September 25, 200717 yr No! Its hilarious! They make it so dramatic, the sad thing is, people actually tune in at 11. Am I over the top with all of my posts or something? lol
October 15, 200717 yr Crime down in city Safety top issue to candidates, voters BY JANE PRENDERGAST | CINCINNATI ENQUIRER October 15, 2007 CINCINNATI - In case you hadn't noticed, it's election time - and many Cincinnati council candidates are focusing on the same thing: crime. Two already bought television time to air their ads about it. Jeff Berding's talks about hiring more police officers and promises to keep his kids and yours safe. Charlie Winburn went more high-drama, using the sound of gunshots to show what could happen throughout the city if he's not elected.
October 15, 200717 yr Can mayor Mark Mallory receive any credit for this? Opinions encouraged! YES! but it is not entirely deserved.
October 15, 200717 yr Can mayor Mark Mallory receive any credit for this? Opinions encouraged! YES! but it is not entirely deserved. If you had to point to just one person (even though that is impossible), who would you give credit to? Only one!
October 16, 200717 yr Great news! These are very promising stats and I give props to all involved from the police to the community groups, but I wish District 3 would have shown a decrease. There is still a lot of work to be done in the western communities. I wouldn't consider this a complete and total success until we get all what, (52) neighborhoods on board.
October 16, 200717 yr If you had to point to just one person (even though that is impossible), who would you give credit to? Only one! 3CDC (and I am only speaking for OTR) but saying them alone is not entirely true however they are the impetus for all of the change, crime and otherwise. If that is not true, then why did we not see OTR turn around before, if it was as easy at simply putting more police on the street? This is not to discount the police, but I believe Capt. Jones would be the first to say that without development, greater enforcement is a containment measure, not an elimination or eradication one.
October 30, 200717 yr Crime Stats: Part Is 2007 (symetrical projections jan-sept") district 1: 4558 D2: 4442 D3: 7206 D4: 5812 D5: 5183 total: 27,202 % larceny: 52% 2006 1: 4420 2: 4411 3: 7342 4: 5626 5: 5050 total: 26,849 % larceny: 52% 2005 1: 5442 2: 3968 3: 7296 4: 5663 5: 4876 total: 27,245 % larceny: 53%
October 30, 200717 yr Scotland Yard learning from Cincy BY KIMBALL PERRY | CINCINNATI ENQUIER October 30, 2007 CINCINNATI - Sitting in a London seminar, representatives from fabled Scotland Yard were asking how to reduce violence. They were told the answer was in Cincinnati.
November 1, 200717 yr These senseless crimes *&*^ me off! These two events can't be good for the reputation of downtown. Does anyone know what club this was? http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20071101/NEWS01/311010005/ http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20071101/NEWS01/311010014/
November 1, 200717 yr Just curious if it was one of the new clubs that recently opened like club bang or club red? Point being that it may hurt the clubs attendence down the road if word gets out that someone was shot outside the club.
November 1, 200717 yr ^Why does the club matter? It happend outside the club. Right now, the media is not giving many details about the incident. If the shooting is related to anything that happened inside the club, then the club definitely matters. Just curious if it was one of the new clubs that recently opened like club bang or club red? Bang is on 4th Street.
November 1, 200717 yr 10 to 12 years old! Maybe the media should print the names of the parents or guardians. And find out how the hell a 10-12 year old can even get there hands on a (legal or most likely illegal) gun!
November 1, 200717 yr The robbery with the 10 and 12 year old scares the crap out of me. My apartment actually looks down at that intersection, and I probably cross it 10+ times a day, including last night right around that time. Oh wait, they said Race and 8th (and their map points to Race and 7th), that intersection doesn't technically exist. Whew!
November 1, 200717 yr club red was the only one open. channel 19 reports.... "It happened Thursday morning just after 1 a.m. at 12th and Main Streets, just down the street from Club Red."
November 1, 200717 yr ^Why does the club matter? It happend outside the club. Because bars & clubs are responsible for the types of crowds they attract and the element that they bring into the neighborhoods where they operate.
November 1, 200717 yr ^Might as well close all bars and clubs since they bring ELEMENTS to the neighborhoods. Again this happend outside. The guy that shot them might not have even been in side the club at all, but just walking by to take advantage of someone who's drunk.
November 1, 200717 yr Lets not get ahead of ourselves here Might as well close all bars and clubs since they bring ELEMENTS to the neighborhoods. They bring positive elements as well, but Red has been warned repeatedly about doing such programming as "teen night" We have responsible bar owners on the street as well and they should be applauded for their efforts but the irresponsible ones should be held accountable.
November 1, 200717 yr I think the robbery by the 10 and 12 year olds is definitely the scarier event of the two, because it was a random event that could really happen to anyone.
November 1, 200717 yr because it was a random event that could really happen to anyone. Random and extraordinarily rare.
