February 10, 201510 yr Michelle, from The Plain Dealer .responded to a question I posed to heron the comments section. I asked if she had any insight into the architectural elevations adjusted from January's presentation to February's presentation to the planning commission This was her response "Thanks for commenting. I just typed a very long response to your question, and then the commenting system ate it. So here is a CliffsNotes version: * In January, downtown/Flats design review members said they felt the facade looked flat. They approved the massing, scale and footprint of the building, but they wanted the developer and architect to spend more time on the details. Some members liked the taller, more compact building. One said the building looked like it had been there forever, which was a good thing. Others, though, questioned whether the design was too conservative. * Planning commission members mostly focused on the parking structure, which they didn't love. They asked about parking ratios, the elimination of the swimming pool and the lack of retail. They didn't provide a ton of design commentary. * At the design review meeting last week, two members noted the amount of work Clayco put into multiple revisions and said that they thought the renderings - not the building - might be the problem. "I think the building is nicer than you've drawn it," member Jack Bialosky Jr. said. * I don't know the details of any discussions between the developer, the architect and city planning staff between the January and February meetings. Michelle" Fascinating two members blamed the renderings as not detailing how nice the building will be. Isn't that the only thing close to showing how it will look? The finished approved project definitely seemed to go in a lackluster approach.
February 10, 201510 yr That'd be great, but I'd lay money that it will fill up just as quick as the living units. And frankly, I'm tired of hearing people whine about it. It's a fact of life: the affluent people who are moving Downtown may love urban living, but they are mostly going to have cars and will want parking for them. Whoa, who's whining? I was making a joke based on the 60s anti-war slogan "What if they held a war and no one showed up?" And are you certain the students living in this building will be affluent? I like having the height on Euclid, and if having a not-so-elegant building (with a parking deck on Prospect) is the price for it, I'm OK with that. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 10, 201510 yr That'd be great, but I'd lay money that it will fill up just as quick as the living units. And frankly, I'm tired of hearing people whine about it. It's a fact of life: the affluent people who are moving Downtown may love urban living, but they are mostly going to have cars and will want parking for them. Which is why it's really, really disappointing the initial design changed so much.
February 10, 201510 yr It wasn't directed primarily at you, KJP. In every discussion of Downtown residences, someone has to moan about the fact that the developer is providing parking, period. I get not liking the way they do it, or demanding better design, but realistically it's still required. Someday maybe it won't be. And have you heard anything about this student housing being less than market rate? I haven't, and unless that fact has just slipped through the cracks, then yes, I'm certain the students living in this building will be affluent.
February 10, 201510 yr I'm fine with the design and the parking deck. Disappointed about the ground floor, which I understand to be a residents-only gym. Is that still the plan?
February 10, 201510 yr And have you heard anything about this student housing being less than market rate? I haven't, and unless that fact has just slipped through the cracks, then yes, I'm certain the students living in this building will be affluent. CSU is attracting more students from the pricey East Coast, so a market-rate apartment in Cleveland is comparably priced to a subsidized apartment on the East Coast. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 10, 201510 yr I'm fine with the design and the parking deck. Disappointed about the ground floor, which I understand to be a residents-only gym. Is that still the plan? Sadly, it appears so. "But Coyne and Lillian Kuri, another commission member, reiterated that they wished Clayco had incorporated retail - a coffee shop, for example - into the project. The building's Euclid side will house a cafe and a fitness center, but those spaces will be accessible only to residents and their guests."
February 10, 201510 yr I'm fine with the design and the parking deck. Disappointed about the ground floor, which I understand to be a residents-only gym. Is that still the plan? Sadly, it appears so. "But Coyne and Lillian Kuri, another commission member, reiterated that they wished Clayco had incorporated retail - a coffee shop, for example - into the project. The building's Euclid side will house a cafe and a fitness center, but those spaces will be accessible only to residents and their guests." Boo. This is right outside the front doors of the theater district, and they decide to exclude the public. Another prime chunk of Euclid frontage closed off for the duration of a new building's existence. Compares most unfavorably to what U of Akron did at Main and Exchange.
