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By JAY MILLER

11:56 am, May 1, 2009

 

The first-ever air service between Cleveland and London’s Heathrow Airport begins Saturday.

 

Continental Airlines said its daily seven-hour, 50-minute flights will depart Cleveland Hopkins International Airport at 8:25 p.m. and arrive in London the next morning at 9:15. The return flight, which takes an hour longer, leaves London at 11:40 a.m. and arrives back in Cleveland at 3:30 p.m. the same day.

 

The lowest available one-way fare available for a mid-May flight was $358, excluding taxes and fees.

 

The seasonal, new Heathrow direct service will operate from May 2 through Sept. 26. The Heathrow flights offer better connections to other European cities than did the service to London’s Gatwick Airport it replaces.

 

Last May, Continental inaugurated seasonal, direct flights from Cleveland to Paris but cancelled the route in September due to “economic challenges.”

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Will someone please explain to me this aversion to single-aisle planes on transatlantic routes (as exhibited once-again in the comments of this article)?  Is this just Cleveland snobbery, or Cleveland pessimism?

 

I've flown both single-aisle and twin-aisle to London and honestly, there's very little difference besides the visual impact of being on a much larger plane.  And it's not as if the flight is that long.  14.5 hours to Beijing is one thing, but I've done the 6-7 hour flight to London without even moving from my seat!  And even the economy seats in the 757 are a step from what you get in a 737 (and I believe even the TATL 767 as well)...more pitch and the seat cushions do a cool slide forward when you recline. 

 

 

Cleveland flights to Heathrow Airport in London to begin Saturday

by Alison Grant/Plain Dealer Reporter

Friday May 01, 2009, 12:04 PM

 

CLEVELAND -- Continental Airlines' inaugural flight from Cleveland to London's Heathrow Airport is scheduled to depart Cleveland Hopkins International Airport at 8:35 p.m. Saturday, arriving in London at 9:15 a.m. Sunday.

 

The return flight departs London at 11:40 a.m. Sunday and arrives in Cleveland at 3:30 p.m. the same day.

 

The seasonal daily nonstop service replaces Continental's previous seasonal service between Cleveland and Gatwick Airport, which is farther from central London and has fewer connecting flights to other destinations.

 

"The new flights give Cleveland travelers convenient access to Europe's most popular gateway airport for U.S. travelers," Jim Compton, Continental's executive vice president of marketing, said in a statement. "In addition to serving London, Heathrow will provide both business and leisure travelers numerous connections to cities in Europe, the Middle East and Africa."

 

Continental said in December it would not resume spring and summer nonstop flights between Cleveland and Paris that the carrier launched last year. The airline said the decision was a cost-cutting move to improve corporate profitability, but declined to say whether bookings were slack. However, Hopkins Director Ricky Smith said at the time that the Paris service was "always a challenge."

 

Flights to Heathrow from Cleveland will operate through Saturday, Sept. 26, with the last flight returning from London the next day. Continental is using a Boeing 757 jet that seats 16 passengers in the first-class business section and 159 passengers in economy.

 

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/05/plain_dealer_filethe_clock_tow.html

Will someone please explain to me this aversion to single-aisle planes on transatlantic routes (as exhibited once-again in the comments of this article)?  Is this just Cleveland snobbery, or Cleveland pessimism?

 

I've flown both single-aisle and twin-aisle to London and honestly, there's very little difference besides the visual the impact of being on a much larger plane.  And it's not as if the flight is that long.  14.5 hours to Beijing is one thing, but I've done the 6-7 hour flight to London without even moving from my seat!  And even the economy seats in the 757 are a step from what you get in a 737 (and i believe even the TATL 767 as well)...more pitch and the seat cushions do a cool slide forward when you recline. 

 

No it's cost efficienciy.  The 757-200 series planes are very different than the 757-300 planes.

 

Prior to 911 the 757 series planes (regardless) of carrier, would fly NYC to LAX/SFO/SEA routes and overnight.

 

Airlines have updated their models and aircraft utilization so they use the 757-200 planes to fly to high yield secondary routes to Europe then back to a hub in the statses, then turn to do a short run and back to a hub for an evening flight back to Europe.  (example:  CLE-LHR-CLE refuel/cater then fly CLE-MCO-CLE refuel/recater to LHR departure.)

 

There is very little difference (in economy capacity) between the 757-200 & the 767-200.  The 757-200 has 10 more economy seats than the 767-200.  However, the 767-200 has 8 J class (business first) seats than the 757-200.

 

Now having said that, if the Cleveland Market could support a 767-300 at J pricing the plane would already be here.  I dont think individuals or company's are buying those Business First seats.

 

The economy seats on a 757 & a 737 models are exactly the same.  The width of the 767 seats is different. as it has one extra inch of width.

 

Seriously, why fly a larger plane that cannot be filled, just to fly it?  That plane could be used on a route where they can fill the plane.

Seriously, why fly a larger plane that cannot be filled, just to fly it? That plane could be used on a route where they can fill the plane.

 

Makes sense to me.

Will someone please explain to me this aversion to single-aisle planes on transatlantic routes (as exhibited once-again in the comments of this article)? Is this just Cleveland snobbery, or Cleveland pessimism?

