athletes as role models. It's easier for a politicians dirty laundry to be aired out. Absolutely everything from your past surfaces and obviously current stuff matters more. Someone like Tom Brady wouldn't be in trouble for dog fighting because he's white. Dog fighting is a cultural thing, especially in the south. Lets face it - white people (including judges and juries) love dogs and pretty much put them on par with little children. I saw a program on the Discovery Channel or some channel like that, where they focused on Michael Vick's dogs being rehabilitated in Dogtown for an hour. ZzzZzzZzz What a boring @ss show.
February 3, 200916 yr What development are you p!ssed about? I'd like to see a picture. No time to gather up pix, and I'm not sure if you mean good developments in Cbus or bad ones here. In Cbus: The Gay St project for sure... even if the brick is precast, precast brick is 1000x better than precast unnatrually colored smooth plastic surface. Also, everything that's been built along N. High, through the Short North and including the new S campus gateway builldings. I drove up that stretch recently and the appearance of the newer buildings really blew me away. I didn't get a great look at it, but the arena district looked pretty decent too. Even some of the newer stuff along Lane and through Upper Arlington looks nice, despite the fact that it has too much setback and parking. If our new Cedar Center turns out half as nice, I'll be happy. But no, I see corrugated aluminum and sheets of plastic in our future. Which brings me to Cleveland: Many recent debacles are chronicled in that rowhouse thread from the previous page. Beacon Place, which fronts Euclid Avenue with some kind of an access road. Plus, it looks stylistically worse than the similar low income stuff they built along Woodland. That also shouldn't be there. All those cheap new single family homes with big yards in Central, within view of Terminal Tower? Ridiculous, huge mistake. The newer houses near W40 S of Lorain Ave... ugly siding, ugly plastic sheeting that wasn't even attached well, boring design "spruced up" with random upturned corners. Nice inside but awful curb appeal. Montana Townhomes, cheap and fortresslike. The insanely out of place McMansions along Chester. The new CSU dorms. Good gravy that's a lotta vinyl for downtown. The Chicle Townhomes. I'd look for something more attractive to store mining equipment in, so I find it absurd to view this as a viable residential style. Most of the townhouse units proposed around town kinda suck, unfortunately. They're variably decent, but the aversion to natural looking materials is just killing me. I think the designs of Battery Park and the Avenue District townhouses are better because they have at least SOME brick, but why they didn't go all the way is a mystery to me, and the "brick" in BP looks kinda like cinderblocks. As others have noted, the porches on these aren't so hot either.
February 3, 200916 yr "Outside of Oprah, you can be picture perfect person of color, you make a mistake." I agree. Blacks have a much more difficult time overcoming perceptions. However, I think it depends on what the mistake is. If you are convicted of a crime, then you reap what you sow.
February 3, 200916 yr I try to pay attention to what goes on in Cleveland. I really like Battery Park. Maybe the developers need more confidence. :? If Battery Park is successful they'll probably do more stuff like it. The economy sucks right now though.
