October 7, 200915 yr Can't imagine this would be the case but there may be an insulator or some other coating that has to be applied on site or removed on site. I was thinking that as well, but then I thought, why wouldn't you do that on the ground before you installed the windows.
October 7, 200915 yr Glass gets incredibly dirty while it's on a truck, siting on the site, and then being installed. Some of the dirtiest curtain walls I've seen were freshly installed. But I agree with nicker above, the client probably wanted to see part of the finished product so they cleaned it.
October 7, 200915 yr Anybody got any pics of that curtain wall that was suppose to be installed this week on the NE corner? It's hard to count but is the core on the 29th floor?
October 7, 200915 yr ^I'll try to snap a pic on my way home. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
October 8, 200915 yr ^ They raised it this morning! “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
October 8, 200915 yr Looks like construction on the above-ground portion of the parking garage is underway, and there are also four round pillars for the lobby in place. It's impossible to really picture right now, but this lobby/garage portion could end up really clumsy. The tower is symmetrical, the lobby/garage part is a mess.
October 8, 200915 yr Two pics from earlier today. First shows the newly installed curtain wall on the North side and the second is the South side and what appears to be installation of curtain wall mounts. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
October 8, 200915 yr I apologize for asking this question at this site, but what has happened to the Banks discussions, and does anyone know if they will ever put up a webcam?
October 8, 200915 yr i say take your future into your own hands and put up your own webcam! it will be empowering!
October 8, 200915 yr I apologize for asking this question at this site, but what has happened to the Banks discussions, and does anyone know if they will ever put up a webcam? The Banks discussion is being cleaned. As for the webcam, there was a webcam, but it was explained in the last page that it was taken down temporarily.
October 8, 200915 yr They are using a hoist two floors up to install curtain wall. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
October 8, 200915 yr You were not specific. As for The Banks web-cam, it took a minute of searching -- http://207.250.90.73/view/index.shtml ...although it has been down for a while... and from what I've heard, it won't be back up for a while.
October 8, 200915 yr What would be cool is if they put a webcam on top of the Roebling bridge so we could watch both;)
October 8, 200915 yr They are using a hoist two floors up to install curtain wall. That seems woefully inefficient. They'll be able to do 20 panels a day tops at that pace?
October 8, 200915 yr You were not specific. As for The Banks web-cam, it took a minute of searching -- http://207.250.90.73/view/index.shtml ...although it has been down for a while... and from what I've heard, it won't be back up for a while. He seemed pretty specific to me...LOL
October 8, 200915 yr Is it just me, or does the blue stuff protecting the curtain wall panels look like the stuff you peel off of a new dishwasher?
October 9, 200915 yr When designing towers like this one, does the office space needed by a company dictate how many floors it will be? Multiple companies in a tower is common but I was wondering if a city goes by a height that they feel comfortable with having. If QCS was 55 stories, do you think leasing it would be that much more difficult?
October 9, 200915 yr Hmh...You would think they wouldn't have trouble leasing it since it's newer and people flock to new buildings like flies on garbage. So, I think they would have had no problem finding tenants. I cannot answer your question about the city though.
October 10, 200915 yr If its a spec buildings, as both QC towers are, sizes are determined by projected market demand and contiguous leasable real estate trends. If its built for a specific tenant then its designed to suit their specific space needs, as well as their projected future needs. Only in rare cases would a municipality dictate the height of a building. A smart developer will only build as much space as they can reasonably lease and finance. As has been brought up many times, QCS is a bit different in that while it is attracting tenants, they are not new to the market. If both buildings are completely leased it the result will most likely still a substantial office vacancy increase. That's not a good thing from many perspectives.
October 13, 200915 yr http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2009/oct/13/skyscrapers-signal-downturn We've discussed this before, but I guess this explains Carew and QCS.
October 16, 200915 yr Any idea how tall it is over the surrounding buildings now? Taller than the chemed?
October 16, 200915 yr I don't think it's quite taller than Chemed yet, but it has to be close. Of course, they could have raised the elevator core another floor this week, and I may just not have noticed yet.