February 10, 201510 yr I'm fine with the design and the parking deck. Disappointed about the ground floor, which I understand to be a residents-only gym. Is that still the plan? Sadly, it appears so. "But Coyne and Lillian Kuri, another commission member, reiterated that they wished Clayco had incorporated retail - a coffee shop, for example - into the project. The building's Euclid side will house a cafe and a fitness center, but those spaces will be accessible only to residents and their guests." Boo. This is right outside the front doors of the theater district, and they decide to exclude the public. Another prime chunk of Euclid frontage closed off for the duration of a new building's existence. Compares most unfavorably to what U of Akron did at Main and Exchange. The concept therefore essentially makes it a dorm hall on Euclid Avenue then.
February 11, 201510 yr The concept therefore essentially makes it a dorm hall on Euclid Avenue then. Hmmm, limit your customer base to residents only. That's an interesting strategy from a financial standpoint.
February 11, 201510 yr ^Not if membership fees/dues are mandatory for anyone who lives there, regardless of whether they use the fitness center.
February 11, 201510 yr ^Not if membership fees/dues are mandatory for anyone who lives there, regardless of whether they use the fitness center. True, but that sounds like wrong layered on top of wrong.
February 11, 201510 yr It's not great, but at least they are active uses that will be visible from the sidewalk (assuming no closed blinds). Better than management offices or ground floor apartments, IMHO.
February 11, 201510 yr Well yes, but sidewalk visibility is a questionable virtue for a gym. Brings new meaning, and awkwardness, to the term window shopping. Isn't it proper to avert your eyes in a situation like that? And aren't big windows along Main Street supposed to serve the exact opposite function? Words cannot describe how silly this is at a conceptual level. The fact that it was even considered is alarming... and it was approved!
February 11, 201510 yr Well yes, but sidewalk visibility is a questionable virtue for a gym. Brings new meaning, and awkwardness, to the term window shopping. Isn't it proper to avert your eyes in a situation like that? And aren't big windows along Main Street supposed to serve the exact opposite function? Words cannot describe how silly this is at a conceptual level. The fact that it was even considered is alarming... and it was approved! I've always found it kind of creepy that a lot of gyms and martial arts studios do that. Did we not already have a fitness room at my plant (as if I need it, having a 4 year old) and I was in the market for a gym, this would be a show stopper. I really don't understand it...
February 11, 201510 yr It's not great, but at least they are active uses that will be visible from the sidewalk (assuming no closed blinds). Better than management offices or ground floor apartments, IMHO. Or blank walls, which are streetlife killers. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 13, 201510 yr Firm buys former City Blue Building near CSU for apartment conversion By STAN BULLARD Woda Group plans to convert the five-story building at 1937 Prospect Ave. into luxury lofts in an estimated $14 million project. http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20150108/FREE/150109918/columbus-firm-buys-former-city-blue-building-near-csu-for-apartment These guys aren't wasting time moving forward! Landmark status puts them in contention for historic tax credits.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2015/02122015/index.php Cleveland Landmarks Commission AGENDA - February 12, 2015 CLEVELAND LANDMARK NOMINATION Stuyvesant Building 1937 Prospect Avenue In 1962: In 2014: "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 13, 201510 yr Good news! That building has been an eyesore for years, though still maintained. Probably a good pickup for them as it still has good bones. Hopefully some of the others in the area will fill in as well!