November 2, 200717 yr Random and extraordinarily rare. Oh, I know it's extremely rare, but troubling still, no? unlike fatal auto accidents which are random and exceedingly common That is different and you know it. We've had this conversation before, I'm almost positive. An attack, robbery, rape, murder, etc. are all done to someone and could be avoided. Car accidents are just that, accidents and really can't be avoided.
November 2, 200717 yr I would much rather be robbed by a 12 year old than be a a fatal auto accident. Here is my quesiton, why is it that when a shooting happens at 17th and main people say, "oh my gosh, I was at 17th and main two hours before the shooting, that could have been me" but when there is a fatal wreck on I-75, I-275, etc, no one reacts in the same way writing off the lives of 42,000 americans a year as inevitable is the sad state of affairs we find ourselves in car accidents can be avoided. Make getting a driver's liscence as difficult as getting a liscence to fly a plane, have zero tolerance drunk driving. Make cell phone use when driving illegal. Lower the speed limit. Reduce vehicle miles traveled. all of those reduce auto fatalities. Charge vehicular homicide the same as regular homicide (and anyone who opposes that suggestion and also opposes hate crime legislation finds themselves in a logical paradox)
November 2, 200717 yr Oddly enough, I'm not sure I agree. There are definitely places driving around down that when I drive past I think "There but by grace of God go I", going down the cut in the hill in the rain can be just plain scary with trucks around you.
November 2, 200717 yr I would much rather be robbed by a 12 year old than be a a fatal auto accident. Here is my quesiton, why is it that when a shooting happens at 17th and main people say, "oh my gosh, I was at 17th and main two hours before the shooting, that could have been me" but when there is a fatal wreck on I-75, I-275, etc, no one reacts in the same way writing off the lives of 42,000 americans a year as inevitable is the sad state of affairs we find ourselves in car accidents can be avoided. Make getting a driver's liscence as difficult as getting a liscence to fly a plane, have zero tolerance drunk driving. Make cell phone use when driving illegal. Lower the speed limit. Reduce vehicle miles traveled. all of those reduce auto fatalities. Charge vehicular homicide the same as regular homicide (and anyone who opposes that suggestion and also opposes hate crime legislation finds themselves in a logical paradox) Well I can't speak for everyone, but when I hear about accidents where I had just driven through, I think that could have been me.
November 2, 200717 yr Make getting a driver's liscence as difficult as getting a liscence to fly a plane, have zero tolerance drunk driving. :clap: But isn't it a god given right! I am sure the constitution references the right for every American to drive a vehicle, even the illegal immigrants! :wink:
November 2, 200717 yr Well I can't speak for everyone, but when I hear about accidents where I had just driven through, I think that could have been me. I do too.
November 2, 200717 yr http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071102/NEWS01/711020425 That's frightening. ^The reason folks don't think of auto accidents the same way is that they feel a sense of control and self determination behind the wheel. Everybody is Jeff Gordon behind the wheel. And I'm Nicky Hayden.
November 2, 200717 yr ^Might as well close all bars and clubs since they bring ELEMENTS to the neighborhoods. You're right that this could be totally random and unrelated to the club, but bars and clubs have to be responsible for the people they are bringing into a neighborhood. If my next door neighbor has a party at his house and one of his guests throws a bottle through my front window, I would consider him a bad neighbor for not controlling the people he invited over. Sure - my neighbor didn't actually throw the bottle - but the guy that did would not have been in my neighborhood if my neighbor didn't invite him. If you want to run a bar in a residential area (urban or otherwise) an important component of that is not pissing off the people that live around your business - ask the owners of R.P. McMurphys. The people of Oakley did not appreciate the rowdy ELEMENT that they brought in.
November 2, 200717 yr writing off the lives of 42,000 americans a year as inevitable is the sad state of affairs we find ourselves in The difference in robbery and car accident is simple....Intentional Crime/Accident. Now if people begin intentionally playing bumper cars on the highways I would say your point is valid on this particular thread. bars and clubs have to be responsible for the people they are bringing into a neighborhood. I agree however we should not just limit this to bars and clubs, many things and organizations help enable the criminal element in the neighborhood and should be held responsible.
November 5, 200717 yr Note to self: "DO NOT RUN WHEN GETTING ROBBED" How many times have we heard this same story in recent weeks? Man shot fleeing robber BY JENNIFER BAKER | [email protected] E-mail | Print | digg us! | del.icio.us! | Click-2-Listen OVER-THE-RHINE – A man was shot late Sunday while trying to flee a masked gunman trying to rob him, Cincinnati police said today. The victim, 23, was shot in the buttocks about 10:20 p.m. on Elder Street, police emergency communication reports state. Twenty minutes later, University Hospital notified police of the shooting when the victim arrived at the hospital in a private vehicle, police said. The suspect is 5-foot-11 and wore all black clothing and a black mask, police said. The Enquirer will update this story as information develops.