October 16, 200915 yr I don't think it's quite taller than Chemed yet, but it has to be close. Of course, they could have raised the elevator core another floor this week, and I may just not have noticed yet. They raise the core every week starting tuesdays. But I don't think it's taller than Chemed yet because it's only at 31 stories. Could some one take some shots of the back/garage. That webcam is still down!
October 16, 200915 yr Frost Brown Todd selects local architect Frost Brown Todd has tapped downtown-based bhdp to design the law firm’s new office space in the Great American Tower at Queen City Square. Read Full Article Here: http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20091016/BIZ01/310130031/1076/BIZ/Frost+Brown+Todd+selects+local+architect "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
October 16, 200915 yr we need to get the Banks thread up and running. 1. Article in Biz Courier today quotes Trent Germano as saying construction of the apartment buildings and retail will begin within 60 days, and tenants could be in within a year. Grand Opening being planned for opening day 2011. As far as construction dollars are concerned, garages/platform is 54% done and on budget. Lots of other good tidbits in the article--still having difficulty landing retail tenants, including a "limited service hotel" with a "great bar" for the next phase; development podium on north section is ready to build upon; part of garage will open by June 2010; 2. They have fenced off the eastern end of the lawn south of the Freedom Center and are excavating it with a couple of backhoes as I type. So far they have removed a large chunk of sidewalk.
October 16, 200915 yr ^Want to help clean it up? "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 16, 200915 yr Yeah, they've started the ramp to the above-ground Banks garage and also construction of the underground garage south of Freedom Way is now pouring the first deck.
October 17, 200915 yr They attach sections of the crane to the side of the building correct? Yes, every time they raise the crane they tie it down.
October 17, 200915 yr If its a spec buildings, as both QC towers are, sizes are determined by projected market demand and contiguous leasable real estate trends. If its built for a specific tenant then its designed to suit their specific space needs, as well as their projected future needs. Only in rare cases would a municipality dictate the height of a building. A smart developer will only build as much space as they can reasonably lease and finance. As has been brought up many times, QCS is a bit different in that while it is attracting tenants, they are not new to the market. If both buildings are completely leased it the result will most likely still a substantial office vacancy increase. That's not a good thing from many perspectives.
October 17, 200915 yr Actually, most municipalities have strict guidelines when it comes to building heights. In Cincinnati, as in most major cities, height determinations are calculated utilizing an FAR, or Floor Area Ratio. In essence, whatever the floor area ratio, which in the case of East Third Street I believe is 11, the total amount of square footage of the building is restricted to 11 times the square footage of the underlying building site. In the case of Queen City Square, the new tower occupies a site that is roughly 80,000 s.f. Thus the total building area would be limited to 880,000 square feet. From what I've seen of the building's plans, at least three stories will occupy the entire half-block, taking approximately 240,000 s.f of allowable space. That leaves 640,000 s.f. for the tower itself. Approximately 120,000 s.f of the first three floors are also included in the tower, which would bring the total to 760,000 s.f. Now, a developer could build a much higher building if the floorplate was smaller. But given the size of the underlying building site and the size of the floorplate, I'd say that QCII has maxed out its buildable space and height. The "Tiara", since it does not include any useable floor space, is not included in the equation.
October 17, 200915 yr I have some time to help clean the Banks thread. Msg me. Will do. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 17, 200915 yr ^Want to help clean it up? ah...well....maybe a new one is in order? Nice try, but no :). "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 19, 200915 yr New photos on SkyscraperPage: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=4511446
October 19, 200915 yr New photos on SkyscraperPage: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=4511446 Whoever that is with the inside access needs to be a member on UO and start posting these over here!
October 19, 200915 yr Man at this pace they're going to be topped out by the end of the year! You sure they aren't ahead of schedule, lol! They only have 10 more floors to go or about 10 weeks.
October 19, 200915 yr Yeah, they've started the ramp to the above-ground Banks garage and also construction of the underground garage south of Freedom Way is now pouring the first deck. I didn't realize there were above ground parking at the Banks. Do you know how many levels there will be?
October 20, 200915 yr I didn't realize there were above ground parking at the Banks. Do you know how many levels there will be? I think it will depend on the block. They will be discrete from the street of course. The phase one block appears to have a 3 or 4 level interior garage based on the rendering.
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