 

I've flown both single-aisle and twin-aisle to London and honestly, there's very little difference besides the visual the impact of being on a much larger plane. And it's not as if the flight is that long. 14.5 hours to Beijing is one thing, but I've done the 6-7 hour flight to London without even moving from my seat! And even the economy seats in the 757 are a step from what you get in a 737 (and i believe even the TATL 767 as well)...more pitch and the seat cushions do a cool slide forward when you recline.

 

No it's cost efficienciy. The 757-200 series planes are very different than the 757-300 planes.

 

Prior to 911 the 757 series planes (regardless) of carrier, would fly NYC to LAX/SFO/SEA routes and overnight.

 

Airlines have updated their models and aircraft utilization so they use the 757-200 planes to fly to high yield secondary routes to Europe then back to a hub in the statses, then turn to do a short run and back to a hub for an evening flight back to Europe. (example: CLE-LHR-CLE refuel/cater then fly CLE-MCO-CLE refuel/recater to LHR departure.)

 

There is very little difference (in economy capacity) between the 757-200 & the 767-200. The 757-200 has 10 more economy seats than the 767-200. However, the 767-200 has 8 J class (business first) seats than the 757-200.

 

Now having said that, if the Cleveland Market could support a 767-300 at J pricing the plane would already be here. I dont think individuals or company's are buying those Business First seats.

 

The economy seats on a 757 & a 737 models are exactly the same. The width of the 767 seats is different. as it has one extra inch of width.

 

Seriously, why fly a larger plane that cannot be filled, just to fly it? That plane could be used on a route where they can fill the plane.

 

I'm not disputing cost argument and the rationalization for using 757s, we're on the same page MTS.  What I'm referring to is what seems to be the public perception to this equipment choice.  Like comments by the usual suspects on cleveland.bomb like this one:

 

"Posted by mlnem4s on 05/01/09 at 1:28PM

 

I will never fly a long-haul flight across the Atlantic on a single aisle jet. It is great to have the service in Cleveland but I don't think it iwll achieve its full potential until Continental uses the correct size aircraft to fly such a long distance."

 

Why is there this public perception that single-aisle in not "the correct size aircraft"? 

 

And while I stand corrected on the seat dimensions being different between 737 & 757, the seat bottoms on the 757 economy seat do most definitely slide forward when reclined, which makes a surprising difference in comfort compared to the 737 economy seat.

Will someone please explain to me this aversion to single-aisle planes on transatlantic routes (as exhibited once-again in the comments of this article)?  Is this just Cleveland snobbery, or Cleveland pessimism?

 

I've flown both single-aisle and twin-aisle to London and honestly, there's very little difference besides the visual the impact of being on a much larger plane.  And it's not as if the flight is that long.  14.5 hours to Beijing is one thing, but I've done the 6-7 hour flight to London without even moving from my seat!  And even the economy seats in the 757 are a step from what you get in a 737 (and i believe even the TATL 767 as well)...more pitch and the seat cushions do a cool slide forward when you recline. 

 

No it's cost efficienciy.  The 757-200 series planes are very different than the 757-300 planes.

 

Prior to 911 the 757 series planes (regardless) of carrier, would fly NYC to LAX/SFO/SEA routes and overnight.

 

Airlines have updated their models and aircraft utilization so they use the 757-200 planes to fly to high yield secondary routes to Europe then back to a hub in the States, then turn to do a short run and back to a hub for an evening flight back to Europe.  (example:  CLE-LHR-CLE refuel/cater then fly CLE-MCO-CLE refuel/re cater to LHR departure.)

 

There is very little difference (in economy capacity) between the 757-200 & the 767-200.  The 757-200 has 10 more economy seats than the 767-200.  However, the 767-200 has 8 J class (business first) seats than the 757-200.

 

Now having said that, if the Cleveland Market could support a 767-300 at J pricing the plane would already be here.  I dont think individuals or company's are buying those Business First seats.

 

The economy seats on a 757 & a 737 models are exactly the same.  The width of the 767 seats is different. as it has one extra inch of width.

 

Seriously, why fly a larger plane that cannot be filled, just to fly it?  That plane could be used on a route where they can fill the plane.

 

I'm not disputing cost argument and the rationalization for using 757s, we're on the same page MTS.  What I'm referring to is what seems to be the public perception to this equipment choice.  Like comments by the usual suspects on Cleveland.bomb like this one:

 

"Posted by mlnem4s on 05/01/09 at 1:28PM

 

I will never fly a long-haul flight across the Atlantic on a single aisle jet. It is great to have the service in Cleveland but I don't think it will achieve its full potential until Continental uses the correct size aircraft to fly such a long distance."

 

Why is there this public perception that single-aisle in not "the correct size aircraft"? 

 

And while I stand corrected on the seat dimensions being different between 737 & 757, the seat bottoms on the 757 economy seat do most definitely slide forward when reclined, which makes a surprising difference in comfort compared to the 737 economy seat.

 

Most people don't fly enough to know the difference, but what he is saying is no different than what people in other cities are saying.

 

When airlines realized they couldn't compete with SW domestically, they took larger aircraft and positioned them to fly to secondary international destinations.  Then the 737-800 & 900 planes were put on trans con routes.  That hurt airlines except American and United who contined to use 767 on the JFK - LAX/SFO routes.  Although now, those airlines now use THREE class 757 or 767 on those routes.

