October 26, 20222 yr 9 hours ago, jcw92 said: Cool: Once-forgotten Viktor Schreckengost sculpture to be reinstalled at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/10/once-forgotten-viktor-schreckengost-sculpture-to-be-reinstalled-at-cleveland-hopkins-international-airport.html “He was commissioned to create the 15-piece “Time & Space” artwork in 1956 for the airport. The sculpture, made from steel rods and aluminum, depicts the twelve signs of the Zodiac, as well as the Earth, moon and a gold-leaf sun. It was placed above the then-new entryway as an homage to the way early travelers used the stars to navigate.” “The airport’s art director, Shari Cloud, told a City Council committee on the Monday that the restored piece is now expected to be installed near the airport’s Central Checkpoint. Cloud did not say when the piece would be publicly viewable again, though the city has already selected Impact Communications to install it in its new home.” Render from article: When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
October 26, 20222 yr North Olmsted's little airline Commute Air (that's how they spell it now), currently a United Express operator, has filed for authority to operate charter flights and for larger planes. Maybe we'll see some revenue flights out of CLE again. https://www.regulations.gov/document/DOT-OST-2022-0125-0001 Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
October 27, 20222 yr 16 hours ago, Dougal said: North Olmsted's little airline Commute Air (that's how they spell it now), currently a United Express operator, has filed for authority to operate charter flights and for larger planes. Maybe we'll see some revenue flights out of CLE again. https://www.regulations.gov/document/DOT-OST-2022-0125-0001 Further thoughts: currently CommuteAir operates 64 50-seat Embraer 145s for United which is trying to phase out 50-seaters. So no future for CommuteAir as it currently flies. They plan to acquire ONE E-175 for training and charter purposes, per their application. No sane airline buys ONE of anything for passenger hauling. So they're going to acquire more E175s to operate - presumably for UA. But ... with a little encouragement from JobsOhio et al. could they fill some of the gaps in CLE's pattern? There is precedent for doing that as "at risk" flying, meaning not financially supported by UA but still as UA-numbered and sold flights. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
November 7, 20222 yr Frontier Airlines restarts service to Fort Lauderdale. https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2022/11/frontier-airlines-restarts-cleveland-to-fort-lauderdale-service.html
November 19, 20222 yr CLE ranked 27th out of 30 middle-sized airports in a WSJ survey reported today. The three lower ones were Washington Reagan, New York LaGuardia, and San Juan,PR. There were only 2 criteria in which CLE fared worse than 27th: average taxi-in time - 9 minutes (29th place) and number of non-stop destinations - 37 (29th place). Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
November 19, 20222 yr If CLE passenger numbers get back over 10M it will be in the large airport category, correct? Maybe it will fare a little better there. Has the FAA approved the master plan yet? It would be nice to get the ball rolling on the next step in the terminal renovation. And it looks like the Sheraton is still standing. That should be coming down soon.
November 19, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, LibertyBlvd said: If CLE passenger numbers get back over 10M it will be in the large airport category, correct? Maybe it will fare a little better there. By DoT definition a large hub airport is one with 1% or more of the national traffic. Pre-COVID, the 2018 total traffic was 1.052 billion passengers. So, 10+ million pax might do it, depending on how big the + is. By the WSJ's completely arbitrary definition, a large airport is one of the top 20 in passenger count; medium airport is one of the next 30. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
November 27, 20222 yr CLE officials begin talks with airlines to finance airport rebuild. https://www.cleveland.com/business/2022/11/cleveland-hopkins-officials-begin-talks-with-airlines-to-finance-new-2-billion-airport-rebuild.html
December 24, 20222 yr How feasible would it be for Amazon Air to add service to Cleveland Hopkins? I know they got the big hub at Cincinnati/Covington, and terminals at Pittsburgh and Detroit. With the new Amazon distribution warehouse going up at the nearby former Ford plant, a terminal at CLE seems logical. Edited December 24, 20222 yr by RoabeArt Changed a word for clarification.
December 29, 20222 yr It would be nice if CLE can get started on phase 1 of the master plan a bit sooner than 2025. I believe passenger numbers are back to pre-pandemic levels, and maybe even higher.
January 23, 20232 yr Well, not quite back to pre-pandemic levels, but getting close. https://www.cleveland.com/travel/2023/01/cleveland-hopkins-airport-welcomed-87-million-passengers-in-2022-still-down-from-pre-pandemic-years.html
January 24, 20232 yr Multi-source rumors circulate that Frontier will have some news in the next week or so. If it's a crew base, that would be especially good for the city, not just the passengers at CLE. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
January 24, 20232 yr I see the old Sheraton hotel is still standing. Hopefully it will be coming down soon.