February 20, 201510 yr E. 22nd St. streetscape and Stuyvesant apartment project inching closer.... MANDATORY REFERRALS: Ordinance No. 125-15(Ward 5/Councilmember Cleveland): Giving final consent of the City of Cleveland to the State of Ohio for the reconstructing and streetscaping of East 22nd Street from Orange Avenue to Euclid Avenue; and causing payment to the State of Ohio for the City's share of the improvement. Ordinance No. xxx-15(Ward 5/Councilmember Cleveland): Designating the Stuyvesant Motor Company Building as a Cleveland Landmark. http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/02202105/index.php
March 1, 201510 yr So I guess I will put this here but did anybody know they are holding concerts at Trinity Cathedral thru 2015. I mean as a regular music venue with mainstream bookings. It would be awesome to see a concert there, the sound would have to be unique for sure. Check out some of the acts coming up and here is a link that tells more about it. http://www.ticketweb.com/snl/VenueListings.action?venueId=411085&pl= http://trinitycleveland.org/blog/2014/events/red-wanting-blue-to-kick-off-cathedral-concerts-series-december-5/
March 1, 201510 yr E. 22nd St. streetscape and Stuyvesant apartment project inching closer.... MANDATORY REFERRALS: Ordinance No. xxx-15(Ward 5/Councilmember Cleveland): Designating the Stuyvesant Motor Company Building as a Cleveland Landmark. A little hstory, in case it hasn't been posted here, or I missed it - http://home.comcast.net/~sarahdyoung/hudsonstuyvesant.html
March 2, 201510 yr I saw Red Wanting Blue at Trinity and I have tickets to go see the Airborne Toxic Event. March 13thI. I've been fascinated at seeing concerts in churches ever since I saw 30 Seconds to Mars do an acoustic set at a church in SOHO in 2013. Needless to say, the acoustics at the church in SOHO as well as Trinity are fantastic. I encourage anyone who loves live music to check it out.
March 17, 201510 yr Up for approval. Same renders as posted before are at: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/02062015/index.php City Planning Commission Agenda for February 6, 2015 DOWNTOWN/FLATS DESIGN REVIEW DF2013-092 – 1750 Euclid Student Housing/Parking Structure New Construction: Seeking Final Approval Project Address: 1750 Euclid Avenue Project Representatives: Rob Lochner, Clayco Realty Group Bob Neely, Forum Studio Update.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2015/crr04-06-2015.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals APRIL 6, 2015 9:30 Calendar No. 15-046: 1720-1750 Euclid Avenue Ward 5 Phyllis Cleveland 11 Notices Jewish Community Federation, owner, and CRG-Cleveland State Housing LLC prospective purchaser propose to construct a 237 unit apartment building in an E5 General Retail Business District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances: 1. Section 355.04 which states that the maximum gross floor area allowed is 55,521 square feet and the proposed area is 270,248 square feet. 2. Section 357.08 which states that the minimum required rear yard is 112 feet and none are proposed. 3. Section 357.09(b)(2)© which states that the minimum required side yard is 56 feet and the proposed side yard is 13’-10”. 4. Note: Lot consolidation and CPC approval are required. (Filed March 3, 2015) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 17, 201510 yr A small project: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/03202015/index.php City Planning Commission Agenda for March 20, 2015 DF2015-015 – Ozanne Office Addition and Renovation: Seeking Final Approval Project Address: 1635 East 25th Street Project Representatives: Shawn Michael, LDA Architecture Nick Muhvic, LDA Architecture "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 17, 201510 yr A small project: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/03202015/index.php City Planning Commission Agenda for March 20, 2015 DF2015-015 – Ozanne Office Addition and Renovation: Seeking Final Approval Project Address: 1635 East 25th Street Project Representatives: Shawn Michael, LDA Architecture Nick Muhvic, LDA Architecture LDA = Literally Didn't Attempt, this is tragic.
March 17, 201510 yr Technically the new construction is built up to the sidewalk (on the E. 25th St. side), and creates more density by connecting the two existent buildings. So... yay progress? Yeah I know, it's still fugly.
March 18, 201510 yr It looks like a doublewide church, in a field in Brunswick.... Hopefully it is actually built of doublewide construction. That way there are wheels underneath. So we can tow this hideous thing out of here.