 

The perception is just that.  I've flown to Europe on the 757 and haven't had a problem.  The only real difference is the over head bin space.  I think the FAs are more attentive to Customers on the 757 vs 767 (especially if its a newark based crew).

 

Again, for those complaining, that exactly why they use a 757.  Ticket sales not perception dictates what type of aircraft is used.  I wonder if that poster flies enough to know there is not difference.  Most likely not.  the 757s are ETOPS certified just like the 767s.  If you look at most airlines  they have 757s going to London, Paris, Portugal, Dublin, etc.

 

It's not a dis to Cleveland.

 

Once the 787 comes on line, I expect Cleveland to get more international service and have some 767 repositioned as Newark is clogged.

Will someone please explain to me this aversion to single-aisle planes on transatlantic routes (as exhibited once-again in the comments of this article)?  Is this just Cleveland snobbery, or Cleveland pessimism?

 

I've flown both single-aisle and twin-aisle to London and honestly, there's very little difference besides the visual the impact of being on a much larger plane.  And it's not as if the flight is that long.  14.5 hours to Beijing is one thing, but I've done the 6-7 hour flight to London without even moving from my seat!  And even the economy seats in the 757 are a step from what you get in a 737 (and i believe even the TATL 767 as well)...more pitch and the seat cushions do a cool slide forward when you recline. 

 

No it's cost efficienciy.  The 757-200 series planes are very different than the 757-300 planes.

 

Prior to 911 the 757 series planes (regardless) of carrier, would fly NYC to LAX/SFO/SEA routes and overnight.

 

Airlines have updated their models and aircraft utilization so they use the 757-200 planes to fly to high yield secondary routes to Europe then back to a hub in the States, then turn to do a short run and back to a hub for an evening flight back to Europe.  (example:  CLE-LHR-CLE refuel/cater then fly CLE-MCO-CLE refuel/re cater to LHR departure.)

 

There is very little difference (in economy capacity) between the 757-200 & the 767-200.  The 757-200 has 10 more economy seats than the 767-200.  However, the 767-200 has 8 J class (business first) seats than the 757-200.

 

Now having said that, if the Cleveland Market could support a 767-300 at J pricing the plane would already be here.  I dont think individuals or company's are buying those Business First seats.

 

The economy seats on a 757 & a 737 models are exactly the same.  The width of the 767 seats is different. as it has one extra inch of width.

 

Seriously, why fly a larger plane that cannot be filled, just to fly it?  That plane could be used on a route where they can fill the plane.

 

I'm not disputing cost argument and the rationalization for using 757s, we're on the same page MTS.  What I'm referring to is what seems to be the public perception to this equipment choice.  Like comments by the usual suspects on Cleveland.bomb like this one:

 

"Posted by mlnem4s on 05/01/09 at 1:28PM

 

I will never fly a long-haul flight across the Atlantic on a single aisle jet. It is great to have the service in Cleveland but I don't think it will achieve its full potential until Continental uses the correct size aircraft to fly such a long distance."

 

Why is there this public perception that single-aisle in not "the correct size aircraft"? 

 

And while I stand corrected on the seat dimensions being different between 737 & 757, the seat bottoms on the 757 economy seat do most definitely slide forward when reclined, which makes a surprising difference in comfort compared to the 737 economy seat.

 

Most people don't fly enough to know the difference, but what he is saying is no different than what people in other cities are saying.

 

When airlines realized they couldn't compete with SW domestically, they took larger aircraft and positioned them to fly to secondary international destinations.  Then the 737-800 & 900 planes were put on trans con routes.  That hurt airlines except American and United who contined to use 767 on the JFK - LAX/SFO routes.  Although now, those airlines now use THREE class 757 or 767 on those routes.

 

The perception is just that.  I've flown to Europe on the 757 and haven't had a problem.  The only real difference is the over head bin space.  I think the FAs are more attentive to Customers on the 757 vs 767 (especially if its a newark based crew).

 

Again, for those complaining, that exactly why they use a 757.  Ticket sales not perception dictates what type of aircraft is used.  I wonder if that poster flies enough to know there is not difference.  Most likely not.  the 757s are ETOPS certified just like the 767s.  If you look at most airlines  they have 757s going to London, Paris, Portugal, Dublin, etc.

 

It's not a dis to Cleveland.

 

Once the 787 comes on line, I expect Cleveland to get more international service and have some 767 repositioned as Newark is clogged.

 

Hear hear. And the FA to passenger ratio is indeed better on the 757 than on a twin-aisle.  Re: 767s and reallocation....well we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed, as I fear it'll be dependent upon how OneWorld and the AA alliance shakes out. 

Is the food/retail expansion/renovation going to include a duty-free shop?  Granted right now we only need a kiosk but if we have little shop, perhaps it would help in solidifying a year-round transatlantic 757 route?  I'm sure more is taken into consideration that whether or not airports have duty-free when assigning routes, but as a hub, maybe we'll be taken more seriously with better amenities to serve as a legit alternative to EWR and IAH.

Hear hear. And the FA to passenger ratio is indeed better on the 757 than on a twin-aisle.  Re: 767s and reallocation....well we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed, as I fear it'll be dependent upon how OneWorld and the AA alliance shakes out. 

 

Ummm...You mean United and Star Alliance.  Lord....You sound like the folks on cleveland.bomb.  LOL  ;)

 

Actually I'm happy about this.  I have Global Service on United and Platinum on Continental.  I just fear that because were inbetween NYC and CHI we'll get screwed on international expansion, however, both of those airports are clogged, so hopefully Mr. Smith is working a way to bring some flight here.