January 25, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: I see the old Sheraton hotel is still standing. Hopefully it will be coming down soon. Another giant step backwards for CLE. We will likely never get another on-property airport hotel with the ability to be directly connected to the terminal.
January 31, 20232 yr On 1/24/2023 at 12:41 PM, Dougal said: Multi-source rumors circulate that Frontier will have some news in the next week or so. If it's a crew base, that would be especially good for the city, not just the passengers at CLE. So far, it's only CLE-San Juan four times a week starting in May. I had been hoping for more. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
January 31, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, Dougal said: So far, it's only CLE-San Juan four times a week starting in May. I had been hoping for more. We'll have to see how long that lasts. Frontier tends to discontinue service rather quickly if they don't get the passenger numbers they expect within the first few months. Edited January 31, 20232 yr by LibertyBlvd
January 31, 20232 yr I have never flown Frontier, but a buddy of mine who lives in Denver has flown with them pretty often and says their seats are the worst. Compares it to sitting on plastic lawn furniture and it is especially murder on long flights. He doesn't know how long his aging body can take it and is thinking of giving them up even though he can often get good deals. He also said one of the worst airlines for add on costs. Maybe people give up on Frontier rather quickly for those reasons and that is why they often don't get the passenger numbers they expect.
January 31, 20232 yr It’s been awhile since I flew Frontier, but I actually didn’t think the seats were too bad. I’m just happy they’re providing direct service to a new destination for CLE. That’s one thing that will encourage me to fly with them. The previous times were to SEA and Cancun, which both had little to no direct service from CLE outside Frontier.
January 31, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Htsguy said: ..a buddy of mine...has flown with them pretty often and says their seats are the worst...He also said one of the worst airlines for add on costs. Maybe people give up on Frontier rather quickly for those reasons and that is why they often don't get the passenger numbers they expect. Almost any time I fly I'm on Frontier or Spirit. If you know what you're getting into it's absolutely fine - I call it the Greyhound of the sky when describing it to folks. They aren't in the flashiest part of airports and you'll prob have to hike to their gate but I'm cheap. If you need to get somewhere on the cheap and don't expect ANY extras you'll be fine (drinks, snacks, power at your seat, a normal sized tray table, screen, etc. (lol, the list goes on...)). And yes, the seats are a few steps up from like the RTA's hard plastic seats. It makes flying one of the legacy carriers a real treat in comparison.
January 31, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Htsguy said: I have never flown Frontier, but a buddy of mine who lives in Denver has flown with them pretty often and says their seats are the worst. Compares it to sitting on plastic lawn furniture and it is especially murder on long flights. He doesn't know how long his aging body can take it and is thinking of giving them up even though he can often get good deals. He also said one of the worst airlines for add on costs. Maybe people give up on Frontier rather quickly for those reasons and that is why they often don't get the passenger numbers they expect. I had to take their red-eye from LAS to CLE last October. It was the single most uncomfortable flight I’ve ever taken and I’ve been on, quite literally, more than a thousand flights over the years. It actually hurt to sit in the seat for that long. Never again. My hovercraft is full of eels
January 31, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Dougal said: So far, it's only CLE-San Juan four times a week starting in May. I had been hoping for more. Last I heard it's still on the table. Between cle and cvg I believe. 🤞 Edited January 31, 20232 yr by viscomi
January 31, 20232 yr We flew Frontier to Cancun last year. One day after we arrived my wife's back went out and wrecked the trip. I didn't realize until now but I think it may have had something to do with Frontier's awful seats. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 8, 20232 yr https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/02/new-rental-car-fee-will-fund-relocation-of-rental-center-back-to-cleveland-hopkins-airport-main-campus.html
February 9, 20232 yr 23 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/02/new-rental-car-fee-will-fund-relocation-of-rental-center-back-to-cleveland-hopkins-airport-main-campus.html The sooner its back at the airport the better, I loathe traveling into CLE and riding to the rental car center.
February 9, 20232 yr It's also a big deal to anyone wanting to live car free in the area as it puts 24/7 car rental at the end of a mass transit line. If you're relying on public transportation and need to get/return a car at weird hours options are slim.
February 9, 20232 yr Glad it's moving back - but can think of numerous major airports that have locations further or less convenient. This isn't just a CLE issue.
