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I'm an advocate for liberalizing the death penalty but then I'm just a pro-death kinda guy...

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  • ryanlammi
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    There's not really any indication that it was a direct gift from Mussolini. It's been reported that a local organization sent a letter to request a statue to Mussolini. He approved of the idea, and it

  • 8:46pm is hardly the afternoon. Very little crime like this is random. It's almost always people who know each other. There's not much of a need to use more precaution than you typically would when li

  • DEPACincy
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    I fail to see how blaring classical music to run people off is going to help OTR business owners or its reputation as a popular destination spot.    Seriously, what are you basing this "OTR

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Sure, but if someone is a repeat violent offender, finally saying "enough is enough" is preventing him from future violent crimes. 

 

My argument is how to prevent the desire to commit a violent crime is a more proactive and potentially successful measure than a Three Strikes law that has been proven to not deter crime.  The amount of violent offenders in the country is incredible considering how controlled American society is.  No other nation puts as many resources into law enforcement and surveillance. 

 

If the idea of going to prison for 25 years doesn't prevent the desire to commit a violent crime, then what will? It's a shame that certain aspects of American culture have helped to create people so obtuse that they just can't stop being violent, but until there are any actual alternatives I don't have any reason not to support a three strikes law. 

and there's always torture

also, with increased executions, displaying the corpse on stakes or hanging from bridges is always a good reminder.

I oppose a 3-strikes policy because it is possible for people to be screwed over legally three times, especially since most people who find themselves in such a position can't hire a lawyer. 

Sure, but if someone is a repeat violent offender, finally saying "enough is enough" is preventing him from future violent crimes. 

 

My argument is how to prevent the desire to commit a violent crime is a more proactive and potentially successful measure than a Three Strikes law that has been proven to not deter crime.  The amount of violent offenders in the country is incredible considering how controlled American society is.  No other nation puts as many resources into law enforcement and surveillance. 

 

There's a difference between crime "deterrence" and crime "prevention."  You said earlier that you wanted things that would "prevent" crime.  I agree that societal improvements that reduce crime, improve the economy, etc. are preferable to later methods like three strikes laws.  At the same time, if someone is already a hardened (violent) criminal, it is unfortunately too late, and the only real option for "preventing" future crime by that individual seems to be locking them up. 

Sure, but if someone is a repeat violent offender, finally saying "enough is enough" is preventing him from future violent crimes. 

 

My argument is how to prevent the desire to commit a violent crime is a more proactive and potentially successful measure than a Three Strikes law that has been proven to not deter crime.  The amount of violent offenders in the country is incredible considering how controlled American society is.  No other nation puts as many resources into law enforcement and surveillance. 

 

There's a difference between crime "deterrence" and crime "prevention."  You said earlier that you wanted things that would "prevent" crime.  I agree that societal improvements that reduce crime, improve the economy, etc. are preferable to later methods like three strikes laws.  At the same time, if someone is already a hardened (violent) criminal, it is unfortunately too late, and the only real option for "preventing" future crime by that individual seems to be locking them up.

 

Perfectly said. Increase diversion programs for youth and first time offenders to try to decrease recidivism, but also add three strikes. This guy who was just killed was NEVER going to change.

and there's always torture

also, with increased executions, displaying the corpse on stakes or hanging from bridges is always a good reminder.

What's there not to like here?  In fact, I would add to that all executions be both public and televised (including beheadings).  And for lesser repeated crimes?  Public floggings.

I oppose a 3-strikes policy because it is possible for people to be screwed over legally three times, especially since most people who find themselves in such a position can't hire a lawyer. 

I can go with the basic premise but, yeah, 3 is too few, it's just a dumb sports analogy, but when you see people with 10-15 strikes?

why wait...

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Wow, we are pretty fortunate at the lack of actual random shootings. The vast majority of shootings in Cincinnati and homicides are targeted between people who already know each other, most likely drug-related. Random shootings are what frighten people in Detroit all the time. I think this might be one of the first random shootings of this kind I can remember in years

That is terrible....

 

There have also been a rash of car break-ins in the OTR/Pendleton/Prospect Hill area. I have had two friends who had their cars broken into with nothing visible in their car. One friend had his change (all pennies) stolen from his car. The other had nothing taken. Now one of their doors doesn't lock except from the inside switch and the other's window won't go down.

There's been a rash of counterfeit $20 bills spotted in College Hill, Northside & Clifton.

Adult white tattooed males & black teenage boys.

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Cincinnati has found a new police chief. Making the long trip to Cincinnati from Columbus is Jeffrey Blackwell:

 

Dear Neighbor,

 

After a national search and extensive interviewing, I am pleased to announce that I have selected Jeffrey Blackwell, currently Deputy Police Chief in Columbus, Ohio, as the next Police Chief for the City of Cincinnati.

 

Deputy Chief Blackwell is a 26-year veteran of the Columbus Division of Police, which has 1900 staff members. He has worked in all of the policing sub-divisions in that community. During his tenure, Blackwell has been commended for his outreach to young people, bridge building to a significant immigrant populations (Somalians and Latinos), advancing the use of technology, working with communities to reduce crime, and finding ways to reduce operating costs.