March 18, 201510 yr Not sure everyone's comments reflect that the construction is only the connector between the two buildings. The corner building is a former church which is used by Ozanne, and they also use the warehouse type building facing East 25th. The only thing they are doing is filling in the driveway between the two structures... Just did some additional googling, and the church was formerly the Christ Lutheran Church for the Deaf (now meeting at 2203 Superior Ave) http://www.clevelanddeafchurch.org/about.html
March 18, 201510 yr Let's just be glad the company stayed and expanded in the city. Its a nondescript building but it serves their purpose. And cleans that corner up a bit.
June 9, 201510 yr From the Campus District's e-mail newsletter.... IN THE CAMPUS DISTRICT June 9, 2015 Asset Plus Plans Renovation of the YMCA Building on Prospect to Become The Domain According to David Salinas, General Manager of the Domain at the YMCA building on Prospect Avenue at East 22nd Street, Phase 1 of a planned total renovation of the residential portion of the Prospect Avenue YMCA building may start as early as next month if historic tax credits are approved by the State of Ohio. The renovations, planned to run from July 2015 to June 2016, will start on the top floor of the building and proceed floor by floor each month. This will enable students who lease the efficiency apartments for the 2015-16 school year to stay in the building and move up into renovated units as the floors are completed. The rents at The Domain start at $560/month for this coming school year with new rates starting in Summer of 2016. The building is also expected to host Republican National Convention attendees in July 2016. Phase 1 has 147 units with the potential for a Phase 2 with an additional 120 units in the space now occupied by the YMCA. The YMCA's expected move to the Galleria is planned for February 2016 and will allow the building to add 2 bedroom units. It is anticipated that construction on phase 2 could start in Fall 2016. The amenities planned for the Domain include a state of the art fitness center with "fitness on demand" work out programs, a computer room and study lounge. Owner, Asset Plus is a Houston-based real estate management firm that develops student, senior, military and affordable housing nationwide. They currently operate 110 student housing properties with over 70,000 beds. Jonathan Sandvick of Sandvick Architects is the architect for the project. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 10, 201510 yr That's quite a nice amount of units being added! Makes sense though if they're all efficiencies geared towards students. Also, the name sounds pretty diabolical :evil:
June 12, 201510 yr The 11 story building from Clayco finally took another step forward: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20150612/NEWS/150619906/jewish-federation-of-cleveland-sells-former-hq-for-3-6-million Jewish Federation of Cleveland sells former HQ for $3.6 million Plans to build an 11-story student apartment building on the site of the former Jewish Federation of Cleveland headquarters, 1750 Euclid Ave. have taken a big step forward. The Beachwood-based Jewish Federation on Thursday, June 10, sold its former headquarters in downtown Cleveland and an adjoining property for $3.6 million, according to a deed filed in Cuyahoga County. The buyer is Edge CSU Student Living LLC, an affiliate of St. Louis- and Chicago-based construction contractor and developer Clayco, which proposed the project a year ago. Clayco in February received approvals for its plans from Cleveland City Planning Commission. ...
June 20, 20159 yr The 11 story building from Clayco finally took another step forward: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20150612/NEWS/150619906/jewish-federation-of-cleveland-sells-former-hq-for-3-6-million Jewish Federation of Cleveland sells former HQ for $3.6 million Plans to build an 11-story student apartment building on the site of the former Jewish Federation of Cleveland headquarters, 1750 Euclid Ave. have taken a big step forward. The Beachwood-based Jewish Federation on Thursday, June 10, sold its former headquarters in downtown Cleveland and an adjoining property for $3.6 million, according to a deed filed in Cuyahoga County. The buyer is Edge CSU Student Living LLC, an affiliate of St. Louis- and Chicago-based construction contractor and developer Clayco, which proposed the project a year ago. Clayco in February received approvals for its plans from Cleveland City Planning Commission. ... I don't understand why a parking garage is needed?
