Burnett woods is actually one of the most frequented parks in the city, believe it or not.

I can understand people thinking UC doesn't have enough trees, being it is an suburban campus.  :roll:

 

These are random pictures I took:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=14138.0

I still think UC is the nicest looking campus, I just think with more trees they could make it even better. We have a lot of space in Sigma Sigma Commons and McMicken Commons where there is just grass everywhere. On the other hand, our architecture is unrivaled :] (yes, only my opinion, I know).

Third place, Antioch...

 

Now you have lost your mind.

 

How come no one has mentioned Xavier?

 

 

I was going to post a photo thread of Xavier.

I always forget Xavier exists. There are some nice buildings.

Third place, Antioch...

 

Now you have lost your mind.

 

How come no one has mentioned Xavier?

 

Let's see.

 

This:

 

(which IS on campus as Glen Helen)

 

And...

 

 

Versus

 

This:

 

 

No, I believe you've lost your mind.  It must be that Mason in you...

I've been there a few times. Kids out smoking weed & making out is common.

Xavier University > v  *Photos*

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http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=14147.0

ColDay, grow up.  You posted a photo of a waterfall and one building vs an aerial of Xavier.  I never said Xavier was the most beautiful or "prettiest" campus, I just noticed that it wasn't stated.  Yellow Springs and Antioch have their place in the ranking of charming places in Ohio but Antioch College wouldn't even make a Top 10 of prettiest campuses in Ohio.  Other than the main building, most of the buildings are crumbling and have a bland look.

Other than the main building, most of the buildings are crumbling and have a bland look.

 

Thats why they have this:

 

 

ColDay, grow up.  You posted a photo of a waterfall and one building vs an aerial of Xavier.  I never said Xavier was the most beautiful or "prettiest" campus, I just noticed that it wasn't stated.  Yellow Springs and Antioch have their place in the ranking of charming places in Ohio but Antioch College wouldn't even make a Top 10 of prettiest campuses in Ohio.  Other than the main building, most of the buildings are crumbling and have a bland look.

 

Sometimes you have to take life less seriously and just play along with Chris.

 

The fact that so many people at Xavier are literally afraid of Norwood (of all places) makes it an ugly campus to me. I'm a bit skeptical of how close that waterfall is to campus though.

Nothing against the university, I have no opinion of it as an academic or athletic institution, but Xavier is not a pretty campus.  It is randomly dispersed across two roads that are inconvenient to cross (Victory & Dana), and they still use many a former one family bungalow on that street that is Woodburn but isn't as offices.  On top of that, the castle motif and light brown M&M color of the main buildings are a horrible and uninspired foundation on which to build anything new that ties into the old.  Objectively speaking, the campus is a mess.

An issue that schools face when trying to lure commuter students from the suburbs, rural and semi-rural areas (which many are) is that they don't like garages. They're only used to parking at Wal-Mart. Schools serving rural commuters, especially, face so much opposition to parking garages that their campuses end up being surface lot city until space reaches critical mass.

ColDay, grow up.  You posted a photo of a waterfall and one building vs an aerial of Xavier.  I never said Xavier was the most beautiful or "prettiest" campus, I just noticed that it wasn't stated.  Yellow Springs and Antioch have their place in the ranking of charming places in Ohio but Antioch College wouldn't even make a Top 10 of prettiest campuses in Ohio.  Other than the main building, most of the buildings are crumbling and have a bland look.

 

Monte, "grow up."  You stated that Antioch College wouldn't make a Top 10 list in Ohio and I clearly disagree.  Attempting to justify that, you go on and say "Now you have lost your mind."  That is a mark of immaturity and downright ignorance.  I never said that you said that Xavier was "the most beautiful campus" nor did I even imply it.  I simply posted an aerial showing why it probably wasn't considered. Sure, Xavier has some nice buildings but the campus itself isn't "top 10" (okay, maybe #11).  While Antioch may have some horrific high-school-esque structures, the "campus" itself is "pretty" (as shown by a "waterfall" and "one building") and it's connection to Glen Helen, biketrails, and infusion with the town of Yellow Springs makes it easily one of Ohio's "prettiest" campuses.

 

Dismissed.

I'm a bit skeptical of how close that waterfall is to campus though.

 

http://www.antioch-college.edu/glenhelen/

I'm a bit skeptical of how close that waterfall is to campus though.

 

http://www.antioch-college.edu/glenhelen/

 

It's less than five miles.

ColDay, grow up.  You posted a photo of a waterfall and one building vs an aerial of Xavier.  I never said Xavier was the most beautiful or "prettiest" campus, I just noticed that it wasn't stated.  Yellow Springs and Antioch have their place in the ranking of charming places in Ohio but Antioch College wouldn't even make a Top 10 of prettiest campuses in Ohio.  Other than the main building, most of the buildings are crumbling and have a bland look.