February 3, 200916 yr "Phelps has added his name to a long list of rich, arrogant, dimwitted celebrity jocks who just can't live up to their hype" What in the hell does that mean? How is he arrogant? Because he hit a bong? Big freaking deal. Will it cost him endorsements? Yes. Are the amount of endorsements one gets the measure of how good a person is? No. If I remember correctly, I think our beloved President admitted to doing cocaine. Should we all now judge him so harshly. What a crock. I bet they'll take his @ss off the Kellog's Corn Flakes box. They should! If he was a minority. He would have been "five minutes ago" after his first offense. Here we go.... Why don't you cite examples. Let me guess, Michael Vick is a victim. Point is, it makes no difference what color you are. Guys with clean records, black, white, brown, or yellow, are favored for endorsements. Like I said, Obama admitted to doing coke. Did you crucify him when it happened? Hell, if you don't think guys who hit a bong should be on endorsements, I would be surprised if you think admitted coke doers should be president. The problem is kids look up to athletes as role models. It's easier for a politicians dirty laundry to be aired out. Absolutely everything from your past surfaces and obviously current stuff matters more. Someone like Tom Brady wouldn't be in trouble for dog fighting because he's white. Dog fighting is a cultural thing, especially in the south. Lets face it - white people (including judges and juries) love dogs and pretty much put them on par with little children. I saw a program on the Discovery Channel or some channel like that, where they focused on Michael Vick's dogs being rehabilitated in Dogtown for an hour. ZzzZzzZzz What a boring @ss show. I'm all about cultural relativism. But I do not see your point. If something is illegal, it is illegal. I don't think blacks are big on drag-racing or hunting. IMO, those are more "white" sporting events. Hell, even swimming, skiing, or ice skating. Regardless, a law is a law. If you are swimming after hours in a pool, you can be fined for trespassing. If you hunt illegally, you will be prosecuted. If you drag-race, you will be prosecuted. If you drag-race and kill someone, you will be strongly prosecuted. I am not denying blacks may have a higher propensity for dog fighting based on where they grew up, but that has absolutely nothing to do with this.
February 3, 200916 yr it's subway girl! somebody want to take a crack at 'splaining this? :laugh: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thechickenkid/3233231378/
February 3, 200916 yr it's subway girl! somebody want to take a crack at 'splaining this? :laugh: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thechickenkid/3233231378/ I bet she wasn't on the Bronx portion of the 2 or 5 train doing this!
February 3, 200916 yr Hey David, how did you post that? I have been trying to figure out how to post google maps on here for about a week lol. Wait, nevermind it was just a photo. Silly me lol.
February 3, 200916 yr "Phelps has added his name to a long list of rich, arrogant, dimwitted celebrity jocks who just can't live up to their hype" What in the hell does that mean? How is he arrogant? Because he hit a bong? Big freaking deal. Will it cost him endorsements? Yes. Are the amount of endorsements one gets the measure of how good a person is? No. If I remember correctly, I think our beloved President admitted to doing cocaine. Should we all now judge him so harshly. What a crock. I bet they'll take his @ss off the Kellog's Corn Flakes box. They should! If he was a minority. He would have been "five minutes ago" after his first offense. Here we go.... Why don't you cite examples. Let me guess, Michael Vick is a victim. Point is, it makes no difference what color you are. Guys with clean records, black, white, brown, or yellow, are favored for endorsements. Like I said, Obama admitted to doing coke. Did you crucify him when it happened? Hell, if you don't think guys who hit a bong should be on endorsements, I would be surprised if you think admitted coke doers should be president. The problem is kids look up to athletes as role models. It's easier for a politicians dirty laundry to be aired out. Absolutely everything from your past surfaces and obviously current stuff matters more. Someone like Tom Brady wouldn't be in trouble for dog fighting because he's white. Dog fighting is a cultural thing, especially in the south. Lets face it - white people (including judges and juries) love dogs and pretty much put them on par with little children. I saw a program on the Discovery Channel or some channel like that, where they focused on Michael Vick's dogs being rehabilitated in Dogtown for an hour. ZzzZzzZzz What a boring @ss show. I'm all about cultural relativism. But I do not see your point. If something is illegal, it is illegal. I don't think blacks are big on drag-racing or hunting. IMO, those are more "white" sporting events. Hell, even swimming, skiing, or ice skating. Regardless, a law is a law. If you are swimming after hours in a pool, you can be fined for trespassing. If you hunt illegally, you will be prosecuted. If you drag-race, you will be prosecuted. If you drag-race and kill someone, you will be strongly prosecuted. I am not denying blacks may have a higher propensity for dog fighting based on where they grew up, but that has absolutely nothing to do with this. It does because laws should change according to cultural attitude. That's why we have laws that are up to the individual states. In Michael Vick's case, he received state and federal felony charges.
