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    There's not really any indication that it was a direct gift from Mussolini. It's been reported that a local organization sent a letter to request a statue to Mussolini. He approved of the idea, and it

  • 8:46pm is hardly the afternoon. Very little crime like this is random. It's almost always people who know each other. There's not much of a need to use more precaution than you typically would when li

  • DEPACincy
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    I fail to see how blaring classical music to run people off is going to help OTR business owners or its reputation as a popular destination spot.    Seriously, what are you basing this "OTR

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2 hours ago, Ram23 said:

I was just thinking that I don't remember hearing about murders so frequently in recent years. Homicides are actually down for the year but the month of June was terrible:

 

June was the deadliest month in Cincinnati in at least 19 years

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/06/28/june-has-been-deadliest-month-cincinnati-since-2010/1584618001/

 

 

 

Almost all of the shootings in otr this year have taken near grant part. A 14 year old dies in the same damn spot where a 37 year old was shot and killed.

 

Why isn't their 24/7 CPD patrol for this periemeter? It's clear since the closing of Findley playground that grant park has taken over as the hub. 

 

 

I understand if the shootings in otr were spaced out everywhere in otr.. But it's almost always the same spot

  • 3 weeks later...

Chaos at the Courthouse:

 

Chaos erupts as former judge Tracie Hunter dragged off to serve 6-month sentence

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2019/07/18/judge-order-tracie-hunter-serve-6-month-jail-sentence/1716893001/

 

"This city is going to burn!" a supporter yelled at one point.

 

Moments after Dinkelacker ordered Hunter to jail, a woman rushed along the courtroom wall, toward the table where Hunter sat. Two deputies restrained the woman and forced her to sit in a chair.

 

As that was happening, Hunter stood and a female, African-American deputy approached Hunter. Hunter then allowed her body to go limp.

 

The deputy, holding Hunter under her arms, then dragged Hunter – both feet dragging along the carpet – out of the courtroom.

^ She is 10 ways to Sunday crazy. The sad thing is that she has so many defenders who neglect the fact that she was completely unqualified for her position and the only reason why she is in jail is because she wasted so many resources and held utter contempt for the court proceedings that brought her to justice.

Other then the fact that she's black, and people are appeasing black protesters/voters, I see no reason why anyone is sticking up for this lunatic.  If Hunter were white and pulled the same crap everyone would just think send that lunatic to jail.  When did this new rhetoric start of white collar crime not needing jail time?  Our elected officials should be held to even higher standards then regular citizens.  Don't commit the crime if you don't want to do the time.  

^ Keep that same energy for college rapists who are given probation because their rape was a first offense and they come from a good family. There is no need to jail a non-violent first offender like Tracie Hunter. Only in America would we lock someone like her in a cage for 6 months for what she is accused of doing. 

17 minutes ago, Cincy513 said:

Other then the fact that she's black, and people are appeasing black protesters/voters, I see no reason why anyone is sticking up for this lunatic.  If Hunter were white and pulled the same crap everyone would just think send that lunatic to jail.  When did this new rhetoric start of white collar crime not needing jail time?  Our elected officials should be held to even higher standards then regular citizens.  Don't commit the crime if you don't want to do the time.  

 

It was a pretty tame offense and her first. You can't remove the fact that she's black from the situation. The context matters, and we have a history of locking up black people for low level offenses that white people get slaps on the wrist for. I don't know if that is what is going on here but you can't deny that the optics fit a long history of unequal treatment.

4 minutes ago, edale said:

^she is accused of doing. 

 

She was convicted and refused numerous offers to avoid jail time.  She wants the spectacle.  

1 hour ago, edale said:

^ Keep that same energy for college rapists who are given probation because their rape was a first offense and they come from a good family. There is no need to jail a non-violent first offender like Tracie Hunter. Only in America would we lock someone like her in a cage for 6 months for what she is accused of doing. 