February 10, 20232 yr Hi @eyehrtfood… you’re exactly right. I recently traveled into the Raleigh Durham airport and you have to take a bus to where the rental car facilities are.
February 10, 20232 yr 16 hours ago, eyehrtfood said: Glad it's moving back - but can think of numerous major airports that have locations further or less convenient. This isn't just a CLE issue. Yes but for a small airport like Cleveland, you should do everything in your power to make it more convenient and marketable. A rattly bus on roads that feel like Eastern Europe is no way to begin your visit to Cleveland.
February 10, 20232 yr On 1/25/2023 at 3:25 AM, Cleburger said: Another giant step backwards for CLE. We will likely never get another on-property airport hotel with the ability to be directly connected to the terminal. That is unfortunate, however, being hemmed in on all sides, that space can be better utilized for landside operations. Since CLE is no longer a hub, is an on-property hotel needed? There are several hotels in the vicinity. I'm sure they all provide shuttles to/from CLE. Edited February 10, 20232 yr by LibertyBlvd
February 10, 20232 yr CLE has issued and, I believe, awarded the South Campus Development Area Infrastructure Design Services RFQ. I don't know whether this includes the rental car property or if that would be a replacement for the hotel. Anybody know? Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
February 10, 20232 yr 52 minutes ago, Dougal said: CLE has issued and, I believe, awarded the South Campus Development Area Infrastructure Design Services RFQ. I don't know whether this includes the rental car property or if that would be a replacement for the hotel. Anybody know? I’m not sure if I follow your question, but the plan for the rental car facility is to put it in a large new garage right on site on the current Orange lot location. There are no plans for an on-site hotel. Phase 1: Final phase: There was good discussion when the final plans were released starting with this post: When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 23, 20232 yr Speculation on a Frontier pilots' forum talks about a crew domicile being established in Ohio; the question being whether to put it in Cincinnati or Cleveland. This has been rumored for a while; maybe some action will take place this time. https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/frontier/141727-cvg-cle-next-base.html Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
February 23, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, Dougal said: Speculation on a Frontier pilots' forum talks about a crew domicile being established in Ohio; the question being whether to put it in Cincinnati or Cleveland. This has been rumored for a while; maybe some action will take place this time. https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/frontier/141727-cvg-cle-next-base.html My guess is that it would end up at CVG. Besides better weather, it likely has a bigger pilot talent pool. PSA Airlines has a talent base there plus DHL, Atlas Air, and Amazon all have pilot bases there which offers a lot of ability to pull new talent. I am not sure if Cleveland still has a United base or not, but you would think they would go where there are additional pilot synergies.
February 23, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Brutus_buckeye said: My guess is that it would end up at CVG. Besides better weather, it likely has a bigger pilot talent pool. PSA Airlines has a talent base there plus DHL, Atlas Air, and Amazon all have pilot bases there which offers a lot of ability to pull new talent. I am not sure if Cleveland still has a United base or not, but you would think they would go where there are additional pilot synergies. CLE still has a UA crew domicile totaling about 550 people. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
February 23, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, Dougal said: CLE still has a UA crew domicile totaling about 550 people. That would be a for flight attendants, not pilots, correct?
February 23, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said: That would be a for flight attendants, not pilots, correct? It's for both.
February 24, 20232 yr 18 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said: My guess is that it would end up at CVG. Besides better weather, it likely has a bigger pilot talent pool. PSA Airlines has a talent base there plus DHL, Atlas Air, and Amazon all have pilot bases there which offers a lot of ability to pull new talent. I am not sure if Cleveland still has a United base or not, but you would think they would go where there are additional pilot synergies. CVG based here and based on Frontier retracting heavily from Cincinnati, id say CLE for the new crew base. It makes sense for Frontier to grow at CLE, Allegiant has left and Breeze hasnt started service in CLE. Less competition at the airport to garner more customers for more routes.
