June 1, 20214 yr There are a lot or larger airports that have rental parking on the first couple floors of the garage. Orlando is one that stands out.
June 1, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said: There are a lot or larger airports that have rental parking on the first couple floors of the garage. Orlando is one that stands out. Honestly, I cant wait for CVG new rental car facility to open. I wont have to use it, but the fact that you will grab your bags, take the skywalk next door to the new parking garage, grab a vehicle and leave will be a game changer. No more waiting for buses to drive you to the facility and back.
June 1, 20214 yr 26 minutes ago, savadams13 said: Honestly, I cant wait for CVG new rental car facility to open. I wont have to use it, but the fact that you will grab your bags, take the skywalk next door to the new parking garage, grab a vehicle and leave will be a game changer. No more waiting for buses to drive you to the facility and back. Honestly, large or small airports, I think it is pretty much the wave of what travelers desire and better for the rental car companies too. Maybe back when Cincinnati was a large Delta hub with 600 destinations it made sense to have a close garage for the overnight get away. However, I think that even with a large hub such as Chicago or a Boston, it makes sense to keep them in the garage by the terminal. Since 9/11, gone are the days where you could pull up to the gate 20 minutes before your flight and hop on a plane. That lessens the demp and for such close parking. Plus, there is a lot less demand for vistors to park at the terminal garage to go and wait for thier guests at the gate. Furthermore, with cell phones and the internet, it is easy to track the flight to make sure you do not arrive an hour ahead of time and hneed to park and wait. Travel styles to the airport have changed in the last 20 years making some of the uses of those expensive garages obsolete.
June 1, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said: Honestly, large or small airports, I think it is pretty much the wave of what travelers desire and better for the rental car companies too. Maybe back when Cincinnati was a large Delta hub with 600 destinations it made sense to have a close garage for the overnight get away. However, I think that even with a large hub such as Chicago or a Boston, it makes sense to keep them in the garage by the terminal. Since 9/11, gone are the days where you could pull up to the gate 20 minutes before your flight and hop on a plane. That lessens the demp and for such close parking. Plus, there is a lot less demand for vistors to park at the terminal garage to go and wait for thier guests at the gate. Furthermore, with cell phones and the internet, it is easy to track the flight to make sure you do not arrive an hour ahead of time and hneed to park and wait. Travel styles to the airport have changed in the last 20 years making some of the uses of those expensive garages obsolete. I just find it odd that Columbus has the rental cars right in the parking garage by the terminal (amazing location) and instead is moving it out past the hotels and mcdonalds (bad location). Now that they are struggling to find long term parking bus drivers they will need to do the same for rental car facility buses. Eliminating the shuttle buses is a huge logistical situation with building these facilities within walking distance to the terminals.
June 1, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, savadams13 said: I just find it odd that Columbus has the rental cars right in the parking garage by the terminal (amazing location) and instead is moving it out past the hotels and mcdonalds (bad location). Now that they are struggling to find long term parking bus drivers they will need to do the same for rental car facility buses. Eliminating the shuttle buses is a huge logistical situation with building these facilities within walking distance to the terminals. But isnt Columbus trying to build a new main terminal on that side of the property anyway? Maybe it is part of the long term plan to get things moved over to that part of the airport??
June 2, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said: But isnt Columbus trying to build a new main terminal on that side of the property anyway? Maybe it is part of the long term plan to get things moved over to that part of the airport?? Yes, CMH will be building a brand new terminal next to the new rental car garage. Once built, the new terminal will connect directly to the new rental car garage and a new parking garage that will be built next to the rental garage. It seems like a dumb design now, but it will make sense once the plan is built out.
June 2, 20214 yr It's nice to see all those jets at the D concourse. That Google maps photo must have been from last summer.
June 2, 20214 yr I couldn't open the Crain's article, but just got a news alert that the Sheraton at CLE was sold. https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/cleveland-hotel-sells-38-million
June 2, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Cleburger said: I couldn't open the Crain's article, but just got a news alert that the Sheraton at CLE was sold. https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/cleveland-hotel-sells-38-million It is the Sheraton Four Points on W 150th, not the Airport Sheraton. https://www.prlog.org/12872022-nexgen-hotels-acquires-four-points-by-sheraton-in-cleveland-ohio.html
June 2, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, skiwest said: It is the Sheraton Four Points on W 150th, not the Airport Sheraton. https://www.prlog.org/12872022-nexgen-hotels-acquires-four-points-by-sheraton-in-cleveland-ohio.html Ah bummer. I must have misread the headline. I wish the one at CLE was getting some lifeblood!
