November 1, 200717 yr to hell with you all, i know what I read and thats what I read...damnit! :-P :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :wink: And rando, are you gonna bring those whips to the meet? If so, Saturday will be a LOT more interesting :-)
November 8, 200717 yr Any news lately. We have the Banks project starting this coming winter, I'm sure by next spring something will come about phase II I hope.
November 8, 200717 yr At first, I was all excited to see this thread up. Then I saw Aetennis07's name next to it, and I knew....... :x
November 8, 200717 yr If there is one thing i've learned on this site, it is that if there is any news on a project, we will be the first to find out. So just chill. You'll know when there is news.
November 8, 200717 yr I wonder what effect this office project will have on the banks, but since this project is apparently going ahead, I wonder what effect this tower will have on the Banks.
November 9, 200717 yr The following is an e-mail from Rob Alpern ********************************88 Jack, Good to hear from you. There's much that I cannot tell you at this time but please know that the project's prospects have never been brighter. We hope to have something exciting to announce in early 2008.
November 9, 200717 yr I hope they have an updated rendering to show for themselves in early 2008. I'm getting kind of bored with my avatar.
November 12, 200717 yr Question: What effect does the launch of the Banks and the accompanying commercial influx have to do with spurring this project to fruition? Do you think that QCSII would have continued to languish if the competitive forces hadn't anted up?
November 14, 200717 yr I'm not sure the push to build QCS2 has anything to do with the Banks or any other project. Just happens to coincide with everything else. After all, they have been saying possibly a 2008 construction start for around 3 years now. It's almost 2008 ;-)
November 16, 200717 yr I'm not sure the push to build QCS2 has anything to do with the Banks or any other project. Just happens to coincide with everything else. After all, they have been saying possibly a 2008 construction start for around 3 years now. It's almost 2008 ;-) What I was hoping to hear was QCSII will be fast-tracked due to the impending glut of commercial space in The Banks. A "me first" situation.
November 16, 200717 yr Whenever I questioned Western Southern (several times over the past five years or so), they always said that construction would not begin until the pre-leasing was at least 50% They never said anything about what year construction would begin.
November 16, 200717 yr Whenever I questioned Western Southern (several times over the past five years or so), they always said that construction would not begin until the pre-leasing was at least 50% They never said anything about what year construction would begin. That too is my understanding after hearing from Rob Alpern (leasing agent). They wanted QCSI to be 100% leased, and then QCSII 50% pre-leased (roughly). Well QCSI has been fully leased for a few months now...we're just waiting on pre-leasing now of the big boy.
December 12, 200717 yr John Barrett replied to my e-mail, requesting info on QCSII, and said, "Stay tuned." hmmm.....
December 12, 200717 yr We could have a really interesting 2010. -operational streetcar -new tallest building -phase I of the banks -beer hall of fame?
December 12, 200717 yr Interesting find: I just googled beer hall of fame and this is the first hit I got: http://www.realbeer.com/news/articles/news-002355.php
December 12, 200717 yr There is a thread around here in the abandoned section, I believe. edit: Here: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3390.0
December 12, 200717 yr Off-topic, but I don't think the Beer HOF is officially abandoned. It's just been moved to that section pending ANY news.
December 12, 200717 yr John Barrett replied to my e-mail, requesting info on QCSII, and said, "Stay tuned." hmmm..... What a tease...also what is new?
December 12, 200717 yr so the Oct-Nov news has not come along....does anyone think its because whoever wanted to move into QCS is now looking more seriously at The Banks? Me thinks so (based on no knowledge really).
December 13, 200717 yr I doubt it. There is a lot to do to get a large tenant in a project such as this. Chances are it's just been set back a little due to red tape, redesign (remember, they are supposedly adding more floors), bids, etc. Also my guess is that this is going to be a HUGE press release with probably everyone and their baby brother involved. Don't expect this just to be a small Enquirer print. I'm sure they will coordinate this with all local press. I would expect to see an announcement not too long after the 1st of the year.
December 13, 200717 yr All of what Ronnie is saying is speculation/personal opinion, no concrete. We will have to wait for the official word.
December 13, 200717 yr ^ They're adding more floors? This thing was already going to be enormous! I don't know about enormous. The highest occupied floor in the city was still supposed to be in Carew, wasn't it?