 

Monte, "grow up."  You stated that Antioch College wouldn't make a Top 10 list in Ohio and I clearly disagree.  Attempting to justify that, you go on and say "Now you have lost your mind."  That is a mark of immaturity and downright ignorance.  I never said that you said that Xavier was "the most beautiful campus" nor did I even imply it.  I simply posted an aerial showing why it probably wasn't considered. Sure, Xavier has some nice buildings but the campus itself isn't "top 10" (okay, maybe #11).  While Antioch may have some horrific high-school-esque structures, the "campus" itself is "pretty" (as shown by a "waterfall" and "one building") and it's connection to Glen Helen, biketrails, and infusion with the town of Yellow Springs makes it easily one of Ohio's "prettiest" campuses.

 

Dismissed.

 

And that is why ColDay is God.

I'm a bit skeptical of how close that waterfall is to campus though.

 

http://www.antioch-college.edu/glenhelen/

 

It's less than five miles.

 

The waterfall is literally a 10 minute walk from Antioch's main building I posted.

It is actually about 1.5 miles From Antioch Campus.

According to Google maps, the waterfall is actually 3000 feet from the Main Hall of campus.  Meaning, a good 10-15 minute walk. 

 

 

 

#3 is the photo of the waterfall; #5 is the photo of the actual Yellow Spring, posted below.  Antioch campus (so technically Glen Helen IS a a part of the campus but I'm talking the academic portion) borders Cory Street.  As you can see, literally across the street from the main hall are the natural photos.  Much like Burnett Woods and UC, though Burnett Woods isn't owned by UC, thus not a part of campus (though in reality, it should be).

 

This also is about a 10 minute walk from that main building:

 

 

Of course, all of this owned by Antioch, making the campus and surrounding area quite serene and rustic.

Prettiest Campus?? St. Ignatius High School in the Ohio City neighborhood of Cleveland!!! ;)

Hey, I'll vouch for the building!

And fyi, I don't know if Oberlin was mentioned yet but Oberlin also has a beautiful campus as well.

Oh, if we're bringing up high schools, one cannot leave out Withrow in Cincinnati :) I think it's a "university" now. They seem to be marketed that way.

And let's not forget St. Charles in Bexley.  That is also a nice "campus-like" setting with a beautiful building.

Ever notice how the annexes to the Victorian-era high schools always look like cartoons (although I suppose a lot of Victorian and neo-classic stuff was cartoonish as well)?  Really it's a snapshot of all the failures of modern design, materials, and attitudes.  I went past an old school in German Village today that's in use but deteriorating and always suspect there's some plot afoot by public school districts to let the old buildings start crumbling so they can build new pieces of crap.  Meanwhile most of the old or older Catholic and private schools are in great shape but people point to the deterioration as inherent in old buildings instead of a symptom of mismanaged maintenance.   

 

 

According to Google maps, the waterfall is actually 3000 feet from the Main Hall of campus.  Meaning, a good 10-15 minute walk. 

 

You can call them: 937-769-1902

 

They should know.

I don't need to call them if Google maps do it just fine.  Why waste my Verizon minutes?

I don't need to call them if Google maps do it just fine.  Why waste my Verizon minutes?

 

True! I'm not on a minute budget so I use mine liberally, sorry!

 

I've spent a many nights at the Glen & it seems over a mile to me, but oh well, been there done that!

"Seems" and "is" are two different words.  Clearly, the waterfall and springs are less than a mile from the main building.  Add to the fact that "the Glen" is a part of campus to begin with only accentuates Antioch's beauty.

I can't say much for the campus but I loved my trips to the Glen

And fyi, I don't know if Oberlin was mentioned yet but Oberlin also has a beautiful campus as well.

 

I think mrnyc mentioned it earlier, and I agree with you both- some really outstanding stuff by bigtime architects.  Plus one of the best small college art musuems in the country.

^Totally agreed.

 

I must add that Oberlin doesn't look so pretty in late February when the wind blows. It mostly just feels overly spread out. Toledo has the same problem. On Xavier, it is passable. Though it doesn't deserve to make any kind of list. Dayton of all places is at least better laid out than XU if we are comparing Catholic schools.

 

Two small good ones are the Athenaeum (seminary and college for Archdiocese of Cincy) and Lourdes College in Toledo.

I've never been there, but I would think that Cincinnati Bible College would have a killer view from their hilltop perch...could be the prettiest view.

Yes they do.

 

One day I'm gonna get pictures.

