December 23, 20168 yr Speaking of Bob Hope as I just saw a picture in the vintage thread. Burbank Airport has pretty much taken the name of Bob Hope Airport and rebranded it. How does Cleveland Bob Hope International Airport sound? I like 'Hope International' as a name for an airport. It's time for a rebranding of our own.
December 23, 20168 yr Speaking of Bob Hope as I just saw a picture in the vintage thread. Burbank Airport has pretty much taken the name of Bob Hope Airport and rebranded it. How does Cleveland Bob Hope International Airport sound? I like 'Hope International' as a name for an airport. It's time for a rebranding of our own. Good idea...other than Bob Hope is already taken! How about Lebron James International? Complete with a new code "LBJ." We can also change runways 24 L/R to 23....what is one degree of magnetic difference amongst professional pilots...and the opposite end is his former number 6! :-P
December 23, 20168 yr ^ I guess I wasn't clear. Bob Hope Airport is now called Hollywood Burbank Airport. So I just think that Hopkins needs a new name for a new image. Bob Hope was world famous for over 40 years and was always repping Cleveland. I think Hope International would be a great name.
December 23, 20168 yr We can also change runways 24 L/R to 23....what is one degree of magnetic difference amongst professional pilots...and the opposite end is his former number 6! The runways used to be 5/23; I believe the earth's magnetic field shifted a bit. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
January 4, 20178 yr I'm currently on a JetBlue flight from Cleveland to Boston. My second time flying JetBlue and both have been great. I would fly them more but it's so inconvenient to go through either Boston or FLL to get to many destinations. I mean, if they continue to grow, they will eventually need a Midwest Hub, right? Imagine how many people in the mid Atlantic and Midwest could go west without back tracking? The plane is full and I've heard JetBlue likes cleveland. Aviation people, would u suspect that JetBlue would need additional hubs in the future?
January 4, 20178 yr ... I've heard JetBlue likes cleveland. Aviation people, would u suspect that JetBlue would need additional hubs in the future? JetBlue has said that their CLE station opened with better loads than any other of their recent BOS expansion cities; so they are pleased and have expanded by adding a third flight to BOS. I suspect their next add will be a second flight to Fort Lauderdale. Yes, they will need another hub somewhere down the road. Will it be CLE? I doubt it unless the area begins showing population growth again. I suspect their priority will be placed on transatlantic service out of BOS/JFK for the next few years. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
January 4, 20178 yr ... I've heard JetBlue likes cleveland. Aviation people, would u suspect that JetBlue would need additional hubs in the future? JetBlue has said that their CLE station opened with better loads than any other of their recent BOS expansion cities; so they are pleased and have expanded by adding a third flight to BOS. I suspect their next add will be a second flight to Fort Lauderdale. Yes, they will need another hub somewhere down the road. Will it be CLE? I doubt it unless the area begins showing population growth again. I suspect their priority will be placed on transatlantic service out of BOS/JFK for the next few years. I agree. I still think JetBlue could make adds like JFK, Orlando and possibly Oakland and/or Long Beach if United were to reduce service to LAX/San Fran. On a side note, it was nice to see Frontier bring back Portland and Seattle for the summer. A lot of this service will also be on their larger Airbus 321 aircraft. Have to think Alaska will take a stab at Cleveland. It's also interesting to hear United's CEO Munoz say they will focus on domestic routes for 2017. This new focus might bode well to getting increased service or maybe reestablishment of closed markets. We'll see.
January 4, 20178 yr ... I've heard JetBlue likes cleveland. Aviation people, would u suspect that JetBlue would need additional hubs in the future? JetBlue has said that their CLE station opened with better loads than any other of their recent BOS expansion cities; so they are pleased and have expanded by adding a third flight to BOS. I suspect their next add will be a second flight to Fort Lauderdale. Yes, they will need another hub somewhere down the road. Will it be CLE? I doubt it unless the area begins showing population growth again. I suspect their priority will be placed on transatlantic service out of BOS/JFK for the next few years. I agree. I still think JetBlue could make adds like JFK, Orlando and possibly Oakland and/or Long Beach if United were to reduce service to LAX/San Fran. On a side note, it was nice to see Frontier bring back Portland and Seattle for the summer. A lot of this service will also be on their larger Airbus 321 aircraft. Have to think Alaska will take a stab at Cleveland. It's also interesting to hear United's CEO Munoz say they will focus on domestic routes for 2017. This new focus might bode well to getting increased service or maybe reestablishment of closed markets. We'll see. just from my perspective as a business traveler, and i cant imagine im the only one...i would fly Jetblue Everywhere if there was a hub in the midwest. I cant fly to the rest of the country through boston or FLL, it just doesnt make any sense. They have a great brand, great marketing and a good product...just need to make things easier on their travelers. I think a Midwest hub would do that
January 4, 20178 yr Southwest is closing down Akron-Canton. Cleveland is getting 3x daily service to Atlanta. Additional flight to St. Louis, making it 2x daily. Spirit will practically have Akron-Canton to itself now with Allegiant moving to Hopkins as well. Wonder if Spirit will move their entire operation there now.