June 20, 20159 yr I don't understand why a parking garage is needed? C'mon MTS, you know why. The lenders probably demanded the parking so the tenants could have cars and be able to drive across the street to attend class or to Heinen's several blocks west. The best part is it will increase the per-unit construction costs by an average of $30,000 to $50,000. To suggest any other alternative would be downright socialist and un-American. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 20, 20159 yr I don't understand why a parking garage is needed? C'mon MTS, you know why. The lenders probably demanded the parking so the tenants could have cars and be able to drive across the street to attend class or to Heinen's several blocks west. The best part is it will increase the per-unit construction costs by an average of $30,000 to $50,000. To suggest any other alternative would be downright socialist and un-American. LMAO! I'm just stumped as to why this is happening when we have the BRT right there. As more apartments are added, cars will be less needed downtown. This just frustrates me.
June 20, 20159 yr Because,sorry to inform you, the vast majority of downtown residents do indeed have cars, whether or not you like it. They would probably like someolace to put them, as well. Parking will certainly be an extra charge, it isn't driving up the cost of the units. It is pretty asinine that we have to cover this point with every new downtown development.
June 20, 20159 yr It's better to give the people what they want and build up the population. More people living downtown will do more for the city than anything else. It's hard to get out to the burbs to see friends and family or visit various retail/entertainment establishments without a car in Ohio. I'd go carfree in Chicago in a heartbeat but I don't know if I'd want to go beyond car-lite in Ohio. Just no surface parking. Yay for garages built above street level retail.
June 20, 20159 yr I think were in the transition period for downtown between cars and car free. Since I moved downtown a little over a year ago, I've loved that I can walk just about anywhere, and I walk unless I absolutely can't. That being said, having a car and thus parking is very important. Forgetting that I sadly work in Solon, my family and alot of friends all live in the suburbs or further, so I need a way to get to them, and they in turn need a place to park when they visit. And perhaps most importantly, until there's a place to buy Burberry, Armani, Diesel, etc. downtown, I need an easy way of getting to Beachwood :-D
June 20, 20159 yr Because,sorry to inform you, the vast majority of downtown residents do indeed have cars, whether or not you like it. They would probably like someolace to put them, as well. Parking will certainly be an extra charge, it isn't driving up the cost of the units. It is pretty asinine that we have to cover this point with every new downtown development. Sorry to inconvenience you. You're right. Every downtown development should provide the exact same number of parking spaces in them, as per the building code, because as we know a one-size-fits-all approach to housing+transportation should never expect to change through the course of downtown becoming more of a true urban neighborhood. Nor as CSU becomes less of a commuter school and more of a residential school, nor should we expect developers to recognize that many students don't want, need or can't afford to cars or the housing+tuition centered around a campus still designed to accommodate so many cars at $30,000 per parking space. Thus, we should never question developers or otherwise demand change from their cookie-cutter approaches. Instead, we should all just be robots, consume what we're given, and do what we're told. Further discussion of unimaginative, cookie-cutter approaches to housing+transportation should have its own thread, since further discussion of it here will probably be squashed under the guise of being off-topic. So here's the new thread..... http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,30169.msg760881.html#msg760881 Seriously though, there's different ways of offering housing, car parking, and housing with car-parking. And I would hope that when the cookie-cutter development molds are questioned or new ideas are suggested, that we don't robotically respond with "here we go again." The only way we can break out of the mold is to continually question it and raise awareness of alternatives. If we don't, then that's what is truly asinine. Carry on.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 20, 20159 yr C'mon, KJP. I lived downtown for a decade, don't treat me like I have never left North Ridgeville. I can tell you for a fact that East 4th st, where I lived, runs out of parking spaces even quicker than it runs out of units. No matter what the zoning code says, developers are going to provide parking as long as potential residents demand it, and are paying for it. Sorry we are real people, and not just utopian props.
