September 29, 200816 yr are there site plans/designs/blueprints for the other two towers that were scrapped?
September 30, 200816 yr Hopefully Uncle Carl & sons has been chatting with Warren Buffet a lot. If so, Great American should be fine. If they play their cards right, I would think that they could pick up some AIG's business. The Lindner crowd has been a big part of the National City ownership group. Also the Lindners made their money picking up the pieces of the last really serious economic calamity - the early 1970s collapse of the rail corps and other related old-line businesses.
September 30, 200816 yr >re there site plans/designs/blueprints for the other two towers that were scrapped? There were prints in the 1998 "Unbuilt Cincinnati" exhibit at the old CAC. One looked a little like the Chrysler building and another looked like it belonged in Detroit. They were both around 40 floors. I haven't been able to find the drawings on microfilm because I can't remember which newspaper those drawings were from. From memory I think both sites were in the 5th & Race and 5th & Vine vicinity, a move that could have shifted the center of downtown more in that direction away from Walnut and Main. >Also the Lindners made their money picking up the pieces of the last really serious economic calamity - the early 1970s collapse of the rail corps and other related old-line businesses. Doesn't Carl own a big share in Amtrak dating from its inception? I'm not sure what owning shares in Amtrak even means. It's always entertaining when a financial curmudgeon like Carl makes out big when things hit the fan. The only stock that was up today was Campbell's soup.
September 30, 200816 yr The only stock that was up today was Campbell's soup. That's funny... probably because Campbell's soup is cheap! I can only imagine how having those 2 additional towers would have radically changed the appearance of the Cincy skyline and shifted everything. If you ever find any images, it would be very cool to see what the skyline would look like today with those 2 built.
September 30, 200816 yr Yep, Uncle Carl 'owns' Amtrak. The rail threads have discussed this a couple times, because he is in court trying to get some money out of Amtrak. The big buy was Penn Central. He didn't fully wrap into his other holdings until the late 80s or early 90s - late enough that I remember it as a stand alone part of his earnings, but not too recently.
October 26, 200816 yr Construction update pictures from 10-25-2008 Were these taken from the Atrium II?
October 26, 200816 yr Awesome, thanks. Get those pilings in and let's get this thing above ground. Can't wait to see that skeleton going inot the sky!
October 27, 200816 yr Construction update pictures from 10-25-2008 Were these taken from the Atrium II? they most certainly were....
October 29, 200816 yr Before: After: This was done using a very quick Sketchup model and the photo match tool. I also have the model available as a Google Earth KMZ file, if anyone would like it.
October 29, 200816 yr Cool, I guess I should have tilted the camera a little higher. Aside from its position in the city, the bigger floors are going mean this building is going to dominate a lot more than the Carew does.
October 29, 200816 yr Can you tilt the camera a little higher so we can see the entire building? Thanks for showing us these scenes!
October 29, 200816 yr Awesome. Did you build the model or did you get it from somewhere? With the ease of the photo-match tool you should drop that bad boy in as many images as you can.
October 29, 200816 yr Great photoshop! That really shows how imposing QCS will be compared to the other buildings on that side of downtown.
October 29, 200816 yr I can't tilt the camera because I didn't take the picture :P I built the model by just projecting an existing elevation rendering. I would be happy to drop it into any photo. It's probably not as high in the photo as I depicted, because I built the model on a flat plane. In reality the tower sits slightly lower than the 4th Street entrance.
October 31, 200816 yr The model's nothing special, very simple. If you want the google earth KMZ file, just e-mail me. My email is in my profile.
November 7, 200816 yr When i was coming home from work this evening i saw what looked like a drilling derrick on site. Beginning work on the pilings it seems.
November 10, 200816 yr Pictures look great!!! :clap: Man that pit looks like the sandbox me and my brother use to play in as kids. It looks so fake. So anybody know when the steal will reach street level?
November 10, 200816 yr ^Interesting question... Anybody on the inside know what superstructure will be? I sure hope its steel because concrete towers are dreadfully boring to watch take shape. Just too slow for me.
November 10, 200816 yr Oh man, when that steel superstructure starts going up theres going to be some wicked cool Cincinnati pictures floating around.
November 10, 200816 yr Yea this building is going to ultimately look taller than what everyone is imagining, including the renderings. It always works like that. Cant wait.
November 10, 200816 yr According to the schedule released in the Enquirer earlier this year "vertical construction of building begins in early 2009."
November 10, 200816 yr Thanks for the pictures of the construction site. They are worth a thousand words.
November 11, 200816 yr I can't wait to see the steel going up. There is some building being errected along north 71 a little before Ronald Reagan Hwy on the left. Anybody know what that building is. I've been seeing the steel go up on that building for months and it's getting tall.
November 11, 200816 yr Near Kenwood? It's the Kenwood Town(e) Place development with a Crate and Barrel, Borders, Container Store, Kroger Fresh Fare, and LA fitness, with office on top.
November 11, 200816 yr Hopefully this will bring some competition downtown for more HQ's to move there. Cincy land is super cheap for that isn't it? btw, off topic...does anyone have photos of the building that used to be at 5th and Race?
November 11, 200816 yr btw, off topic...does anyone have photos of the building that used to be at 5th and Race? I may have a few, I will check and let you know...
November 12, 200816 yr Thanks guys for answering my question. I believe it is a building that's apart of Kenwood Towne Place.
November 14, 200816 yr It looks like they have started to assemble the tower crane. I could barely see what looks like the first section.
November 14, 200816 yr Excellent article in today's Cincinnati Business Courier about QCS II http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/11/17/story2.html?b=1226898000^1732026 Looks like steel will begin to rise after the first 5 floors - spring '09?
November 14, 200816 yr Pretty cool graphics...especially the one of the cap. I really wish people would stop calling it a tiara.
November 14, 200816 yr Cincinnati’s tallest skyscraper taking root in finely tuned production http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/11/17/story2.html Twenty-five years since Western & Southern Financial Group awarded Turner and HOK the landmark project, construction has begun. By 2011, the 800,000-square-foot office tower will soar 660 feet, 86 feet above the peak of downtown’s Carew Tower. The road there depends on careful planning by Grace and his team of 15 construction managers. Address: 301 E. Fourth There is no clear definition of a skyscraper. Some say it’s any building exceeding 500 feet in height. Others define a skyscraper by its impact on a city’s skyline. Tons of structural steel 6,000 Tons of reinforcing steel 5,000 Cubic yards of concrete 62,000 Sq. ft. of curtainwall 320,000 Materials costs Turner locked prices in early by ordering materials when it began a University of Kentucky project. But some material costs already had risen as much as 40 percent from September 2007 to May 2008. Western & Southern chose to overspend on three areas: 28 elevators with fast call times, curtainwall cladding and the tiara. Land investment $22 million Construction costs $260 million Design costs $9 million Financing costs $18.5 million Soft costs $13 million 2009: Vertical construction. Mid-2010: Steel tops out. December 2010: Shell complete. Early 2011: Begin moving tenants into building. End of 2012: 100 percent occupancy. ***8,600 people will work in the building. Those workers will generate $55 million in taxes to the city over a 10-year period. Their salaries will pump $1.4 million annually to Cincinnati Public Schools.***
November 14, 200816 yr Thats the kind of report we like seeing^ now we just need one like this for The Banks.
November 15, 200816 yr Damn, I love reading this kind of stuff! $55 mil into the city and $1.4 into the schools? That's what I'm talking about.
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