August 13, 200717 yr I just discovered this thread, and have to take some time to come up with my list before I am able to post it. It's going to be difficult remembering the names of a lot of these places, particularly in Atlanta. My cursory glance of the other lists on here make me disappointed to see that no one else seems to have had a drink at either the Bay Horse Cafe in the 600 block of Main or the Phoenix Cafe one block over on Walnut. I never made it into the Phoenix, but I made sure that my final drink before I left Cincinnati in 2003 was at the Bay Horse. Cocktails at the Bay Horse- the mark of distinction, a true urbanist. On second thought we might have had bottled beer.
August 13, 200717 yr Pulled a "Tour of the West Side" on friday night. 1. Wild Mike's 2. Miss Kitty's 3. 2nd St. Saloon 4. Rotties 5. Cheviot Sports Cafe 6. Longshots 7. Wagon Wheel 8. Gary's Westsider God I love CHEVIOT!
August 13, 200717 yr ... the Bay Horse Cafe ... It was closed by the time I first saw it. I think they used up their quota of on-premises murders.
August 13, 200717 yr My cursory glance of the other lists on here make me disappointed to see that no one else seems to have had a drink at either the Bay Horse Cafe in the 600 block of Main or the Phoenix Cafe one block over on Walnut. I listed The Phoenix (and a few places that were worse). I meant to go down again before they closed but I really didn't care. :-) I keep remembering more places but no more names. There used to be a more neighborhoody type bar in Clifton (Cinti) where the chicken wing place (BW3 ?) later went in. I remember some guy coming over to talk to me and after about 5 minutes I realized he was looking just for an excuse to start a fight. Lovely place.
August 13, 200717 yr >1. Wild Mike's Is this a bar or just a wings place? >8. Gary's Westsider Haven't been there or Maury's Tiny Cove. With the recent passing of the Phoenix Cafe and the Bay Horse it makes you wonder how long it's going to be before all of the old stubborn bars (and barber shops) are gone. When I was a kid going to places in Cheviot like the Harrison Grill, The Gay 90's, and whatever that reception hall was right by North Bend & Cheviot was already like going back in time and it's amazing that some of those places are still around. Here are photos from summer of 2000 of Mahkatawah's, which was apparently the second-oldest bar in the city after Arnold's which finally threw in the towel in 2003 or 2004. It was still open when I took these photos. It had one of those copper pattern ceilings that you usually see that have painted over but it was still the original metal. It apparently opened around 1875. Here are some bars that I forgot in my original list: Cincinnati: Willie's Glenway Crossing Willie's Covington Annie's Complex (Kellog Ave.) Some place in a strip mall up in Fairfield A bar on the Sycamore St. hill, one block up from Liberty. Argosy Casino bar Columbus: Bernie's Distillery Dick's Den Knoxville: The Longbranch
August 13, 200717 yr Well Wild Mike's has a bar in it. Gay 90's is now Cheviot Sports cafe. Major upgrade!!! Gary's is a must see off Glenmore. Everyone from other parts of town call it the bar with the pristine restrooms. Cleanest in town! until about 1:00 in the mornin, then all bets are off
August 13, 200717 yr The most notable (men's) bathroom in Ohio is the one at Annie's...they for unknown reasons fashioned a neck-high grotto-type rock formation, painted it black, have water running over it, and that's where it happens sort of trough-style.
August 13, 200717 yr Ha! Haven't been anytime recently but I vaguely remember the trough contest arena!
August 13, 200717 yr It's definitely a conversation piece. As a bar-owner, if you're going to put some money into the bathrooms, at what point does embellishing a trough start adding up to the price of 4 or 5 urinals?
August 14, 200717 yr I remember bars in Europe where the urinal was in the hall to the Lady's room. Now THAT's disturbing.
August 14, 200717 yr Well, if a pee trough is memorable I suppose the old Cleveland Municipal Stadium was truly classic....
August 14, 200717 yr What about urinals that are not only troughs, but are also four-sided? I think they used to have those in the Cincinnati Gardens.