Hear hear. And the FA to passenger ratio is indeed better on the 757 than on a twin-aisle.  Re: 767s and reallocation....well we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed, as I fear it'll be dependent upon how OneWorld and the AA alliance shakes out. 

 

Ummm...You mean United and Star Alliance.  Lord....You sound like the folks on cleveland.bomb.  LOL  ;)

 

Actually I'm happy about this.  I have Global Service on United and Platinum on Continental.  I just fear that because were inbetween NYC and CHI we'll get screwed on international expansion, however, both of those airports are clogged, so hopefully Mr. Smith is working a way to bring some flight here.

 

PUH-LEASE don't compare me to the nattering-nabobs on cleveland.bomb!  But...yes yes, indeed, Star Alliance.  And actually, I had missed that in April DOT had finally granted preliminary approval for their move to Star Alliance.  Hopefully that means we'll start hearing some more definitive details soon!  http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/news/alliance.aspx 

 

Which reminds me of something...if Allison Grant is a dedication aviation reporter for the PD, you'd think she would have the industry knowledge to mention this alliance change as an explanation for the elimination of the CDG flight, and not rely on speculation from Ricky Lake Smith.

Ricky Lake Smith!!  LMAO!

Cleveland flights to Heathrow Airport in London to begin Saturday

 

I'll be on it in two weeks. I don't care how many aisles it has. Just get me to London and back with cheap flights, on-time, smiling attendants and no mechanical surprises!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Cleveland flights to Heathrow Airport in London to begin Saturday

 

I'll be on it in two weeks. I don't care how many aisles it has. Just get me to London and back with cheap flights, on-time, smiling attendants and no mechanical surprises!

 

My boss was on the inaugural London-Cleveland flight on his way back from London.  He said it was awesome :-D

Cleveland flights to Heathrow Airport in London to begin Saturday

 

I'll be on it in two weeks. I don't care how many aisles it has. Just get me to London and back with cheap flights, on-time, smiling attendants and no mechanical surprises!

 

My boss was on the inaugural London-Cleveland flight on his way back from London.  He said it was awesome ;D

 

Any reason to avoid Newark, JFK, MIA, PHL, CHI or ATL is considered "awesome".

Cleveland flights to Heathrow Airport in London to begin Saturday

 

I'll be on it in two weeks. I don't care how many aisles it has. Just get me to London and back with cheap flights, on-time, smiling attendants and no mechanical surprises!

 

My boss was on the inaugural London-Cleveland flight on his way back from London. He said it was awesome ;D

 

Any reason to avoid Newark, JFK, MIA, PHL, CHI or ATL is considered "awesome".

 

Amen.  He said it was 9 hours from his hotel in London to his house.

Wi-Fi at Hopkins.

The following was recently posted on BrewedFreshDaily.com by Ed Morrison.

Any comments from those that have used the service?

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http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2009/fix-the-att-wifi-at-cle

Ed Morrison · Fix the AT&T WiFi at CLE

May 4th, 2009

 

Yesterday evening, a storm in Atlanta delayed my cflight out of Cleveland for about an hour. Thinking I could use the time to get some work done, I decided to hook into the AT&T wireless network at the airport.

 

My decision was more than casual. About six months ago, I had given up on CLE’s wireless. But I thought I’d give it another try.

 

Big mistake.

 

This wireless network is the worst I’ve encountered in my travels. Download speeds blazed along at 7-9 KB/sec.

 

The management at the airport clearly does not get it. They should try out the wireless at airports like Indianapolis, Kansas City, Chicago Midway, Atlanta, Baltimore, Milwaukee, Dallas, Shanghai. Even small airports like Cedar Rapids, Iowa; Manchester, NH; Boise Idaho; and Spokane, WA have better service.

 

I suppose this situation is the cost of doing business the old Cleveland way. For years, CLE has been a cashbox for corruption.

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Wi-Fi at Hopkins.

The following was recently posted on BrewedFreshDaily.com by Ed Morrison.

Any comments from those that have used the service?

-------

http://www.brewedfreshdaily.com/2009/fix-the-att-wifi-at-cle

Ed Morrison · Fix the AT&T WiFi at CLE

May 4th, 2009

 

Yesterday evening, a storm in Atlanta delayed my cflight out of Cleveland for about an hour. Thinking I could use the time to get some work done, I decided to hook into the AT&T wireless network at the airport.

 

My decision was more than casual. About six months ago, I had given up on CLE’s wireless. But I thought I’d give it another try.

 

Big mistake.

 

This wireless network is the worst I’ve encountered in my travels. Download speeds blazed along at 7-9 KB/sec.

 

The management at the airport clearly does not get it. They should try out the wireless at airports like Indianapolis, Kansas City, Chicago Midway, Atlanta, Baltimore, Milwaukee, Dallas, Shanghai. Even small airports like Cedar Rapids, Iowa; Manchester, NH; Boise Idaho; and Spokane, WA have better service.

 

I suppose this situation is the cost of doing business the old Cleveland way. For years, CLE has been a cashbox for corruption.

