This is a major media win for Columbus! The FT is a globally important publication. Columbus really is separating itself from its regional competition. https://www.ft.com/content/3205ef22-334e-11e8-b5bf-23cb17fd1498.

This is a major media win for Columbus! It really is separating itself from its regional competition. https://www.ft.com/content/3205ef22-334e-11e8-b5bf-23cb17fd1498.

 

What?

This is a major media win for Columbus! It really is separating itself from its regional competition. https://www.ft.com/content/3205ef22-334e-11e8-b5bf-23cb17fd1498.

 

What?

 

Apparently it is an article about the Columbus business environment (which is why I moved it into this thread).  The author's twitter page has a link to the full article: 

This is a major media win for Columbus! The FT is a globally important publication. Columbus really is separating itself from its regional competition. https://www.ft.com/content/3205ef22-334e-11e8-b5bf-23cb17fd1498.

 

The link doesn't tell me much. If your post is a reference to the FT's profile of Les Wexner, publisher last Saturday, I wouldn't call it a major win.  The article called the city "dowdy Columbus" in the first paragraph and made Wexner sound like a pretty much like a hayseed who got lucky. The comments are probably unfair to both, but as you say they went worldwide.

It's about Columbus' political response to the economic changes of the last decade. You can't get more high profile and have better access to business movers and shakers than the Financial Times.

The author's twitter page has a link to the full article: 

 

The author - Rana Foroohar - wrote a similar type article about Columbus back in 2012 when she was with Time:  https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3163.msg643843.html#msg643843

 

Basically, the author praises the way an all-Democratic city leadership has partnered with a mostly-Republican business leadership to drive economic development in Central Ohio.  She cites a Harvard Business School case study about this entitled "The Columbus Partnership": https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=49148

 

At the end of the article, the author writes:

-

- "The city’s success is a great example of what American industrial policy can yield.  Many countries — not just China, but also a number of European nations — create multiyear plans for economic development.  The US does not, of course.  Industrial policy have always been dirty words here."

-

- "Mr Trump, and many others, rail against Chinese state-run capitalism.  But by demonising the outsider, rather than creating a real national economic development strategy at home, the US is missing the point.  Columbus is, in a way, showing how to do Chinese economic development with American characteristics.  It’s a strategy worth copying."

Can people not read the article itself here?

Can people not read the article itself here?

 

The link you provided leads to a paywall.  Try the author's twitter link - I was able to read it through a link there.

Really? I'm not a subscriber to FT. It just showed up in a search. How odd.

It's definitely a nice article for exposure. Re: FT's paywall, if you just search the title "Columbus shows Trump how to thrive in the new world order" it looks like you can access the full article through Google. I was able to read it that way, but not by direct link

It's definitely a nice article for exposure. Re: FT's paywall, if you just search the title "Columbus shows Trump how to thrive in the new world order" it looks like you can access the full article through Google. I was able to read it that way, but not by direct link

 

You can often access WSJ articles doing this as well.  Don't know why.

The big issue, though, is affordability of the region for the millennials that Amazon will want to hire, he said.

 

That is why Conway stills considers Pittsburgh, Columbus and Nashville to be near the top for HQ2. He said Amazon executives were in Columbus over the weekend for the women’s Final Four NCAA basketball championship.

 

“They love your town. You talk to anyone in Amazon at any different level they glow over their experience,” he said. “They love the market.”

 

http://www.dispatch.com/business/20180405/amazons-second-headquarters-winner-likely-to-be-crowned-soon

We're not getting HQ2.

We're not getting HQ2.

 

What else do you know about the future?

We're not getting HQ2.

 

I hate to agree, but I agree. If we get the HQ2 I will eat an entire Kroger's brown paper bag. It just will not happen. We will probably get a nice consolation note though.  And I actually have become of the opinion that we will be better off not having it.

We're not getting HQ2.

 

I hate to agree, but I agree. If we get the HQ2 I will eat an entire Kroger's brown paper bag. It just will not happen. We will probably get a nice consolation note though.  And I actually have become of the opinion that we will be better off not having it.

 

I've got $100 on us getting it. You can take it to the bank.

I'll eat a Big Bear sack.

The big issue, though, is affordability of the region for the millennials that Amazon will want to hire, he said.

 

That is why Conway stills considers Pittsburgh, Columbus and Nashville to be near the top for HQ2. He said Amazon executives were in Columbus over the weekend for the women’s Final Four NCAA basketball championship.