August 14, 200717 yr ^I don't remember that. Maybe you took a wrong turn and ended up in some alternate dimension. Really though for large sports facilities urinals are a big waste of money and maintenance considering how many they need and how rarely they're used, especially in the case of football stadiums.
August 14, 200717 yr Personally, I'm a big fan of pissing into buckets full of bleach as seen at rural bars until the '70s.
August 14, 200717 yr We live in a society where people don't even use the urinal next to another person unless it's the only option (and even some people resort to using a stall). You're telling me there's 4 sided troughs!?
August 15, 200717 yr ^ I tried to find an example of one on the Net somewhere. I didn't find it, but I did stumble across Urinal.net: http://www.urinal.net/
August 15, 200717 yr Check out the Granite urinals at The Felix in Hong Kong-- They're a work of art! With a nice view!
August 15, 200717 yr good lord there's a website devoted to urinals.... http://www.urinal.net/ kinda fun, tiger stadium was in there.
August 15, 200717 yr ^Springfield Memorial Hall had the shoulder to floor porcelain urinals like the one on the front page of that site. A pisser like that just kinda makes a guy feel special.
August 15, 200717 yr The football stadium in Baltimore should be on that site. It's exterior...thanks to numerous visiting Clevelanders.
August 15, 200717 yr this thread went from Bars to Urinals Fanatics!! I guess its within the topic boundaries as the beverage goes in one end...out the other, into a receptacles. I'm open to a lot of things but Urinal worship is where I draw the line! What about urinals that are not only troughs, but are also four-sided? I think they used to have those in the Cincinnati Gardens. Tiger Stadium had those back in the day. It was VERY creepy, especially when you were a little kid. Not only would that be creepy to a kid, I'm a 41 year old man and think thats is gross! Granted, I am against using public toilets in general. Besides, isn't there an unspoken "boundary" rule about at the Urinal. good lord there's a website devoted to urinals.... http://www.urinal.net/ kinda fun, tiger stadium was in there. Fun? What's the hell is fun about looking at a toilet? Bar 89 is an interesting toilet setup and so does/did the Royalton Hotel. But a site dedicated to toilet worship...puh-lease. Where were these folks when CBS backed up??
August 15, 200717 yr We actually had "Osama" mats stolen out of active urinals once. The worst part was we knew everyone in the bar at the time. :shudder:
August 15, 200717 yr cdawg, are you sure you aren't confused the fabled four sided urinal with circular shaped pedestal hand washing "station"? Did you pee in the sink?
August 15, 200717 yr Besides, isn't there an unspoken "boundary" rule about at the Urinal. The male restroom social contract is no longer unspoken :-D [youtube=425,350]
August 15, 200717 yr Peeing in the sink (and garbage cans, room corners, etc....) is a Cleveland Browns fans' tradition.
August 15, 200717 yr I guess I'll refresh everyone's memory as to where this urinal debate began. We have gone from Gary's Westsider's Restrooms to Hong Kong's The Felix. :? Howdy ho! All we need now are some electric fence stories. Somebody needs to start a new thread if this is to continue! (Shaking head in disbelief)
August 15, 200717 yr i like in old mexican bars where you stand at the bar (as any real man should - heh!) and then you can just piss on it and it goes down into a trough at the foot of the bar...you know -- the part where wussies like oh lets say the irish would have a brass footpad bar.
August 15, 200717 yr i like in old mexican bars where you stand at the bar (as any real man should - heh!) and then you can just piss on it and it goes down into a trough at the foot of the bar...you know -- the part where wussies like oh lets say the irish would have a brass footpad bar. OH MY GOD Note to self, never put your brief case or back pack on the floor under the bar when you go out to drink with mrnyc.
August 15, 200717 yr Some jarheads told me they stand in Thailand too. Only when you get your ding-a-ling out, it is't to pee! Use your imagination. Pretty sure prostituting is a legit profession.
August 15, 200717 yr This thread is great, but it would be better if we were all sharing a drink and having this conversation at a BAR. (And this thread has come full-circle.)