February 3, 200916 yr Hey David, how did you post that? I have been trying to figure out how to post google maps on here for about a week lol. Wait, nevermind it was just a photo. Silly me lol. Yeah, when you look at the grand scheme of things, I don't think many people would use google maps to embed in forums so maybe it's not worth their time. I had to hit control and print screen, then save it and host it.
February 3, 200916 yr It does because laws should change according to cultural attitude. That's why we have laws that are up to the individual states. In Michael Vick's case, he received state and federal felony charges. That would be utterly impossible and useless. First of all, I think you might have a hard time proving that black culture is all about torturing dogs. Perhaps a segment of it is, but how in the world would you show that? Furthermore, what about the supposed segment that does not believe in torturing animals? Would you say that they are not staying true to black culture? Furthermore, I am sure there are plenty of whites who love to train dogs and fight them. Just because they are, according to you, in the minority of white culture, should their beliefs not be respected? Then look at the issue of location. People from the Left Coast have very different views from those in the Bible Belt. Do you also take location into consideration? Some Indians believe in infanticide of female off-spring. Do we make separate laws for them? Or what about Muslims who do not believe that women are equal to men. Should we allow them to discriminate and brutalize? It just seems like a very implausible, reckless idea.
February 3, 200916 yr It does because laws should change according to cultural attitude. That's why we have laws that are up to the individual states. In Michael Vick's case, he received state and federal felony charges. That would be utterly impossible and useless. First of all, I think you might have a hard time proving that black culture is all about torturing dogs. Perhaps a segment of it is, but how in the world would you show that? Furthermore, what about the supposed segment that does not believe in torturing animals? Would you say that they are not staying true to black culture? Furthermore, I am sure there are plenty of whites who love to train dogs and fight them. Just because they are, according to you, in the minority of white culture, should their beliefs not be respected? Then look at the issue of location. People from the Left Coast have very different views from those in the Bible Belt. Do you also take location into consideration? Some Indians believe in infanticide of female off-spring. Do we make separate laws for them? Or what about Muslims who do not believe that women are equal to men. Should we allow them to discriminate and brutalize? It just seems like a very implausible, reckless idea. This is a debate about beliefs and it's not going to go anywhere productive. My basic point is that the people in power are the ones who make the laws. They're going to look at dog fighting differently than certain facets of society. I wasn't just talking about whether or not someone should be punished for dog fighting, but to what extent should they be punished? He got suspended from the NFL, lost his endorsements and went to prison. The people who ruined his career didn't grow up in the inner city around dog fighting culture so that's going to bring forth a worse outcome for the case. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying dog fighting is right and that it shouldn't be stopped. Just that the attitude changes with different people.
February 3, 200916 yr "The people who ruined his career..." I think it should be the other way around. But I did not disagree with your point. I merely pointed out that I think it is reckless and implausible. The Sudanese find no problem with slicing and dicing the clits of females, or stitching the vagina shut to ensure viriginity. You're right, I cannot comprehend how they think it is acceptable, while in their culture, there is nothing wrong with it. Many whites were also brought up to look at blacks as sub-human animals. Hey, it's just the hillbilly's culture. Let's not penalize him for it. Let's not try to change his behavior.
February 3, 200916 yr Why does America get such a bad rep for being racist, ignorant and overall just not giving a sh!t about other cultures? I'm watching a show on tv and they just brought up the head scarf ban in France. Then there was the Dutch anti-islam film. Throwing bananas out on soccer fields - I forgot where that was. Europe still HATES immigrants. America is used to them. We've had waves of immigrants non-stop for hundreds of years. Eastern Europe seems extremely racist, especially after communism. They're full of neo-nazis and skinheads.
February 3, 200916 yr Why does America get such a bad rep for being racist, ignorant and overall just not giving a sh!t about other cultures? I'm watching a show on tv and they just brought up the head scarf ban in France. Then there was the Dutch anti-islam film. Throwing bananas out on soccer fields - I forgot where that was. Europe still HATES immigrants. America is used to them. We've had waves of immigrants non-stop for hundreds of years. Eastern Europe seems extremely racist, especially after communism. They're full of neo-nazis and skinheads. Now David, I partially agree, but are you stereotyping?
