July 9, 200816 yr One thing I never understood about this is, if Cincy population is found to be 10% higher, do we assume that every city in the US is 10% higher.
July 9, 200816 yr One thing I never understood about this is, if Cincy population is found to be 10% higher, do we assume that every city in the US is 10% higher. probably not, but the older the city's housing stock, the more they would benefit.
July 9, 200816 yr ^Really? That high you think? One thing I never understood about this is, if Cincy population is found to be 10% higher, do we assume that every city in the US is 10% higher. probably not, but the older the city's housing stock, the more they would benefit. Exactly, It may be a stretch and I know that things happening this month will not count, but I have noticed an influx of new residents on my street alone. Houses that have been up for sale and or foreclosures (ALOT sitting vacant for years) are now full and sold. The most rescent sale nextdoor to me came from Indiana this past weekend. I have counted over 10-12 properties with people moving into what used to be vacant housing in the Cheviot area near St. Martins, Harding, Applegate, and Darwin. Affordability, walkability, and that almighty safety factor will be KEY.
July 9, 200816 yr Actually, I don't know. I was just thinking about that. I guess they would be by themselves. But some of these streets run pretty close if not through Westwood.
July 10, 200816 yr ^ Good point. I remember hearing back in 2006 that LA's housing was 95% full. Can you even imagine what Cincinnati would be like if the housing was at 95% of capacity? (For that matter, how god-awful was the 5% of LA's housing that no one would live in?) Cincy would be a far more expensive city, but neighborhoods like OTR would be unbelievable.
July 10, 200816 yr Growing Cincinnati beats trend By Jane Prendergast • [email protected] • July 10, 2008 Major Ohio cities City July 2006 July 2007 Akron 209,316 207,934 Cincinnati 331,632 332,458 Cleveland 443,109 438,042 Columbus 742,976 747,755 Dayton 156,691 155,461 Toledo 297,806 295,029 New U.S. Census estimates out today show Cincinnati grew again in 2007 while most of Ohio's other big cities didn't - and while Cleveland lost more people than any other big city in the country. Cincinnati and Columbus - Ohio's capital and the 15th largest city in the country - counted more residents in 2007 than 2006, according to the estimates. But the rest of Ohio's biggest cities - Cleveland, Akron, Dayton and Toledo - all lost people. Indianapolis, Lexington/Fayette County and Louisville/Jefferson County also gained population. http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080710/NEWS01/807100317/1168/NEWS
July 10, 200816 yr ^ I think the 332,458 is BS. I see areas like Mt. Lookout, Columbia-Tusculum, EE, etc. booming. There's not a doubt in my mind that when the census is challenged, they'll overturn more residents.
July 10, 200816 yr I WIN! not quite...you went over! i don't think anyone won.. lets see who wins when the revised numbers come out after the challenge
July 10, 200816 yr Is Cheviot counted in the Cincinnati City Census? No, Cheviot is their own municipality. The only thing, to my knowledge, they share with Cincinnati is the public school system.
July 10, 200816 yr The metro was gaining without Cincinnati gaining population. Middletown also posted a gain in population. With that said I would suspect that the metro population is continuing on its very modest growth rate.
July 10, 200816 yr Another booming year for babies at Good Sam http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/07/07/daily36.html
July 10, 200816 yr Another booming year for babies at Good Sam http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/07/07/daily36.html HAHAHA.... "+1 for cincinnati", right rando?...hilarious
July 10, 200816 yr The 2007 Census Estimates (with 2006 numbers listed 2nd) for MSA are Cincinnati: 2,133,678 2,121,128 Cleveland: 2,096,471 2,105,319 Columbus: 1,754,337 1,734,563
July 10, 200816 yr NYC here we come. Ok not really, east siders generally need to remember that there are declines in the western and northern parts of the city that would mitigate against growth on the south and east sides. It will be fascinating to see what the racial demographics look like at the next census.
July 10, 200816 yr I'd disagree on the whole. Certain neighborhoods will certainly have continued their trend toward A/A, but the east side and d/t growth is heavily white.