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JUST stand outside the PC like all the other "surfers"

IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact:  Jacqueline L. Mayo

Communications Manager

(216)265-3303/(216) 857-7151

                                                                       

2009 FIRST QUARTER, MARCH PASSENGER TRAFFIC DOWN, SHOWING MONTH-TO-MONTH IMPROVEMENTS

 

CLEVELAND, May 5, 2009 — March 2009 passenger traffic at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport (CLE) totaled 848,225, down 12.84% or 124,967 passengers compared to March 2008.  The number of passengers traveling through the airport averaged 27,362 daily.  While passenger traffic remained down in March, traffic was 6.93% better than the overall percentage decline in February 2009 vs. February 2008.  March 2009 passenger traffic was up 30.95%, or 200,455 passengers, vs. February 2009.

“We’re beginning to see small improvements in our passenger traffic numbers that we hope will continue,” said Airport Director Ricky Lake Smith. 

Year-to-date and first quarter passenger traffic (January – March 2009) totaled 2,127,302, down 16.99% or 435,340 passengers.

 

- 30 -

 

March 2009 passenger traffic was up 30.95%, or 200,455 passengers, vs. February 2009

 

Thats great but a little misleading as March 09 had 22 week days vs. Feb's 20 (and overall March has 3 more days than Feb). Using the 'average' number in the release would mean march traffic is up by around 119,000 passengers (200,000-3x27,000). month to adjacent month comparisons are not always the best to make (holidays, summer vacations, shorter/longer months, etc.), that's why traffic is generally reported as a specific month of one year to the same month in a previous year.

I'll be adding to the May total tomorrow after I get out of the hell-hole known as LGA.

  • 2 weeks later...

http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/05-18-2009/0005028164&EDATE=

 

AIRMALL® at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport is Ready to Rock with Opening of New Rock and Roll Hall of Fame + Museum Store

 

NE78862LOGO

 

CLEVELAND, May 18 /PRNewswire/ -- From Chuck Berry and James Brown to U2, R.E.M., and Madonna, the legends of rock and roll have established a new home at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport (CLE). BAA Cleveland, developer of the AIRMALL® at CLE, is pleased to announce the opening of the new Rock and Roll Hall of Fame + Museum Store, a signature retail unit that is part of the concessions transformation at CLE.

 

 

Located just beyond the Concourse B Security Checkpoint, the new Rock and Roll Hall of Fame + Museum Store includes a wall-sized graphic on the outside of the unit that depicts a timeline of major rock-and-roll events. Inside, travelers will find clothing for men, women and children; Hall of Fame memorabilia; and many gifts and accessories. The side of the store features seven plasma screens that will pulsate with the sights and sounds of famous rock moments and favorite rock videos.

 

 

The AIRMALL® at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport, a project of BAA Cleveland, is a product of the City of Cleveland's 10-year contract with BAA Cleveland to develop and manage concessions at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport. The city anticipates the AIRMALL® will double the current participation rate of local and minority-owned companies, double the number of concession jobs, and double retail sales figures during the next decade. When complete, the AIRMALL® at CLE will occupy 76,000 square feet of retail space.

 

 

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame + Museum Store is open Sunday through Friday from 6:00 a.m. to 8:30 p.m. and on Saturday from 6:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.

 

 

For more information on the AIRMALL® at CLE, visit www.baausa.com.

Cool.  So is it in the same space?

Next door is a new Johnston + Murphy and a new Hudson News around the area where the old R+R store was located. 

 

My dream job as an architect would be taking the world's largest scalpel to Hopkins!...

  • 3 weeks later...

http://www.airmall.com/documents/ClevelandShopDine.pdf

 

I was just at the airport the other day and saw the R & R hall of fame store and johnston and murphy.  It looks like there will be a great lakes brewing company...is this current or will it be in the future?  If so, it looks like the comments from Cleveland.com a few months back were taken to heart because people were emphasizing putting our pride points in the airport.

  • 3 weeks later...

Student twice puts planes on runway collision course

 

By Mike M. Ahlers

updated 9:20 p.m. EDT, Tue June 30, 2009

 

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A student controller was directing planes during two runway mishaps in the past month at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport, apparently giving instructions that placed planes on possible collision courses, federal investigators say.

 

More at cnn.com:

 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/06/30/ohio.runway.mishaps/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

 

Enhanced Food Court Opens with Leading National Brands at the AIRMALL® at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport

 

 

- Introduction of Bruegger's, Villa Italian Kitchen Represent First Stage of Transformation -

 

CLEVELAND, July 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Savory Italian classics and tasty New York-style bagels are now on the menu for travelers at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport (CLE). BAA Cleveland, developer of the new AIRMALL® at CLE, is pleased to announce the opening of the first two units at the new food court, which is located between Concourses B & C in the Main Terminal.

 

(Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20090304/NE78862LOGO )

 

Bruegger's (934 sq. ft.) is now offering its classic kettle-boiled New York-style water bagels to travelers, all begging to be liberally topped with the chain's secret-recipe cream cheese spreads in a variety of flavors. At the AIRMALL® at CLE, Bruegger's is featuring its full quick-service menu - freshly prepared sandwiches, wraps, soups, salads, fresh-roasted coffee, and a wide array of beverages. Founded in 1983 in Troy, NY, Bruegger's pioneered the concept of the bakery-cafe and has grown to nearly 300 establishments across the country.