 

“They love your town. You talk to anyone in Amazon at any different level they glow over their experience,” he said. “They love the market.”

 

http://www.dispatch.com/business/20180405/amazons-second-headquarters-winner-likely-to-be-crowned-soon

 

If they were impressed by the Final Four this weekend just imagine if it weren't on a holiday weekend!

We're not getting HQ2.

 

I hate to agree, but I agree. If we get the HQ2 I will eat an entire Kroger's brown paper bag. It just will not happen. We will probably get a nice consolation note though.  And I actually have become of the opinion that we will be better off not having it.

 

I've got $100 on us getting it. You can take it to the bank.

We're not getting HQ2.

 

I hate to agree, but I agree. If we get the HQ2 I will eat an entire Kroger's brown paper bag. It just will not happen. We will probably get a nice consolation note though.  And I actually have become of the opinion that we will be better off not having it.

 

I've got $100 on us getting it. You can take it to the bank.

I will never bet on anything again after betting good money that Trump would never get elected President...but I hope someone else on here will take your bet (and then take your money! ;)

I'll eat a Big Bear sack.

 

Funny how I happen to have an old Big Bear sack(yeah I am kind of a hoarder)...you will be eating paper right along with me if we are wrong!  ;)

 

We don't need it...  It is just too much-we would be Austonized.

We're not getting HQ2.

 

I hate to agree, but I agree. If we get the HQ2 I will eat an entire Kroger's brown paper bag. It just will not happen. We will probably get a nice consolation note though.  And I actually have become of the opinion that we will be better off not having it.

 

I've got $100 on us getting it. You can take it to the bank.

 

Save your $100...It isn't happening..

We're not getting HQ2.

 

I hate to agree, but I agree. If we get the HQ2 I will eat an entire Kroger's brown paper bag. It just will not happen. We will probably get a nice consolation note though.  And I actually have become of the opinion that we will be better off not having it.

 

I've got $100 on us getting it. You can take it to the bank.

 

I take that back...I will take the bet. Six months after the announcement for the loser(you)to pay up. I lost on Trump-I will win on this.

Not to pile on but I don't think we'll get it either. I'd love to be wrong though... yes it would bring a lot of new challenges, but the pluses outweigh the negatives IMO

We all know that really we are not going to get it. Just trying to be realistic here. We don't even have the 600,000 square feet of office space they will need almost immediately. We just are lacking in too many areas-why get our hopes up just to have them dashed. We can be happy to be in the top 20, to have them visit and say nice things-it will all be good for the city.  But we will be at most a runner up, get some flowers and a peck on the cheek, and that is it.

 

But I congratulate the city on making a decent proposal and doing the best it can. We need strong civic leadership. I miss Coleman, he was not only a mayor but a cheerleader and constant advocate for the city.

We also have no rail transit, which is a disadvantage we share with Indy and Raleigh.

We all know that really we are not going to get it. Just trying to be realistic here. We don't even have the 600,000 square feet of office space they will need almost immediately. We just are lacking in too many areas-why get our hopes up just to have them dashed. We can be happy to be in the top 20, to have them visit and say nice things-it will all be good for the city.  But we will be at most a runner up, get some flowers and a peck on the cheek, and that is it.

 

But I congratulate the city on making a decent proposal and doing the best it can. We need strong civic leadership. I miss Coleman, he was not only a mayor but a cheerleader and constant advocate for the city.

 

Ummm the Scioto Peninsula says hello...

We also have no rail transit, which is a disadvantage we share with Indy and Raleigh.

 

I was talking about this last week with some people, do we really need it the way our city is setup?  If we get an airport connector and maybe a quick connect to the west, nw, ne and east past the airport do we need more than that?  The city itself is nice, compact and fairly walkable.  If COTA did quick routes like the circular to hot urban neighborhoods like Grandview, Clintonville, OTE and soon to be Franklinton we would be fine IMO.

Outsiders think it's very, very weird that we don't have it. Or they think that we're one of those cities that let the '70s ruin it. Which we did.

Outsiders think it's very, very weird that we don't have it. Or they think that we're one of those cities that let the '70s ruin it. Which we did.

 

Ok but again, do we really need it?  People b*tch and moan all the time about how much Nationwide is costing taxpayers, imagine what that would be with a billion dollar rail project.  Personally myself and my friends all 28-35 would rather have the rail connection to Chicago versus a trail in town.  We have uber and lyft and the COTA circulator; personally I'm good! 