February 27, 20232 yr On 2/24/2023 at 9:19 AM, savadams13 said: CVG based here and based on Frontier retracting heavily from Cincinnati, id say CLE for the new crew base. It makes sense for Frontier to grow at CLE, Allegiant has left and Breeze hasnt started service in CLE. Less competition at the airport to garner more customers for more routes. I don't know how this contest, if it really is one, will come out, but the latest statistics from Frontier say CLE is their ninth largest station and ALL of the larger stations (plus Miami, a smaller station) are crew domiciles. Green highlighted cities plus Dallas (as of May, 2023) are domiciles. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
February 27, 20232 yr Some Infrastructure Bill money for the Red Line tunnel to Hopkins terminal: https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/biden-harris-administration-announces-nearly-1b-bipartisan-infrastructure-law-airport Considering the total of grants, I’d hope CLE Hopkins is getting more than this, but this one the only thing I saw called out: “$1.6 million to Cleveland Hopkins International Airport in Cleveland, Ohio: This award helps fund a project to rehabilitate and resurface approximately 2,100 feet of the public transportation tunnel membrane from downtown Cleveland to the Airport terminal building. The work includes rehabilitating wall surfaces, replacing the tunnel ceiling and waterproof membrane in the tunnel tramway, structural repairs and installation of a new drainage system. Cleveland Hopkins is also receiving a second grant of $1.6 million to renovate 13 airport terminal restrooms to meet ADA requirements.” When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 27, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Some Infrastructure Bill money for the Red Line tunnel to Hopkins terminal: https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/biden-harris-administration-announces-nearly-1b-bipartisan-infrastructure-law-airport Considering the total of grants, I’d hope CLE Hopkins is getting more than this, but this one the only thing I saw called out: “$1.6 million to Cleveland Hopkins International Airport in Cleveland, Ohio: This award helps fund a project to rehabilitate and resurface approximately 2,100 feet of the public transportation tunnel membrane from downtown Cleveland to the Airport terminal building. The work includes rehabilitating wall surfaces, replacing the tunnel ceiling and waterproof membrane in the tunnel tramway, structural repairs and installation of a new drainage system. Cleveland Hopkins is also receiving a second grant of $1.6 million to renovate 13 airport terminal restrooms to meet ADA requirements.” Crazy that the RTA tunnel is only getting the same amount that 13 restrooms are getting!
February 27, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Cleburger said: Crazy that the RTA tunnel is only getting the same amount that 13 restrooms are getting! The restrooms have received more complaints. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
February 28, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, Dougal said: I don't know how this contest, if it really is one, will come out, but the latest statistics from Frontier say CLE is their ninth largest station and ALL of the larger stations (plus Miami, a smaller station) are crew domiciles. Green highlighted cities plus Dallas (as of May, 2023) are domiciles. I notice right off the bat that this past fall was when Frontier starting retracting from CVG and based off this chart that is true.
February 28, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, savadams13 said: I notice right off the bat that this past fall was when Frontier starting retracting from CVG and based off this chart that is true. The release of Frontier's summer schedule could tell the tale. If either CVG or CLE sees a significant bump, that will be Frontier's domicile choice. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
March 3, 20232 yr Some more info on restroom renovations. https://www.cleveland.com/travel/2023/03/relief-is-coming-cleveland-hopkins-airport-bathrooms-slated-for-2-million-in-improvements.html
March 3, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: Some more info on restroom renovations. https://www.cleveland.com/travel/2023/03/relief-is-coming-cleveland-hopkins-airport-bathrooms-slated-for-2-million-in-improvements.html So, they are going to renovate restrooms in concourses that may be demolished and rebuilt in a 3-5 years?
March 3, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, dski44 said: So, they are going to renovate restrooms in concourses that may be demolished and rebuilt in a 3-5 years? Hey - I had my sidewalks torn out and repaved 6 times in 5 months last summer, so it's possible. Peak Cleveland city govt.
March 3, 20232 yr 20 minutes ago, dski44 said: So, they are going to renovate restrooms in concourses that may be demolished and rebuilt in a 3-5 years? This happens way more often than you think it does, and not just in city/county/federal facilities, they just don't usually put out press releases saying that they're doing exactly that. Edit: I did think I saw in another press release that at least part of this was going to fix ADA compliance issues, and if that's the case it's way cheaper to fix those issues than to let it ride until you tear it down and risk an ADA lawsuit. Edited March 3, 20232 yr by CLEeng
March 3, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, YABO713 said: Hey - I had my sidewalks torn out and repaved 6 times in 5 months last summer, so it's possible. Peak Cleveland city govt. On a related note, in my Edgewater the city installed the ADA compliant ramps on the sidewalks which is great. The only problem is many of the sidewalks themselves are impassable for wheelchairs due to old sandstone shifting. I guess this is use-it-or-lose it fed money, so the CLE bathrooms must be elevated!
March 3, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, dski44 said: So, they are going to renovate restrooms in concourses that may be demolished and rebuilt in a 3-5 years? That's what I was wondering. But apparently, they are just doing minor renovations.
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