 

For people seeking traditional Italian favorites, Villa Italian Kitchen (940 sq. ft.) has landed with its authentic Neapolitan-style recipes. Travelers can choose from old-world pizza, homemade pasta, classic Italian entrees, salads, and specialty items. Founded in 1964 in New York, Villa Italian Kitchen has more than 200 locations worldwide.

 

Bruegger's and Villa Italian Kitchen are both open Sunday through Friday from 5:00 a.m. to 8:30 p.m. and on Saturday from 5:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.

 

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Okay, this is cool and all, but your target audience is people flying out of Dulles on INTERNATIONAL flights.  Typically people have a little more luggage on those, and you're going to get them to DC on turboprops?!?  Really guys?!?

 

Continental Airlines adds flights to Washington Dulles from Cleveland Hopkins

by Alison Grant/Plain Dealer Reporter

 

CLEVELAND -- Continental Airlines said Monday it will inaugurate service from Cleveland to Washington Dulles International Airport on Nov. 1.

 

 

i've only flown int'l through dulles once and it was (maybe still is) a mess in the afternoon when all of the European flights arrive.

This is so inaccurate.  We've had service to IAD in the past.  It was ramped up when I Air started up, then slowly reduced at their demise.

 

Who wrote this??

 

And why the Q200, nobody wants to fly on those planes.  Continentals bean counters think that nobody wants to fly from Cleveland.  If they continue to start service on E-145's and Q-200 the service is doomed before it starts.  Ugh.

This is so inaccurate. We've had service to IAD in the past. It was ramped up when I Air started up, then slowly reduced at their demise.

 

Who wrote this??

 

And why the Q200, nobody wants to fly on those planes. Continentals bean counters think that nobody wants to fly from Cleveland. If they continue to start service on E-145's and Q-200 the service is doomed before it starts. Ugh.

 

I would rather have to deal with f-ing Newark than fly a turboprop to connect in DC, personally.

This is so inaccurate.  We've had service to IAD in the past.  It was ramped up when I Air started up, then slowly reduced at their demise.

 

Who wrote this??

 

And why the Q200, nobody wants to fly on those planes.  Continentals bean counters think that nobody wants to fly from Cleveland.  If they continue to start service on E-145's and Q-200 the service is doomed before it starts.  Ugh.

 

 

I would rather have to deal with f-ing Newark than fly a turboprop to connect in DC, personally.

 

You're pushing it now, sister!  LOL  And you're destination would be VA not DC.  LOL

The Q200 can handle more baggage more efficiently with pax on a stage length CLE-IAD-CLE. 

Welcome MD88PILOT!

 

For me personally, when I saw the article I was hopeful -- until I saw the flight times. Flights from Europe arrive the U.S. in the afternoon and evening. Only one of the new flights from IAD will connect with them, unless you want to spend the night in the airport! A Luftansa flight I was considering taking from Frankfurt arrives IAD after the last Continental flight heads for Cleveland. Doesn't work for me.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Flown United CLE-IAD, IAD-CLE 3 or 4 times this year. Frequency's good (6 or 7 flights each leg per day?) and on a "spacious" CRJ-200!

  • 2 weeks later...

Cleveland Hopkins International Airport gets biggest renovation in more than a decade

Posted by Tom Feran, The Plain Dealer September 16, 2009 17:40PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Commercial development is taking off inside Cleveland Hopkins International Airport.

 

New businesses arrive almost weekly. The terminal is getting its biggest renovation in more than a decade. Fresh paint and the removal of window obstructions have given a cleaner, brighter look even to areas under reconstruction.

 

When the makeover is finished, sometime next year, the airport's retail and restaurant space will have almost doubled. Revenues are expected to be twice what they were.

 

 

MORE AT CLEVELAND.COM: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/09/cleveland_hopkins_internationa_3.html

 

Enhanced Food Court Opens with Leading National Brands at the AIRMALL® at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport

 

 

- Introduction of Bruegger's, Villa Italian Kitchen Represent First Stage of Transformation -

 

CLEVELAND, July 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Savory Italian classics and tasty New York-style bagels are now on the menu for travelers at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport (CLE). BAA Cleveland, developer of the new AIRMALL® at CLE, is pleased to announce the opening of the first two units at the new food court, which is located between Concourses B & C in the Main Terminal.

 

Hopefully the new food court will be kept cleaner than the old.  There were some mornings I sat down in there and I felt like I was at the Flying J in West Virginia.

Okay, this is cool and all, but your target audience is people flying out of Dulles on INTERNATIONAL flights.  Typically people have a little more luggage on those, and you're going to get them to DC on turboprops?!?  Really guys?!?

 

Continental Airlines adds flights to Washington Dulles from Cleveland Hopkins

by Alison Grant/Plain Dealer Reporter

 

CLEVELAND -- Continental Airlines said Monday it will inaugurate service from Cleveland to Washington Dulles International Airport on Nov. 1.

 

 

 

This actually has a bigger positive spin for the Cleveland area than the new service. Continental contracts out ground operations for IAD to FSS (Flight Services and Systems) based in Independence. They'll be expanding back their operation after having it cut last fall when CO axed IAD-IAH and CLE. All those new rampers and ops folks might translate to a few more administrative jobs at HQ.

Another poster asked me to make available a diagram I drew, based on the future plans for Hopkins developed by airport officials. Thus, what appears below is not an official diagram -- just my interpretation of what's planned based on conversations I've had with airport officials. And, of course I had to add a high-speed rail link, next to a rerouted RTA Red Line. The Red Line should be part of the new terminal, officials said....