We also have no rail transit, which is a disadvantage we share with Indy and Raleigh.

 

 

no rail transit ... until the state helps land hq2 in part with a deal that includes building out rail transit.

 

boo yah.

It will not cost $1 billion to create connections using existing rail corridors and streets. $200 million, maybe... probably not even that. Tires don't create economic development yet rails do. Things don't need to be either/or. We have to get away from this scarcity mentality.

It will not cost $1 billion to create connections using existing rail corridors and streets. $200 million, maybe... probably not even that. Tires don't create economic development yet rails do. Things don't need to be either/or. We have to get away from this scarcity mentality.

 

Cinci's cost $200 million and they didn't get shit for it IMO; the Euclid Corridor project in Cleveland cost $220 million and revitalized that area for the most part.  My point is that our project is not as easy as you make it sound, if it goes to the suburbs it will be every bit of a billion dollars whether you want to believe it or not.  Creating a line from downtown to the airport alone would be close to a quarter to half a billion all day.

We all know that really we are not going to get it. Just trying to be realistic here. We don't even have the 600,000 square feet of office space they will need almost immediately. We just are lacking in too many areas-why get our hopes up just to have them dashed. We can be happy to be in the top 20, to have them visit and say nice things-it will all be good for the city.  But we will be at most a runner up, get some flowers and a peck on the cheek, and that is it.

 

But I congratulate the city on making a decent proposal and doing the best it can. We need strong civic leadership. I miss Coleman, he was not only a mayor but a cheerleader and constant advocate for the city.

 

Ummm the Scioto Peninsula says hello...

They stated they need the 600,000 square feet almost immediately, not after two or three years of construction. So there is 600,000 square feet of office space just sitting there on the Scioto Peninsula? Well Peter Piper Picked a Peck of Peppers! I had no idea!!! lol  ;)

 

*the Scioto Peninsula (and parts of East Franklinton) would be great...for new buildings.  Where is that office space they will need right away?

 

Won't matter really since we won't get it ...just sayin'.

We all know that really we are not going to get it. Just trying to be realistic here. We don't even have the 600,000 square feet of office space they will need almost immediately. We just are lacking in too many areas-why get our hopes up just to have them dashed. We can be happy to be in the top 20, to have them visit and say nice things-it will all be good for the city.  But we will be at most a runner up, get some flowers and a peck on the cheek, and that is it.

 

But I congratulate the city on making a decent proposal and doing the best it can. We need strong civic leadership. I miss Coleman, he was not only a mayor but a cheerleader and constant advocate for the city.

 

Ummm the Scioto Peninsula says hello...

They stated they need the 600,000 square feet almost immediately, not after two or three years of construction. So there is 600,000 square feet of office space just sitting there on the Scioto Peninsula? Well Peter Piper Picked a Peck of Peppers! I had no idea!!! lol  ;)

 

*the Scioto Peninsula (and parts of East Franklinton) would be great...for new buildings.  Where is that office space they will need right away?

 

Won't matter really since we won't get it ...just sayin'.

 

Last I checked they weren't opening tomorrow... just sayin'

It will not cost $1 billion to create connections using existing rail corridors and streets. $200 million, maybe... probably not even that. Tires don't create economic development yet rails do. Things don't need to be either/or. We have to get away from this scarcity mentality.

 

Cinci's cost $200 million and they didn't get shit for it IMO; the Euclid Corridor project in Cleveland cost $220 million and revitalized that area for the most part.  My point is that our project is not as easy as you make it sound, if it goes to the suburbs it will be every bit of a billion dollars whether you want to believe it or not.  Creating a line from downtown to the airport alone would be close to a quarter to half a billion all day.

 

I don't feel that it needs to go to the outer 'burbs, especially initially. There isn't much need for that type of connection here. It's not about "moving people" back and forth to Pickerington to cut down on car commuting. It's about creating more investment in our underutilized/underdeveloped core. That doesn't take a billion dollars.

^ correct, something to the airport initially if it goes that way. however, i don't think columbus will be that cautious re rail services when it happens. no mere starter line. i think it will be a big plan with much built all at once. something absolutely transformative. at least i would hope so. landing hq2 would do it.

It will not cost $1 billion to create connections using existing rail corridors and streets. $200 million, maybe... probably not even that. Tires don't create economic development yet rails do. Things don't need to be either/or. We have to get away from this scarcity mentality.

