Does anyone know what happend to that house with the caution tape up around it? Are they doing anything with it? Shame, it's a beautiful building.

how exactly is Italian Village defined?  Right when you get into the Short North coming from downtown, you see a sign that says 'Welcome to Italian Village'  So is that really Italian Village or Short North...or is the village a sub-hood of the short north?  Anywho, great pics!

I don't know man, Im not good with boundaries; I can't help but define neighborhoods by where certain architectural styles end and begin, as well as other factors like where the freeway cuts it off. Hmm. I just assume that if you're walking up High Street, Victorian Village is to the left and Italian Village is to the right. I think "The Short North" is used to define the whole area north of downtown, up maybe a mile and a half, but most commonly used to describe the High Street corridor. Im sure Chris knows the technicalities.

Thanks!  This is a good visual to go with Kingfishes' "classism" thread.

 

 

I think Italian Village and the Short North kind of overlap.  Italian Village is east of High Street and Victorian Village is west.  Short North is the kind of general area in the vicinity of High Street from the area around the convention center up to about 5th.

 

At least that's the way I've always understood it.

 

Thanks for the pics of one of my favorite hoods.

^Bingo.

 

Nice shots!

This ones for you step2me:

Nice neighborhood!

Where have YOU been, Clevelumbus?!?

there is certainly a heck of a lot more housing in that nabe than when i lived there. it was quite barren and had a lot of empty holes and abandonment. i know its quite popular now -- good for them.

I think Italian Village and the Short North kind of overlap.  Italian Village is east of High Street and Victorian Village is west.  Short North is the kind of general area in the vicinity of High Street from the area around the convention center up to about 5th.

 

At least that's the way I've always understood it.

 

Thanks for the pics of one of my favorite hoods.

 

thanks for the clarification....

Close. The boundaries of IV are 4th St. to the east, I-670 to the south, High St. to the west, and 5th Ave. to the north.

 

The house with the caution tape is a major to-the-studs renovation of a house that had been majorly to-the-studs renovated maybe five years ago. Interesting house at one of my favorite intersections, Kerr and Prescott.

 

IV has remarkable infill. Some of it--especially some nice brick freestanding houses along Prescott--is nearly indistinguishable from the one pre-existing house on the block. Much of the infill is 1-2 bedroom town homes. This helps drive the single-occupancy trend and curb the family occupancy. Not to say there aren't quite a few kids in the neighborhood. We always used to run into someone at the park. Used to...

By the way, David, you were standing pretty much right in front of my house when you shot this.

 

EDIT: My mistake. You were standing in front of Lucas and Tucker's house (two of my son's favorite neighborhood playmates). According to their mom, on Monday, they were chased out of the park by the cops. They just couldn't resist the giant pile of woodchips that up until last week was three massive Honey Locust trees.

Irony check: based on conversations I've had with long-time IVers, the Wonder Bread plant is struggling. Not sure if it has to do with rising property tax assessments, but certainly there must be a strong impetous to sell the land. If the Wonder Bread plant shutters, it will be sad on many levels. The nighborhood will lose an employer, a landmark, and based on the wind direction, the aroma of fresh baked "bread."

(A rezzed-down shot from my myspace page)

I'm enjoying your summer tour of Columbus.

^Thanks a lot. I had little to do this summer; I figured I might as well take pics of Columbus. And stylize Wonderbread signs with neon blue. Kingfish--you know that street with the little park in the center? By Wonderbread and in the second picture... is that infill? You're right, there's such remarkble infill; I couldn't tell what was new and what was old.

 

That park is on Warren near Hamlet. I believe that's all original, though lovingly rehabbed. I love that part of IV, especially that little median pocket park. A natural location for yappy little dogs to do their business.

I wish I knew more about Columbus. Nice pics. Reminds me a lot of Oregon District in Dayton. It's nice to see there's some high quality infill going on. The cyan and the amber house look awesome.

Reminds me a lot of Oregon District in Dayton. It's nice to see there's some high quality infill going on

 

German VIllage is more like the Oregon District, but so is Italian. 

Oregon does have some nice renovations, one of dayton's nicer areas.