June 21, 20159 yr Which includes a wide range of preferences. I think these should be acknowledged and served. Is trying to do better a utopian concept? EDIT: Check out some of the developments in the Pittsburgh thread. Amazing that they offer fewer parking spaces than the number of housing units (in a development that also includes offices and retail), or offers no parking except for bicycles. Not utopian. An alternative to offer more affordable housing in response to gentrification. EDIT2: So having one new building downtown with little or no new parking isn't utopian. Forcing high parking minimums into every building downtown IS utopian. If any building is to have little or no new parking, I would think a student apartment building like this would be perfect. Maybe someday Cleveland can up with other, more progressive cities its size in offering these housing choices. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 21, 20159 yr Everybody pays for their parking separate in the Downtown market. If you don't want parking, you aren't paying for it. It still fills up quick. When that ceases to be the case, then bring on the residential buildings with fewer parking spaces!
June 30, 20159 yr The Stuyvesant Motor Co. Building: Perhaps best known to Clevelanders as the old City Blue building, this empty Prospect Avenue property is set to become apartments and indoor parking. Woda Group, Inc., a Columbus-area real estate company, bought the building at the end of last year and expects to renovate it to appeal to Cleveland State University faculty or suburban homeowners looking for spacious apartments in the city. Woda asked for just under $2 million in tax credits, but the state awarded only $877,438 to the project. The development agency said the property could receive the remaining $1.12 million in credits if other tax-credit projects fall through or come in under budget. http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2015/06/clevelands_leader_building_akr.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 11, 20159 yr From an e-mailed notice.... http://us6.campaign-archive1.com/?u=3a103b73242a42a334298bd43&id=2b665028a8&e=07adb033c3 Juvenile Court Building Pre-Submittal Meeting This Week! Campus District, Inc. has released a Request for Proposals for the historic Juvenile Court Complex located at the corner of East 22 St. and Cedar Avenue. The building is 166,750 square feet in size and sits on approximately 4.7 acres of prime land in the City of Cleveland. It was constructed in the 1930s, with a residential addition made in 1964. The building is a local landmark making it eligible for historic tax credits. The property also includes a 1.7 acre parking lot on the north side of Cedar Avenue. The Juvenile Court Complex is centrally located on East 22nd Street within the Campus District of downtown Cleveland, a short 15 minute walk to East 9th and Euclid. It is in the heart of a thriving and ever expanding institutional and residential district with student and market rate housing being built to the north, mixed income townhouses being built to the south and east and all three of the anchor institutions along East 22nd Street investing tens of millions in their campuses. Cleveland State University (CSU), St. Vincent Charity Medical Center, and Cuyahoga Community College (Tri-C) anchor an "eds and meds" district from Euclid Avenue to Orange Avenue that is comprised of dozens of businesses and other institutions. The Juvenile Court building is located in a busy part of the Campus District with approximately 27,000 college students attending school at CSU and Tri-C and another 15,000 people employed within the District. East 22nd Street, from Euclid to Orange is undergoing a $4.2 million infrastructure investment with new pavement with bike lanes and pedestrian amenities, planted medians, expanded sidewalks with new benches, landscaping, and public art, making East 22nd the north/south Main Street of the Campus District, directly in front of the Juvenile Court Complex. To RSVP for the pre-submittal informational meeting being held on Friday, August 14th at 10 am at 2254 Euclid Avenue and/or a site visit on August 18th or 19th, please contact Michelle Brzoska at [email protected]. For more information on the building and the RFP, please contact Bobbi Reichtell at [email protected] or by phone at (216) 650-6945. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 19, 20159 yr No graphics yet.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/08212015/DRC2015_8_20.pdf Downtown/Flats Design Review Agenda Thursday August 20th, 2015 Cleveland City Hall Room 514 *Schematic Design Approval 1. Project: DF2015-061: Cleveland International Schools Project Address: East 22nd & Payne Avenue Project Representative: Jeff Henderson, Then Design Architecture *Denotes agenda item will also appear before the Cleveland City Planning Commission the following day, Friday, August 21th, 2015. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 31, 20159 yr The above agenda item was postponed to Design Review's Sept. 3 meeting: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/09042015/DRC2015_9_3.pdf "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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