February 3, 200916 yr we just had a President that convinced the American people that all middle easterners are terrorists. That says it all. Why does America get such a bad rep for being racist, ignorant and overall just not giving a sh!t about other cultures? I'm watching a show on tv and they just brought up the head scarf ban in France. Then there was the Dutch anti-islam film. Throwing bananas out on soccer fields - I forgot where that was. Europe still HATES immigrants. America is used to them. We've had waves of immigrants non-stop for hundreds of years. Eastern Europe seems extremely racist, especially after communism. They're full of neo-nazis and skinheads.
February 3, 200916 yr I'm sure everyone has heard about the Christian Bale blow up recorded on a Hollywood set. Completely going off on one of the staff members who accidentally walked on to the set - I think it was the Director of Photography. Anyway, someone already has a song out about it. Edited by rob_1412 to remove link to YouTube video
February 3, 200916 yr In other news ... "Jessica Simpson was spotted at CVG after hanging out with heart throb Cincinnatus"
February 4, 200916 yr In other news ... "Jessica Simpson was spotted at CVG after hanging out with heart throb Cincinnatus"
February 4, 200916 yr Honestly, I think the media holds white athletes to a higher moral standard then get surprised when they do drugs or something. Just look at Brett Favre. If pictures surfaced of Tom Brady smoking a bong, all hell would break loose. But it's weed! That's not even close to as a bad as you average anti-depressant or anxiety drug. Weed is child's play. People need to get off of Phelp's ass and let him live his life. He's not hurting anybody by smoking pot. Sheriff investigates whether Michael Phelps smoked pot Story Highlights Charges will be filed if warranted, sheriff's spokesman says Tabloid published photo it says was taken at University of South Carolina Photo shows Phelps with a water pipe used for smoking pot Phelps apologized over weekend for "regrettable behavior" (CNN) -- A South Carolina sheriff's office is investigating whether Olympic gold medalist Michael Phelps smoked marijuana on the University of South Carolina campus. Authorities will file criminal charges if the investigation determines that they are warranted, a spokesman said Tuesday. "If someone breaks the law in Richland County, we have an obligation as law enforcement to investigate and to bring charges," Sheriff Leon Lott said in a statement. All AboutMichael Phelps • Marijuana • Criminal Investigations http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/03/sheriff.phelps.marijuana/index.html
February 4, 200916 yr This pissed me off! ohhh This sh!t is unacceptable! Why is that? Because it should have been kept out of the news. This will be brought up in '09 performance reviews! :whip: I can't say any more than that!
February 4, 200916 yr Public relations can be really dirty business. If I was Phelps, I'd probably destroy the life of the person who leaked that photo. That photo is epic. Gettyimages status and beyond!