 

He has created and implemented both community and law enforcement programs to improve service delivery in the department. He is the founding member of the program, the ABCs of CPD and CFD, to provide citizens with insight into the decision-making processes, training and culture of the police officers. It also serves as a forum for officers to understand the perspective of the community members.

 

One of the hallmarks of his career has been his five year service on the Youth Violence Prevention Advisory Board, as a Member and Safety Chair. The panel develops, advocates for, and implements models for preventing youth violence and mitigating its effects on the community.

 

In 1992, Blackwell was commended for helping to solve five cold case homicides because he had built a solid rapport with the community. Jeffrey Blackwell actually made news even before joining the Columbus Police Division. While working as a parking ticket writer in 1987, he chased down a bank robber and tackled him.

 

He understands that we have to work with the various communities we serve to build a culture of understanding and respect. In particular, I have spoken to him about our need to work in partnership with other organizations to reach teen youth and young adults to move the needle on reducing crime here. Deputy Chief Blackwell is committed to building upon the Collaborative Agreement and the MOA. He will strive to be accessible to the entire community as well as the staff of the department.

 

Deputy Chief Blackwell has worked his way up in the department, earning the top score on every promotional exam he has taken. He has worked in patrol, traffic, street crime enforcement and cold-case homicide as an officer. Then, after promotion to Sergeant, he also worked in internal affairs, as a burglary detective, and then as a tactical leader in the narcotics area. From 2000 to 2005, he served as a Lieutenant in Patrol, Administration and Traffic, where he developed the traffic management program called Quick-Clear, a protocol for expeditiously removing accidents and obstructions in the streets.

 

As Deputy Chief, a position Blackwell has held since 2009, he has worked as the Administrative Deputy Chief responsible for the Business and Personnel Bureau, the Training Bureau, and the Professional Standards Bureau. His current assignment is to oversee the Support Services areas of the Communications Bureau, the Technical Services Bureau, and the Support Operations Bureau. Therefore, he has experience with both the tactical and the administrative side of the job, and brings that to bear as we move Cincinnatis police department forward.

 

Im pleased that he is committed to engaging his officers in promoting a cooperative atmosphere of working in concert with other city agencies to get things accomplished. He has committed to being here and to further the work started under former Chief James Craig.

 

He graduated from the Certified Law Enforcement Executive (CLEE) program in 2011, is a 2008 graduate of the Police Executive Leadership College, attended the Southern Police Institute-Internal Affairs School, graduated from the Columbus Police Academy (OPATA certified), and holds a B.A. in Business Administration from Mt. Vernon Nazarene University.

 

Blackwell has had previous interaction with the Cincinnati Police Department as a subject matter expert on police examinations and assessments; he has also done this for Columbus, San Francisco, Miami, and Cleveland. He is a cultural diversity trainer, a certified instructor in basic training for OPATA, and has served as a mentor to youth. He has received numerous awards and commendations for his public service, and is a member of local, state and national policing organizations.

 

Id like to thank the community members who served on the Screening Committee. Eleven representatives with a wide range of community experience and knowledge of current policing strategies worked with city staff to recommend a final list of potential candidates. The screening committee including a former police chief, a former prosecuting attorney, military veterans, business leaders, and community members who narrowed the pool to four candidates whom I interviewed.

 

This group of citizens held two rounds of interviews, interacting with the finalists for several hours each. Additionally, the Administration used the input provided by the community through an online survey and community focus groups just two years ago during the last police chief search to craft the position announcement about the job.

 

We advertised around the country to professional organizations, and in multiple publications and online listings and processed a pool of individuals.

 

Deputy Chief Blackwell will begin his tenure September 30. He will come to Cincinnati prior to that and we will arrange an opportunity for you to meet him. I will have details on his swearing in ceremony in the coming days.

 

I look forward to him starting and know you will join me in welcoming him to Cincinnati.

 

Sincerely,

 

Milton Dohoney, Jr.

City Manager

wonder what color shirt he will want officers to wear.

red? grey?

Homicide of a "youth" in North Fairmount.  The number of african american homicides really is insane when you think about it.  From my very unofficial tally I think there have been 2, maybe 3 white homicides this year and 50 black homicides.

There are typically 10-15 U.S. states with fewer yearly murders than the City of Cincinnati:

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_hom_tot_num_of_vic-crime-homicide-total-number-victims

 

right, and most of those are nondiverse states that practically no one lives in - the population of the actual city of Cincinnati is half of the total population of Wyoming, for example.  The city needs to keep improving on its violent crime rate, but let's compare apples to apples here.

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It's "community building" on the part of the police.  builds trust, a relationship etc.  This is a community that used to be strongly at odds with Cincinnati PD.  Now they are much more cooperative. 

It's "community building" on the part of the police.  builds trust, a relationship etc.  This is a community that used to be strongly at odds with Cincinnati PD.  Now they are much more cooperative. 