November 12, 200717 yr Figured I would post this since Michael mentioned that members of the Main St community have expressed their concerns about teen events to the owners of Club Red Teen party floods streets BY JENNIFER BAKER | [email protected] OVER-THE-RHINE – Dozens of teens gathered – and some fought - in Over-the-Rhine’s Main Street night club area late Sunday, forcing Cincinnati police to call in extra help and temporarily close off streets. No one was arrested or injured in the 10:45 p.m. incident as teens left a party at Club Red, 209 E. 12th St., a Cincinnati police and fire dispatcher said. A crowd of youth crowded into the intersection of Main and 12th streets, forcing police to shut down Main Street just north of Central Parkway.
November 27, 200717 yr I pretty much completely disagree with this letter, but what caught my attention was the mention of a mere 106 social service agencies in OTR. I thought there were nearly 200+. Progress? Her argument goes down the tubes when you already have 100+ agencies attending to the homeless every need. GIVE MORE TO HELP HOMELESS, HUNGRY With 106 social service agencies in 103 blocks of OTR, there are bigger issues than where the next meal is coming from. Cheryl Crowell, East Walnut Hills To read more: http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071127/EDIT0202/711270319/1022/all
November 28, 200717 yr Prosecutor Declares Open Season On Armed Robbers Deborah Dixon, Local 12. Last Update: 6:33 pm The Hamilton County Prosecutor has a warning for robbers, if you walk into a business with a gun, be prepared for the consequences. Three times this month store owners shot at robbers in their businesses. In North College Hill, store owner Christopher Spencer was killed by the man trying to rip off his clothing store. As for the the other businessmen who shot back? http://www.local12.com/content/crimestoppers/story.aspx?content_id=5b637655-00c7-4895-9d3f-a7936ba1e5ad
November 28, 200717 yr I am so sick of the FOP's ego issues :x I fully support CPD, but Over-the-Rhine needs all the help it can get. I'm cautiously optimistic that we will be able retain the patrols (based on last night's and tonight's public budget meetings, as well as private discussions). -- http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071128/NEWS01/711280410/1056/COL02 Cincinnati cops: OTR is our turf BY KIMBALL PERRY | [email protected] Cincinnati police are adamantly against any other law-enforcement agency patrolling city streets, the head of the Cincinnati police union said Tuesday. "We're very opposed to (Hamilton County sheriff's deputies) coming into the city. I don't care what neighborhood," said Kathy Harrell, president of the Fraternal Order of Police Queen City Lodge, No. 69, the union that represents about 1,100 Cincinnati officers.
November 28, 200717 yr Deters said that goes for Nassar, who shot at his robber as he ran through the streets. This is not okay. Why did Deters have to come back to town?
November 28, 200717 yr Some awesome news! -- http://www.local12.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=38668fdd-af15-41ca-a203-976a945a37c3 Building Owner Shuts Down Troubled Club Red Last Update: 8:35 am An Over-the-Rhine nightclub that's run into problems because of fights and code violations is now closed for good.
November 28, 200717 yr We have some great operators in all of the surrounding clubs and this is the last of the problems. This is a major development for Main and will go a long way in helping us achieve our goals of a safe and clean district.
December 4, 200717 yr I've never been to club red, but always heard that it's troubled place. Does anyone know any info about a new bar\club that opened called club que? From what I heard, it's kind of a pool lounge?
December 4, 200717 yr I've never been to club red, but always heard that it's troubled place. Does anyone know any info about a new bar\club that opened called club que? From what I heard, it's kind of a pool lounge? Actually it is CUE. Great place, more layed back than your typical club and there are two pool tables up front. This is the first in a series of new openings including SpeakEasy and Pizza Bar. The rest of the clubs and bars on Main are very different from both Red and Dream. These were the last two of the bad apples on the street.
December 4, 200717 yr I googled club cue cincinnati and can't find any info. Do you know of a website or where I can find info?
December 5, 200717 yr You can access CUE's page off of a link from the Cincinnati USA site under nightlife.
December 5, 200717 yr From UC's crime alert: [glow=yellow,2,300]District Five investigators working with the University of Cincinnati Police Department have determined that the aggravated burglary/felonious assault offense that occurred November 29 on Dennis Street at University Park Apartments was not a random event but connected to illegal drug activity.[/glow] A second person has now been charged in connection with the incident. Investigators are working to identify two additional suspects involved in this offense. The UC Police also have a "tip" line to receive information about criminal activity. That number is 556-COPS (2677). Eugene R. Ferrara Associate Vice President for Administration and Finance Division Director of Public Safety/Police Chief University of Cincinnati Tel. (513) 556-4951 Fax (513) 556-4940
December 5, 200717 yr It was so clear from the first reports and knowing the UC area that this wasn't 'normal.' I figured it was either a drug deal gone bad or something like this. I can't say I feel sorry for the guys who were robbed. They are also probably going to get expelled.
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