August 17, 200717 yr I thought I cocktailed at alot of bars, but you kids party! My next visit home, its on boys! :drunk:
August 19, 200717 yr Not to take away from the urinal discussion, but my sources finally came in and here is my list: Cincinnati: Mr. Pitifuls Main City Bar Cooper's Murphy's O'Bryon's The Brick Yard, Hap's Animations Habits Muz's Zip's Mount Lookout Tavern Million's the Stand Stanley's Allyn's East End Cafe the Precinct Arthur's Mulligan's the Pub at Rookwood Mariemont Inn bar the Bramble Patch Hyde Park Bar & Grill Gameday the Machine Room Club 4192 the In Between Head First Spy Club Federal Reserve Pigall's Palm Court the Albee Havana Martini Club Palomino's Cadillac Ranch Plaza 600 Nicholson's Bay Horse Cafe Jeff Ruby's (downtown) Jeff Ruby's (Belterra) Madonna's McFadden's the Blue Wisp Arnold's Lava Bar Cincinnati Courtyard Cafe the Lab Rhino's Barrelhouse Alchemize Japp's Jefferson Hall Kaldi's Neon's Milton's the Mad Frog Top Cats Christies Inn the Wood Uncle Woody's Fries Arlin's Big Red's Holy Grail Bogart's the Greenwich (on Gilbert), Andy's Crowley's Longworths Alive One Blind Lemon Mt. Adams Bar and Grill Guido's Lounge the Wine Cellar the Pavillion City View Tavern Northside Tavern the Comet the Ritz Yellow House Wine Bar (Main Strasse) Cock & Bull Zola's the Village Pub Jack Quinn's the Waterfront Willie's in Covington Bar Humbug York St. Cafe Claddagh Club in Newport Levee Fish Market in Newport Levee Hooter's Newport Hofbrauhaus On Broadway the Dubliner the Gaslight Grill Lebo's Main Street Bar (Newtown) Annies Sneaky Pete's Washington, D.C.: Mr. Smith's the Raven Garretts the Brickskeller the Childe Harold Saloun Rhino's the Guards Chadwicks Paper Moon the Four Courts the Four Provinces Third Edition the Tombs 1789 bar in Leavey Lounge on Georgetown's campus (I don't think it has a name) Martin's Tavern Nathan's Clyde's J.P.'s the Irish Times Hawk & Dove Bukom Ghana Cafe Lautrec Pharmacy the Lion's Den bar at Mayflower Hotel, bar on Mr. Henry's Red Lion Rock Bottom Brewery in Bethesda City Tavern (Sign of the Indian King) Cafe Asia DragonFly Rhodeside Grill Joes Goodguys Barcelona: Kon-Tiki Bosc de les Fades Sagardi El Dique Bar Binyol Trade Winds Flan O'Briens Oveja Negra Chicago: Fado Sauce Mickey's Tin Lizzie Cactus John Barleycorn's Brother Joey's Cubby Bear Goose Island Justin's Goodbar Mother Hubbards Cans Timmy O'Tooles Ravens 10 Pin the Beaumont Jake Melnick's Sheffield's Beer Garden Ann Arbor: Ann Arbor Brewing Company Conor O'Neill's Touchdown Cafe Ricks Ashley's Scorekeeper's Blue Wolverine The Brown Jug Atlanta: Clermont Lounge Manuel's Gibney's McCray's Highland Pub Eddie's Attic Brickstore Six Feet Under Cheetah Dark Horse Neighbors Hand & Hand Pura Vita Sala the Local The Highlander Dakota Blue Vortex (midtown) Vortex (Little Five Points) Prince of Wales Sidebar Alpharetta Taco Mac Pepperoni's Tavern (Alpharetta) Tacqueria del Sol (Decatur) Tacqueria del Sol (west Midtown) Smith's Olde Bar Asada Brewhouse Pub Columbia, MO: Booche's McNally's Irish Pub Willie's Columbus, GA Caffe Amici the Tap the Big Easy Cannon Brew Pub Hooter's Scruffy Murphy's Cheddar's Texas Roadhouse Charleston, SC: Wet Willie's Blind Tiger Pub Britain: Babble (London) Bruton's (London) Bag O'Nails (London) Bar Marseilles (London) London Bar (London) Medina (Edinburgh) Hollyrood Tavern (Edinburgh) Florida: University Centre Hotel Bar (Gainesville) Market Street Pub (Gainesville) the Moorings (Palatka) Boston: Vox Populi The lists from Washington D.C., Barcelona and Atlanta were not as comprehensive as I would have liked. I wish I could remember the names of the three other bars I went to in Boston, as they all stem from the same evenings activities. A hilarious night (an hilarious night?). I only remembered Vox Populi because the name was so pretentious.
