July 9, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, LibertyBlvd said: What other Cleveland-based company besides Eaton is doing that? My cousin works for a European subsidiary of Progressive. Essentially, his business insures rented cars based in Ireland - for instance, his biggest client is Enterprise, who also has a presence across Ireland via smaller corporate entities. A random guy I met at a pub in Westport works for Park Ohio. My other cousin's wife works part time for the Cleveland Clinic, whose operations call center is hosted in Ireland.
July 9, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, LibertyBlvd said: What other Cleveland-based company besides Eaton is doing that? Steris out of Mentor
July 9, 20222 yr Whenever it is that we shut down Burke and save the $1.5 million to $2 million per year the city loses to sustain it, use 75 percent of that savings to lower the landing fees at Hopkins and the rest to help subsidize direct flights to Heathrow, Frankfurt and/or Dublin. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 9, 20222 yr 5 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: What other Cleveland-based company besides Eaton is doing that? CRH Company out of Ireland owns a number of aggregate umbrella companies in northern Ohio. That be another one.
July 9, 20222 yr 7 hours ago, eyehrtfood said: This Simple Flying article mentions that Cleveland, St Louis, and a few other cities are right behind just announced Tampa in the size of unserved London/Heathrow non-stop demand. Heathrow's Largest Unserved US Market: Virgin Atlantic Reveals Tampa Flights https://simpleflying.com/virgin-announces-heathrow-tampa/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=echo&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1657103982 Nothing against the CLE team, but I highly doubt Virgin Atlantic will add service to Cleveland without more robust Delta service. They would be more likely to enter CVG before CLE just because there is more connections and flight offerings to facilitate Virgin Atlantic via Delta. If CLE doesn't go after a European Star Alliance airline they should at least tempt Icelandic again since they are adding new routes once they receive new aircraft. Although 737max isn't a sexy flight.
July 9, 20222 yr I just want Delta to start flying to Milwaukee. Or any airline, but I’d certainly prefer Delta. With no one else flying it now, I would think they could make a couple regional jets a day work. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
July 9, 20222 yr I used the most recent (Southwest) flight to Milwaukee 1-2x monthly for several years to my company's Wisconsin HQ - but remember it being the lowest/among the lowest % of seats filled of any CLE flight each month (though operated on a mainline 737 vs prior United, etc... regional jets). I would use at the same frequency again - CLE-MKE very much needed. I now fly to Chicago and add 1+ hours of drove time.
July 10, 20222 yr 22 hours ago, eyehrtfood said: I used the most recent (Southwest) flight to Milwaukee 1-2x monthly for several years to my company's Wisconsin HQ - but remember it being the lowest/among the lowest % of seats filled of any CLE flight each month (though operated on a mainline 737 vs prior United, etc... regional jets). I would use at the same frequency again - CLE-MKE very much needed. I now fly to Chicago and add 1+ hours of drove time. I knew the Southwest flight wasn't going to work because there was no way they would fill a 737, and Southwest doesn't fly smaller planes. That route needs to be a regional jet. I've been going to Milwaukee 8-10x / year, and it looks like that will be increasing. (I work for Rockwell Automation.) For me, sometime I fly to Chicago and take the bus (the direct bus is actually good, although I wish it was more frequent); sometimes I connect through Detroit. Next week I'm actually going to take Amtrak Milwaukee to Chicago, then take the Orange line to Midway and fly back on Southwest. Just brutal. If we lived in a first world country, Milwaukee to Cleveland would be 3 hours on high speed rail and no one would ever think of flying it. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
July 12, 20222 yr Saw this yesterday in Rochester, it's older marketing prints so assuming this was when United was still a hub at CLE.