 

Cinci's cost $200 million and they didn't get shit for it IMO; the Euclid Corridor project in Cleveland cost $220 million and revitalized that area for the most part.  My point is that our project is not as easy as you make it sound, if it goes to the suburbs it will be every bit of a billion dollars whether you want to believe it or not.  Creating a line from downtown to the airport alone would be close to a quarter to half a billion all day.

 

I don't feel that it needs to go to the outer 'burbs, especially initially. There isn't much need for that type of connection here. It's not about "moving people" back and forth to Pickerington to cut down on car commuting. It's about creating more investment in our underutilized/underdeveloped core. That doesn't take a billion dollars.

 

What part of our "core" is underdeveloped and not walkable?  I saw people walking from Hofbrauhaus to the Final Four last weekend.  I'm very confused by your response because it's not a good argument for rail. 

Much of downtown Columbus is still parking lots. It will only be built on when non-car transportation options exist to support denser development.

Outsiders think it's very, very weird that we don't have it. Or they think that we're one of those cities that let the '70s ruin it. Which we did.

 

Ok but again, do we really need it?  People b*tch and moan all the time about how much Nationwide is costing taxpayers, imagine what that would be with a billion dollar rail project.  Personally myself and my friends all 28-35 would rather have the rail connection to Chicago versus a trail in town.  We have uber and lyft and the COTA circulator; personally I'm good!

 

Who's "we"? I-270 cost billions. Do we need it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Personally, I don't care about others' individual happiness.

Much of downtown Columbus is still parking lots. It will only be built on when non-car transportation options exist to support denser development.

 

When is the last time you were downtown? Not everyone wants to live in the city and even those that do won't ALL want to take public transportation. 

Outsiders think it's very, very weird that we don't have it. Or they think that we're one of those cities that let the '70s ruin it. Which we did.

 

Ok but again, do we really need it?  People b*tch and moan all the time about how much Nationwide is costing taxpayers, imagine what that would be with a billion dollar rail project.  Personally myself and my friends all 28-35 would rather have the rail connection to Chicago versus a trail in town.  We have uber and lyft and the COTA circulator; personally I'm good!

 

Who's "we"? I-270 cost billions. Do we need it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Personally, I don't care about others' individual happiness.

 

Actually I-270=commerce=income for our economy, so WRONG!

Much of downtown Columbus is still parking lots. It will only be built on when non-car transportation options exist to support denser development.

 

When is the last time you were downtown? Not everyone wants to live in the city and even those that do won't ALL want to take public transportation. 

 

 

Why wouldn't people be allowed to use other modes if rail transit existed? So all other options would be taken away if one was added?

Much of downtown Columbus is still parking lots. It will only be built on when non-car transportation options exist to support denser development.

 

When is the last time you were downtown? Not everyone wants to live in the city and even those that do won't ALL want to take public transportation. 

 

 

Why wouldn't people be allowed to use other modes if rail transit existed? So all other options would be taken away if one was added?

 

Sorry responded to this by mistake and don't know how to delete it.

Outsiders think it's very, very weird that we don't have it. Or they think that we're one of those cities that let the '70s ruin it. Which we did.

 

Ok but again, do we really need it?  People b*tch and moan all the time about how much Nationwide is costing taxpayers, imagine what that would be with a billion dollar rail project.  Personally myself and my friends all 28-35 would rather have the rail connection to Chicago versus a trail in town.  We have uber and lyft and the COTA circulator; personally I'm good!

 

Who's "we"? I-270 cost billions. Do we need it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Personally, I don't care about others' individual happiness.

 

Actually I-270=commerce=income for our economy, so WRONG!

 

What is "our" economy? If you think 1-270 is so great why won't you pay for it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Not one penny. It's money loser.

Much of downtown Columbus is still parking lots. It will only be built on when non-car transportation options exist to support denser development.

 

When is the last time you were downtown? Not everyone wants to live in the city and even those that do won't ALL want to take public transportation.

 

I was downtown on Saturday. If you don't want to live somewhere, don't live there. Roads ARE "public transportation." They are paid for and owned by government and are for transportation. If you don't like that, don't use them.

What is "our" economy? If you think 1-270 is so great why won't you pay for it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Not one penny. It's money loser.

 

"Why even have roads, man" is not a take I expected in 2018.

Much of downtown Columbus is still parking lots. It will only be built on when non-car transportation options exist to support denser development.

 

When is the last time you were downtown? Not everyone wants to live in the city and even those that do won't ALL want to take public transportation.