January 4, 20178 yr When does Allegiant start? I like the destinations but have heard bad things about their aircrafts
January 4, 20178 yr From upthread Allegiant moving services from Akron-Canton Airport to Cleveland Hopkins The airline is also adding four new destinations Austin, Jacksonville, New Orleans and Phoenix to its list of six existing destinations. Flights to those new destinations will begin next year. The airline says the decision doubles the number of weekly routes out of Northeast Ohio region. http://fox8.com/2016/09/21/officials-making-major-air-service-announcement-at-cleveland-hopkins/
January 4, 20178 yr Southwest is closing down Akron-Canton. Cleveland is getting 3x daily service to Atlanta. Additional flight to St. Louis, making it 2x daily. Spirit will practically have Akron-Canton to itself now with Allegiant moving to Hopkins as well. Wonder if Spirit will move their entire operation there now. CAK is pretty much just back to 10 years ago when it was just Air Tran and the hub destinations. I don't think it changes much, if u have the opportunity save money, it's a good place to travel from...but you were never getting anywhere unique. Will be real interesting to see how the southwest flights to Atlanta stack up against Delta
January 5, 20178 yr CAK's aggressive marketing in Cleveland to steal passengers from Hopkins (perhaps helping kill the UA hub) has finally come full circle as the last remaining AirTran route departs for Hopkins. Interesting comment above if Spirit will move its entire operation to CAK from CLE. Remember, the CEO of Spirit is the former CEO of AirTran which loved and built up CAK. That said, it was a different time--CLE had hub prices and resistance (price war) from CO/UA from any new entrants on their routes. That's no longer the case. The CEO of Spirit must be nostalgic as he's adding service to his old airport (CAK), but he'd be foolish to abandon CLE for CAK, as CLE is still by far more convenient to more people and a far more recognizable destination to travelers than CAK, and is a superior airport overall.
January 5, 20178 yr Southwest is closing down Akron-Canton. Cleveland is getting 3x daily service to Atlanta. Additional flight to St. Louis, making it 2x daily. Spirit will practically have Akron-Canton to itself now with Allegiant moving to Hopkins as well. Wonder if Spirit will move their entire operation there now. CAK is pretty much just back to 10 years ago when it was just Air Tran and the hub destinations. I don't think it changes much, if u have the opportunity save money, it's a good place to travel from...but you were never getting anywhere unique. Will be real interesting to see how the southwest flights to Atlanta stack up against Delta What is Delta flying on Cleveland-Atlanta? Is it mostly Delta Connection stuff or is it mainline aircraft? CAK's aggressive marketing in Cleveland to steal passengers from Hopkins (perhaps helping kill the UA hub) has finally come full circle as the last remaining AirTran route departs for Hopkins. Interesting comment above if Spirit will move its entire operation to CAK from CLE. Remember, the CEO of Spirit is the former CEO of AirTran which loved and built up CAK. That said, it was a different time--CLE had hub prices and resistance (price war) from CO/UA from any new entrants on their routes. That's no longer the case. The CEO of Spirit must be nostalgic as he's adding service to his old airport (CAK), but he'd be foolish to abandon CLE for CAK, as CLE is still by far more convenient to more people and a far more recognizable destination to travelers than CAK, and is a superior airport overall. If the split Spirit operation fails and they consolidate at Hopkins, Akron-Canton's operation will go full circle back to the mid-1990s when it was just a spoke airport for various legacy airline hubs. I even think Continental briefly dabbled in Akron/Canton-Hopkins before the post-9/11 security restrictions.
January 5, 20178 yr ^ CLE-ATL on Delta is 717s and MD80s, all mainline. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
January 5, 20178 yr I think the bigger problem is the airline mergers. They're killing service to mid-sized cities across the country and jacking up fares.