August 19, 200717 yr ahh....the old brickskeller in washington DC. Nothing like a novel of a beer list which still includes natural light.
August 19, 200717 yr >>The hotel bar on Central Parkway just south of CTC >Wow. Can't imagine what occasion brought you to that place. Decided to do a pub crawl home after work one Friday. The place was packed and the middle aged waitress in support everything and Tammy faye makeup was actually kinda hot. This bar has been tempting me since I visited Cincinnati for the first time in 2001 to see Armored Saint and Dio at Bogart's and stayed at the old Travelodge down the street. I finally decided to go there last Thursday based on the glowing reviews on this site. It's called the Pit Stop Lounge. It was slow, but it did seem like the place to be during NASCAR.
August 19, 200717 yr Dio came on the radio just as I read this post, Rainbow in the Dark of course. This past weekend at a bar I was approached by a female (who's wingwoman was wearing a Huck Finn straw hat, btw) who appeared to be about 32 who claimed to be Tim Duncan's aunt. She invited me to some kind of event on September 7th, I gave her my number, who knows if she'll call. Since when did black women start trying to impress white guys with their pro athlete relatives? Well if I go then I'll get her to go see Megadeth on September 22.
August 20, 200717 yr ahh....the old brickskeller in washington DC. Nothing like a novel of a beer list which still includes natural light. Yeah. While the range of choice of beers was impressive, it became less impressive when you realized after purchase that some of the more obscure brews that had to travel further to get to Dupont Circle had been sitting in the Brickskeller for some time. But that Ms. Pacman game in the corner was definitely cool. Of course, I was too busy drinking some slightly skunked Vietnamese beer to bother playing it.
August 20, 200717 yr If it wasn't for rock and roll, Ronnie James Dio would be a lifelong virgin. >:)
October 12, 200717 yr It's for this exact reason that I retired from bar-going in January of 2006. Let's see...almost got in two completely unrelated fights in about 20 minutes, met some questionable women, lost a credit card, that's about it... Phil you will be amused by what happened to me last weekend in Athens. I went up to Columbus to get the rest of my stuff, then I unwisely decided to swing by the alma mater on Saturday night. The evening began inauspiciously at BW3's where I reunited with J*** C*****, a guy you probably never met, but who was no stranger to Athens bar stools 2002-2005 but has recently returned after a stint in his native Chicago with his bride-to-be, who got an adjunct teaching gig at OU. Anyway, we have 3 of the those tall Coors Lights then decide to head down to The Smiling Skull to see We March play. I was in a really good mood and managed to drop and shatter my first Bass after only a few sips. The bartender came and cleaned it up and I ordered another one. Then I talked to a guy who recently got kicked out of Southeast Engine, just a month or two after they landed a big record deal, for getting drunk one night and breaking his right arm. He can still play the parts but just like corporations this was their chance to kick him out. A 9-piece band featuring 3 trombones and a trumpet going by the name of "Chooglin'" took the stage, or rather spilled well to the left of the stage -- in fact less than half of the band actually fit on it. I kept talking to whoever and struck up a conversation with this country dude and he and I were having a good time when We March finally tuned up and started playing. Hearing that band again after so many terrible months of wuss music inspired me to go around the crowd fake-punching people whether I knew them or not and before long the country dude and two of his country dude friends cornered me back by the women's restroom. I could have taken any one of them, even any two of them, but with three of them and the fact I'm still on probation for another five weeks (I've made it through 23 months!) and the simple matter there wasn't anything worth fighting about I got out of there and walked up the street to The Union. But before I forget what was really funny is while they had me cornered I looked out in the crowd, about half of whom were watching what was going on in my face, and I rolled my eyes to some girl wearing one of those mostly white flower print dresses that are all over the place