Those people should for sure get thrown in jail as well.  This isn't some incident of a guy getting picked of for weed possession.  This is an elected official knowingly breaking the law.  To say it's a tame offense that shouldn't merit jail time, after all the shit her and her supporters have done, is a slap in the face to the idea of a judicial system.  Like Jake said she's has plenty of opportunities to avoid jail time if that was the ultimate goal, but clearly the goal was to cause a spectacle.  Maybe if Hunter didn't act like a child throughout this entire process I'd have any sympathy for her.  Instead she made them drag her from the court room and is now putting out a bs claim that she was injured while being taken to jail.  The way she's acted she deserves to sit in jail.  And all the local democrats calling for her to not go to jail just so they can keep their black votes are looking like a bunch of idiots.  For people like me who are very much in the middle between the two parties the city and county democrats have done nothing to improve their standing in the public's eye the last couple of years.  

Honestly I think the whole act is a giant attempt to win money in lawsuits.  She was awarded $900k+ to cover legal fees for her provisional ballot issue back in 2010, and then continued to be paid her $121,000 salary even after the Ohio Supreme Court stripped her of her duties as judge after she was indicted for no less than 8 felonies.  

 

Remember, she's always the victim, no matter how blatantly she invents her problems.  

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/23/joe-deters-mike-dewine-send-national-guard-cincinnati/1808836001/

 

This right here is why our city struggles with urban population growth.

 

When you live in Mason or west Chester, never in a million years will you have to worry about your streets having to be patrolled by armed national guard troops with automatics to curb gangsters and violence. 

 

 

This is what happens after decades of centering all social services in the urban core...time to bring some of the services to blue Ash, Montgomery, mason. Spread the love!

The people living in a place as dull as West Chester Township would never move into a city anywhere, regardless of if the National Guard showed up. The people moving to cities generally have at least some idea of what they’re getting into - if they didn’t, everyone would have left cities like New Orleans decades ago, which has waaaaaay worse problems than Cincinnati does. 

“To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”

12 minutes ago, BigDipper 80 said:

The people living in a place as dull as West Chester Township would never move into a city anywhere, regardless of if the National Guard showed up. The people moving to cities generally have at least some idea of what they’re getting into - if they didn’t, everyone would have left cities like New Orleans decades ago, which has waaaaaay worse problems than Cincinnati does. 

 

Its not even about crime ..Its about the perception of crime.

 

Say you were a 24 year old grad student who just landed a job at p and g or any other Downtown based company. Maybe the thought pops up of moving close to the urban core to cut commute times, plus because you enjoy Downtown night life offerings...

 

Then a headline this appears about armed national guard troops guarding every street corner with a rifle by there side as if it's a 3rd world south American city. 

 

This makes you go nope, screw that I'd rather move to Oakley or pleasant ridge. 

 

Poverty breeds crime, and this is exactly what happens when your city is full of poor people and social services founded in the urban core. Sure crime happens everywhere, but crime is lessened when you have a massive influx of wealthy residents which pushes the poverty else where. 

 

Obviously we are urban centric on this forum.. we want our downtown and surrounding urban neighborhoods to succeed but you can't do this when so much of your downtown caters to the poor instead of the rich.

1 hour ago, troeros said:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/23/joe-deters-mike-dewine-send-national-guard-cincinnati/1808836001/

 

This right here is why our city struggles with urban population growth.

 

When you live in Mason or west Chester, never in a million years will you have to worry about your streets having to be patrolled by armed national guard troops with automatics to curb gangsters and violence. 

 

 

This is what happens after decades of centering all social services in the urban core...time to bring some of the services to blue Ash, Montgomery, mason. Spread the love!

Price hill isn’t even in the urban core. But please continue to freak out about every negative mention you can find. This is just Deters being an idiot per usual. 

39 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

Its not even about crime ..Its about the perception of crime.

 

Say you were a 24 year old grad student who just landed a job at p and g or any other Downtown based company. Maybe the thought pops up of moving close to the urban core to cut commute times, plus because you enjoy Downtown night life offerings...

 

Then a headline this appears about armed national guard troops guarding every street corner with a rifle by there side as if it's a 3rd world south American city. 

 

This makes you go nope, screw that I'd rather move to Oakley or pleasant ridge. 

 

Poverty breeds crime, and this is exactly what happens when your city is full of poor people and social services founded in the urban core. Sure crime happens everywhere, but crime is lessened when you have a massive influx of wealthy residents which pushes the poverty else where. 

 

Obviously we are urban centric on this forum.. we want our downtown and surrounding urban neighborhoods to succeed but you can't do this when so much of your downtown caters to the poor instead of the rich.