July 20, 20222 yr TRANSFORMING CLE 'This is going to be a completely different facility,' a Cleveland Hopkins executive says. It's one thing when the director of Cleveland Hopkins International Airport uses the word "transformative" to describe the plan to rebuild most of the airport's facilities over the next two decades. It's another thing when the airlines that lease space at the airport use the same word — and then cross their fingers that the plan will be executed by airport management and city leaders who are bound to change in the meantime. "Our facilities are deficient. We don't have enough space, and we're not optimally configured," said Dennis Kramer, chief of airport development at Cleveland Hopkins. Kramer, who will take over for retiring airport director, Robert Kennedy, as interim director later this month, will be responsible for leading the airport's $2 billion master plan project to reconstruct 70% of the airport and renovate the remaining 30% by 2042. The project "will be transformative and bring our airport up to a modern-day facility that people can be proud of," Kramer said. "In 15 to 20 years, this is going to be a completely different facility," he said. "We need to push this plan forward as quickly as we can." More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2022/07/20/leading-cleveland-hopkins-into-the-future.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 20, 20222 yr Competitively, CLE needs to be updated in 5 years, not 15-20 years. Cities like Kansas City will go from approval to totally new $1B-$2B airport facilities within about 5 years. Columbus is doing the same. Pittsburgh again reworking their 80s airport into something new. None of these are spread over 15-20 years.
July 20, 20222 yr ^ Agreed. But this is Cleveland. For some reason, everything moves at a snail's pace.
July 20, 20222 yr So true. Why in the world must this take 20 years?! Grand Rapids is also doing a large expansion that was approved quickly and already under construction. So frustrating here how we have to take years creating a master plan and then do studies and surveys for even more years before anything can even begin … and then it’s done in 17 phases. UGH.
July 20, 20222 yr 39 minutes ago, eyehrtfood said: Competitively, CLE needs to be updated in 5 years, not 15-20 years. Cities like Kansas City will go from approval to totally new $1B-$2B airport facilities within about 5 years. Columbus is doing the same. Pittsburgh again reworking their 80s airport into something new. None of these are spread over 15-20 years. I hate when timelines such as this are planned. It’s takes so long that by the time it’s completed the facility will already be outdated in many ways.
July 20, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: ^ Agreed. But this is Cleveland. For some reason, everything moves at a snail's pace. We really need the City to turn over airports to the Port Authority. But it will never happen as long as all the patronage jobs exist at the airports.
July 22, 20222 yr CLE posted its financial statement with the FAA for 12/31/21. Operating income: $900.6K (up from a loss of $37.7MM in 2020); non-operating income $29.1MM; positive cash flow (calculated by me) about $90MM. Net debt $559.7MM (down from $603.9MM). Cost per emplanement $12.65 (down from $28.07). Employment 324 (down from 370). https://cats.airports.faa.gov/reports/rpt127.cfm Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
July 28, 20222 yr https://www.cleveland.com/business/2022/07/what-the-jetblue-purchase-of-spirit-airlines-might-mean-for-cleveland-hopkins-airport.html
July 29, 20222 yr Disappointing IMO. Frontier and Spirit could have combined for a decent operation at CLE which would have increased the scope for something resembling a hub.
August 23, 20222 yr Credit rating boost from A- to A and 87% traffic recovery as of end of June. https://www.crainscleveland.com/kim-palmer-blog/cleveland-hopkins-airports-bond-rating-upgraded-pre-pandemic-level Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
August 28, 20222 yr No announcement, but it's posted in the schedule. Alaska will add a second flight to Seattle next June. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
August 29, 20222 yr On 8/28/2022 at 11:33 AM, Dougal said: No announcement, but it's posted in the schedule. Alaska will add a second flight to Seattle next June. I am hopping the SEA-CLE on Weds for the first time
August 29, 20222 yr I wonder if Delta will be restoring non-stop service to Salt Lake City anytime soon?
September 21, 20222 yr CLE ranks among nation’s worst airports of its size. https://www.cleveland.com/business/2022/09/cleveland-hopkins-ranks-among-nations-worst-airports-of-its-size-in-annual-jd-power-survey.html I really hope they can get started on phase 1 of the master plan a bit sooner than 2025.
September 21, 20222 yr These rankings are silly. I travel a lot and continue to find that Cleveland is efficient, easy, and has decent options for eating etc. YES it needs an overhaul no question, but the worst? Hardly.
September 21, 20222 yr 16 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said: These rankings are silly. I travel a lot and continue to find that Cleveland is efficient, easy, and has decent options for eating etc. YES it needs an overhaul no question, but the worst? Hardly. Yeah those rankings appear to be trash. Removing aesthetics, Cleveland is one of the most efficient airports I use regularly.