June 2, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Cleburger said: Ah bummer. I must have misread the headline. I wish the one at CLE was getting some lifeblood! They are proposing to tear the on-site Sheraton down for PAL 3 (phase 2 or 3 of the rebuild proposal) so I don’t think there will be any investments in it. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
June 9, 20214 yr Spirit new service CLE to Miami: https://www.cleveland.com/travel/2021/06/spirit-airlines-to-launch-cleveland-to-miami-route-in-november.html
June 9, 20214 yr 18 minutes ago, skiwest said: Spirit new service CLE to Miami: https://www.cleveland.com/travel/2021/06/spirit-airlines-to-launch-cleveland-to-miami-route-in-november.html I'm curious what, if anything, American Airlines will do to react to their entry in the market. Didn't Frontier operate this route too at one point?
June 9, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, plinth857 said: I'm curious what, if anything, American Airlines will do to react to their entry in the market. Didn't Frontier operate this route too at one point? Frontier did and it didnt impact American too much. American wont adjust i dont think too much. They fly very small planes between CLE and MIA and its a natural feeder for the Caribbean. Spirit is most likely competing with all of the South Florida destination travelers that fly directly to FLL
June 9, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, BelievelandD1 said: Frontier did and it didnt impact American too much. American wont adjust i dont think too much. They fly very small planes between CLE and MIA and its a natural feeder for the Caribbean. Spirit is most likely competing with all of the South Florida destination travelers that fly directly to FLL I've connected in Miami on American recently, and they used to use the E145's, but recently they've dropped down to one flight (instead of multiple) and it's on a mainline aircraft. The last time I connected there was in January and it was on a 737 that left super early in the morning. It was still >90% full, even in the midst of Covid. But in the end, I think you're right, the ULCC's won't influence AA much on this route.
June 9, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, plinth857 said: I've connected in Miami on American recently, and they used to use the E145's, but recently they've dropped down to one flight (instead of multiple) and it's on a mainline aircraft. Currently, American has one nonstop to Miami - an early morning flight on Airbus A319, but it looks like they will be adding an afternoon flight on Embraer E145 in late August (according to Expedia).
June 9, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, plinth857 said: I've connected in Miami on American recently, and they used to use the E145's, but recently they've dropped down to one flight (instead of multiple) and it's on a mainline aircraft. The last time I connected there was in January and it was on a 737 that left super early in the morning. It was still >90% full, even in the midst of Covid. But in the end, I think you're right, the ULCC's won't influence AA much on this route. interesting. Noting skiwests comment about twice daily, I am hopeful they go back to three times daily. early AM, midday and night....i would use that route frequently. Edited June 9, 20214 yr by BelievelandD1
June 9, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, plinth857 said: I'm curious what, if anything, American Airlines will do to react to their entry in the market. Didn't Frontier operate this route too at one point? Frontier still does. I actually have a nonstop flight with frontier to Miami in about a week.
June 10, 20214 yr 22 hours ago, BelievelandD1 said: iI am hopeful they go back to three times daily. early AM, midday and night....i would use that route frequently. I did notice a few dates that I selected show a third AA nonstop in the evening. But most other dates just show two. Edited June 10, 20214 yr by skiwest
June 17, 20213 yr Progress on the new ground transportation center at CLE. This is at the north end of the terminal (closest to concourse A). When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
June 25, 20213 yr So it appears Sometime in the pandemic that American or JetBlue are partnering or going towards a merger? anyway, I checked a direct flight from Cleveland to Boston on the JetBlue app and again on the American app. The flight on the JetBlue app is like $210 and the same flight on the American Airlines app is $439z. Does anyone know why the same flight would have such a drastic price difference?
June 25, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, BelievelandD1 said: So it appears Sometime in the pandemic that American or JetBlue are partnering or going towards a merger? anyway, I checked a direct flight from Cleveland to Boston on the JetBlue app and again on the American app. The flight on the JetBlue app is like $210 and the same flight on the American Airlines app is $439z. Does anyone know why the same flight would have such a drastic price difference? Probably American "space" on a JetBlue aircraft. So American ultimately plans on using that space to connect passengers via code share. But they put it on the open market in case anyone buys it.
