July 8, 20177 yr Granted, all of these cities have a larger East Asian population than Cleveland. Below are Boston and SF's Chinatown entryways.
July 8, 20177 yr ^It can even something more modest, like this one in Koreatown in Los Angeles. I'm surprised they haven't done one yet http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
July 8, 20177 yr There had been some talk about putting a sign on the rail overpass but nothing seems to have come from that.
July 8, 20177 yr Below is a screener of a gateway from a 2010 streetscape plan. You can see it in the background, I think that's at about 40th / Superior. Here is PDF https://www.dropbox.com/s/as3hfjlkbsblvn2/AsiaTown%20Transportation%20and%20Streetscape%20Plan-December%202010.pdf?dl=0
August 30, 20177 yr about 8 weeks into construction on Mueller Lofts -- thought you'd like to see. We are way on track to open June 1.
December 6, 20177 yr I thought you might like to see a picture of the new atrium being built within Mueller Lofts.
December 6, 20177 yr Thanks. Welcome back, Josh! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 7, 20177 yr If you're tooling along the main east-west streets, you might never see this reused old factory in a vibrant commercial building. Here's a couple of peeks at this big building... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 1, 20187 yr I was scrolling through Google Maps and I noticed that the neighborhood has been rebranded on Google. It used to read "Asiatown" and now it reads "New Chinatown" https://www.google.com/maps/place/New+Chinatown,+Cleveland,+OH+44114/@41.5120386,-81.6763593,15.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x8830fa69b0fbcfad:0x4a1f7c5d593f7bc0!8m2!3d41.5116664!4d-81.6711107
February 1, 20187 yr That's much better. Someone tell Mapquest and Bing. Asian is not a culture and the term Asiatown sounds as racist as Chief Wahoo.
February 1, 20187 yr Not that I am some expert in what is or isn't proper terminology, but if you have people living from all over Asia, why would you call it Chinatown? Isn't AsiaTown more of a catch-all that celebrates the geographic diversity better? In other news, I know I am not supposed to promote but if you google "themuellerlofts" you can see our new webpage. Opening June 1.
February 1, 20187 yr Not that I am some expert in what is or isn't proper terminology, but if you have people living from all over Asia, why would you call it Chinatown? Isn't AsiaTown more of a catch-all that celebrates the geographic diversity better? In other news, I know I am not supposed to promote but if you google "themuellerlofts" you can see our new webpage. Opening June 1. Most notably, we have a large population from Southern China and Southeast Asia.
February 1, 20187 yr Not that I am some expert in what is or isn't proper terminology, but if you have people living from all over Asia, why would you call it Chinatown? Isn't AsiaTown more of a catch-all that celebrates the geographic diversity better? In other news, I know I am not supposed to promote but if you google "themuellerlofts" you can see our new webpage. Opening June 1. Yeah, in this case, it's pretty clearly trying to be broad enough to cover the Korean, Vietnamese, and Thai restaurants in the area, too. Though I'm pretty sure the foreign-born residential population there is overwhelmingly Chinese.
February 1, 20187 yr Seems like a there's disconnect between celebrating diversity and giving Asia the melting-pot treatment. I can't help but wonder why the term is so rare. Google found one other American example, which came up in search results as Asiatown Houston. The wiki article it links to doesn't use that term but notes a controversy over calling it Chinatown. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinatown,_Houston Another link muddies the waters further, using both terms and suggesting in the header that there's a separate South Asian district. http://southwestmanagementdistrict.org/10-great-places-to-eat-in-houston-s-asiatown
April 11, 20187 yr Historic electric building reinvented as Mueller Lofts: Apartment of the week Updated 5:22 AM; Posted 4:02 AM By Anne Nickoloff, cleveland.com anickoloffCleveland[/member].com CLEVELAND, Ohio - Before it became an apartment complex, the Mueller Electric building was the working place of Cleveland electrical engineer Ralph S. Mueller. Mueller became famous for designing the alligator clip, which became his business--producing about 100,000 clips and 33,000 insulators daily in the '60s. Mueller died, and the business was sold off. But now, the Mueller Electric building, located in Cleveland's AsiaTown neighborhood, lives on as a fancy apartment complex: Mueller Lofts. The apartments aren't open yet--the building is slated for an opening in June 2018. Mueller Lofts are a part of a rehabilitation organization called Sustainable Community Associates, which previously fixed up the Fairmount Creamery and Wagner Awning apartment buildings in Tremont. Mueller Lofts will offer massive windows and high ceilings in every unit, whether it's a three-bedroom apartment or an efficiency studio. Residents can enjoy in-unit washers and driers and stainless steel kitchen appliances. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2018/04/historic_electric_building_rei.html
April 11, 20187 yr Mueller also inadvertently invented the roach clip, too. ;) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 12, 20187 yr congrats to josh re mueller lofts opening! btw how's the oberlin development going these days?