 

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Please do not publish this image without my permission.

 

KJP

 

Currently, RTA is rebuilding the decrepit drainage system in the RTA tunnel.  Sure would be a waste if the Rapid is rerouted as you note (a rerouting that I'm all for, btw).  Though I'd love it, I wouldn't hold my breat waiting for HSR to be diverted there; planners would probably figure the current NS ROW to be close enough.

Cleveland Hopkins International Airport gets biggest renovation in more than a decade

Posted by Tom Feran, The Plain Dealer September 16, 2009 17:40PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Commercial development is taking off inside Cleveland Hopkins International Airport.

 

New businesses arrive almost weekly. The terminal is getting its biggest renovation in more than a decade. Fresh paint and the removal of window obstructions have given a cleaner, brighter look even to areas under reconstruction.

 

When the makeover is finished, sometime next year, the airport's retail and restaurant space will have almost doubled. Revenues are expected to be twice what they were.

 

 

MORE AT CLEVELAND.COM: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/09/cleveland_hopkins_internationa_3.html

 

 

All sounds good, very resourceful.... but I hope that the follow up in all this will be of quality. Sorry, but that is where I have to offer our city some constructive critique because the simple but noticeable basics often lack. This means simple cleaning, knowledge of their city... and a friendlier attitude amongst airport employees.... (can the puss attitude)  better cleaning of such things like...windows, floors, restrooms, etc...    Not so sure I like lacing the place with more chains though. Dunkin' Donuts? Please! Reminds me of 'indoor sprawl' Those kinds of places are sure hard to find these days! Not to crack on their items, but I think we can do better...it would be nice to get some local Cleveland exclusives in there like Great Lakes...unique things so that visitors are greeted with what defines Cleveland, makes us unique... and not so much the clone zone. Rock and Roll Store.. That's the idea I am talking about. Start recycling too, already....like so many other airports.

"Visitors will be able to pick from a mix of regional and national fare, from Great Lakes Brewing Co. and Panini's"

This all sounds nice, but it'll be host to a trickle of people until Cleveland can upgrade Hopkins into more of a regional hub -- but that's unlikely anytime soon, no doubt, given the economy and stress on the airline industry.  It sure would be nice if, perhaps, the potential 3-Cs Amtrak (then Ohio Hub at Cleveland) can influence more statewide, and even out-of-state travel to Hopkins --- much the way Baltimore upgraded BWI w/ the Northeast Corridor (and I-95, along with Southwest Airlines and some other lowcost carriers)... We get crushed sitting btw O'Hare, Detroit, Cincy and the East Coast...

 

... Ohio well, good to see Great Lakes Brewing Co. more visibility in the expansion.

"Visitors will be able to pick from a mix of regional and national fare, from Great Lakes Brewing Co. and Panini's"

 

I read this.. Cannot understand why that slipped me! Sorry... But its good to know. Must be my eyes killing me!

Cleveland Hopkins International Airport gets biggest renovation in more than a decade

Posted by Tom Feran, The Plain Dealer September 16, 2009 17:40PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio Commercial development is taking off inside Cleveland Hopkins International Airport.

 

New businesses arrive almost weekly. The terminal is getting its biggest renovation in more than a decade. Fresh paint and the removal of window obstructions have given a cleaner, brighter look even to areas under reconstruction.

 

When the makeover is finished, sometime next year, the airport's retail and restaurant space will have almost doubled. Revenues are expected to be twice what they were.

 

 

MORE AT CLEVELAND.COM: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/09/cleveland_hopkins_internationa_3.html

 

 

All sounds good, very resourceful.... but I hope that the follow up in all this will be of quality. Sorry, but that is where I have to offer our city some constructive critique because the simple but noticeable basics often lack. This means simple cleaning, knowledge of their city... and a friendlier attitude amongst airport employees.... (can the puss attitude) better cleaning of such things like...windows, floors, restrooms, etc... Not so sure I like lacing the place with more chains though. Dunkin' Donuts? Please! Reminds me of 'indoor sprawl' Those kinds of places are sure hard to find these days! Not to crack on their items, but I think we can do better...it would be nice to get some local Cleveland exclusives in there like Great Lakes...unique things so that visitors are greeted with what defines Cleveland, makes us unique... and not so much the clone zone. Rock and Roll Store.. That's the idea I am talking about. Start recycling too, already....like so many other airports.

 

I could not agree more -- I travel a lot and I find Hopkins to be one of the dirtiest airports around.  And the friendlines?  What friendliness?  In the past 10 years of flying regularly I have met 2 people who work in the retail area who were great.  They worked at the now closed nut counter.  One of them did get a job in the new food court.  Glad for her but too bad she remains the only one so far I have interacted with.

Cleveland Hopkins International Airport gets biggest renovation in more than a decade

Posted by Tom Feran, The Plain Dealer September 16, 2009 17:40PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Commercial development is taking off inside Cleveland Hopkins International Airport.

 

New businesses arrive almost weekly. The terminal is getting its biggest renovation in more than a decade. Fresh paint and the removal of window obstructions have given a cleaner, brighter look even to areas under reconstruction.

 

When the makeover is finished, sometime next year, the airport's retail and restaurant space will have almost doubled. Revenues are expected to be twice what they were.