January 10, 20178 yr Allegiant will fly from Cleveland Hopkins to Destin-Fort Walton Beach, Florida, starting in May CLEVELAND, Ohio - Allegiant Air, the low-cost carrier that starts flying from Cleveland Hopkins next month, will add Destin-Fort Walton Beach, Florida, to its roster of destinations, starting in May. Destin-Fort Walton Beach Airport, on the Florida Panhandle, will be Allegiant's 11th destination from Cleveland. The route will operate seasonally, starting May 12 and ending sometime in the fall, with twice weekly flights between the two cities, on Fridays and Mondays. It is the first time in at least a decade that Clevelanders will be able to fly nonstop to Northwest Florida, a popular beach destination. http://www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2017/01/allegiant_will_fly_from_clevel.html#incart_river_home
January 10, 20178 yr Ugh why does it have to be Allegiant...I guess I'll take my chances. Family lives in Destin and it's always so expensive to fly to visit.
January 10, 20178 yr Spirit Airlines adds new, daily service from Cleveland Hopkins to New Orleans CLEVELAND, Ohio - Spirit Airlines is adding a daily, nonstop flight to New Orleans from Cleveland Hopkins International Airport, starting in May. Hopkins hasn't had a daily flight to Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport since United Airlines cut the route in 2014, part of the carrier's broader plan to close its hub in Cleveland. The new route starts May 25, with a departure from Cleveland at 6 a.m., arriving in New Orleans at 7:25 a.m. The return trip departs from New Orleans at 7:50 p.m., arriving in Cleveland at 11:20 p.m. New Orleans is Spirit's 11th nonstop destination from Cleveland Hopkins. http://www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2017/01/spirit_airlines_adds_new_daily.html#incart_river_home
January 10, 20178 yr Ugh why does it have to be Allegiant...I guess I'll take my chances. Family lives in Destin and it's always so expensive to fly to visit. I've flown Allegiant and didn't think it was that bad. Now, if it were a longer trip, ehhhhhh.
January 10, 20178 yr New Orleans is a very fast growing cruise port. Daily flights will be good for passengers flying from the Cleveland area to go on a cruise out of New Orleans.
January 10, 20178 yr New Orleans is a very fast growing cruise port. Daily flights will be good for passengers flying from the Cleveland area to go on a cruise out of New Orleans. And I would wager that many cruise passengers hail from Cleveland. I remember reading a report a few months ago identifying Cleveland as one of the top unserved nonstop markets out of New Orleans: http://www.therouteshop.com/profiles/louis-armstrong-new-orleans-international/ Looking at the same site, it appears they have already edited it to indicate the new service. Hopefully there may be some two way tourism going on.
January 10, 20178 yr Spirit Airlines adds new, daily service from Cleveland Hopkins to New Orleans CLEVELAND, Ohio - Spirit Airlines is adding a daily, nonstop flight to New Orleans from Cleveland Hopkins International Airport, starting in May. Hopkins hasn't had a daily flight to Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport since United Airlines cut the route in 2014, part of the carrier's broader plan to close its hub in Cleveland. The new route starts May 25, with a departure from Cleveland at 6 a.m., arriving in New Orleans at 7:25 a.m. The return trip departs from New Orleans at 7:50 p.m., arriving in Cleveland at 11:20 p.m. New Orleans is Spirit's 11th nonstop destination from Cleveland Hopkins. http://www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2017/01/spirit_airlines_adds_new_daily.html#incart_river_home Allegiant's bookings for the non-daily New Orleans flight must be pretty good to get Spirit to add a daily. More proof that Cleveland is still underserved.
January 11, 20178 yr Cleveland names new airports chief Cleveland has a new head of airport operations, and bringing international air service to Cleveland is a high priority. Aviation consultant Robert Kennedy, a former deputy general manager and interim general manager of Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, was sworn in Wednesday morning, Jan. 11, as Cleveland director of port control by Mayor Frank Jackson. The director of port control leads operations at both Cleveland Hopkins International Airport and Burke Lakefront Airport. For the last five-and-a-half years Kennedy was vice president of consulting services for Aviation Strategies International, a civil aviation consultancy. His work was chiefly with airports outside the United States. http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170111/NEWS/170119926/cleveland-names-new-airports-chief
January 11, 20178 yr Wow. Looks good on paper. I'm sure AmRap will be happy that szabo is no longer in charge. Go get that international service!
