That was also posted at the GCRTA thread.

That was also posted at the GCRTA thread.

 

I thought it might have been...yank it then.

Nah, it's OK to have things cross-posted as long as a transit discussion doesn't happen in an airport thread!

Hopkins slated for 300-foot-high control tower in 2012

300-foot-high control facility to be on south side

 

Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Michael Sangiacomo

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

A larger, and possibly taller, control tower will begin to rise at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport late next year to give controllers a better view of the extended runways and the ability to handle more flights.

 

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:

 

[email protected], 216-999-4890

 

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/121973959923310.xml&coll=2&thispage=2

I know there are quite a few airline industry experts on these boards, so I'll just post my question here rather than starting a new thread...

 

What are the odds that Cleveland gets direct flights to the Portland or Seattle anytime soon?  You'd think that Continental would route some of their traffic from these cities though Cleveland, rather than Houston and Newark.

I know there are quite a few airline industry experts on these boards, so I'll just post my question here rather than starting a new thread...

 

What are the odds that Cleveland gets direct flights to the Portland or Seattle anytime soon?  You'd think that Continental would route some of their traffic from these cities though Cleveland, rather than Houston and Newark.

 

WE already have non stop flights to Seattle (I can't remember if its year round or seasonal but I've been on it)

 

Portland?  Who knows, Airline revenue mgmt is a strange beast.

I know there are quite a few airline industry experts on these boards, so I'll just post my question here rather than starting a new thread...

 

What are the odds that Cleveland gets direct flights to the Portland or Seattle anytime soon? You'd think that Continental would route some of their traffic from these cities though Cleveland, rather than Houston and Newark.

 

WE already have non stop flights to Seattle (I can't remember if its year round or seasonal but I've been on it)

 

Portland? Who knows, Airline revenue mgmt is a strange beast.

 

It must be seasonal.  One of my friends is going to a wedding there in October and couldn't get a direct flight.

Continental drops some London routes but says Cleveland's flight will continue

Posted by rroguski September 09, 2008 11:51AM

 

Continental Airlines will stop flying from its hubs in Newark and Houston to Gatwick Airport outside London next month. But the airline said it has no plans to end seasonal service from Cleveland to Gatwick.

 

Continental announced the Gatwick changes Tuesday in connection with news that it plans a third daily nonstop flight between Newark and London's Heathrow Airport. Continental already has two daily flights to Heathrow from Newark and two from Houston.

 

The changes take effect Oct. 25, subject to government and airport approval.

 

Heathrow, 15 miles west of central London, is the world's busiest airport for international flights. Gatwick is considered less convenient for business travelers or leisure travelers looking to make connections to other cities in Europe and Asia.

 

A Continental spokeswoman in Houston said the carrier intends to resume its seasonal service to Gatwick from Cleveland next spring. It began those direct flights in 1999.

 

Hopkins needs to do more to market the Gatwick option to business travelers, Smith said. At the same time, he expressed interest in pursuing a Cleveland-to-Heathrow route and said the airport was preparing a case to present to Continental.

 

Restrictions on landing rights at Heathrow barred Continental from that market until an "Open Skies" agreement between the United States and Europe took effect this spring. A Continental flight from Newark to Heathrow was the first to touch down under the international aviation treaty.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/09/continental_drops_some_london.html

Hopkins airport has plans for 'smarter' parking

by Henry J. Gomez

Thursday September 11, 2008, 5:28 PM

Cleveland Hopkins International Airport

 

The director of Cleveland Hopkins International Airport hopes to launch an improved parking system next year that alerts people to empty spaces before entering a jam-packed garage.

 

So-called smart-parking technology -- used in airports in Baltimore and Jacksonville, Fla. -- employs sensors in the pavement to detect whether parking spaces are open.

 

The sensors relay the information to signs that show drivers the number of parking spaces available at each level and in each row. At Baltimore/Washington International, green and red lights over each space indicate whether the spot is open or occupied.

 

In a recent interview, Cleveland airport Director Ricky Smith said the timing is right to incorporate that technology at Hopkins. The airport's parking contract, held by the same company for more than three decades, expires next spring.

 

This year, fees from the airport's two parking decks and adjacent surface lots are expected to generate about $18 million for the city-run airport, but Smith said he will look for a better deal.

 

 

 

http://www.cleveland.com/realtimenews/index.ssf/2008/09/hopkins_airport_has_plans_for.html

Smart parking at JAX is pretty sweet. It makes parking so much easier! I'm surprised it hasn't caught on around the country faster!

I know there are quite a few airline industry experts on these boards, so I'll just post my question here rather than starting a new thread...

 

What are the odds that Cleveland gets direct flights to the Portland or Seattle anytime soon?  You'd think that Continental would route some of their traffic from these cities though Cleveland, rather than Houston and Newark.