A valuable observation.  As you pointed out, the relationship between numerous, predominately black communities and the police may well be changing for the positive.  As much as many of us (myself included) may scoff at the power of prayer vs. that of bean bags and bullets, at least two radically different components of Cincinnati's urban-society are attempting to meet in the middle.  Needless to say, neither side wishes to endure another horrendous "Timothy Thomas Event" to make their positions known--but now both black communities and police are talking--and this  is  progress.

The city has to be on record pace for murders this year.

Monday: North Fairmont

Wednesday: Kennedy Hgts.

 

I can't find the original article, but somewhere in the Enquirer was a blurb that noted Monday's murder was number 60, so Wednesday's bumps that to 61.

The city has to be on record pace for murders this year.

 

I'd bet the pace isn't even close to a record. 

There's only a 1 in 12 chance that they city's highest murders for a year happened between a January and a December.  There's probably an April through March or August through July that broke the January through December record by five or more.

 

What's my point?  Annual murder statistics are practically useless.  And policing, drugs, etc. might be secondary environmental exposure in influencing crime rates:

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/lead-crime-link-gasoline

 

Yet this thread slogs on and on and on, in pursuit of what, I don't know. 

Yep. It came very close to actually hitting the daughter. You know as much as I that gunshots in that area and down by Chase/Fergus and AP Jones/Fergus is a near daily issue. I don't know what D5 plans on doing about it - since we've given them more than enough information to at least rid the Chase/Fergus park of the daily prostitution/drug issues and to close down some of those shady corner marts.

'Citizen journalist' lawsuit dropped for $40K payout

City OKs right for public to photograph, record police

 

During the weeks of Occupy Cincinnati – when protesters temporarily took over a small city park to challenge free speech and assembly rules – police arrested dozens of people, including a man named Lloyd Jordan.

Unlike the trespass charges that landed most protesters in jail, Jordan was arrested for disorderly conduct, public intoxication and obstructing official business.

Jordan argued that he was a citizen journalist documenting the protest when he photographed a couple of undercover officers sitting in an unmarked police vehicle next to the park. The officers got out of the vehicle, arrested the 36-year-old and took his camera, Jordan said. He denied being drunk.

 

More:

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20131017/NEWS010702/310170185?

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I like the lights on the officers' cars. I noticed it last week and realized they must have a new policy. I think it makes people feel safer at night. Really makes you realize how many officers drive by.

Yes I've never really understood why here in the States we're so big on cops "sneaking up on people" by wearing dark or business-type clothing, not wearing hats at all times and driving cars that blend in with asphalt and other cars. Other countries make their officers a lot more visible even if there are fewer of them by allowing them to stick out.

I really like the new policy for lights on the cop cars. It's a LITTLE overdone in Clifton though. They have the flashing lights on at night unlike everywhere else that just has the two end lights on which aren't bright. But still, it's nice to have their presence more known. It feels a lot safer walking around at night.

I've thought I was getting pulled over about 5 times from the damn new light policy. Freaks me out to see a cop with the lights on in the rear view mirror. I know this is probably my own anxiety though, and is probably a good policy for the police. It intensifies their visibility, which is very valuable.

so cut your hair already...

so cut your hair already...

 

huh?

so cut your hair already...

 

huh?

LOL

kids...

Or,

 

  • 3 weeks later...

From the Zombies of the Fishwarp dept.

Peter Bronson talks poop about the police & liberals & outsiders...

http://cincymagazine.com/Main/Articles/3938.aspx

FWIW, Bronson is a native Michiganer who was brought to Porktown via Arizona.

Does have a point with Craig. When he came to Cincinnati, he refused to be certified as a police officer, despite him being 'ranked' over all of the other officers. And now that he bolted for Detroit, citizens up there are complaining about the very same thing. Craig was unqualified to serve in Cincinnati then - due to his patchy background, for starters, yet we hired him anyways.

So Blackwell is getting flack for speaking out against a fellow officer's inappropriate entry of a home without a warrant?

Is there an article about this?

^ It was mentioned in the article Quimbob posted. The author was upset that he spoke out against the police department and cost them money.

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Just now? You know that someone tried reporting an incident in Northside and was told to do it all online - which wasn't operational.

I remembered that & went back to look. The person who said there was no way to report online isn't too tech savvy.

The police chief was on the Dan Hurley show this AM, too and he mentioned this.

 

In other news, at UC's urging, Ralph Winkler cracked down on some aggravated robbery  guys who got busted near campus.

He sentenced them to 11 years.

1 less year than what you get for sticking a gun barrel down a girl's throat & murdering her.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20131222/NEWS0107/312220023/Judge-answers-UC-plea-crack-down-criminals-maximum-sentence

Something tells me criminals, especially 20 something punk kids like those guys, don't care about sentences.  they operate under the impression, I just won't get caught- not, damn if i get caught i could go to jail for 11 years. 

 

It's "good" in the sense that stabbing someone because they didn't give you your cell phone makes these guys sound like insane animals and should be locked up, but it doesn't mean that the next drugged out violent youth is going to rethink his actions because some other guy got 11 years.

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