February 4, 200916 yr Honestly, I think the media holds white athletes to a higher moral standard then get surprised when they do drugs or something. Just look at Brett Favre. If pictures surfaced of Tom Brady smoking a bong, all hell would break loose. But it's weed! That's not even close to as a bad as your average painkiller, anti-depressant, or anxiety drug. Weed is child's play. People need to get off Phelps' ass and let him live his life. He's not hurting anybody by smoking pot. And the funny thing about Tom Brady is that he abandoned his baby. Hmm, what's worse, smoking pot or getting a chick pregnant and running away? Phelps didn't do anything wrong by taking a bong hit. He's just having fun and not hurting anyone in the process. So let me get this straight. In America: A. Smoking pot is unacceptable and gets you skewered. B. Smoking pot at a college party is worse than drinking and driving (Phelps got a DUI, but that didn't create the mess that his bong photo has). C. Being a man-whore and running away from your babies makes you cool. Gotcha. This assault on Phelps is just twisted. Weed is not helping him swim any faster. Last Sunday, probably half those guys in the Superbowl were on steroids or growth hormone. It seems like there is a double standard when it comes to professional athletics. Olympians get skewered for anything they do while NFL players are celebrated for it. :| And then this joke from the New York Post editorial: Where I come from, 23 is a full-fledged adult. No, not even close. You're a kid until you're damn near 30 these days. Most 23-year-olds are just "big children." Hell, many people in America never grow up. you're right. Michael Phelps can do whatever the hell he wants. As a matter of fact, he never has to "grow up" if he doesn't want to. But that doesn't mean corporations have to pay him millions of dollars to endorse their products. I'm betting that in the contracts he's already signed there are clauses voiding any agreements just in case this sort of situation should arise. He's been a celebrated public figure since well before the Olympics, so I'm guessing he's had a host of professional "handlers" advising him of his every move for at least a year; it's not like he couldn't imagine the consequences of his actions if they were revealed to the public. He has no one to blame but himself. http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
February 4, 200916 yr 2 hours on mason-montgomery from P&G to Fields-Ertel, ~1.5miles, then another 2 1/2 to get to Delhi. I'm in a fighting mood. 1. I don't think dog fighting is limited to blacks. Don't know where you get that info. 2. Tom Brady is as dispicable as far as I am concerned, he shouldn't get any endorsements either. 3. Who really cares about Phelps? EVD is right, he can do what he wants, but companies don't have to let him endorse their products. He's arrogant because he thinks he can drink and drive, and smoke dope and still get millions in endorsements. 4. I'm disappointed, I thought Cincinnatus had better taste than that. 5. Fat, drunk, stupid, and stoned is no way to go through life son.
February 4, 200916 yr I don't know who said dog fighting was limited to blacks. It wasn't me, if that's what someone was implying. I said dog fighting is a cultural thing. Just like street racing. Different people are going to have different opinions on how bad it is. All I did was stereotype white people and claim they treat dogs like small children which I believe is true for the most part. I hate PETA. Dogs aren't humans. Indians think cows are holy, we think they're tasty.
February 4, 200916 yr Someone like Tom Brady wouldn't be in trouble for dog fighting because he's white. Dog fighting is a cultural thing, especially in the south. Lets face it - white people (including judges and juries) love dogs and pretty much put them on par with little children. No one is saying Phelps didn't make his own bed. But to freaking castrate the guy for hitting a bong? Please, let me see a show of hands of all UOers who have never done such a thing. Like I said before, I believe a certain president admitted snorting coke. And now that I think of it, another one hit the peace pipe too, but did not inhale. Good point on Tom Brady being an absolute dirt bag. Hell, I think Matt Leinhart should be thrown in with him.
February 4, 200916 yr Someone like Tom Brady wouldn't be in trouble for dog fighting because he's white. Dog fighting is a cultural thing, especially in the south. Lets face it - white people (including judges and juries) love dogs and pretty much put them on par with little children. No one is saying Phelps didn't make his own bed. But to freaking castrate the guy for hitting a bong? Please, let me see a show of hands of all UOers who have never done such a thing. Like I said before, I believe a certain president admitted snorting coke. And now that I think of it, another one hit the peace pipe too, but did not inhale. Good point on Tom Brady being an absolute dirt bag. Hell, I think Matt Leinhart should be thrown in with him. :wave:
February 4, 200916 yr No one is saying Phelps didn't make his own bed. But to freaking castrate the guy for hitting a bong? Please, let me see a show of hands of all UOers who have never done such a thing. Like I said before, I believe a certain president admitted snorting coke. And now that I think of it, another one hit the peace pipe too, but did not inhale. Yeah, thats what happens when you risk everything, especially in public. My youngest is a swimmer, and just worships him. In fact, her b-day was the other day and she got his book for a gift. We made it clear, he is not someone to look up to. As for the presidents, it says more about the electorate than about them.