these days. But it wasn't just any girl, it's some girl who was all over me at The Union one random weekday night about two years ago but who has refused to acknowledge me since. But it was great standing there, making eye contact with her, knowing that she still cares. So anyway I head up to The Union where I run into numerous old acquaintances on the sidewalk. I walk in the place with my friend M**** and almost *immediately* get in a fight with some bald dude named Monte. Literally, I just walk in and order a beer, turn around, and some dude who's never seen me bofore in his life wants to fight. The bartender kicks me out in order to avoid any action. M**** and I walk over to O'Hooley's and go find a bench to sit on on the patio. Specifically, we see an open bench on the right side when you're coming up those steps and there's three people sitting on one side but the other side's open so that's where we site. Across from us is another bald white dude with an unbuttoned shirt exposing a big dragon tattoo across his upper chest. He is bracketed by a pair of young women. He leaves after awhile with one of them and the other one, uninvited, comes over and sits with us. She could have just stayed sitting over there and talked across the table but our raw attractiveness was way too much. We talk for about 10 minutes, then a staffer kicks everyone off the patio and in the commotion we lose her. Damn! We go back to The Union where I see some more random people, I manage to lose my credit card, and at some point we leave to go to some party on W. Washington. We're at some place where the back literally falls of a cliff and I only vaguely remember the party before we walked down to M****'s house and I conked out. In the morning I wake up and his roommate, a guy I'd never met, comes walking down the stairs with a young lady I...met at some party in 2005 who I was digging but lost that night to some dude who looked homeless and who she apparently went out with for a year or so. That whole thing crashed and burned spectacularly, I hear. I get in the car and head out of town on 32. Who do I see in the car to my left? That chick from The Skull who I made eye contact with when I was about to get my ass kicked. And who's in the back seat? Her 2 or 3 year-old daughter.
October 12, 200717 yr And all this DIScouraged you from going to bars? Sounds like a good night out drinkin'!
October 12, 200717 yr I'm sorry, but if you are saying that you are like this guy, then I'm happy you're not going out into public drinking places anymore.
October 12, 200717 yr I'm not advocating doing stupid stuff, but watching others being stupid on their own accord can be fun.
October 12, 200717 yr >And all this DIScouraged you from going to bars? Sounds like a good night out drinkin'! I'm done. The problem is you can behave yourself and not even drink that much but just by going out so many nights you almost get into trouble a few times a month just by being there when something stupid happens. I have a theory that for a lot of males, there are only a few acceptable outcomes for a night out: 1. Meet a girl 2a. Get massively drunk 2b. Get in a fight/break something Of course 2a and 2b are symptoms of 1 not happening or being ignored, tricked, or dismissed by a prospective young lady. As I've advertised previously I haven't been in a fight in over 10 years but I think I might still put off the "let's fight" vibe, if there is such a thing.
October 13, 200717 yr >And all this DIScouraged you from going to bars? Sounds like a good night out drinkin'! I'm done. The problem is you can behave yourself and not even drink that much but just by going out so many nights you almost get into trouble a few times a month just by being there when something stupid happens. I have a theory that for a lot of males, there are only a few acceptable outcomes for a night out: 1. Meet a girl 2a. Get massively drunk 2b. Get in a fight/break something Of course 2a and 2b are symptoms of 1 not happening or being ignored, tricked, or dismissed by a prospective young lady. As I've advertised previously I haven't been in a fight in over 10 years but I think I might still put off the "let's fight" vibe, if there is such a thing. That's why I avoid dance clubs. Dudes go in thinking they're going to get laid (like it's 1970-'85 or something), when in reality isn't likely to happen. Then they get all pissed off when they don't get any and fight. I wish they'd bring back singles bars.
