ya gotta love the negativity in Cleve-O!

It's interesting that the cities with the lowest median income are mostly in the rust belt, but the states with the lowest median income are mostly in the south.

I would bet, though I haven't seen numbers, that the metro areas with the lowest median income are also in the South.

It's interesting that the cities with the lowest median income are mostly in the rust belt, but the states with the lowest median income are mostly in the south.

 

Indeed- which really highlights the fact that despite all of the macro-economic challenges, the eye-popping poverty of rustbelt cities has more to do with intra-regional population shifts and municipal boundaries than with anything else.

Sorry, but you can't compare any of Ohio's 6 or seven major cities to Athens. They are in a league much higher than Athens. Athens is nice, but its a small town. not a big city.

Bigger cities in Ohio have very functional college towns as well, built into them. Only, they're not towns, they're more like neighborhoods that cater to college students. C-Dawg would you like to show proof of Athens' Manhattan esque rents? I have a hard time believing certain parts of Athens have the hottest real estate in Ohio  :roll:

Downtown Athens also has the state's highest rent, so that tells you how much demand there is. Per square foot, you won't find anything in Ohio as expensive as Court Street.

 

Proof please.

Downtown Athens also has the state's highest rent, so that tells you how much demand there is. Per square foot, you won't find anything in Ohio as expensive as Court Street.

 

Proof please.

 

I too am dying to see this! ... Links please.

 

Sorry, but you can't compare any of Ohio's 6 or seven major cities to Athens. They are in a league much higher than Athens. Athens is nice, but its a small town. not a big city.

 

Amen to that. This doesn't even need to be addressed, really.

 

Good point, David.

 

C-Dawg, all of the big C's have good party scenes in and around the universities. If you take the universities out of the big C's, you still have party scenes ... is this true to Athens?

 

One of these days you'll click and I am assuming your getting close to your mid-twenties. When you click, you're emphasis on partying will go down and the lifestyle will become immature and silly to you. It will have a lower standard in your book. If you consider yourself an extravert (like myself) and still hold "going out" as a high standard your scenes will become more fitted to a more mature crowd (i.e. a lounge, or a place where people go that do not care to engage in fights or become kicked out of the very bar/club/pub they wanted to go to) ... I know that was a major run-on.

 

 

 

Honestly, if you plopped the German Village into Appalachia, it'd destroy Athens.

 

And again, it's the German Village.

Downtown Athens also has the state's highest rent, so that tells you how much demand there is. Per square foot, you won't find anything in Ohio as expensive as Court Street.

 

Proof please.

 

I too am dying to see this! ... Links please.

 

I third this.

 

Found some cool info about Athens.  :-D

 

 

07-10-2007, 05:05 PM 

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Athens has the most intense party scene of any town its size in America. There's nothing else like it (Palmerfest, Halloween, Mill Fest, Four Fest, High Fest, etc.), but as a family person, you'll probably be staying away from that. Court Street bars have crowds every night of the week, with Tuesdays and Wednesdays becoming the most popular (big drink specials on Tuesdays and Wednesdays). During Fall and Spring quarters, OU parties harder on week nights than most universities do on weekends. Each bar has a "theme" or regular crowd. Greeks (myself) go to The Crystal. Pittsburgh kids (a HUGE chunk of OU is from Pittsburgh) go to Lucky's. Lucky's tends to play harder rock music. Cleveland kids go to Cat's Eye. Cincinnati kids are increasingly going to Courtside (the biggest meathead bar), and that's also the main country bar in Athens. Toledo and Columbus kids do not have a specific bar, and spread across town pretty evenly.

 

The Pub and 19 South are popular with African-American students and both mainly play club hip-hop music. Both are fun venues most nights of the week. The rock concert crowd goes to Blue Gator (AWESEOME live music venue) and Jackie O's (music is not as good, but still cool). The gay bar is Casa Nueva.