There are plenty of young people who live downtown and every year more young people move here and to OTR. I would know because I’ve lived downtown the last six years. Who do you think are filling all these new apartments? Only old people? 

7 hours ago, edale said:

There is no need to jail a non-violent first offender like Tracie Hunter. Only in America would we lock someone like her in a cage for 6 months for what she is accused of doing. 

 

I think that when an elected official, particularly a judge, exhibits corrupt and illegal behavior they should be given a stiff punishment. It's a significantly worse transgression than the average non-violent white-collar crime because the victims are the public at large. The average Joe who commits a first time, non-violent act like fraud may have victimized one or a few people. Ms. Hunter victimized the entire population of Hamilton County with her disservice.

16 minutes ago, Ram23 said:

 

I think that when an elected official, particularly a judge, exhibits corrupt and illegal behavior they should be given a stiff punishment. It's a significantly worse transgression than the average non-violent white-collar crime because the victims are the public at large. The average Joe who commits a first time, non-violent act like fraud may have victimized one or a few people. Ms. Hunter victimized the entire population of Hamilton County with her disservice.

 

Ok, so your boy Trump should be given a life sentence.

8 minutes ago, edale said:

 

Ok, so your boy Trump should be given a life sentence.

So you have no retort to elected officials should be held to a higher standard then regular citizens? No response for the multiple times she could have avoided jail time but willingly chose to pass up those opportunities? No answer for why she acted like a complete idiot and brought all of this on herself? You just resort to bringing up other people who should be also in jail. Way to make your case. 

10 hours ago, DEPACincy said:

 

It was a pretty tame offense and her first. You can't remove the fact that she's black from the situation. The context matters, and we have a history of locking up black people for low level offenses that white people get slaps on the wrist for. I don't know if that is what is going on here but you can't deny that the optics fit a long history of unequal treatment.

The sentence had nothing to do with her being black. It had everything to do with the fact that 1) she made a complete mockery of the trial and showed complete disrespect to the Court and judge throughout the trial. Her behavior was contemptuous. Now that alone is not the sole reason why she was in jail, but 2) she was a member of the judiciary so she is also going to be held to a higher standard, just as members of the bar would be. If any lawyer acted that way before a judge, they would be in jail too.

 

So no, being black has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

  • 2 months later...

From way back in 2001...these guys are fat and have mortgages now:

 

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But wait - there's more...Caton is wearing a kilt.  Dude walked home from the traffic stop drunk while wearing a kilt.  Did he still have his gun on him?

 

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  • 3 weeks later...
52 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:


What does this have to do with Cranley?

 

Because he was culpable in the ouster of of Chief Blackwell and installed our current corrupt chief.  Cranley demands LOYALTY, not performance, just like Trump. 

I saw a Cincinnati police officer *almost* wipe out on a Segway on Sunday.  Why?  He was chatting on his cell phone, riding the thing one-handed.  He went up an ADA slope onto a sidewalk and the thing flew out from under him.  He held onto it with one arm and tried to play it off like he meant to do it. 

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  • 4 weeks later...

So...I was walking west on McMillan on Saturday night toward my car, which was parked on Wheeler, when somebody came along and broke windows on the north side of the street in the vicinity of Waffle House/Mr. Sushi/Elephant Walk.  The guy was a rich white kid who wanted everyone to see that he was breaking windows, because if nobody knew he was doing it, there was no glory to bask in. 

 

The crowd at the corner of Clifton & McMillan (in front of Chicago Gyros) didn't seem like they were from here.  They were putting on the act of people who don't have much to lose from being arrested for disorderly conduct, so again, rich kids. 

  • 2 weeks later...
10 minutes ago, Cincinnatus said:

This is a weird case.

 

Also, why did it take 21 mins for cops to arrive for a stabbing call?

 

I knew the guy who was killed.  He had ear buds in all the time and always wore a hoodie.  He was a mystery man and I never got a feel for him.  

 

I heard from someone else that they "always" saw him parked on that block, so he presumably knew the guys who stabbed him pretty well.  

7 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

I knew the guy who was killed.  He had ear buds in all the time and always wore a hoodie.  He was a mystery man and I never got a feel for him.  

 

I heard from someone else that they "always" saw him parked on that block, so he presumably knew the guys who stabbed him pretty well.  

