This is to basically get an idea how people feel about this with a simple YES or NO. Everyone has opinions about where the tallest should be built in regards to the beautiful Cincinnati Skyline, but I didn't want to get to technical with orientation, height, location, etc...

This poll question should probably be attached to the QCS thread.

^ I couldnt get it there. But yeah it should.

Admins...

Yes; I'd like to any new proposed towers taller than Carew. I personally don't care if they stick out like a sore thumb.

I dont think many people care if Cincy has a new tallest or not.  I for one would like to see the city have a new tallest.  Before, in the other thread, I was simply saying a city is not defined by how tall her buildings are and that it really doesn't mater.

Taller buildings give downtown a greater presence I think. It doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the city but I think it gives it more prestige.

I dont think many people care if Cincy has a new tallest or not.  I for one would like to see the city have a new tallest.  Before, in the other thread, I was simply saying a city is not defined by how tall her buildings are and that it really doesn't mater.

 

Those are my thoughts exactly...David, it can give a city more prestige...but it's not a guarantee.  Mobile is building a new massive tower, as is Louisville (maybe)...I don't think that most people are going to look at those cities any differently.  They are what they are and a new glitzy skyscraper in an otherwise unimpressive urban setting is not that special.

I don't agree. I understand the importance of a good urban setting but people are still impressed by taller buildings. Just look at how people in Louisville feel about the size of their new tower, or how Clevelanders feel about Key Tower. They would probably favor having more towers similar in size as opposed to Key Tower not being there at all. Key Tower is a huge landmark. If you look at a list of the tallest towers in the world, Cleveland is right up there with giant cities like Hong Kong. It doesn't mean that Washington D.C. isn't a better city than say...Atlanta, but in general people like really tall buildings downtown.

^people only grab onto tall buildings as a point of pride when they have nothing else to take pride in.  People aren't like...oh, I am from New York and we have so many tall buildings.  They're like, I'm from New York, the cultural capital of this hemisphere!

A Tallest skyscraper get's people talking. Just like a tallest, longest, fastest roller coaster does. It is something to brag about.

This poll question should probably be attached to the QCS thread.

 

Lets not dirty up that thread with this nonsense.

This poll question should probably be attached to the QCS thread.

 

Lets not dirty up that thread with this nonsense.

 

Then it probably belongs in City Discussion then...it's certainly not a topic for Projects & Construction.

^people only grab onto tall buildings as a point of pride when they have nothing else to take pride in.  People aren't like...oh, I am from New York and we have so many tall buildings.  They're like, I'm from New York, the cultural capital of this hemisphere!

Im not saying all cities should strive for taller skyscrapers, nor am I saying it has a big impact on the city as a whole. I do think New York City liked the WTC for its height, as it served as a huge landmark and was sort of symbolic of what a powerhouse NYC is. However, after 9/11, I think people are looking at them differently.  I'd probably be too paranoid to have a condo in the Chicago Spire (not that I'd ever afford one), as awesome as it would be to live or have an office in such a tall building.

This is how I look at it...you can have a the best/nicest jewel in the world to put in your crown, but if you don't have a good looking crown to put it in then how special is it really?

 

For cities it would be that you could have the tallest/most modern/coolest skyscraper around, but if you downtown and/or city is lame...then who the heck really gives a hoot.  For example...cool tower Mobile; I'll look at it from pictures because why would I waste my time there (never actually been there, but you get the idea).

This poll question should probably be attached to the QCS thread.

 

Lets not dirty up that thread with this nonsense.

 

Then it probably belongs in City Discussion then...it's certainly not a topic for Projects & Construction.

 

 

I didn't mean to start a homeless topic/a topic thats homeless.  I apologize...

If you are going to build a tall building just to build a taller building, it should be tallest of something. I don't really believe people will get excited over a building being declared "taller than the Carew" or "Cincinnati's new tallest." Top the Key Tower and go for Ohio's tallest.

This poll question should probably be attached to the QCS thread.

 

Lets not dirty up that thread with this nonsense.

 

Then it probably belongs in City Discussion then...it's certainly not a topic for Projects & Construction.

 

 

I didn't mean to start a homeless topic/a topic thats homeless.  I apologize...

 

It's all good.

If you are going to build a tall building just to build a taller building, it should be tallest of something. I don't really believe people will get excited over a building being declared "taller than the Carew" or "Cincinnati's new tallest." Top the Key Tower and go for Ohio's tallest.

 

A 900+ foot building would look silly

Cincinnati would look better with med. tall buildings bridging the gap between the kroger building and the rest of downtown.

If you are going to build a tall building just to build a taller building, it should be tallest of something. I don't really believe people will get excited over a building being declared "taller than the Carew" or "Cincinnati's new tallest." Top the Key Tower and go for Ohio's tallest.