April 12, 20187 yr Another article, this one also has lots of photos..... Mueller Lofts will offer historic apartments with a chance to give back to AsiaTown http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/breaking-ground/MuellerLofts040918.aspx "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 13, 20187 yr congrats to josh re mueller lofts opening! btw how's the oberlin development going these days? And congrats to Josh for putting some nice finishes in the Mueller Lofts. Nice quartz kitchen counters and white kitchen cabinets and the bathrooms look good. So many Cleveland apartments which were rehabbed in the 90's or 2000's have the marble counter tops and brown cabinetry of the era and lots and lots of carpet.
April 14, 20187 yr Just saw this...thanks guys. We have a lot more pictures on Instagram at muellerlofts. Opening June 1. As of now 35/51 units leased after 6 weeks of showings. Not bad! And yeah, we hate carpet and brown cabinetry :). If anyone wants a tour, just be in touch. I'm feeling the neighborhood and the building a lot. I think it is the best one yet for us.
April 14, 20187 yr Great project! When are you going to start work on the townhouses across from the Wagner Awning apartment buildings in Tremont?
April 14, 20187 yr we don't know. we think what is next for us is the project where the Lincoln used to be on the corner of Scranton and Wiley.
April 14, 20187 yr we don't know. we think what is next for us is the project where the Lincoln used to be on the corner of Scranton and Wiley. That will be GREAT to have that empty lot filled with nice apt or condos and hopefully with more projects added along Scranton toward downtown over the next couple of years!
November 21, 20186 yr On 2/1/2018 at 1:44 PM, 327 said: Seems like a there's disconnect between celebrating diversity and giving Asia the melting-pot treatment. I can't help but wonder why the term is so rare. Google found one other American example, which came up in search results as Asiatown Houston. The wiki article it links to doesn't use that term but notes a controversy over calling it Chinatown. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinatown,_Houston Another link muddies the waters further, using both terms and suggesting in the header that there's a separate South Asian district. http://southwestmanagementdistrict.org/10-great-places-to-eat-in-houston-s-asiatown New Chinatown is certainly not appropriate, unless there's general agreement among the residents and business owners, etc. to use it. Person who did maps didn't know better. Asiatown appears to be the generally accepted name among those who live and work there. We also say "Old Chinatown." I was just in Chicago's Chinatown, which is much more solid, and that is what it's called, even though the literature makes it clear there are the other nationalities and cultures represented there. "Chinatown" is a long, long-established term and I don't know if there's been any significant effort to change it. Other Asiatowns, besides Houston? I know, I can simply Google it.... Edited December 5, 20195 yr by lafont
November 21, 20186 yr Seattle calls their historic urban mixed ethnicity area the International District. It contains separate little areas that are "Little Tokyo", "Little Saigon", etc. But they break out a little neater geographically than the mix of ethnicities in Cleveland's Asiatown.
December 5, 20195 yr 36 minutes ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: It's small things like this that I think make each neighborhood unique. The more of this we see around town, the better.
December 5, 20195 yr ^for some reason, I can't see what Murray Hill said---the text box is empty. Anyone else have this issue?
December 5, 20195 yr I can see! ? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 5, 20195 yr 7 minutes ago, Pugu said: ^for some reason, I can't see what Murray Hill said---the text box is empty. Anyone else have this issue? It's a blocker on your computer / network settings (most commonly...work computers blocking it). I also can't see twitter or other social media posts when on my work computer. Try opening on your mobile phone.
December 29, 20195 yr http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3390&CASE=EC 2019-062 Design Review Case for what seems to be the renovation of a structure into a Chinese Temple at 4320 Payne Avenue.
February 19, 20205 yr Latest round of state affordable tax credits! CHN is proposing 29 new units of affordable housing in the Goodrich-Kirtland area (Asiatown depending on where you draw boundaries but that's aside the point). https://ohiohome.org/ppd/proposals/2020/UrbanOpportunity/FlorianCourt.pdf
February 19, 20205 yr I don't think anyone is considering East 47th as within AsiaTown, but "near AsiaTown." I do like it when "Old Chinatown," west of East 24th and along Rockwell, is considered part of AsiaTown, however, and wish those decorative multi-language appendages would be added to the street signs there too, as well as along St. Clair between East 30th and East 40th, etc.
March 14, 20214 yr Thanks again to @tykaps! SATURDAY, MARCH 13, 2021 Asiatown development could be largest in 15 years Cleveland's Asiatown enclave could soon be seeing its largest development in 15 years. This newest endeavor involves a mix of renovation and new construction on properties used for the since-relocated Dave's Supermarket. The last big development in Asiatown was Tyler Village. On the north side of Payne Avenue at East 33rd Street, the 43,000-square-foot supermarket is proposed to be repurposed by Fairmount Properties and Frontline Development Group as a 45,000-square-foot office/commercial complex called Culture33 for one or many tenants. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/03/asiatown-development-could-be-largest.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 14, 20214 yr ^Great article as always, thanks @KJP. Ugh---I hate the silly-named "Culture33" bldg---I was expecting some fine 15-20 story bldg and was overly disappointed to see a squat one story structure. Even the addresses on the bldg made absolutely no sense. One bldg, one address. But if there is going to be more than one address, in Cleveland, we don't mix odd and even numbers on the same side of the street. If Bowen is who created that, they should know better or put in better effort, unless they figured, why bother, just a one-story bldg.