 

WE already have non stop flights to Seattle (I can't remember if its year round or seasonal but I've been on it)

 

Portland?  Who knows, Airline revenue mgmt is a strange beast.

 

It must be seasonal.  One of my friends is going to a wedding there in October and couldn't get a direct flight.

 

Seattle was year-round, but they are dropping it for this winter.

 

As for Portland, not only dosen't Cleveland have service, but Delta is pulling it out of Cincinnati as well this fall. So only Detroit, regionally, will have direct service to PDX.

 

I guess yields are fairly low. San Diego never does seem to do well either from the Great Lakes area either.

HMSHost to lay off nearly 300 workers at Cleveland Hopkins

By DAN SHINGLER

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20081117/FREE/811179960/1022

3:10 pm, November 17, 2008

 

HMSHost, the company formerly known as Host Marriott Services, is laying off nearly 300 workers at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport.

 

The company notified the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services Nov. 10 that it plans to let go 291 employees at the airport. That figure includes 23 salaried workers and 268 hourly employees.

 

Are they laying off EVERYONE?

A new management company is taking over.  Remember?

Are they laying off EVERYONE?

 

That's what I was thinking - I didn't even know they had that many employees!

 

EDIT:  Whatever happened to BAA taking over?  Why do we still have HMSHost?

I think this could be a combination of bad reporting and fact checking?

 

Unless, HMS had employees that worked in support roles and those employees were need to work on the transition?

 

There isn't much information in that blurb.

I think this could be a combination of bad reporting and fact checking?

 

Unless, HMS had employees that worked in support roles and those employees were need to work on the transition?

 

There isn't much information in that blurb.

 

Yeah, I was really disappointed with that blurb, I usually expect more from Crains.  HMS is simply doing what they said they did when Hopkins announced there deal with BAA.  They are getting kicked out, so they will no longer being employing anybody at CLE....logical, no?  And at the time of the announcement, BAA stated that they would attempt to rehire as many HMS employees as possible...also logical.  Why Crains omitted this is perplexing, heaven forbid they're adopting the editorial style of the PeeDee!

On a lighter note, there were 3 UAE jets at Hopkins on Saturday.  2 747s and one 737 Business Jet.  One 747 was parked off to the side near the large hangar at A  concourse and the other 2 jets were parked at the Concourse A int'l gates.  It looked so cool!  For a minute, especially if you were on a layover at CLE, you'd have thought we were a hub for some Middle Eastern airline!  I was driving down 71 to Wooster when I looked over and almost crashed!!!

 

http://www.opshots.net/ 

 

check out this site for cool photos!

On a lighter note, there were 3 UAE jets at Hopkins on Saturday.  2 747s and one 737 Business Jet.  One 747 was parked off to the side near the large hangar at A  concourse and the other 2 jets were parked at the Concourse A int'l gates.  It looked so cool!  For a minute, especially if you were on a layover at CLE, you'd have thought we were a hub for some Middle Eastern airline!  I was driving down 71 to Wooster when I looked over and almost crashed!!!

 

http://www.opshots.net/ 

 

check out this site for cool photos!

 

Very cool!  Too bad the regional jets are breeding over by the IX center.  First there were three, then 7 now about 15 or so.

Yea, this is the money-shot!  Two UAE 744 and a BBJ in one frame...at CLE, haha.  I saw one of the 744s parked next to A Concourse and the two UAE BBJs over near Air Services when I was flying to DC last week.  It's amazing how the 744 dwarfs the terminal.  I can't imagine what is was like seeing two of them parked together like that at CLE, you really can't get a sense of their true size in pictures.

 

 

EDIT:  Definitely want to credit Chuck Slusarczyk Jr. at www.opshots.net for this great picture.

^Does anyone know what they were in doing in Cleveland?

Someone must have been really sick?  Although I read somewhere that they headed off to DC afterwards for a conference? 

 

Nonetheless unreal pic!

 

 

^ The entire UAE Royal family recieves medical care from the Cleveland Clinic.  My nieghbor who is a cardiologist has taken care of the Shieks for over a decade... one time he came back from Dubai and was given uncut diamonds for his service... nice tip!  Interesting note: prior to the construction of the Intercontinental Hotel the Cleveland Clinic had a semi-secret residence for the shieks in one of the clinic buildings called G-17, now that the intercontinental is there I think they just rent all of the presidential suites etc.

^It's actually G-71 (seventh floor of the G building), known as the Founders Suites, and mentioned on their website.  At the old Omni Hotel, one of the floors was all-luxury suites for all the VIP entourages (think it was the 5th floor "International Center"):

 

http://my.clevelandclinic.org/transplant/about/faq.aspx

 

What kind of hospital rooms are available?

May I request a specific room beforehand?