 

A 900+ foot building would look silly

 

Exactly.

A 900+ foot building would look silly

 

I wouldn't complain too much..

 

^Yeah, build both!!!

Is Queen City really going to be that tall? I thought it was still much shorter.

 

Obviously the key is to gradually make them taller so that they don't stick out TOO much. *cough-Ren-Cen-cough*

Just build five or six 900 ft plusers at once!!!

 

Wee!!

Is Queen City really going to be that tall?

Nope,  I saw that pic in the 2nd page of the QCS Thread from 2004. 

Is Queen City really going to be that tall? I thought it was still much shorter.

 

Obviously the key is to gradually make them taller so that they don't stick out TOO much. *cough-Ren-Cen-cough*

 

No its going to be about 300 feet shorter than Key Tower, but I believe it will become Ohio's third tallest building by about 6 feet if built as proposed.

I tend to agree with those that would like to have more, shorter, towers built.  I don't like the idea of having one huge building that contrasts with the rest of downtown.  That said, I think it would be a good idea to building something slightly taller than Carew, because it will get on the local news and catch the attention of the average joe.  A surprising number of people think that there's a "reason" that nothing is taller than carew.  City ordinances and conservative planning are among the explanations that I've personally heard.  Not that they will be excited about a new tallest structure in Cincy or anything, it's just that throwing a superlative out there might make people outside of downtown understand that things have changed a lot in recent years.  Many suburbanites never venture downtown, and have no clue how much progress has been made of late.  This might be a good statement.  It won't change the way Cincinnati is viewed by the nation, but it might change the way Cincinnati views itself, which is a critical first step.

Many suburbanites never venture downtown, and have no clue how much progress has been made of late.  This might be a good statement.  It won't change the way Cincinnati is viewed by the nation, but it might change the way Cincinnati views itself, which is a critical first step.

 

Well put.

 

  Fill all of the parking lots with 4 story buildings first.

^Nah, Jimmy James and UncleRando have it right; do whatever it takes to get the attention of suburbanites.

 

:roll:

 

   Fill all of the parking lots with 4 story buildings first.

 

that might not be the highest best use.

^Sounds like Norm's wisdom (and an old adage not used enough).

^Nah, Jimmy James and UncleRando have it right; do whatever it takes to get the attention of suburbanites.

 

It's about changing perception...if it takes a new tallest, then so be it.  If it takes The Banks or something else...fine.  I'm just for ANYTHING that helps to change the common perception of downtown and the center city of Cincinnati, and whether you'd like to admit it or not...suburbanites are VERY much a part of this region, and their thoughts/opinions should also be heard (no matter how much we may disagree with those ideas).

^Nah, Jimmy James and UncleRando have it right; do whatever it takes to get the attention of suburbanites.

 

It's about changing perception...if it takes a new tallest, then so be it.  If it takes The Banks or something else...fine.  I'm just for ANYTHING that helps to change the common perception of downtown and the center city of Cincinnati, and whether you'd like to admit it or not...suburbanites are VERY much a part of this region, and their thoughts/opinions should also be heard (no matter how much we may disagree with those ideas).

 

This is kind of comical coming from you. I don't recall where it was, but I remember a post where you were very disqusted about the city wanting to serve the needs of/attract suburbanites.

 

Anyway, I understand your point, and agree for the most part.

 

I just don't feel that a skyscraper will do it. If you build that, and they come downtown, what are they going to find/do?

 

I think the Banks is the best bet, it will get loads of exposure just because of its location near the stadia. It also closest (not closely) resembles NOTL, which suburbanites usually regard as positive.

Once again...I'm not saying that the City needs to appease the suburbanites of the world.  I'm saying it needs to work on changing the perceptions of those suburbanites.  We are all part of the same region, and if Downtown Cincinnati wants to be the hub for that region then it needs let those people (who are unaware of the progress being made) aware of what is happening.

 

Fountain Square hasn't really done that.  It has been a great project, but many still cling to certain specifics and use it to criticize the City.  The Banks won't be a perception changing thing until it is 100% complete and proven to be a successful/viable area.  That is many years down the road.  QCS II has the capability of throwing some eyebrows up if it is done, and done right.  Many nay-sayers don't believe downtown can economically support that much new office space or a new tallest.  Sure we get all worked up over a rehab of a 5 story building in OTR...but the vast majority of people don't see that, and to be honest don't really care.  A new tallest would smack you in the face and say Downtown is changing and seeing lots of new investment...WAKE UP!

 

I'm not saying that the city needs to offer unique services to suburbanites or go out of their way to make them feel more comfortable.  They just need something to come up and demonstrate the changes taking place.  The nay-sayers NEED to be shut up!