June 25, 20213 yr 6 hours ago, BelievelandD1 said: So it appears Sometime in the pandemic that American or JetBlue are partnering or going towards a merger? anyway, I checked a direct flight from Cleveland to Boston on the JetBlue app and again on the American app. The flight on the JetBlue app is like $210 and the same flight on the American Airlines app is $439z. Does anyone know why the same flight would have such a drastic price difference? I think your JetBlue price is a one-way fare and the American is round trip. I tried a dummy booking leaving CLE on July 19th and returning July 22. Both airlines quoted $458 round trip, although JetBlue was more upfront with the additional $63 tax. If you look at weekend flights and less popular trips, a variety of lower prices are available on both airlines. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
June 25, 20213 yr 7 hours ago, BelievelandD1 said: So it appears Sometime in the pandemic that American or JetBlue are partnering or going towards a merger? anyway, I checked a direct flight from Cleveland to Boston on the JetBlue app and again on the American app. The flight on the JetBlue app is like $210 and the same flight on the American Airlines app is $439z. Does anyone know why the same flight would have such a drastic price difference? I went on to Expedia and I see difference prices, but JetBlue price is "basic economy" whereas American is "Economy". Maybe that is why they are different.
August 14, 20213 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 14, 20213 yr 3 minutes ago, KJP said: Not sure what a ground stop at Hopkins would have to do with the "cell phone lot overlfowing," or how there "won't be enough room for new passengers." I'm sure CLE wasn't in any danger.
August 24, 20213 yr I would think the overflow would be due to people not parking in a lot to pick people up, but rather just doing laps waiting to get them at the arrival area.
August 31, 20213 yr Cleveland Hopkins International Airport (finally) opens new ground transportation center for shuttle drop-offs, pick-ups Cleveland Hopkins International Airport early Tuesday debuted the long-delayed $3.5 million Ground Transportation Center for rental-car, off-site parking and hotel shuttle drop-offs and pick-ups. The project has been years in the making, as airport officials have struggled to ease congestion on the increasingly crowded roadways in front of the terminal. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2021/08/31/airport-opens-ground-transportation-center.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 31, 20213 yr "Taxi drivers will eventually move over to the new [transportation center], although not until a walkway to the Red Parking Lot is complete, likely in six to eight weeks. After taxis move to the new facility, Uber and Lyft drivers will pick up passengers at the cabs’ former location, on the lower level at the south end of the terminal." https://www.cleveland.com/news/2021/08/cleveland-hopkins-international-airport-finally-opens-new-ground-transportation-center-for-shuttle-drop-offs-pick-ups.html Step outside the terminal and you'll see zero taxis. Seems like another nail in the coffin for the taxi industry in favor of uber and lyft.
August 31, 20213 yr From the cleveland.com article: "This new center isn’t exactly a long-term solution, either. Eventually, the Ground Transportation Center will be relocated again, as part of a much larger, $2 billion plan to rebuild the terminal at Cleveland Hopkins. That may not happen for anther decade..."
August 31, 20213 yr 4 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said: From the cleveland.com article: "This new center isn’t exactly a long-term solution, either. Eventually, the Ground Transportation Center will be relocated again, as part of a much larger, $2 billion plan to rebuild the terminal at Cleveland Hopkins. That may not happen for anther decade..." Yeah, I saw that. As long as they're not using federal money, the city can build a new ground transportation center every couple of years.
August 31, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, Pugu said: Step outside the terminal and you'll see zero taxis. Seems like another nail in the coffin for the taxi industry in favor of uber and lyft. Sad--as a frequent traveler this is the one place i use taxis as they are always lined up in the queue at most airports. No waiting or trying to find drivers. My only complaint at CLE was often drivers had to rely on GPS, but that's really no different than the usual Uber/Lyft driver these days.
August 31, 20213 yr 4 hours ago, Cleburger said: Sad--as a frequent traveler this is the one place i use taxis as they are always lined up in the queue at most airports. No waiting or trying to find drivers. My only complaint at CLE was often drivers had to rely on GPS, but that's really no different than the usual Uber/Lyft driver these days. Same here. It’s the only time I used a taxi was to take one home from the airport.
September 2, 20213 yr United adding CLE-NAS (Nassau, Bahamas). Saturday only starting Jan 1, 2022. https://liveandletsfly.com/united-airlines-new-latin-routes/ Edited September 2, 20213 yr by Pugu
September 3, 20213 yr 19 hours ago, Pugu said: United adding CLE-NAS (Nassau, Bahamas). Saturday only starting Jan 1, 2022. https://liveandletsfly.com/united-airlines-new-latin-routes/ If Nassau is back, can San Juan be far behind? SJU is a bigger market. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
September 3, 20213 yr 20 hours ago, Pugu said: United adding CLE-NAS (Nassau, Bahamas). Saturday only starting Jan 1, 2022. https://liveandletsfly.com/united-airlines-new-latin-routes/ Seems like such an odd one off flight. I guess when CLE was a hub, this was a popular destination. I wonder if CMH and CVG who both received unique seasonal routes like CHS, HHI, PNS from United could see routes change to different locations like NAS.