October 13, 200717 yr >And all this DIScouraged you from going to bars? Sounds like a good night out drinkin'! I'm done. The problem is you can behave yourself and not even drink that much but just by going out so many nights you almost get into trouble a few times a month just by being there when something stupid happens. I have a theory that for a lot of males, there are only a few acceptable outcomes for a night out: 1. Meet a girl 2a. Get massively drunk 2b. Get in a fight/break something Of course 2a and 2b are symptoms of 1 not happening or being ignored, tricked, or dismissed by a prospective young lady. As I've advertised previously I haven't been in a fight in over 10 years but I think I might still put off the "let's fight" vibe, if there is such a thing. That's why I avoid dance clubs. Dudes go in thinking they're going to get laid (like it's 1970-'85 or something), when in reality isn't likely to happen. Then they get all pissed off when they don't get any and fight. I wish they'd bring back singles bars. The guys that get laid are the ones that actually DANCE and talk to girls. It's funny going to the exchange (I haven't been there in a while, it seems like it's gone downhill) but half the guys just stand there near the dancefloor. >And all this DIScouraged you from going to bars? Sounds like a good night out drinkin'! I'm done. The problem is you can behave yourself and not even drink that much but just by going out so many nights you almost get into trouble a few times a month just by being there when something stupid happens. I have a theory that for a lot of males, there are only a few acceptable outcomes for a night out: 1. Meet a girl 2a. Get massively drunk 2b. Get in a fight/break something Of course 2a and 2b are symptoms of 1 not happening or being ignored, tricked, or dismissed by a prospective young lady. As I've advertised previously I haven't been in a fight in over 10 years but I think I might still put off the "let's fight" vibe, if there is such a thing. It has to do with the kind of bar you go to. If you go to upscale bars with good food, people are more likely to go just to have a good time and socialize. The girls that go to sleazy meat-market bars to get some are usually desperate and not worth having. You have a better chance at a dance club, where at least a large percentage of women literally go to dance and have a good time.
October 16, 200717 yr >The guys that get laid are the ones that actually DANCE and talk to girls. It's funny going to the exchange (I haven't been there in a while, it seems like it's gone downhill) but half the guys just stand there near the dance floor. No duh. Except who's more pathetic, the guys who just stand there or the guys who dance to Journey or the Cha-cha Slide because all the girls go nuts every time those *GODDAMN SONGS* come on?!!! Or techno or the endless 80's revival, which we are seemingly going to be stuck in a rut with for the next 300 years?
October 17, 200717 yr >The guys that get laid are the ones that actually DANCE and talk to girls. It's funny going to the exchange (I haven't been there in a while, it seems like it's gone downhill) but half the guys just stand there near the dance floor. No duh. Except who's more pathetic, the guys who just stand there or the guys who dance to Journey or the Cha-cha Slide because all the girls go nuts every time those *GODDAMN SONGS* come on?!!! Or techno or the endless 80's revival, which we are seemingly going to be stuck in a rut with for the next 300 years? Look, 85% of males have bad taste in music and 98% of females do. They don't even know what music's capable of. It's like never having had a good steak or lobster or a competent back massage. You're not going to find me at those places because the music is so godawful terrible goddamn terrible. This country used to have the best music in the world, now we're Japan or France. Of course all that music is recorded and ready to go but instead we have Journey...AGAIN. All those countries for so many years had to look to America for some energy...now we can only look to our past because the new good groups have no chance. One of the best times of my life was leaving my own party in college when I was about 20 with some girl and going back to her place and dancing until about 6am to Iggy Pop records. Well, you're never, ever, going to hear the great Iggy Pop recordings in public because they're too damn good. It's so damn obvious to anyone who pays attention to music. If "Scene of the Crime" or "I'm Bored" or "Down on the Street" suddenly got put on the system at any of these meat markets, people would run for the door. Getting together and meeting girls should be celebratory, not some stupid tense fashion show with Journey in the background. Or Sublime. Or rap. I almost couldn't contain myself when "Roadhouse Blues", that somewhat overplayed Doors classic came on recently at a place, it just crushed everything that was being played that night but it was par for the course when it was recorded. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwni6UoImH0 What the hell is wrong with people liking Journey or Sublime? Sublime is a good band. They became more popular later on but so did Family Guy. Sometimes talent isn't always recognized until later-- look at some of the best fine artists. If you don't like clubs that play that stuff then don't go to them. I don't know why you expect people to take on your taste in music and think that yours is inherently superior. I'm sure that attitude is successful when socializing with others.
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