September 21, 20222 yr 6 hours ago, mrclifton88 said: These rankings are silly. I travel a lot and continue to find that Cleveland is efficient, easy, and has decent options for eating etc. YES it needs an overhaul no question, but the worst? Hardly. J D Power is a consumer research and consulting firm. I've always felt that they should indicate with which entries in their rankings they have had a paid relationship. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
September 22, 20222 yr I don't know how to link tweets on here, but Kerry McCormack just tweeted that City Council will introduce legislation on Monday "to pursue a direct transatlantic flight connecting Cleveland Hopkins to Dublin, Ireland."
September 22, 20222 yr Just post the twitter link. The tweet will show. I posted the link to the second tweet in his thread, which shows the original and second tweets here... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 22, 20222 yr Some more details from Crain's Quote Cleveland Hopkins International Airport will offer the first daily non-stop flight to Europe in more than a decade, according to legislation outlining plans for a $600,000 grant to Aer Lingus posted on the Cleveland City Council legislation site. The direct flight from Cleveland to Dublin, Ireland, would be backed by the economic development grant agreement between the city and Team NEO as part of a statewide JobsOhio program, language of the legislation published Thursday, Sept. 22, stated. https://www.crainscleveland.com/government/cleveland-city-council-legislation-outlines-plans-daily-nonstop-hopkins-flight-dublin
September 22, 20222 yr Big news for Cleveland! This will definitely be a great boost, and hopefully lead to more international service eventually too.
September 22, 20222 yr Kerry passed along the legislation... AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE Authorizing the Director of Economic Development to enter into a UDAG grant agreement contract with Team NEO, and/or its designee, to provide economic development assistance to induce Aer Lingus to start and maintain daily direct flight service from Cleveland to the Republic of Ireland for a period of three years. https://cityofcleveland.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=5849282&GUID=37DBBC5D-B845-4649-BB39-B644F57DEB06&Options=ID|Text|&Search=978-2022 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 22, 20222 yr 6 minutes ago, KJP said: Kerry passed along the legislation... AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE Authorizing the Director of Economic Development to enter into a UDAG grant agreement contract with Team NEO, and/or its designee, to provide economic development assistance to induce Aer Lingus to start and maintain daily direct flight service from Cleveland to the Republic of Ireland for a period of three years. https://cityofcleveland.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=5849282&GUID=37DBBC5D-B845-4649-BB39-B644F57DEB06&Options=ID|Text|&Search=978-2022 That's cool. Looking at the link from City Council, why is this an "EMERGENCY Ordinance"? I don't get it. Edited September 22, 20222 yr by jcw92
September 22, 20222 yr 5 minutes ago, jcw92 said: That's cool. Looking at the link from City Council, why is this an "EMERGENCY Ordinance"? I don't get it. Almost all of their ordinances are emergency ordinances. Not sure why though. Probably has to do with how shortly before the meeting they are put on and how quickly they need to vote on it.
September 22, 20222 yr 9 minutes ago, jcw92 said: That's cool. Looking at the link from City Council, why is this an "EMERGENCY Ordinance"? I don't get it. To double down on what @KFM44107 said and to add some county perspective: I think a lot of things are suspended or emergency ordinances to get around bureaucracy - for instance, for something to get through county council it takes three readings - the initial where it's referred to committee (second reading), and then back to full council for a total of three meetings. Something that could be decided in 20 minutes now takes however long it takes to get the council together for those times.
September 22, 20222 yr I guess I am being a bit pedantic, but the ordinance probably should have used the term non-stop instead of direct flight. There is a difference. https://www.ifly.com/flying-info-and-tips/direct-vs-non-stop-flights
September 23, 20222 yr I would really love to know the methodology for this. I've been flying a ton the past few years and while Hopkins could use a refresh, it's hardly a "bad" airport. It's generally clean, food options are decent (though could use more options), it's easy to navigate and almost never has delays that aren't either weather or the airlines making a mistake. I'd even go as far as to call C Terminal "good" while A and B need a lot of love, and sure, customs needs a complete overhaul, especially if they're going to go hard after new international flights. This feels a touch like the "Cleveland negatively" seeping in a bit for people polled since most people using Hopkins are from the area, and of course the shambling corpse of the PD piles on with their half baked clickbait opinions. I was curious to see PHL rated so poorly. It's restrooms are too small for an airport that size, but it runs well, food options are solid (maybe a touch light on coffee options), it's clean and the way it was designed give it an open and "airy" feeling so it feels less oppressive to spend a lot of time there. I suppose you do have to fly American generally to get to PHL, so maybe that's it 😁. Just a strange "poll" overall, Hopkins is fine, for now. It's hardly the pit that the likes of O'Hare, LaGuardia or Newark are.