 

In the ~7 years I've lived in my house, I've had two lost/drunk/high guys walk through my gate to my front door, try to get in, and then down my steps to the back door. The first guy I was able to talk to through a window and figured out he was just drunk and lost on his way looking for his booty call down the street - I gave him directions. The second guy was older and looked like he was completely out of it and on heroin so I had to call the cops. Both of these were around 4 AM. I figure at night most of the houses and streets around here look very similar and it'd be easy to end up at the wrong house or even on the wrong street.

 

I read in an older article that the guy hadn't lived here long and lived on either Rohs or Stratford. It's pretty easy to be walking down McMillan in the middle of the night and make a wrong turn down any one of those streets. My guess is he just turned down the wrong street and tried to walk into the wrong house, thinking he was home.

Edited by Ram23

8 hours ago, Cincinnatus said:

This is a weird case.

 

Also, why did it take 21 mins for cops to arrive for a stabbing call?

 

The article says the stabbing was at 4:30, the suspects called the police afterwards, and the cops arrived at 4:51. I think the stabbing time was probably an estimate and rounded to the nearest 5 or 10, the call was made a couple minutes later, and then the cops arrived. I've had to call 911 a couple times nearby and the response time has been about 10 minutes each time.

 

Although, I've been curious if the fact that District 5 is all the way out in College Hill now plays a role in longer response times around UC. I can see the District 1 HQ from my house but my local precinct is a 20 minute drive away.

Edited by Ram23

  • 1 month later...

CPD is attempting to discourage late night gatherings in and around Smale Park & Sawyer Point by cutting off overnight street parking in areas. The following was sent to residents recently:

 

Greetings SMALE Park and BANKS stakeholders:

In response to recent quality-of-life concerns and now escalating violence (shootings) around SMALE/SAWYER POINT Parks and the BANKS, the Police Department is working with Dept of Transportation & Engineering (DOTE) to post “PERMANENT NO-PARKING SIGNS” in strategic areas to stop behaviors leading to quality-of-life concerns and increased violence negatively impacting businesses and residents. The permanent restricted no-parking times will be 11:00 pm to 05:00 am in the following locations (see attached memo):

On both the north and south sides of Freedom Way from Walnut St eastbound to Elm St. – three City blocks of Freedom Way. (BANKS commercial & Radius)

The southbound lane of 800 East Pete Rose Way adjacent to the Sawyer Point parking lot - eastbound heading towards Montgomery Inn. (Near Adams Crossing & Captain’s Watch)

These above locations currently have “temporary no parking signs” to help the police department manage to current quality-of-life concerns and increased violence. We are recommending these signs become permanent.

Please acknowledge receipt of this notification and whether you AGREE -or- DISAGREE with the permanent parking restriction change.

Let me know you thoughts…

Respectfully,

Captain Doug Wiesman

Commander | Central Business Section

"It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton

https://www.fox19.com/2020/08/16/police-people-injured-within-hour-after-multiple-shootings-city-cincinnati/

 

17 shot, 4 dead in 3 massive shootings across Cincinnati today.

 

Avondale, Walnut Hills and OTR. 

 

One of the worst 1 day shooting since the cameo night club incident. 

 

2020 is on track to be the deadliest year for gun violence in the city of Cincinnati...can anyone explain like I'm 5 as to why the police aren't doing more about this spike in violence? Have they just given up? 

 

I'm just surprised the police chief/mayor of Cincinnati I'd experiencing serious heat after such a massive spike in violence across the city. 

1 hour ago, troeros said:

2020 is on track to be the deadliest year for gun violence in the city of Cincinnati...can anyone explain like I'm 5 as to why the police aren't doing more about this spike in violence? Have they just given up?

 

They don't care about all of the speeding, red light running, and street-illegal motocross and ATV activity either. 

 

 

1 hour ago, troeros said:

I'm just surprised the police chief/mayor of Cincinnati I'd experiencing serious heat after such a massive spike in violence across the city. 

 

Cranley can do no wrong. 

 

But also, newsrooms (especially The Enquirer) are depleted and they aren't able to report on each crime. 

 

Cincinnati mayor, police chief, council pledge to address violence after weekend’s mass shooting

 

Mayor John Cranley and members of Cincinnati City Council pledged to deploy additional resources to address the shootings and killings that recently have plagued Cincinnati, including a mass shooting on Sunday morning in Over-the-Rhine.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/08/17/city-leaders-address-mass-shooting.html

 

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"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

15 hours ago, troeros said:

Property manager at a Pendleton property goes to break up a party and gets beaten and shot in the back. 