July 10, 200816 yr C-Dawg, these census figures are driving you nuts. You can't stand that Cincinnati is gaining in population. I predict that you'll be on here night and day for weeks replying with the same thing over and over. Fact is, if this recent report showed us losing in population you wouldn't be so quick to "take these annual counts with a grain of salt."
July 10, 200816 yr If Cleveland doesn't believe the numbers are accurate, tell mayor Jackson to file a challenge.
July 11, 200816 yr ^^ No kidding - I usually skip over the posts as they are either about getting drunk (and possibly a fight) or somehow explaining why good news for Cincinnati is really bad. Not that getting drunk is always a bad thing... In the meantime it is very nice to see a positive headline in the Enquirer in regard to the city proper population. It is also interesting to see that some cities that have annexed land/merged with their home county have really slowed in growth, which shows that unless cities keep annexing new land they will eventually see slow, no, or negative growth as well. It is only a matter of time. Jacksonville might be safe for awhile as they seem to have one of the most ridiculous boundaries of all, 885 square miles. Additionally, and what I think is more important is that even if the population is off the trend is very small growth, which is much better than a rapid decline. I think we can assume at least the trends are close.
July 11, 200816 yr By the 2010 census, can we expect to see a population of 335,000 perhaps? With all of the construction projects ongoing, perhaps we can bump the high-end to around 336,000. How did NKY fair out in this?
July 11, 200816 yr ...Cincinnati led the way for everyone else. That may be the first time I've ever heard those words... taking a second to soak that in... WOW!!! :clap:
July 11, 200816 yr ^ Deep down he really loves this town. ;) He'll be on this thread 24/7 (too late! ... lol ) ;)
July 16, 200816 yr racist! What, recognizing obvious white flight that is still prevelant everywhere in the Midwest? We're talking about 60-year trends here coupled with slowing birth rates amongst white folks. Overall, it's a pretty safe assumption. I think the white percentage will drop in every sizable city in Ohio. I absolutely disagree. Although the Ohio and the rest of the Midwest may be less effected by national trends than other regions, there's no reason to believe that the population patterns of the latter half of the twentieth century are going to persist in the Midwest in general or Ohio in particular while the remainder of the country (including the rural South) is experiencing steady increases in Hispanic population. The things, particulary good opportunities of employment, that brought Southern blacks to Ohio in the 20th century brought white Appalachians and others as well, and the lack of those types of jobs in the state, not to mention the vastly improved economic conditions for black Americans at the end of the 20th century when compared to the beginning of the 20th century, are all pretty strong indicators. In Cincinnati, at least, the percentage of the population identifying as African-American is declining, slightly.
July 17, 200816 yr Of course the ACS also says the city population has gone from 331,000 to 302,000, while the census estimates it has gone from 331,000 to 332,000. Remember also, that this comparison is starting at 1950, and while the population did not change from much from 1950 to 1960 the makeup probably did some. 1950 503998 1960 502550 1970 452524 1980 385457 1990 364040 2000 331285 2007 332458 Interestingly, from its peak the city basically lost 117,000 in the 20 years from 1960 to 1980. This is when the most drastic changes in population and makeup likely occurred. In the 27 years since the city has lost 53,000 with the estimates showing the population as leveling off. It seems to have stabilized and hopefully the estimates will be confirmed in the census. Although the percentages will change slightly the makeup will probably be similar to what it is now. I have just not seen a breakdown for the estimate of 332458. Also, for one of the first boomtowns to retain 65% of its peak population, boundaries unchanged, is not bad relatively speaking.
July 17, 200816 yr ^Really? There's no evidence of that in any estimate: 2006 ACS Black or African American: 44.3% White: 50.4% 2000 Census Black or African American: 42.9% White: 53.0% Basically, I'd wait until 2010 to try to argue a decades-old trend has not only stopped in its tracks, but reversed. "But the white exodus out of the city continues. In the last half of the 20th century, the white population of Cincinnati plummeted 425,313 to 175,492. At the same time, the black population increased 82 percent, to 142,176. If those trends continue, Cincinnati may well be a majority African-American city by the 2010 census."- Cincinnati Enquirer I make no pretense that my assessment is anything but qualitative. That being said you have a lot of faith in the persistance of statistics irrespective of the real world factors that influence them. Once again, I'd like to see why you or the Enquirer expects the population trends of the late 20th century to continue indefinitely when the circumstances that created them no longer exist. Are you expecting a massive swell in Irish population as well, just because that happened in the past?