December 13, 200717 yr I doubt it. There is a lot to do to get a large tenant in a project such as this. Chances are it's just been set back a little due to red tape, redesign (remember, they are supposedly adding more floors), bids, etc. They are not adding floors. I apologize for my November deadline. They are still in the value engineering stage. One items of debate is steel vs. reinforced concrete for the structure. I am not the one cutting the check for this project, but this project has to be announced sometime soon at this point...
December 13, 200717 yr no i think he was referring to QCS. I thought I remember reading something on here about making the project bigger, taller even. Yea, definitely read that on here.
December 13, 200717 yr If they do make QSII taller then the Carew Tower, would they build into their agreement that no other building can be taller then QSII? If not, that would just open the door for newer taller skyscrappers to be built.
December 13, 200717 yr If they do make QSII taller then the Carew Tower, would they build into their agreement that no other building can be taller then QSII? If not, that would just open the door for newer taller skyscrappers to be built. I'm not real sure there is the demand for that...skyscrapers only provide an economic advantage when land values reach so high. The higher the land values...the taller the buildings get. Developers do what will make them money...if it's building a new tallest then so be it. If it's building a short-squatty building along I-75/I-71 then you'll get that. Money is the driver behind everything...and I'm not real sure that developers are going to be requesting permits, for skyscrapers, in droves anytime soon.
December 13, 200717 yr I recall that John Barrett said it was possible that more floors could be added. Does anyone know what the present design calls for: 37 or 40 floors? I believe the height from street level to the top of the tiara was 689 feet. It would be nice to have a few more feet to make it over 700feet.
December 13, 200717 yr Does anyone have any guesses who this major tenant might be? Is it somebody new to the Cincy area?
December 13, 200717 yr Does anyone have any guesses who this major tenant might be? Is it somebody new to the Cincy area? From an insider source with Western & Southern I have been informed that they are in discussions with a couple of different potential tenants. One of the potential big-boys would be a currently local law firm that is looking to expand significantly (forget their name)...I would however not rule out other possibilities.
December 14, 200717 yr I recall that John Barrett said it was possible that more floors could be added. Does anyone know what the present design calls for: 37 or 40 floors? I believe the height from street level to the top of the tiara was 689 feet. It would be nice to have a few more feet to make it over 700feet. Yes, he was quoted that in 1 of the last 2 articles published in the Enquirer that there would be a possibility of adding additional floors to QCSII which is why I made the statement above. Nicker66, the original proposal called for 37 floors @ 689ft. What caused the height loss? Shorter floor plates? less floors?
December 19, 200717 yr City's tallest tower to be built Queen City Square to get started in spring BY KEITH T. REED | [email protected] Western & Southern Financial Group met with city officials Tuesday to propose a timeline for building its long-planned Queen City Square office tower, a project that would become the tallest building in downtown Cincinnati. The building would open in 2011. Executives from the company and its project manager, Turner Construction, met with city officials Tuesday at City Hall to lay out details. The project is slated to stand 40 stories, bringing a massive 800,000 square feet of office space, 21,000 square feet of ground-level retail and 1,300 parking spaces on nine levels, city officials said. Because of its distinctive arching roof, Queen City Square would be taller than the 574-foot Carew Tower even though it would have fewer floors. Cincinnati Enquirer 12/19/2007 http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071218/BIZ01/312190003
December 19, 200717 yr KICK ASS! Hopefully a project of this nature will change the attitude of our gloom and doom regional residents, since it will be so visible (and that seems to be the only thing suburbanites understand) and bring them around to seeing all the good things happening in the core. With all the stuff going on around Fountain Square, OTR, riverfront living on both sides of the river, the streetcar, etc., maybe this will finally push the public psyche into positive mode!
December 19, 200717 yr I'm very excited for the near future of this city......I wish I had a time machine to warp into the future by 5 years.
December 19, 200717 yr Awesome news - I guess we will finally find out the actual height, although I would be happy with 689 ft. I agree that this will have a great effect as it will be so visible. I wonder if they actually have some prospective tenants - some details will apparently be given tomorrow afternoon.
December 19, 200717 yr Start demo June 2008 Topped Out April 2010 100% September 2011 i can see into the future... also, i think the banks is going to be a bit of a letdown, so i am really happy they were able to get this started on time.
December 19, 200717 yr I am pretty pumped to see what this thing will look like from different seats inside GAB!!!
December 19, 200717 yr nicker66, you are the man ... Many people on here doubted you, and you were right! ... Do you know if this is going to be an in-region move as far as the tenant? Or, is a new company locating here?
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