 

Pawpurr's is popular with everyone, and they have the best prime time drink sepcials. They generally play great music during drink special time (Motown, old school)

 

C.I.(College Inn) and Junction are two of the most popular bars, but they have no specific theme- just a bunch of drunk white kids. Skipper's is popular with underage kids and there are 25-cent PBR's there. It's the cheapest way to get drunk in Athens.

 

The alternative bars are Tony's, Union, and Smiling Skull.

 

The town is NOT quite the laid back hippie place like it used to be. Kids are still smoking tons of pot, but cocaine has become the new drug of choice. The wealthy suburban kids are in fact making it more conservative (not in behavior, just political leanings). Still, Athens County is by far the most liberal county in Ohio. The surrounding city and county are actually more liberal than the OU students. No matter what the year, the vast majority of people are voting Democratic. It's similar politically to Cleveland and Toledo (overwhelmingly Democratic), not most of Ohio. Liberal Democrats run every level of local government, and the town's hatred for George Bush/Dick Cheney is unmatched anywhere else in the state. Protests are common, and many Democrats visit Athens like Jessie Jackson, John Edwards, Michael Moore, etc., etc.

 

This is a drinking/sex town, not a family place, though there are some good family neighborhoods. You can avoid the party scene, but there's not much outside that. It's a small town, but a small town unlike any other. If you have a teenaged kid, there's a good chance they'll be exposed to quite a bit of sex, drugs, and alcohol- far more than anywhere else in the state. Usually, with party towns like this, I always say "it's the company you keep", but a young person will be pretty bored in Athens if they avoid the party scene. Athens is the exception to the rule. Just some quick facts before you move:

 

-largest/livliest nightlife district in Ohio.

-three largest block parties in Ohio. One of the largest Halloween parties in North America. Big Athens block parties average 100 arrests a pop. Rape and sexual assualts are common too.

-highest per capita alcohol consumption in Ohio.

-highest crime rate of any college campus in Ohio since 2005

-highest concentration of bars of any town its size in America.

 

Athens KICKS ASS, but I don't know if I'd raise my kid there. It's open-minded and tolerant, but the party scene can be a bit much, even for me. Contrary to popular belief, the party scene is growing, not shrinking, particularly during spring quarter (this is the trend at all schools). OU is every bit the party school it was in 1975, and you still see public sex on Mill and Palmer Streets.

 

I've been in Sacramento for 15 years & I'm sick of it.

 

You're in for serious culture shock. People in Ohio are shocked when they visit Athens by all its debauchery. This town has changed a lot over the last couple of years. It's far less friendly, and violence (used to be rare) is becoming common. Athens has more than its fair share of street fights, assaults, and rapes. Since people are drunk 24/7 here, hardly anything is reported. Athens is unmatched in its drunkeness. There are tons of kids getting drunk all day long, every day.

 

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http://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio/17253-athens-ohio.html

Okay, okay, we get it. Athens is the most bestest place ever...

Found some cool info about Athens.

 

07-10-2007, 05:05 PM 

Pilliod Njaim

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Gee, I wonder who wrote that. Is Pilliod Njaim the father of C-Dawg Njaim?

By the way, the most expensive home I found in Athens listed was this:

 

http://www.larryconrathrealty.com/property/propertyviews1.html?type=R&price=all&school=all&bed=all&street=&lcr=

 

220 E. STATE STREET

ATHENS

$499,000.00

ATHENS SCHOOLS 6 BEDROOMS

2.50 BATHROOM(S)

LOT SIZE: 2 LOTS AGENT: L. CONRATH

PHONE: 740-592-3015

 

LST #: 34

BUILT IN 1917, WITH GRACIOUS FORMALITY. FEATURING 6 BEDROOMS, SUNSHINE SPLASHED READING ROOM, DINNER PARTY SIZED DINING ROOM WITH BUTLERS PANTRY, BRAND NEW KITCHEN, LEADED WINDOWS, 5 FIREPLACES, HARDWOOD FLOORS AND PLASTER WALLS, EUROPEAN TERRACE, A JEWEL OF A POOL, LARGE PLAYFUL YARD, WALK TO EAST SIDE SCHOOL AND OHIO UNIVERSITY.