September 11, 200816 yr Survey: Cincinnati Jewish population stable http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2008/09/08/daily34.html The number of Jewish people in Cincinnati has been growing at a stable rate over the last few decades, with an estimated 12,500 Jewish households in Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky, a new study indicates. The 2008 Jewish Community Study, sponsored by the Jewish Federation of Cincinnati, the Jewish Foundation of Cincinnati and the Manuel D. and Rhoda Mayerson Foundation, was the first statistical look at the area’s Jewish population since 1987. That study estimated 10,200 Jewish households in the area.
September 11, 200816 yr Does anyone know if their was a heavy Jewish population on the Westside at one point in history? I'm guessing this to explain all of the many Jewish cemeteries scattered throughout Price Hill, Westwood, and Green Twp.
September 11, 200816 yr Actually, most of that was purchased because it was outside of city limits and was cheap. Cincy's Jewish community was focused on the Reading Road corridor until it Cross-County and the city of Reading when they turned right and headed up the hill into the suburbs.
April 7, 200916 yr Echoing Hispanic growth http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090407/NEWS01/904070333/1055/NEWS A look at the bulletin board schedule and a walk-through tour of the Su Casa Hispanic ministry's Carthage headquarters illustrates its growth and increased influence in Greater Cincinnati. Between 4,000 and 5,000 people participated in the ministry's programs in 2008, director Sofia Moyano-Kleckner said - reflecting the fast-growing Hispanic population of the region. Over the decade, in addition to helping hundreds of people adapt to life in the United States and offer help during the recession, Su Casa has helped Greater Cincinnati understand the national, class and educational diversity inherent to the Hispanic population.
April 9, 200916 yr I did not see these numbers for Cincinnati anywhere, but an increase of 146,000 since 2000 is not too bad. It seems like we can match last decade's increase (165,000), and if we can start seeing an increase in net domestic immigration (from a small negative number) the metro will be in good shape: Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN 2008 2,155,137 2007 2,143,824 2006 2,119,959 2005 2,101,215 2004 2,082,796 2003 2,065,531 2002 2,049,629 2001 2,035,394 2000 2,014,615 (July)
April 9, 200916 yr If we are serious about getting these numbers up, folks need to get busy in time for April '10. Plan your life accordingly.
April 9, 200916 yr With the economy being as bad as it is. Expect to see more rural counties added to the MSA like Adams and Highland counties as people drive further away looking for work.
July 1, 200915 yr Census snaps new picture of region http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090701/CINCI/90701002/1055/NEWS/Census+snaps+new+picture+of+region Population estimates released by the U.S. Census Bureau today provide a snapshot of which communities are growing fastest -- and which are in decline. • Cincinnati's population estimate grew by 10 people from 2007 to 2008 -- on paper, anyway. Because the Census Bureau made some revisions to its previous estimates, there are actually 1,199 fewer people in the city than we thought there were a year ago. • Western Hamilton County townships saw steep population declines in the past year, according to the estimates. Whitewater, Crosby and Miami townships together slumped 6 percent in a year and 14 percent since 2000. (But they also seem to be on a statistical roller coaster -- the population estimates were up 11 percent the previous year.) • Hamilton Township in Warren County remains the fastest-growing community in the region since the 2000 census -- but its growth last year slowed to just 1.6 percent. • Unincorporated Boone County grew 3.1 percent in the 2008 estimates -- the fastest annual growth in Northern Kentucky but well off its pace from earlier in the decade. Check out the fun map here - http://dunes.cincinnati.com/data/census/2008est/
July 1, 200915 yr This data is so irrelevant (nationally and locally) because we are so far from the last census and it is only mildly predictive of 2010 since it is pre-depression.
March 24, 201015 yr Estimates out today. Cincy is plus 162k so far this decade. http://www.census.gov/popest/metro/metro.html
March 24, 201015 yr My prediction, the census will bring surprises with it because of the Great Recession.
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