March 14, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: Thanks again to @tykaps! SATURDAY, MARCH 13, 2021 Asiatown development could be largest in 15 years Cleveland's Asiatown enclave could soon be seeing its largest development in 15 years. This newest endeavor involves a mix of renovation and new construction on properties used for the since-relocated Dave's Supermarket. The last big development in Asiatown was Tyler Village. On the north side of Payne Avenue at East 33rd Street, the 43,000-square-foot supermarket is proposed to be repurposed by Fairmount Properties and Frontline Development Group as a 45,000-square-foot office/commercial complex called Culture33 for one or many tenants. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/03/asiatown-development-could-be-largest.html Hey Ken - great article, as always. One quick note - in the caption on the last picture in the article, it is looking west towards downtown, not east. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
March 14, 20214 yr Nice article. But, I'm a bit disappointed in design of the NRP building. Would be better if they could match the architecture of the industrial buildings of the neighborhood. This would help it blend in with the area better.
March 14, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Hey Ken - great article, as always. One quick note - in the caption on the last picture in the article, it is looking west towards downtown, not east. I do that all the time. Thx. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 14, 20214 yr 11 hours ago, Pugu said: ^Great article as always, thanks @KJP. Ugh---I hate the silly-named "Culture33" bldg---I was expecting some fine 15-20 story bldg and was overly disappointed to see a squat one story structure. Even the addresses on the bldg made absolutely no sense. One bldg, one address. But if there is going to be more than one address, in Cleveland, we don't mix odd and even numbers on the same side of the street. If Bowen is who created that, they should know better or put in better effort, unless they figured, why bother, just a one-story bldg. Are you talking about the Dave’s building that already exists? It’s a redevelopment.
March 14, 20214 yr this is outstanding news. Dave's leaving the neighborhood was really destabilizing. This can only help. re-using Dave's is an uphill battle for sure. Kudos to someone for even trying.
March 14, 20214 yr 14 hours ago, Pugu said: ^Great article as always, thanks @KJP. Ugh---I hate the silly-named "Culture33" bldg---I was expecting some fine 15-20 story bldg and was overly disappointed to see a squat one story structure. Even the addresses on the bldg made absolutely no sense. One bldg, one address. But if there is going to be more than one address, in Cleveland, we don't mix odd and even numbers on the same side of the street. If Bowen is who created that, they should know better or put in better effort, unless they figured, why bother, just a one-story bldg. you are a generation away from getting the rents to support a 20 story building in this neighborhood.
March 14, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, misterjoshr said: you are a generation away from getting the rents to support a 20 story building in this neighborhood. It’s been surprising to me that midtown can attract market rate but this area that’s interesting, walkable, and close to downtown can’t.
March 14, 20214 yr ^Yeah, hopefully it won't be a full generation away, but only 5 yrs away with the big post-covid boom coming! Yes, David's left a void. But I rather see that giant flat bldg taken down and replaced with 4 or 5 5-10 story bldgs---condo, apt, office, condo, office---all five with ground floor retail--shops, restaurant/bar/cafes.
March 14, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, bumsquare said: It’s been surprising to me that midtown can attract market rate but this area that’s interesting, walkable, and close to downtown can’t. can it? where are you seeing that and it is actually filling up? most of the places I know of in the city say they are when reporters come around and ask and then advertise 2-3 months free if you sign with them and have trouble pulling 3% increases each year. if it is happening, it is a rarity, especially in midtown. That's not a knock on the neighborhood or the projects. I have one very adjacent. I love the area. I just think it is a long term play for a solid double if everything goes well
September 17, 20213 yr Grassroots groups painting their way to safer streets in Asiatown, Slavic Village Lee Chilcote - TheLand - Sep. 17, 2021 "The People’s Streets project in Asiatown aims to paint crosswalks and curb extensions along Payne Avenue at East 22nd, East 23rd, East 30th, East 32nd, East 37th, and East 39th Streets and the temporarily re-stripe the Payne Avenue bridge over I-90. ... Rachel Oscar from Campus District said that Payne Avenue is slated for resurfacing in 2023 or 2024, and the project will remain up until then. ... This fall, The People’s Streets volunteers and artists will paint the crosswalks, install temporary curb extensions consisting of plastic bollards and paint, and add temporary ADA ramps. They’re planning on to do a learning lab at East 32nd Street, then complete the rest of the treatments in the spring based on what they learned." Here are some screencaps from the CPC presentation:
February 4, 20223 yr ^ while it's a not a formal gate, i still like the street lamp lighting a lot. it's subtle and very cool. i hope it stays on past the new year.
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