 

 

MORE AT CLEVELAND.COM: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/09/cleveland_hopkins_internationa_3.html

 

 

All sounds good, very resourceful.... but I hope that the follow up in all this will be of quality. Sorry, but that is where I have to offer our city some constructive critique because the simple but noticeable basics often lack. This means simple cleaning, knowledge of their city... and a friendlier attitude amongst airport employees.... (can the puss attitude)  better cleaning of such things like...windows, floors, restrooms, etc...    Not so sure I like lacing the place with more chains though. Dunkin' Donuts? Please! Reminds me of 'indoor sprawl' Those kinds of places are sure hard to find these days! Not to crack on their items, but I think we can do better...it would be nice to get some local Cleveland exclusives in there like Great Lakes...unique things so that visitors are greeted with what defines Cleveland, makes us unique... and not so much the clone zone. Rock and Roll Store.. That's the idea I am talking about. Start recycling too, already....like so many other airports.

 

I'm trying to figure out how Dunkin Donuts is "indoor sprawl".

 

The DD at Dulles is a kiosk about the size of four public bathroom stalls. Starbucks has more property than DD at IAD.

 

I understand your point about CLE having unique items but airports aren't designed just for people that have time to do shopping and stroll the mall, it's also about people that don't have time. I gotta believe business travellers will appreciate DD because it's the most efficient place to get breakfast in the morning. The line is typically 10-20 people deep every morning (and moving) while other breakfast/coffee places in the B concourse (including almighty Starbucks) sit almost idle.

 

Also, the thousands of employees that work at Hopkins deserve affordable items to eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner. It's easy to forget the employee "captive audience", many who make less money than the average Joe, that helps move your flight along.

 

I think BAA is doing a nice job of mixing all types of stores into the works. It certainly won't hurt CLE's chance of keeping CO committed to the area.

The BAA renovation of CLE is deeper than just attracting new stores.

 

It's about shifting the revenue stream away from landing fees and into the concession areas. CLE was once, in the not too distant past, one of the most expensive airports in the US for an aircraft to fly into. With the quality of CLE's facilites, it's amazing the CO has stayed committed to NE Ohio considering the amount the city was charging.

 

Now not only has the waste from Mok and others been cleaned up, but by using BAA, CLE is now becoming competitive with other airports nationally.

 

Ricky will turn CLE into a solid facility, just like he did with BWI. It's going to take some time though.

I could not agree more -- I travel a lot and I find Hopkins to be one of the dirtiest airports around.  And the friendlines?  What friendliness?  In the past 10 years of flying regularly I have met 2 people who work in the retail area who were great.  They worked at the now closed nut counter.  One of them did get a job in the new food court.  Glad for her but too bad she remains the only one so far I have interacted with.

 

As someone who flys out of hopkins almost weekly (and some time 5/6 a week), I would hardly say its the worst or most unfriendly.

 

Yes, there is ROOM for improvement, but hopkins on an operations point is a lot better than many airports.  Those folks at Newark, JFK, LHR, CDG make CLE airport workers look like fairy princesses.

I could not agree more -- I travel a lot and I find Hopkins to be one of the dirtiest airports around. And the friendlines? What friendliness? In the past 10 years of flying regularly I have met 2 people who work in the retail area who were great. They worked at the now closed nut counter. One of them did get a job in the new food court. Glad for her but too bad she remains the only one so far I have interacted with.

 

As someone who flys out of hopkins almost weekly (and some time 5/6 a week), I would hardly say its the worst or most unfriendly.

 

Yes, there is ROOM for improvement, but hopkins on an operations point is a lot better than many airports. Those folks at Newark, JFK, LHR, CDG make CLE airport workers look like fairy princesses.

 

After flying out of the newly rebuilt Jacksonville, Florida airport earlier this summer, I have to say, I very much appreciate BAA's commitment to retail price.  We went to Quiznos (because it was one of the only fast food options there besides Sbarro), and they only sold regular sized subs.  Not only that, but the regular sized subs were $8 each, and since there also was no such thing as a combo meal, each extra item (soda, chips, etc) was $2 each.  We paid $24 for two meals......  at freakin' Quiznos!

I could not agree more -- I travel a lot and I find Hopkins to be one of the dirtiest airports around.  And the friendlines?  What friendliness?  In the past 10 years of flying regularly I have met 2 people who work in the retail area who were great.  They worked at the now closed nut counter.  One of them did get a job in the new food court.  Glad for her but too bad she remains the only one so far I have interacted with.

 

As someone who flys out of hopkins almost weekly (and some time 5/6 a week), I would hardly say its the worst or most unfriendly.

 

Yes, there is ROOM for improvement, but hopkins on an operations point is a lot better than many airports.  Those folks at Newark, JFK, LHR, CDG make CLE airport workers look like fairy princesses.

 

After flying out of the newly rebuilt Jacksonville, Florida airport earlier this summer, I have to say, I very much appreciate BAA's commitment to retail price.  We went to Quiznos (because it was one of the only fast food options there besides Sbarro), and they only sold regular sized subs.  Not only that, but the regular sized subs were $8 each, and since there also was no such thing as a combo meal, each extra item (soda, chips, etc) was $2 each.  We paid $24 for two meals......  at freakin' Quiznos!

 

You got screwed royally!

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