September 23, 20222 yr ...Just another clueless publication that really doesn't get many facts, but instead, continues to push the Mistake on the Lake mantra. 🙄
September 23, 20222 yr IAG-owned Aer Lingus is in the process of dumping their partnership with United and hooking up with American. That makes for more interesting possibilities for AA feeding the Dublin flight through CLE. It also means the other big IAG airlines (British and Iberian) will have front row seats to how well CLE does. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
September 23, 20222 yr 40 minutes ago, Dougal said: IAG-owned Aer Lingus is in the process of dumping their partnership with United and hooking up with American. That makes for more interesting possibilities for AA feeding the Dublin flight through CLE. It also means the other big IAG airlines (British and Iberian) will have front row seats to how well CLE does. I've heard rumblings for the better part of a year that BA sees Cleveland as a market it can exploit for cheap overhead, and an airport that will bend over backwards for them. It would make a lot of sense to see if this is part of a long game to turn Cleveland into a feeder airport. This is a much bigger deal than IcelandAir was
September 23, 20222 yr 19 minutes ago, YABO713 said: I've heard rumblings for the better part of a year that BA sees Cleveland as a market it can exploit for cheap overhead, and an airport that will bend over backwards for them. It would make a lot of sense to see if this is part of a long game to turn Cleveland into a feeder airport. This is a much bigger deal than IcelandAir was I feel like I run into a British person every other week, so there would (I would think) be decent demand.
September 23, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, Dougal said: IAG-owned Aer Lingus is in the process of dumping their partnership with United and hooking up with American. That makes for more interesting possibilities for AA feeding the Dublin flight through CLE. It also means the other big IAG airlines (British and Iberian) will have front row seats to how well CLE does. I would think a Star Alliance carrier would do more business through CLE due to all the legacy Continental flyers (myself included).
September 23, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, YABO713 said: I've heard rumblings for the better part of a year that BA sees Cleveland as a market it can exploit for cheap overhead, and an airport that will bend over backwards for them. It would make a lot of sense to see if this is part of a long game to turn Cleveland into a feeder airport. This is a much bigger deal than IcelandAir was I don't see this happening any time soon unless CLE improves its FCIS facilities, or LHR adds US Preclearance.
September 24, 20222 yr On 9/23/2022 at 12:30 PM, Dougal said: IAG-owned Aer Lingus is in the process of dumping their partnership with United and hooking up with American. That makes for more interesting possibilities for AA feeding the Dublin flight through CLE. It also means the other big IAG airlines (British and Iberian) will have front row seats to how well CLE does. Cleveland>Dublin news https://www.cleveland.com/business/2022/09/aer-lingus-expected-to-launch-nonstop-service-from-cleveland-to-dublin-with-600000-incentive-from-the-city.html?outputType=amp Edited September 24, 20222 yr by bumsquare
September 26, 20222 yr Glad to see CLE getting an international route again. Looks like you all might get tee'd up with the new 321XLRs once they come onboard to Aer Lingus.
September 27, 20222 yr 12 hours ago, savadams13 said: Glad to see CLE getting an international route again. Looks like you all might get tee'd up with the new 321XLRs once they come onboard to Aer Lingus. Hard pass. I'll take my Star Alliance loyalty to EWR and lie-flat seats over the pond.
September 27, 20222 yr 5 hours ago, Cleburger said: Hard pass. I'll take my Star Alliance loyalty to EWR and lie-flat seats over the pond.
September 27, 20222 yr I wish it was more than 4 days per week. But something is better than nothing. I suppose this will be good for Eaton, and maybe Steris. Edited September 29, 20222 yr by LibertyBlvd
September 27, 20222 yr 7 hours ago, Cleburger said: Hard pass. I'll take my Star Alliance loyalty to EWR and lie-flat seats over the pond. The 321LR and the 321XLR will have the "throne seat" which lies flat into bed, plus every other aisle in business is a single seat so you dont have to step over anyone. I think it would be a great product offering for the city and airport https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-10282187/Business-class-review-majesty-Aer-Lingus-A321-throne-seat-Manchester-NYC.html
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