 

The Cleveland Clinic Hospital has semi-private and private rooms. For some patients, we also offer the Founders Suites (G71), which are elegant suites with their own food service. There is an extra charge for a private room or one of the Founders Suites. We make every effort during admission to provide you with the type of room you desire. However, it is not possible to guarantee a specific accommodation beforehand, because room assignment is based on availability on the day of admission.

 

 

Off-topic, but what the heck - if anyone is familar with Dubai and Sheikh Zayed Road, the main drag where the bazillions of new highrises have been built - that's named after the patriarch of the family that FerrariEnzo mentioned. 

Your oil dollars at work....

 

"Keep on driving, America" -- Middle Eastern royal families.

Off-topic, but what the heck - if anyone is familar with Dubai and Sheikh Zayed Road, the main drag where the bazillions of new highrises have been built - that's named after the patriarch of the family that FerrariEnzo mentioned.

 

 

Well they are right now in a financial crunch big time,its going to look like a deserted relic of oil age in a couple years.

Yes they were at the I-con for a few days. Due to company rules I'm *really* not supposed to talk about it, but they were a fun bunch.

Yes they were at the I-con for a few days. Due to company rules I'm *really* not supposed to talk about it, but they were a fun bunch.

 

I bet they are good tippers!

I see they still haven't gotten rid of the "We put the CLE in Clean" campaign at the airport..

I see they still haven't gotten rid of the "We put the CLE in Clean" campaign at the airport..

 

That thing will never go away, I am convinced.  Same with the "CLE - Going Places" motto.

Quote: Well they are right now in a financial crunch big time,its going to look like a deserted relic of oil age in a couple years.

 

Don't be to sure!  For one we are a LONG way from energy dependance and to be sure the Shiekdoms know what is coming and that is why they are building their economy to include tourism, finance, sporting complexes etc.  It will be interesting to see how they fair post oil.

From cleveland.com:

 

Continental cancels direct Cleveland/Paris flight

Posted by kkroll December 23, 2008 12:36PM

 

Continental Airlines will end its seasonal service from Cleveland to Paris/Charles de Gaulle Airport, the company said in a news release on Wednesday. The service was started in May.

 

Continental Airlines also announced that it will launch seasonal daily non-stop service between its Cleveland hub and London's Heathrow Airport, effective May 2, 2009 (eastbound). The new route will replace the current seasonal service between Cleveland and London/Gatwick Airport that started in 1999.

 

More at cleveland.com http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/12/continental_cancels_direct_cle.html

 

RATS!  :|

Did anyone ever happen to notice if they made gate announcements in French at CLE? French is not a language you hear much in this town and it would make me warm and fuzzy to have heard it in CLE.  I wanted to walk by the gate at boarding but it never worked out this summer. 

What was the reason for the canceling of this flight? I guess it wasn't a moneymaker, but the article isn't really clear..

What was the reason for the canceling of this flight? I guess it wasn't a moneymaker, but the article isn't really clear..

 

My sources say it wasn't a failing flight but folks in Cleveland fly to London, Berlin, Frankfort, Dublin and Israel more than Paris.  The flight had more connections than Originating traffic.

Continental ends Cleveland-to-Paris flight

By JAY MILLER

1:13 pm, December 23, 2008

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20081223/FREE/812239956/1022

 

Continental Airlines said Tuesday that it will discontinue its seasonal summer service between Cleveland and Paris but will upgrade its service to London with flights to that city’s Heathrow Airport.

 

The Paris service launched May 22 with much fanfare and ran daily through Sept. 2. Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson and a group of city officials were on that inaugural flight. He spent his time in Paris marketing the city to French political and business leaders.

 

The airline said in a news release that the cancellation of the service to Paris’s Charles de Gaulle Airport was “due to economic challenges.”

 

Ricky Smith, Cleveland’s director of port control and director of the city airport system, said the city was disappointed Continental was dropping the Paris service.

 

In past years, Continental offered seasonal service between Cleveland and London’s Gatwick Airport but the airline has decided to focus on Heathrow because it is closer to the center of London and offers better connections to elsewhere in Europe. The airline in September said it was shifting flights from its Houston and Newark hubs to Heathrow but intended to continue flying from Cleveland to Gatwick.

 

If part of the impetus for the CLE-CDG nonstop was "having hubs at both ends" which was stated in one of the original press releases, then the pending departure of CO from Skyteam would certainly impact that incentive, so even if the flight did OK financially in 2008, continued success would be affected by the alliance switch.  At any rate it is a loss for Cleveland.  We can always drive to Pittsburgh,  lol :x

If part of the impetus for the CLE-CDG nonstop was "having hubs at both ends" which was stated in one of the original press releases, then the pending departure of CO from Skyteam would certainly impact that incentive, so even if the flight did OK financially in 2008, continued success would be affected by the alliance switch.  At any rate it is a loss for Cleveland.  We can always drive to Pittsburgh,  lol :x

 

I totally forgot about the skyteam swith.  I suspect we'll have better connectons to the west coast and reevaluate european destinations.