 

I was downtown on Saturday. If you don't want to live somewhere, don't live there. Roads ARE "public transportation." They are paid for and owned by government and are for transportation. If you don't like that, don't use them.

 

After reading your original response again I realized that I mispoke when responding.  I am pro-road and pro-connector rail in limited amounts.  However our downtown is doing a great job at infilling a lot of those parking lots; I saw that part and it sparked my rash response.

Outsiders think it's very, very weird that we don't have it. Or they think that we're one of those cities that let the '70s ruin it. Which we did.

 

Ok but again, do we really need it?  People b*tch and moan all the time about how much Nationwide is costing taxpayers, imagine what that would be with a billion dollar rail project.  Personally myself and my friends all 28-35 would rather have the rail connection to Chicago versus a trail in town.  We have uber and lyft and the COTA circulator; personally I'm good!

 

Who's "we"? I-270 cost billions. Do we need it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Personally, I don't care about others' individual happiness.

 

Actually I-270=commerce=income for our economy, so WRONG!

 

What is "our" economy? If you think 1-270 is so great why won't you pay for it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Not one penny. It's money loser.

 

This I am still confused about, do you suggest that we make it a toll road?  I pay taxes and I hope that's what some of that money is going towards is maintaining the roads so I can get back and forth to conduct business.  Do you see where I'm going with this "our economy" thing?

*unpopular opinion*

 

We need more city built garages like the one by Neighborhood Launch and the one in Riversouth. Built so they can later be converted to non-car uses. Worth the investment to get infill until things change with the car dependency. And it is surprising just how many of those parking lots that cover so much of downtown have disappeared completely, and how many more are awaiting destruction due to planned developments that of course, incorporate parking within them.

Outsiders think it's very, very weird that we don't have it. Or they think that we're one of those cities that let the '70s ruin it. Which we did.

 

Ok but again, do we really need it?  People b*tch and moan all the time about how much Nationwide is costing taxpayers, imagine what that would be with a billion dollar rail project.  Personally myself and my friends all 28-35 would rather have the rail connection to Chicago versus a trail in town.  We have uber and lyft and the COTA circulator; personally I'm good!

 

Who's "we"? I-270 cost billions. Do we need it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Personally, I don't care about others' individual happiness.

 

Actually I-270=commerce=income for our economy, so WRONG!

 

What is "our" economy? If you think 1-270 is so great why won't you pay for it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Not one penny. It's money loser.

 

This I am still confused about, do you suggest that we make it a toll road?  I pay taxes and I hope that's what some of that money is going towards is maintaining the roads so I can get back and forth to conduct business.  Do you see where I'm going with this "our economy" thing?

 

My economy and yours may be very different. What's good for you may be bad for me. The taxes you pay don't remotely cover the cost of the roads you use. If you can't pay for your own transportation, you'll have to adjust. I'm sick of subsidizing you. Why should the sales tax I pay on a dinner in Short North be spent on an expressway I never use?

Outsiders think it's very, very weird that we don't have it. Or they think that we're one of those cities that let the '70s ruin it. Which we did.

 

Ok but again, do we really need it?  People b*tch and moan all the time about how much Nationwide is costing taxpayers, imagine what that would be with a billion dollar rail project.  Personally myself and my friends all 28-35 would rather have the rail connection to Chicago versus a trail in town.  We have uber and lyft and the COTA circulator; personally I'm good!

 

Who's "we"? I-270 cost billions. Do we need it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Personally, I don't care about others' individual happiness.

 

Actually I-270=commerce=income for our economy, so WRONG!

 

What is "our" economy? If you think 1-270 is so great why won't you pay for it? It doesn't produce a penny in income. Not one penny. It's money loser.

 

This I am still confused about, do you suggest that we make it a toll road?  I pay taxes and I hope that's what some of that money is going towards is maintaining the roads so I can get back and forth to conduct business.  Do you see where I'm going with this "our economy" thing?

 

My economy and yours may be very different. What's good for you may be bad for me. The taxes you pay don't remotely cover the cost of the roads you use. If you can't pay for your own transportation, you'll have to adjust. I'm sick of subsidizing you. Why should the sales tax I pay on a dinner in Short North be spent on an expressway I never use?

 

Explain to me your economy then? Do you never leave your home? Walk on a sidewalk? Ride a bus? Leave the city at all? Come to the city at all? 

 

DO SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST TROLL!