There is not much retail in the city at all. Does the town need a retail/Commercial strip like, say Colfax Ave in Denver?

 

Maybe Montgomery road could be it? Al lthe realestate along it up until Pleasant Ridge can be bought pretty cheap. Widen it and rezone it and the city will be flowing with money.

Montgomery Rd. up to P-Ridge doesn't have enough wealth for developers to be interested. It is close to the 71 though. We do have retail scattered throughout our business districts, plus Rookwood and NOTL (both of which aren't in Cincinnati, but close). There's some really nice specialty shops in East Walnut Hills, Hyde Park, Northside, College Hill, Clifton, P-Ridge, University Heights, Etc. You just have to know where to go. It would certainly be nice to have it all centralized though. Overall, metro Cincinnati's retail seems fine for a midwestern city of its size.

When you say wealth. That's the key. This was revitalize that part of town and draw in new money. Maybe even put a light rail in the middle. Like i said the property values through that part of town can be bought for very cheap. We are talking about mostly residental homes that go for 40k or less each. I can see going through Norwood a problem though, but im sure they would love the light rail.

Which part of Montgomery Rd. are you talking about? Evanston, Walnut Hills? I dont think that neighborhood has the kind of buying power to support new development along Montgomery Rd. and I'm sure the neighborhood would be in an uproar over displacement from increased rents, traffic increase/parking problems, etc. All of that stuff is a hell of a lot easier said than done lol, widening Montgomery Rd. and widening the sidewalks would be expensive (along with razing the neighborhoods....). One advantage our old business districts have, like Montgomery Rd. Hamilton Ave. etc is that those old storefronts are cheaper than space in a new development so it allows a lot of independant startup businesses to occupy the space, and it makes the area more "unique". Look at Northside; wonderful stores that wouldn't exist there if it was an upscale place. I'm not so sure I'd want to see that disappear from the area being more in-demand.

Yeah i'm talking about that whole corridor. Pebbles Corner, that works. I mean it's blighted right?

Is this a joke ?

Do you understand the layout and size of the city at all ?

Wait this is about jobs too. I didn't say all retail I'm taking about Colfax ave if you know what i'm talking about. It has mid to highrise office buildings through the entire stretch. 20+ miles.

Colfax definately does NOT have mid-highrise office buildings in a 20 mile stretch (I used to live off of Colfax, in an apartment tower).  Colfax is sporadic, with random apartments, some office buildings, and your standard Popeye's.

The lack of a cohesive retail strip is something that is unique in a bad way here.  Sure, we have our little strips of boutique retailers in most of the neighborhood business districts, but nothing that anyone could spend a day with.  This shame has been discussed at length among my peers for a while.

I don't know; if Cincinnati had a north high street, I'd fear that it would get all the attention, much to the detriment of other parts of the inner city. I admit it would make it much more convenient though. And give people a great destination serving as a better alternative to a big box mall.

Yeah i'm talking about that whole corridor. Pebbles Corner, that works. I mean it's blighted right?

 

Uh, how about we leave Peeble's Corner the hell alone and let it re-develop naturally?  Little by little, project after project, new residential is moving closer and closer to Peeble's Corner and its glorious buildings.  A mix of incomes, with a residence-over-retail district anchored by a grocery store on one end and a hardware store on the other, with instant access to downtown, lots of transit, and surrounded by wonderful housing stock.  Please, PLEASE, stay the HELL away from Peeble's Corner with your "retail strip" plans and talk of blight.

 

Yes, there are vacant storefronts.  Yes, the businesses currently there cater largely to a poor clientele, with a check-cashing place, and until recently a pawn shop and a Rent-A-Center.  But year after year, a diversity of incomes is moving closer and closer.  Let's give this success-story-in-the-making some time, and not cut its balls off because someone wants to build his Northgate On The Duck Creek.

 

a streetcar line up to peebles corner, as councilman thomas suggested, would make that area explode.

I think there are some nascent retail strips, but they will never be cohesive, the geography is pretty determinative of that. Kenwood is clearly spreading South along Montgomery Road, especially when they finish widening the road to the beginning of Silverton. Glenway I guess would be a long commercial strip.

 

Peeble's Corner developed as the hub of the uptown streetcar system. The numbers that used to flow through there daily were immense. If you could get a streetcar up Gilbert and then send them along Taft or McMillan that might reduce the need for some of the more farfetched plans for tunneling to get the streetcar out of the basin.

that is exactly the right idea for the streetcar. 

 

downtown loop... connecting to; uptown loop on ,mcmillan/calhoun, vine, jefferson, clifton; spur up vine to zoo; spur to peebles corner; gilbert connecting to downtown loop; covington spur on CWB; newport spur on PPB; line to at least union terminal/ w 8th; spur out the oasis line to lunken.

 

all of this would be great, but keep your eye on the ball and build the first phase before the 500 million dollar master plan.