February 4, 200916 yr No one is saying Phelps didn't make his own bed. But to freaking castrate the guy for hitting a bong? Please, let me see a show of hands of all UOers who have never done such a thing. Like I said before, I believe a certain president admitted snorting coke. And now that I think of it, another one hit the peace pipe too, but did not inhale. Yeah, thats what happens when you risk everything, especially in public. My youngest is a swimmer, and just worships him. In fact, her b-day was the other day and she got his book for a gift. We made it clear, he is not someone to look up to. As for the presidents, it says more about the electorate than about them. Now thats a parent!! My brother has that same conversation with my middle nephew and younger niece about LeBron. They worship LeBron. My brother gave the a long talk, and in lieu of it being BHM he point out people that they should "look up to" and aspire to be like.
February 4, 200916 yr My brother has that same conversation with my middle nephew and younger niece about LeBron. They worship LeBron. My brother gave the a long talk, and in lieu of it being BHM he point out people that they should "look up to" and aspire to be like. Nothing brings a smile to my face more than good parenting, especially a great father. :clap: :clap: :clap:
February 4, 200916 yr My brother has that same conversation with my middle nephew and younger niece about LeBron. They worship LeBron. My brother gave the a long talk, and in lieu of it being BHM he point out people that they should "look up to" and aspire to be like. Nothing brings a smile to my face more than good parenting, especially a great father. :clap: :clap: :clap: well my brother has some great men in his life, that showed him the way. My father and both my grand fathers (especially my fathers father) are great parents.
February 4, 200916 yr Thanks, its one of the few things at which I feel successful! I am struggling with the diminished role as they get older, but even at 28, the oldest one acts like a child at times!!! Lebron's a tough one. While he hasn't done anything wrong, you want your kids to aspire to greater things then just their physical gifts.
February 4, 200916 yr Someone like Tom Brady wouldn't be in trouble for dog fighting because he's white. Dog fighting is a cultural thing, especially in the south. Lets face it - white people (including judges and juries) love dogs and pretty much put them on par with little children. No one is saying Phelps didn't make his own bed. But to freaking castrate the guy for hitting a bong? Please, let me see a show of hands of all UOers who have never done such a thing. Like I said before, I believe a certain president admitted snorting coke. And now that I think of it, another one hit the peace pipe too, but did not inhale. Good point on Tom Brady being an absolute dirt bag. Hell, I think Matt Leinhart should be thrown in with him. All I'm saying is that he should have kept it private. I wouldn't smoke weed in front of my little nephew that looks up to me. I don't care if he smokes weed. It's his choice if he wants to smoke, get the munchies, balloon into 30 percent body fat and struggle to win in the olympics again lol.
February 4, 200916 yr Thanks, its one of the few things at which I feel successful! I am struggling with the diminished role as they get older, but even at 28, the oldest one acts like a child at times!!! Lebron's a tough one. While he hasn't done anything wrong, you want your kids to aspire to greater things then just their physical gifts. thats why my brother says. I tell the kids, beauty and brawn fades and stupid is forever. Get a damn education! B's are not acceptable!
February 4, 200916 yr Someone like Tom Brady wouldn't be in trouble for dog fighting because he's white. Dog fighting is a cultural thing, especially in the south. Lets face it - white people (including judges and juries) love dogs and pretty much put them on par with little children. No one is saying Phelps didn't make his own bed. But to freaking castrate the guy for hitting a bong? Please, let me see a show of hands of all UOers who have never done such a thing. Like I said before, I believe a certain president admitted snorting coke. And now that I think of it, another one hit the peace pipe too, but did not inhale. Good point on Tom Brady being an absolute dirt bag. Hell, I think Matt Leinhart should be thrown in with him. All I'm saying is that he should have kept it private. I wouldn't smoke weed in front of my little nephew that looks up to me. I don't care if he smokes weed. It's his choice if he wants to smoke, get the munchies, balloon into 30 percent body fat and struggle to win in the olympics again lol. I think we can all agree to that.
February 4, 200916 yr I don't think so. I was looking for those when I was doing my planning project.
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