 

 

Now maybe as an average, Athens has the highest real estate prices in Ohio. But I seriously doubt it if this is your most expensive home, and the prices drop off rapidly into the 200s after this. Please show me proof rather than scuttlebutt you may have heard someplace that didn't involve alcohol.

^ To be fair, C-Dawg claimed that "downtown Athens has the state's highest rents".

 

Which I don't believe.

 

^ To be fair, C-Dawg claimed that "downtown Athens has the state's highest rents".

 

Which I don't believe.

 

 

Well, the market value of a house should have some reflection on what the rent might be.

 

C-Dawg, we're all still waiting for a few URL's to these rentals???

That's very interesting!

That's very interesting!

Very interestingly FALSE!

So basically, Lexington's doing the best, Youngstown the worst.

So basically, Lexington's doing the best, Youngstown the worst.

 

Why would they be doing the 'best' when their metro has the highest amount in poverty?

^that is a good point, they do have the lowest income inequality

 

it looks like, from the msa perspective, Pburg and Cnati are doing the best

I noticed Evergrey is pulling back on his comments, from the multiple blast from the Clevelanders!  :shoot:  :yap:

^Who has blasted Evergrey?

^Who has blasted Evergrey?

 

Just search for Evergrey's comments and then click on the threads. You'll see them.

The difference between Lexington and Youngstown is a no-brainer.

I do believe your talking out of your ass or  :drunk:....anyways back on track...those numbers are all very depressing.

^Who me? Lexington is a breeding ground of intellectual activity; Youngstown has a MOB (or had one).

no...your right though; even the mob left Ytown...and I think Lexingtons breeding ground is only applicable to horses.

So basically, Lexington's doing the best, Youngstown the worst.

 

Lexington isn't a fair comparison to any Ohio city as the "city" there is all of Fayette County due to their urban county government system. 

 

 

no...your right though; even the mob left Ytown...and I think Lexingtons breeding ground is only applicable to horses.

Well yeah, but then you have that whole university thing.

So basically, Lexington's doing the best, Youngstown the worst.

 

Why would they be doing the 'best' when their metro has the highest amount in poverty?

 

Because they have the most even amount of poverty with city and metro, since Lexington is basically half of their metro to begin with.

^Stole the words right out of my mouth...the cities with the largest disparities are also the ones that seem to have the most fragmented metropolitan areas.

All that's being shown here is a disparity between levels of poverty in MSA boundaries vs Municipal boundaries.  It says nothing about actual income disparity among individuals.  It says nothing about geographic concentration of poverty(we don't know how the poverty is distributed throughout the two geographic areas specified).  Lexington may have the highest amount of income disparity and the worst concentrations of poverty of all of those cities.  Certainly there is the most poverty there per capita, as attested by the highest MSA poverty rank.

^Stole the words right out of my mouth...the cities with the largest disparities are also the ones that seem to have the most fragmented metropolitan areas.

 

that is bordering on a tautology

^You're bordering on tautology.

^that is a good point, they do have the lowest income inequality

 

One major reason for this is that the City of Lexington comprises 64.1% of its MSA.  The City of Youngstown only comprises 13.8% of its MSA.  City boundaries are quite arbitrary and the nature of municipal governance varies vastly from one location to the next.  MSA comparison is much more relevant.  And in case anyone was wondering why these 9 cities were compared... they are the top 9 MSAs in the Fourth District of the Federal Reserve.

Hey Buckeye,

 

Since bloggers are always accurate, here is me posting something true...you're an illiterate twerp with no redeeming quality LMAO!!!

You're dismissed. Take 90 days to decide whether you want to contribute anything to this forum other than insults.

ha!  Oh no he didn't. 

Wow!  that came out of left field.