 

Newark will have to cut flights and they can move flights to Cleveland without cutting capacity and more people would prefer to transfer in Cleveland than newark.  When we join star alliance I suspect some connecting flights will move as both newark and ohare are congested.

There was also the reduction in regional feed due to the rather sharp cuts CO made in CLE last September, which would mean fewer connecting passengers to CDG.  Plus, I obliquely referenced the new Delta flight from Pittsburgh to Paris in my earlier post.  That may have entered CO's thought process.  I am actually impressed they are doing the LHR thing from CLE.  :clap:

There was also the reduction in regional feed due to the rather sharp cuts CO made in CLE last September, which would mean fewer connecting passengers to CDG.  Plus, I obliquely referenced the new Delta flight from Pittsburgh to Paris in my earlier post.  That may have entered CO's thought process.  I am actually impressed they are doing the LHR thing from CLE.  :clap:

 

You and me both.  I can go directly from Cleveland now!

Cleveland assembles business leaders to advise on airport operations

Posted by Henry J. Gomez/Plain Dealer Reporter January 08, 2009 12:22PM

Categories: Breaking News, Cleveland City Hall, Inside City Hall, Real Time News

 

Mayor Frank Jackson has tapped the private sector for advice on how to operate the city-run Cleveland Hopkins International and Burke Lakefront airports.

 

More at cleveland.com

Cleveland assembles business leaders to advise on airport operations

Posted by Henry J. Gomez/Plain Dealer Reporter January 08, 2009 12:22PM

Categories: Breaking News, Cleveland City Hall, Inside City Hall, Real Time News

 

Mayor Frank Jackson has tapped the private sector for advice on how to operate the city-run Cleveland Hopkins International and Burke Lakefront airports.

 

 

Yet in still, they include no FREQUENT flyers.  Those are the people he needs to have on this committee.  Those who know the "ins and outs" of travel and have been to numerous airports.  They can provide a wonder "end user" position to the committe.

 

I would include two people who don't travel because they hate to deal with airports.  The customer you're trying to win over is important to making your project a success.

 

Also, there needs to be representation by RTA. 

Yet in still, they include no FREQUENT flyers. Those are the people he needs to have on this committee. Those who know the "ins and outs" of travel and have been to numerous airports. They can provide a wonder "end user" position to the committe.

 

I would include two people who don't travel because they hate to deal with airports. The customer you're trying to win over is important to making your project a success.

 

Also, there needs to be representation by RTA.

 

I agree. But I think that consulting with a task force of people from the business community can help spur operations to improve business in the community at large. I think, in that way, this could end up being hugely beneficial.

Yet in still, they include no FREQUENT flyers.  Those are the people he needs to have on this committee.  Those who know the "ins and outs" of travel and have been to numerous airports.  They can provide a wonder "end user" position to the committe.

 

I would include two people who don't travel because they hate to deal with airports.  The customer you're trying to win over is important to making your project a success.

 

Also, there needs to be representation by RTA. 

 

I agree. But I think that consulting with a task force of people from the business community can help spur operations to improve business in the community at large. I think, in that way, this could end up being hugely beneficial.

 

Are they airport officiandos?  Related to the air industry in any way?  Stop with the ridiculous committees that have no knowledge of the industry.

 

If that is his way of thinking then we're stuck in 1980!  Business travelers are not the only travelers we want to fly in.  We need leisure travelers as well.

 

There is not one person from a travel related field on this committee.

Yet in still, they include no FREQUENT flyers. Those are the people he needs to have on this committee. Those who know the "ins and outs" of travel and have been to numerous airports. They can provide a wonder "end user" position to the committe.

 

I would include two people who don't travel because they hate to deal with airports. The customer you're trying to win over is important to making your project a success.

 

Also, there needs to be representation by RTA.

 

I agree. But I think that consulting with a task force of people from the business community can help spur operations to improve business in the community at large. I think, in that way, this could end up being hugely beneficial.

 

Are they airport officiandos? Related to the air industry in any way? Stop with the ridiculous committees that have no knowledge of the industry.

 

If that is his way of thinking then we're stuck in 1980! Business travelers are not the only travelers we want to fly in. We need leisure travelers as well.

 

There is not one person from a travel related field on this committee.

 

And what have YOU done about this MTS.  Have you written the mayor or the airport director to suggest this.  :wink:

And what have YOU done about this MTS.  Have you written the mayor or the airport director to suggest this.  ;)

 

I'm all over it Blanche!  LOL

 

Ironically, the airport director isn't on the committee, but Fred Nance is.  Asinine!

 

And what have YOU done about this MTS.  Have you written the mayor or the airport director to suggest this.  :wink:

 

that one was like playing tee ball. :lol: