I guess they're not so attractive when they're sloshed.  :drunk:

>It's sort of like how people are starting to delete their facebook accounts.

 

I recently devised a new photo project which will be dealing with this core cultural shift which digital photography and social networking sites unknowingly created.  Specifically, casual photographs have moved from being physical objects which could only be reproduced by people with some expertise and trouble to being projected screen images which can be perfectly reproduced ad nausium with a mouse click.  People don't have photo albums anymore, they just throw it all online for the world to see.  With this larger audience real-world behavior is changing to create titilating photo-ops for online profiles.  Social networking sites seem to exist to elevate social status through showing off beauty (or at least good-looking friends) and how much fun and how cool this person thinks they are.  This paradoxically collides with the paradoxes of the professional world, where despite company policies to the contrary, people often behave more childishly than children. 

 

I'm not going to advertise specifically what my idea is online since someone might steal it but it'll be appearing one day soon in an art gallery near you.  I believe that the shift of so much photography to screen images presents major problems for future critical photography being displayed in traditional gallery and book settings...since no art collector is going to pay for digital photographs being displayed on a monitor in a gallery.  Art collectors buy physical objects (for the most part) and without potential monetary return digital photography displayed digitally is about as valuable as performance art.  A fart in the wind and that's about it. 

 

 

>  conservative, upper class, suburban families. They act worse than anyone in college, but they don't want their family and

 

OU students are not coming from country club families.  Perhaps their dad is in sales or something and has a lot of money, and maybe they were spoiled, but it's definitely not an old money school.  OU is a university for the people, not people who were raised around fancy things.  Typically OU students had blue collar grandparents and white collar parents and everyone drinks a lot.   

 

Too many out there, mostly all in and around Cleveland... A couple in Dayton as well

 

Cleveland

1. Shooters - especially back in the day when I was not really old enough... Hopefully with their expansion they are undergoing and the project going on across it will be even better.

2. Great Lakes Brewing Company - Always loved the smell while attending class across from it :) Go Ignatius!

3. Panini's

4. Clevelander

5. Flannery's Pub

6. Corner Alley Bar & Grill - Not a bar to go to during games though.

7. Thirsty Parrot - During Indians Games

8. etc.. etc... So many around the ballparks I love them all

 

Dayton

Flanagan's - It was down the street from my dorm and fairly cheap as well.

Coincidentally my uncle recently posted some photos of bars I mentioned in my initial post on this thread...

 

Riester's Tavern on Cheviot Rd.:

 

The alma mater directly across the street from Riester's:

 

The Knotty Pine a half mile north:

 

Lower level bar and shoe rental in Heid's Bowling Alley (the Heid-Away is directly above this bar):

 

A view of Heid's 12 lanes from the bar.  My grandfather used to set the pins here in the 1930's:

 

The Chili Company, which I think sold beer but I'm not sure:

 

The White Oak Del...okay not a bar but you can buy beer here:

best bar in nyc is mcsorley's ale house on 7th(?)

 

McSorley's...anywhere that serves you two when you order one is my type of place...

 

true that, especially when your choice is left to "lights" or "darks" (that's all you say to order in there). mcsorley's has divey, historic atmosphere galore, except for one minor quibble, the beer itself sucks.

 

btw if you are in ny and interested in old bars, far as i know the oldest real deal bar in all of nyc is the brooklyn inn (outside of the lame fraunces tavern, feel free to skip that one).

 

I recently devised a new photo project which will be dealing with this core cultural shift which digital photography and social networking sites unknowingly created.  Specifically, casual photographs have moved from being physical objects which could only be reproduced by people with some expertise and trouble to being projected screen images which can be perfectly reproduced ad nausium with a mouse click.  People don't have photo albums anymore, they just throw it all online for the world to see.  With this larger audience real-world behavior is changing to create titilating photo-ops for online profiles.  Social networking sites seem to exist to elevate social status through showing off beauty (or at least good-looking friends) and how much fun and how cool this person thinks they are.  This paradoxically collides with the paradoxes of the professional world, where despite company policies to the contrary, people often behave more childishly than children.

 

I was discussing this exact phenomenon just last night (over some OTR Ales).  I find it interesting how even the most mundane social gatherings have now morphed into a non-stop attempt to grab as many photos capturing the event.  The next step is to throw them up on Facebook, MySpace, etc...to essentially illustrate your "coolness" and show the world your social value.

 

I specifically was discussing how some people even go as far to spend more time snapping pics, of the event, that they actually don't have time (or take the time) to actually enjoy the event and actually socialize with others.  They instead make a mockery of the social gathering by using it to beef up their tag count on Facebook and then ultimately discuss it via wall posts to then drive up how many wall posts they have.

 

Hey I've got 10,961 wall posts and I'm tagged in 975 photos...I'm cool.

Taking pictures has always been associated with social gatherings.  People put pictures on facebook for a lot of reasons: to have a photo data base, to remember things you did and people you hung out with at different times, and for other people who might go to school across the country to see them.  There's nothing wrong with having a lot of wall posts or tagged pictures, and having a lot of either doesn't exactly make someone cool.  Neither does inserting that you were discussing the facebook "phenomenon" over beer (!!!) :wink:

Snaps from The Smiling Skull in Athens:

 

There's nothing wrong with having a lot of wall posts or tagged pictures, and having a lot of either doesn't exactly make someone cool.  Neither does inserting that you were discussing the facebook "phenomenon" over beer (!!!) :wink:

 

Did I also mention that I have 524 Facebook friends and 331 Wall posts.  :-D

Union Bar reopens its downstairs section with remodeling well underway

July 17, 2008

 

The downstairs portion of the Union Bar opened its doors for happy hour Tuesday after being closed for remodeling since late March.

 

The project is not quite finished, but owners Lou and Courtney Lenart decided to open in time for Ohio Brew Week festivities.

 

The live-music venue will hold a more official opening ceremony within the next few weeks, said Cullen Beach, who directed the renovations. Beach, also the the Union’s soundman, started the project by ripping out the booths, the bar and the entire floor beneath it.

 

Bathrooms (both upstairs and down) were completely remodeled; mustard-colored walls were painted eggplant; the floor was stained a few shades darker; and the bulky, tattered barstools were replaced. The bar itself has a temporary, plywood surface that will eventually be replaced with cobalt blue-colored acrylic, lit from beneath.

 

Employees assured that the new and improved downstairs won’t diminish the Union’s dive-bar appeal, and there are plenty of nostalgic quirks built in — such as the wood-carved carryout beer sign, once displayed at the front entrance, that was resurrected from a back room and used to decorate the new walk-in cooler. The Union will open at 4 p.m. this week with select micro-brews on tap.

Wooster - Olde Jaol 

 

great loaded potato skins

Snaps from The Smiling Skull in Athens:

 

 

definitely not a chamber of commerce photo you have there

I love how the photo from the kids' party got stuck in the same column as the Heid-away's ad:

 

Looks like somebody spiked this 7th grade luau:

Jmeck, did you go to St. James? If so, what was your graduate year?

Jmeck, did you go to St. James? If so, what was your graduate year?

 

God, you are westside.

Jmeck, did you go to St. James? If so, what was your graduate year?

 

God, you are westside.

 

Give it a rest ... he brought it up! lol

He didn't ask "If you went to..."

 

You did, thus you brought it up.  Now give it a rest ;).

He didn't ask "If you went to..."

 

You did, thus you brought it up. Now give it a rest ;).

 

 

No, he said something about the alma mater, I asked a question (because I can), and I will now give it a rest since I am having the last word. ;)

He didn't ask "If you went to..."

 

You did, thus you brought it up. Now give it a rest ;).

 

 

No, he said something about the alma mater, I asked a question (because I can), and I will now give it a rest since I am having the last word. ;)

 

A). He said something about his alma mater, you asked the typical Westside question.  Thus, of course I'm going to throw a jab at you, not Jake.

 

B). I have the last word...and that word?  BANNED!

Fine then! I'm done!

So cincinnatus, are you from St. I's?  St. Ann's? St. Bernard's? St. John's Dry Ridge?  Little Flower? 

So cincinnatus, are you from St. I's?  St. Ann's? St. Bernard's? St. John's Dry Ridge?  Little Flower? 

 

lol ... actually I went to St. Johns (Dry Ridge), but I have a lot of friends that went to St. James. We were all '99 graduates from LaSalle. I was just curious if you knew them or not. All of the pictures that you posted are places that I have been in once or twice ... or more. I remember going to the Chili Co. a lot ... hammered.

No looks like I'm before your time by a few years so chances are I wouldn't know anyone directly.  I left town in 1996, but did go to a funeral at St. John's Dry Ridge in late 2000.   

I finished up Christmas 2008 with a 1:30am drink with my brother at The Submarine Galley on Short Vine.  There was someone with long hair passed out on the bar, two homeless guys, a black woman smoking crack in the back, the bartender, and us.  Everyone was talking about which was the better movie -- House of 1000 Corpses or The Devil's Rejects, my brother convinced everyone he was German, the passed out person awoke and was in fact a woman, and Foghat and other similarly innocuous stuff was playing on the jukebox.  Anyway, if you've ever passed by this place, it's definitely a place your instincts tell you to avoid, and having scratched the itch, I can't recommend it to anyone living their lives on the good side of the law. 

 

lol. Never a dull moment on Short Vine.

 

The thing about Columbus bars is if you've never heard of a place, you really don't know what you're getting into. it doesn't matter what neighborhood or how nice the building is on the outside. I went to Club Paradise several months ago. It was near 2am and it was totally empty minus the bartender whose gender was highly questionable. I asked her how late they were serving alcohol and she said "all night long ;)". so I pull out a 20 dollar bill. Then she said "You have to pay the 10 dollar cover charge - there's usually a bouncer at the door but he left to go to the bathroom. I said oh, never mind, I'm leaving - it's not worth the cover - there's no one here". Then I got up and walked out and then she followed me and says "For 20 dollars you can have alllll the drinks you want...". I just kept walking lol. It was in the Brewery District. I don't know wtf is going on with that place - I would love to know if anyone else has heard about it. They serve liquor past 2am and they operate right below a police station!

Someone should do a travel guide highlighting these kind of places.  I think there's a market, at least for reading about it.

There are a lot of hipsters who hang out at quote-unquote dive bars, but there's more than a fine line between a dive bar and a bar which is a true hub of illegal activity.  I don't think it's a good idea to attempt to do a website on the truly dangerous bars, because sooner or later you're gonna get cut up. 

 

I do know a guy who was invited to an illegal after-hours bar in Chicago about 5 years ago and the whole place was filled with cops in uniform & drug dealers.  According to him there was no illumination whatsoever except some dim lighting above the bar, so basically what was changing hands wasn't easily seen even by the people who were there. 

I just joined this forum tonight... the list of bars and commentary has been great! 

 

There are a few bars I'm trying to remember from Cincinnati in the days from the late 80's through the late 90's.  Here they are:

 

1. The great dancing place in Covington just to the left of the Brent Spence Bridge in NKY.  Exit from Brent Spence Bridge, make left, then another left.  I don't think it's there anymore.  Great dress-up crowd.

 

2. The nightclub which replaced January's on 2nd Street in downtown Cincinnati.  It's no longer there.

 

3. The alternative dance club on the second floor at the Forest Fair Mall in Forest Park.  I don't think it's there anymore.  It was right across from a country music dance club.

 

4. The nightclub on Chester road in Sharonville directly across the street from the Windjammer restaurant.  It was to the right of Christy's and the Bombay Bicycle Club.  It is no longer there.

 

5. The restaurant/bar in or near Colerain on the west side of town on the top of a hill.  I think it was near the I-275/I-74 interchange.

 

Thanks for anyone who can help!

 

 

 

 

as a visitor to Cincinnati, I liked the Comet, Northside, and C&D

1. The great dancing place in Covington just to the left of the Brent Spence Bridge in NKY.  Exit from Brent Spence Bridge, make left, then another left.  I don't think it's there anymore.  Great dress-up crowd.

3. The alternative dance club on the second floor at the Forest Fair Mall in Forest Park.  I don't think it's there anymore.  It was right across from a country music dance club.

5. The restaurant/bar in or near Colerain on the west side of town on the top of a hill.  I think it was near the I-275/I-74 interchange.

 

1. Waterfront (Gone)

3. Metropolis (Still there)

5. Dante's (Now Poppy's Tavern)

1. The great dancing place in Covington just to the left of the Brent Spence Bridge in NKY. Exit from Brent Spence Bridge, make left, then another left. I don't think it's there anymore. Great dress-up crowd.

3. The alternative dance club on the second floor at the Forest Fair Mall in Forest Park. I don't think it's there anymore. It was right across from a country music dance club.

5. The restaurant/bar in or near Colerain on the west side of town on the top of a hill. I think it was near the I-275/I-74 interchange.

 

1. Waterfront (Gone)

3. Metropolis (Still there)

5. Dante's (Now Poppy's Tavern)

 

5. Correct!

3. Not sure; don't remember it by that name.

1. Nope.  It was closer to the bridge than the Waterfront, and it wasn't a barge.  A smaller place, which preceded the Waterfront.  But I liked the Waterfront, too!

3. Maybe Bourbon Street  (That was years ago, and was on the second floor)

1. Your not thinking of Jillians, are you?  They had a the Tower with different music on multiple floors.

Edit:  If it preceded the Waterfront, then I'm drawing a blank! 

 

Outside of that, I don't recall anything else in that part of Covington without going into Mainstrause Village

3. Maybe Bourbon Street (That was years ago, and was on the second floor)

1. Your not thinking of Jillians, are you? They had a the Tower with different music on multiple floors.

Edit: If it preceded the Waterfront, then I'm drawing a blank!

 

Outside of that, I don't recall anything else in that part of Covington without going into Mainstrause Village

 

3. Bourbon Street is now how I remember it at the time...

1. Nope, not Jillian's.  This place was right on the river, but it wasn't a barge (just a small restaurant/dance place).  Definitely not the Waterfront.  It literally was almost right underneath the Brent Spence bridge.

1. The Conservatory

 

2. Are you thinking of Caddy's Complex?

Oh come on.  Nobody under age 70 went to Dante's.  It was like the Bill Knapp's of bars.   

^Hahhahaha!

1. The Conservatory

 

2. Are you thinking of Caddy's Complex?

1. The Conservatory

 

2. Are you thinking of Caddy's Complex?

 

1. It was definitely "The Conservatory..."  Thanks!

Ok, that leaves:

 

2. The nightclub which replaced January's on 2nd Street in downtown Cincinnati.  It's no longer there.  It was across the street from Caddy's towards the Brent Spence bridge (Ohio side).

 

4. The nightclub on Chester road in Sharonville directly across the street from the Windjammer restaurant.  It was to the right of Christy's and the Bombay Bicycle Club.  It is no longer there.  A pretty large, dark, place...

2. Hurricane Surf Club

2.  was january's the former or the coexisting club with Porky's?  wasn't all that known as "NRG"  for a time as well in the late 80's? 

3. Metropolis is fairly new I think.

2. Hurricane Surf Club

 

Correct... that's what I remember it as, too.  Ok, that leaves:

 

4. The nightclub on Chester road in Sharonville directly across the street from the Windjammer restaurant.  It was to the right of Christy's and the Bombay Bicycle Club.  It is no longer there.  A pretty large, dark, place...  I think it was shut down sometime in the 90's.  It's not Rhino's (I think that is a newer place).

^The Music Palace?!

Oh come on. Nobody under age 70 went to Dante's. It was like the Bill Knapp's of bars.

 

I went to Brentwood Bowl last night and I noticed the bar, JB's, was hopping so I walked by and looked in the window and a bunch of 60 and 70 year olds were getting down with each other and drinking heavily. lol

The old Walnut Hills Bar in Dayton is legendary.

 

which site is thee old original one exactly? i dont remember. is it the one that's tanks now?

 

Someone else probably knows better, but I believe that is the original location (hence the name).  Then for some reason I think they moved downtown, and then to the location at Brown and Wyoming.  Then the owners parted ways a couple years ago and one kept the location and renamed it Jimmy's Cornerstone and other got the name and opened a new Walnut Hills bar behind Nothing But Noodles (or whatever it is called now).  That Walnut Hills has since closed and been replace by Bargo's, but according to the Walnut Hills website, there may be yet another location for Walnut Hills in the future.

 

Oh the memories.

 

Back in the day "going to the Hills" meant going to Walnut Hills for early morning drinks/food after a long night.  The tradition continues at Jimmie's Cornerstone.

4. The nightclub on Chester road in Sharonville directly across the street from the Windjammer restaurant.  It was to the right of Christy's and the Bombay Bicycle Club.  It is no longer there.  A pretty large, dark, place...  I think it was shut down sometime in the 90's.  It's not Rhino's (I think that is a newer place).

 

^The Music Palace?!

 

Nope, that's not the name that I remember... I think it was a single word, but not sure.

>I went to Brentwood Bowl last night and I noticed the bar, JB's, was hopping so I walked by and looked in the window and a bunch of 60 and 70 year olds were getting down with each other and drinking heavily. lol

 

I know the guys who own that place.  To say that place is "all-ages" would be an understatement. 

 

 

the clev gets a shout-out by grimes in this fun nytimes article on the urban hidden speakeasy bar craze, which seems to have swept all across america:

 

 

Bar? What Bar?

 

By WILLIAM GRIMES

Published: June 2, 2009

 

ON a nondescript block in Williamsburg, not far from the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway, a new bar and restaurant called Rye opened last week.

 

Try to find it.

 

There’s no sign out front. The facade, an artfully casual assemblage of old wooden slats, gives the place a boarded-up, abandoned look. It does have a street number, painted discreetly on a glass panel above the front doors, but that’s it. Like a suspect in a lineup, it seems to shrink back when observed.

 

There are a lot of bars like this right now. They can be found all over the United States, skulking in the shadows. Obtrusively furtive, they represent one of the strangest exercises in nostalgia ever to grip the public, an infatuation with the good old days of Prohibition.

 

Their name is legion: the Varnish in Los Angeles; Bourbon & Branch in San Francisco; Speakeasy in Cleveland; the Violet Hour in Chicago; Manifesto in Kansas City, Mo.; Tavern Law in Seattle (scheduled to open later this month). Everywhere, it seems, fancy cocktails are being shaken in murky surroundings...."

 

"....At Speakeasy, in Cleveland, which really does go the extra mile down the nostalgia highway by distilling its own gin, a chandelier over a basement stairwell indicates the way to passers-by on the sidewalk. “When it’s on, the speakeasy is open,” said Sam McNulty, the owner."

 

more+a great prohibition era photo slideshow:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/03/dining/03speak.html?pagewanted=2&hpw

 

 

 

 

Where is this bar?

I believe it's the basement level of Bier Markt.