January 11, 20178 yr Hallelujah! I was just conceding yesterday that Szabo was going to be director indefinitely. There have been a lot of service announcements of late, but you'd think absolutely none of them have had to do with lobbying from CLE.
January 11, 20178 yr Wow. Looks good on paper. I'm sure AmRap will be happy that szabo is no longer in charge. Go get that international service! It's possible to get an idea from future bookings, although it won't be exact; this works less well with the ultra low-cost carriers because their bookings tend to be made closer to the travel date than is the case with the higher priced carriers. In Allegiant's case you can tell bookings are good if they raise the fare - and all airlines track that data. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
January 11, 20178 yr For Cleveland Clinic worldwide draw and reach, I wonder if there's enough demand for a Middle Eastern destination. Sounds like a solid hire!
January 12, 20178 yr For Cleveland Clinic worldwide draw and reach, I wonder if there's enough demand for a Middle Eastern destination. Sounds like a solid hire! If only our mayor preferred to subsidize a $12 million air route rather than a 1,000 foot bus route extension! :whip:
January 24, 20178 yr Does anyone know what gates Allegiant will be using when they start service next month?
January 25, 20178 yr ^ Allegiant will use one of the common use gates in Concourse A. A2 or A4, perhaps? Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
January 30, 20178 yr http://www.wkyc.com/mb/news/local/cleveland/major-announcement-coming-tuesday-at-cleveland-hopkins-airport/394511274 I know one of you know what's going on. Spill the beans! The fact that frontier is there diminishes my excitement a bit, but I'll be open minded
January 30, 20178 yr http://www.wkyc.com/mb/news/local/cleveland/major-announcement-coming-tuesday-at-cleveland-hopkins-airport/394511274 I know one of you know what's going on. Spill the beans! The fact that frontier is there diminishes my excitement a bit, but I'll be open minded I don't have any clue but Cincinnati has a "major announcement" this week as well. Maybe it's just coincidence. If Frontier execs are flying to Hopkins for this it's probably for a decent sized expansion which is a bit surprising because Cleveland is one of their larger stations already. Maybe a crew base? Maybe Caribbean routes? Of the wall would be a Frontier code share with Norwegian or another Euro low cost carrier and the start of real international service. I hope the new director isn't going to go nuts over every new route. Have a party when you can land London, Paris or Frankfurt. Now I see Nashville has an announcement this week as well, not airline specific. The Nashville FB page says it's a new destination.
January 30, 20178 yr Ahh bummer. Sounds like hyperbole in the headline. Probably just adding a route or two
January 30, 20178 yr http://www.wkyc.com/mb/news/local/cleveland/major-announcement-coming-tuesday-at-cleveland-hopkins-airport/394511274 I know one of you know what's going on. Spill the beans! The fact that frontier is there diminishes my excitement a bit, but I'll be open minded I don't have any clue but Cincinnati has a "major announcement" this week as well. Maybe it's just coincidence. If Frontier execs are flying to Hopkins for this it's probably for a decent sized expansion which is a bit surprising because Cleveland is one of their larger stations already. Maybe a crew base? Maybe Caribbean routes? Of the wall would be a Frontier code share with Norwegian or another Euro low cost carrier and the start of real international service. I hope the new director isn't going to go nuts over every new route. Have a party when you can land London, Paris or Frankfurt. Now I see Nashville has an announcement this week as well, not airline specific. The Nashville FB page says it's a new destination. Nashville was service to Calgary on WestJet. Looks like Cincy and Cleveland are related to Frontier for sure.
January 30, 20178 yr It could.be Cle to Havana. Frontier has been talking about adding Havana routes for several months. CLE would be a good gateway as the distance is probably appropriate to run that efficiently. Also there were the articles last week about the entourage from Cleveland visiting Cuba to gauge opportunities.
January 30, 20178 yr CLE-HAV would be incredible. However, the US-Cuba bilateral allowed only 20 daily flights on US carriers; F9 applied for 14 routes and was awarded only one, Miami-Havana. They also applied for MIA-SCU, MIA-CMW, MIA-SNU, Saturday ORD-VRA, and Saturday PHL-VRA.