To compare to columbus though, columbus has like "8" oregon districts.  8 urban neighborhoods that have seen massive gentrification and infill.  Each 5 years it seems a new neighborhood takes the spotlight as the "up" and comer. 

Right now though

 

The Short North Neighborhoods (Italian Village pictured above and Victorian Village) are in the final gentrification stages where the infill starts to top half a million for condos and townhomes. The upscale final stage.

 

German Village has been gentrifying since the 60s and is in the very very upscale stage, (i.e. retired older couples buying houses, very few rentals)

 

Merion Village is seeing the biggest change. South of downtown and German village, the spill over of German Village has changed Merion Village from bluecollar to whitecollar gentrification.

 

Olde Town East(east of downtown) is still the affordable gentrification neighborhood, the changes started in the late 80s, hurried up in the 90s, but racial issues continue to keep the neighborhood a mix of poor smaller houses and huge renovated mansions.  There are very few "average" sized houses in Olde Town East, keeping only the very well off to perform renovations.  Italian Village pictured on this post has many medium size/smaller houses that led to renovations that an average white collar individual can afford.

8, impressive.

Columbus does not have "eight" Oregon Districts.  Oregon District's strengths is that it's an ecclectic mixture of yuppies, guppies, buppies, homeless, crack-addicts, faux-rich, and old-fashioned hefers.  No where in Columbus can match that, except the old Short North before the whole "gentrification on steroids" thing came in.  That's what makes the Oregon District such a unique neighborhood in Ohio.  Architecturally/visually, only three Columbus neighborhoods match/excel at it, and those would be (obvious) German Village, Italian Village/Short North, and the area of Olde Town East west of I-71. 

 

Merion Village, no.  It's more like St. Anne's Hill in Dayton (wood-frame, some gentrification spillover, compact, blue-collar).

COLDAY man i have seen you throw your mustard around on this thread for years now, and I usually agree with you.

 

I think you are taking my words too literal, what I am saying is, after living in Dayton, and living in Columbus my entire life, to compare columbus' gentrification to Dayton's is kind of off balance.  I mean "size wise" columbus has about 8 neighborhoods, or more depending on how "specific" you want to get on neighborhood boundaries, that are the size of the Oregon District and gentrified or fixed up.  Columbus has many neighborhoods going through massive gentrification you know that.  In dayton they are few and far between, but that's good for a midwestern city.  I do like the Oregon District.

Can you really consider old town east "gentrified"? I know a lot of the nicer homes are restored but there's still a lot of blight and crime. There isn't 8 gentrified neighborhoods in Columbus, more like 5 or 6 but German Village is absolutely HUGE.

COLDAY man i have seen you throw your mustard around on this thread for years now, and I usually agree with you.

 

I think you are taking my words too literal, what I am saying is, after living in Dayton, and living in Columbus my entire life, to compare columbus' gentrification to Dayton's is kind of off balance.  I mean "size wise" columbus has about 8 neighborhoods, or more depending on how "specific" you want to get on neighborhood boundaries, that are the size of the Oregon District and gentrified or fixed up.  Columbus has many neighborhoods going through massive gentrification you know that.  In dayton they are few and far between, but that's good for a midwestern city.  I do like the Oregon District.

 

Let's keep it real.  Columbus only has three gentrified neighborhoods: Short North/Italian Village, the Victorian Village/Harrison West, and the German Village.  Everywhere else (Hilltop, Franklinton, Southside, hell even Ohio State) are either spotty, have some nice areas but generally shitty, or "coming back" ala Olde Town East (which is still not even close of being "gentrified."  What Columbus DOES have over Dayton is the inner-ring suburbs that are youthful and vibrant (Grandview Heights, Clintonville [it really is, even if it is in the city limits], etc).  Dayton city only has two "gentrified" neighborhoods, McPhearsontown and the Oregon District.

My only complaint about Italian Village is that I think it could use some better landscaping. Im sure Victorian and German village are better in that department because they've been gentrified for a long time.

^Then you'll love the new park; it's nothing BUT landscaping.

LAME.

I'd be getting the hell outta Dodge.

Actually no I wouldn't. I bet that landscaping will make a great environment for paint ball wars.