September 3, 20213 yr 32 minutes ago, savadams13 said: Seems like such an odd one off flight. I guess when CLE was a hub, this was a popular destination. I wonder if CMH and CVG who both received unique seasonal routes like CHS, HHI, PNS from United could see routes change to different locations like NAS. Once a week with a 69 passenger plane? I think the CLE market could support that kind of resort flight to just about anywhere. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
September 3, 20213 yr 3 minutes ago, Dougal said: Once a week with a 75 passenger plane? I think the CLE market could support that kind of resort flight to just about anywhere. Yeah they probably have the larger travel agencies pushing it and selling the seats. 1x weekly should be no issue.
September 3, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, savadams13 said: Seems like such an odd one off flight. I guess when CLE was a hub, this was a popular destination. I wonder if CMH and CVG who both received unique seasonal routes like CHS, HHI, PNS from United could see routes change to different locations like NAS. Business travel--the bread and butter of United--is still down. So to utilize their planes and contracts and to make some cash, they are doing what the Frontiers/Spirits of the world are doing---point to point leisure flights--hence flights like CMH to CHS. Pre-covid, any such trip would require a change of planes at EWR or IAD (or CLE back in the day). I hope the CLE-NAS flight stays as with the large UA pax base here, it does not have to be a temporary, pandemic-related flight. Note though that this is not a mainline UA flight on UA equipment--it will be operated by Mesa Airlines and branded as UA. Edited September 3, 20213 yr by Pugu
September 7, 20213 yr On 9/2/2021 at 3:09 PM, Pugu said: United adding CLE-NAS (Nassau, Bahamas). Saturday only starting Jan 1, 2022. Service now begins Dec 18 2021. Departs CLE 905am; departs NAS 105pm.
September 24, 20213 yr Allegiant Air pulling out of Cleveland Hopkins airport https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/allegiant-air-pulling-out-of-cleveland-hopkins-airport/ar-AAOMSVI?ocid=BingNewsSearch
September 24, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, dski44 said: Allegiant Air pulling out of Cleveland Hopkins airport https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/allegiant-air-pulling-out-of-cleveland-hopkins-airport/ar-AAOMSVI?ocid=BingNewsSearch I won't be losing any sleep over it.
September 24, 20213 yr 33 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said: I won't be losing any sleep over it. You may not, but myself and many others will. It was a quick and cheap way to get to Savannah and Hilton Head for my wife and I. Edited September 24, 20213 yr by Klingaling87
September 24, 20213 yr G4 had some destinations from CLE that only they served like Jacksonville---so it does impact CLE even if those services were less than daily. It is strange that they are fully dropping CLE as CLE wasn't that small of a station for them---they served ten cities from it (not to mention that CLE is a big air market with 4-5m people). Maybe they're really hurting from covid and have to make cuts, give back some planes, etc.
September 25, 20213 yr While acknowledging the price this will have on individual travelers like @Klingaling87I also hope this is an overall net positive for CLE. It eliminates the carrier most likely to be unsupportive of the master plan renovation/expansion (thus improving the chances that it will be implemented in one form or another), and increases the likelihood that an existing carrier with more consistent and reliable service will (re)enter one of the markets Allegiant previously served from CLE (esp. SAV or JAX).
September 25, 20213 yr I guess it's nice to have low cost airlines serving CLE, but I wonder how committed they are. It seems like if they don't get the numbers they expect within a short period of time, the flights are dropped. Hopefully, another existing carrier will step in to provide service to those destinations.
September 29, 20213 yr Club CLE: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2021/09/the-club-cle-lounge-opens-at-cleveland-hopkins-airport-open-to-all-travelers-for-a-fee.html
September 29, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: Club CLE: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2021/09/the-club-cle-lounge-opens-at-cleveland-hopkins-airport-open-to-all-travelers-for-a-fee.html This is the same space as the previous Airspace Lounge at the Terminal end of the B concourse. It is also a part of Priority Pass, so I’m assuming AmEx Platinum card holders should be able to get in. The space doesn’t even have restrooms, so I don’t think it would be worth the regular access fee of $45. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
October 7, 20213 yr United adding flights to Las Vegas and Phoenix this winter. https://www.cleveland.com/travel/2021/10/united-airlines-adding-flights-from-cleveland-hopkins-to-las-vegas-phoenix-this-winter.html
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