January 31, 20178 yr CLE-HAV would be incredible. However, the US-Cuba bilateral allowed only 20 daily flights on US carriers; F9 applied for 14 routes and was awarded only one, Miami-Havana. They also applied for MIA-SCU, MIA-CMW, MIA-SNU, Saturday ORD-VRA, and Saturday PHL-VRA. The airlines wildly overestimated the demand for Cuba; they're already cutting back service. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
January 31, 20178 yr Frontier to announce tomorrow CLE to SAN, IAH, CLT, and MSP. Hopkins-San Diego should be very interesting. Outside of a few December flights for a few years, I don't think UA or CO had scheduled service there. Charlotte - American hub Minneapolis - Delta hub Houston/Intercontinental - United hub Not quite sure what Frontier is doing there but they have the numbers to justify it I guess. It's also kind for strange Pittsburgh has international service to Iceland, Frankfurt and Paris but only has a handful of flights to SF/LA. Meanwhile, Cleveland has no service to Europe but flights to San Diego/Portland/Seattle and alot of service to SF/LA.
January 31, 20178 yr I know what they are doing. I just expensed $650 on a flight to charlotte for this week. I was pissed. I think Charlotte and minny are typically really expensive direct flights
January 31, 20178 yr Clearly 3-4x per week is no comparison to 1-4-x per day of the legacies, so for many, Frontier doesn't work. But it does have the effect of helping break some of the monopoly pricing.
February 1, 20178 yr Frontier to announce tomorrow CLE to SAN, IAH, CLT, and MSP. I liked the new guy Kennedy's comment at the press conf. about going after European service. Caterpillar just blamed inadequate air service in Peoria for their move to Chicago. With Cleveland's superior demographics, losing WOW to PIT should have got Szabo fired. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
February 1, 20178 yr Frontier to announce tomorrow CLE to SAN, IAH, CLT, and MSP. Hopkins-San Diego should be very interesting. Outside of a few December flights for a few years, I don't think UA or CO had scheduled service there. Charlotte - American hub Minneapolis - Delta hub Houston/Intercontinental - United hub Not quite sure what Frontier is doing there but they have the numbers to justify it I guess. It's also kind for strange Pittsburgh has international service to Iceland, Frankfurt and Paris but only has a handful of flights to SF/LA. Meanwhile, Cleveland has no service to Europe but flights to San Diego/Portland/Seattle and alot of service to SF/LA. Meanwhile Frontier quietly dropped its Cleveland-to-Philadelphia route meaning, good bye $76 round trips home. Thanks a ton Frontier!!
February 1, 20178 yr Frontier to announce tomorrow CLE to SAN, IAH, CLT, and MSP. Hopkins-San Diego should be very interesting. Outside of a few December flights for a few years, I don't think UA or CO had scheduled service there. Charlotte - American hub Minneapolis - Delta hub Houston/Intercontinental - United hub Not quite sure what Frontier is doing there but they have the numbers to justify it I guess. It's also kind for strange Pittsburgh has international service to Iceland, Frankfurt and Paris but only has a handful of flights to SF/LA. Meanwhile, Cleveland has no service to Europe but flights to San Diego/Portland/Seattle and alot of service to SF/LA. Meanwhile Frontier quietly dropped its Cleveland-to-Philadelphia route meaning, good bye $76 round trips home. Thanks a ton Frontier!! I wouldn't hold my breath about Houston, Minneapolis or Charlotte. I'll be surprised if all three survive into next summer.
February 9, 20178 yr Cleveland Hopkins passenger traffic continues to rebound from United cuts, sees 4 percent growth in 2016 CLEVELAND, Ohio - Cleveland Hopkins International Airport continues to rebound from the loss of its United Airlines hub, drawing nearly 4 percent more passengers in 2016 than the year before. The airport served 8.42 million travelers in 2016, an increase of 3.95 percent over 2015. The number is still lower than 2013, the last full year that United operated a hub in Cleveland, when 9.07 million passengers passed through Hopkins. But the gap is closing. http://www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2017/02/cleveland_hopkins_passenger_tr_1.html
February 9, 20178 yr Cleveland Hopkins passenger traffic continues to rebound from United cuts, sees 4 percent growth in 2016 CLEVELAND, Ohio - Cleveland Hopkins International Airport continues to rebound from the loss of its United Airlines hub, drawing nearly 4 percent more passengers in 2016 than the year before. The airport served 8.42 million travelers in 2016, an increase of 3.95 percent over 2015. The number is still lower than 2013, the last full year that United operated a hub in Cleveland, when 9.07 million passengers passed through Hopkins. But the gap is closing. http://www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2017/02/cleveland_hopkins_passenger_tr_1.html If anything this shows just how much O/D business is in Cleveland....
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