That is a mark of immaturity and downright ignorance. 

 

We'll take this one offline.  See you in PM.

OU sundries from my personal collection:

 

 

 

 

 

President McDavis:

 

 

 

 

Jake, where is the obligatory photo of C-Dawg with his mouth open and full of white stuff?

^ Nice!

 

errr.. thats twice in the same thread!

>Jake, where is the obligatory photo of C-Dawg with his mouth open and full of white stuff?

 

I didn't take that photo.  In fact I've never met C-Dawg in real life.  He consciously chose to post that photo online and he has to deal with the consequences. 

 

I think though that I saw C-Dawg once when he was dressed as King Fahd of Saudi Arabia at Halloween, at the bottom of the Mill St. Hill, being apprehended by the Athens Police Department for underage consumption.  I probably had my camera with me but I didn't take any photos of that. 

 

Before it was a parking lot is was Italianate row houses such as those that still exist in Corryville and on Bishop St. south of MLK.  So by leveling that housing area churches lost their parishioners and were threatened with replacement by Walgreen's. 

 

I have a huge map a friend of mine gave me, UC's urban renewal plan from the 1960s. The map shows all the parcels surrounding campus, and the buildings on them, back when Bishop St. was the western border of campus and it extended all the way to McMillan and MLK was called St. Clair.

 

The map has certain parcels bolded, designating "to be acquired".

 

I also came across a book the other day called Cincinnati Steeples, Streets and Steps, from the 1960s. It's a collection of sketches from around Cincinnati and there are a couple of what the artist describes as "pitcheresque streets" around the UC campus. One example is Crofton Drive, "a small byway running off West St. Clair near Jefferson Avenue. It is a suburban alley that is unexpectedly picturesque as, warmed by sunlight, the high stone walls, twisting steps and abundant trees throw shadows across the narrow lane."

 

Looking at a map, that street was probably razed for the EPA. It just makes me so sick to think of all that was lost. I wish I could at least see photos of what everything looked like back then.

^I never really understood the mounds that now proliferate on UC's campus.

 

I'm a student at UC, and I seem to remember hearing about the mounds during my first campus tour or something like that. I heard UC gets more funding from the state of Ohio based on the square footage of the campus, and so building the mounds ads more surface area. This may just be one of those campus legends though. Funny nevertheless.

>Looking at a map, that street was probably razed for the EPA. It just makes me so sick to think of all that was lost. I wish I could at least see photos of what everything looked like back then.

 

There's a large old photo in Fries Cafe on Jefferson Ave. that shows when row houses overlooked Nippert Stadium.  All of what is now UC was once Burnett's farm, then Burnett Woods when he donated his farm to the city.  There was no MLK or any street running east/west across (except maybe Corry St.).  It's pretty typical of cities to allow institutions to locate in city parks but in the cases when universities have been allowed to do it, they have overrun their environs.  Old UC was once a very handsome traditional campus facing Clifton Ave. and everything since WWII has been crap.  As I mentioned in a previous post, most universities had large original buildings that faced in a particular direction but as they expanded in the modernism era previous residential side streets ended up becoming the borders of the campus.  Xavier's doing that right now, with predictably mediocre results.  There is no resolution to traditional versus car-era.  The most effective ways to prevent a lousy campus are to either a)not grow or b)require all freshmen and sophomores (maybe more) to live on campus meaning far fewer people are commuting in from their mom's house or apartment complexes.         

University of Dayton:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is this new? It is pretty amazing if so! Great design.

 

Thanks for the UD pics. As long as the arena is avoided, its pretty good.

^I never really understood the mounds that now proliferate on UC's campus.

 

I'm a student at UC, and I seem to remember hearing about the mounds during my first campus tour or something like that. I heard UC gets more funding from the state of Ohio based on the square footage of the campus, and so building the mounds ads more surface area. This may just be one of those campus legends though. Funny nevertheless.

 

I've heard the exact same thing...I also personally think that it adds another element to the landscaping of the areas.  When you are walking through parts of Campus Green with the mounds, landscaping and what not all around you...it really is a gorgeous setting.  You can look up/out and see high rises all around you...very cool if you ask me.

Essentially the state is favoring surburan/rural colleges over those in urban enviroments with that kind of funding mechanism. That really doesn't make much sense. Perhaps square feet of building space would be more logical.

It's the proverbial different colored money logic.  From my understanding there is separate money for landscaping, grounds maintenance, etc...the more area you have of this space means the more money you can get from the state.  Having tight land-constraints, it makes perfect cents for the university to take this approach.  And you are right ink...it is a policy that completely favors the suburban/rural campuses over the urban ones.