 

Gotta fight for your right to party.  

Gotta Shut down Bill Goodmans Gun SHow and all the problems are solved. Per PG Sittenfeld

We made the Daily Mail:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8633303/At-18-shot-four-dead-Cincinnati.html

 

19 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

Gotta Shut down Bill Goodmans Gun SHow and all the problems are solved. Per PG Sittenfeld

 

I suspect anyone who wants to "close the gun show loophole" or demands "mandatory background checks" has never been to a gun show nor purchased a gun - nor do they understand what either entails. A lot of people seem to make suggestions that would have had zero impact in terms of preventing the event they're upset about.

 

Something that likely may have actually prevented 10 people from being shot and would have saved 2 lives is... if the police had shut down the giant block party that takes place at Grant Park every weekend night until the wee hours of the morning. The drugs, open containers, litter, noise violations, street blocking, etc. all seem like pretty good reasons for the police to intervene. This wasn't even the first time someone had been shot there.

6 minutes ago, Ram23 said:

We made the Daily Mail:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8633303/At-18-shot-four-dead-Cincinnati.html

 

 

I suspect anyone who wants to "close the gun show loophole" or demands "mandatory background checks" has never been to a gun show nor purchased a gun - nor do they understand what either entails. A lot of people seem to make suggestions that would have had zero impact in terms of preventing the event they're upset about.

 

Something that likely may have actually prevented 10 people from being shot and would have saved 2 lives is... if the police had shut down the giant block party that takes place at Grant Park every weekend night until the wee hours of the morning. The drugs, open containers, litter, noise violations, street blocking, etc. all seem like pretty good reasons for the police to intervene. This wasn't even the first time someone had been shot there.

The pathetic thing about Sittenfeld is that he had the chance to respond to a tragedy in Cincinnati that has been exploding all summer and that is the murder rate and also black on black crime. Instead of talking about a serious issue, he chose to deflect and go to closing a gun show loophole for gun shows happening in the burbs. I can pretty much be willing to guarantee that none of the weapons used during Saturday's murders and shootings were bought because of the gun show loophole. But instead of talking about the problem he chooses to grandstand. 

This is why I low-key wish to move to Europe/Asia one day. 

 

I love urban centers, but a vast majority of US urban centers have so many underlying issues. 

 

I've been to alot of major cities across the world..Toronto, Montreal, Vienna, Paris, Budapest, Hong Kong, Beijing, etc. 

 

Walking alone at night in these cities is actually relaxing and peaceful. Sure you might run into a homeless person, but the vast majority of the time they ignore you completely. 

 

I wish I could say I am able to walk alone around Cincinnati at night, or Chicago at night or any other city in the US. But unfortunately you can't. You have to constantly be on guard.  

 

It sucks that we have such huge underlying problems with poverty in our urban cores that really makes it difficult at times to enjoy the sense of being in an urban environment. 

 

4 hours ago, troeros said:

You have to constantly be on guard.  

 

You don't remember the 80s or 90s, do you?  Its was 10x more dangerous than it is now.  

https://www.wlwt.com/article/police-1-dead-in-downtown-cincinnati-shooting-near-public-library/33650893

 

Man gunned down by the Downtown Public Library during the afternoon. 

 

Question for urban downtown residents on Urban Ohio. How is living downtown at the moment? Does it feel safe? Or do you feel like you have to take extra precautions nowadays with the extreme spike in violence the urban core is experiencing? I'm just curious what it's like? 

 

 

42 minutes ago, troeros said:

https://www.wlwt.com/article/police-1-dead-in-downtown-cincinnati-shooting-near-public-library/33650893

 

Man gunned down by the Downtown Public Library during the afternoon. 

 

Question for urban downtown residents on Urban Ohio. How is living downtown at the moment? Does it feel safe? Or do you feel like you have to take extra precautions nowadays with the extreme spike in violence the urban core is experiencing? I'm just curious what it's like? 

 

 

 

8:46pm is hardly the afternoon. Very little crime like this is random. It's almost always people who know each other. There's not much of a need to use more precaution than you typically would when living in a city in America.

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