August 19, 20168 yr Pretty sure those protesters have been there for every CSU construction project since I moved here 6 years ago. To bring this back on subject--the building does have way more of a presence than I had anticipated. Hope it continues to impress me.
August 20, 20168 yr ^^ Agree. I think I'm in the minority as one of those who thought the design was pretty decent. Will bring some great presence to Eucild. Unfortunately the Propsect end leaves a lot to be desired. I think I've mentioned it before, but Prospect from the Hanna to the innerbelt is turning into a glorified back alley. My hovercraft is full of eels
September 12, 20168 yr Bye-bye Brutalism: Tri-C Metro revises a gloomy, midcentury modern campus (photos, video) By Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer on September 12, 2016 at 8:05 AM, updated September 12, 2016 at 12:41 PM CLEVELAND, Ohio - The Metro Campus of Cuyahoga Community College is about to undergo a much-needed heart transplant, architecturally speaking. On Tuesday, Sept. 27, Tri-C plans to break ground for a radical, $38 million redo of the three-story Campus Center that will strip the building back to its structural frame and turn it from a brick and concrete bunker into a light, welcoming and transparent campus centerpiece. In addition, Tri-C is already underway with an estimated $28 million landscaping project scheduled for completion by 2020 that will soften the edges of the Metro campus, plus add greenery and social and outdoor recreational space. MORE: http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2016/09/new_tri-c_metro_projects_aim_a.html#incart_river_home "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 12, 20168 yr I'm sure it will be nicer but this seems like a waste. Just make sure future buildings follow better design rules. These buildings are already what they are and where they are. The overall structure and layout, both being key aspects of Brutalism, are staying exactly the same. Classic lipstick on a pig situation. $38 million is a large outlay for cosmetics, even in times of surplus. There are so many unmet needs that CCC could be filling. How does this investment help it meet those needs?
September 12, 20168 yr I'd rather they start over with a new campus. Where could they build a new Tri-C Metro campus or add new buildings with the new design concept?? How about here: "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 12, 20168 yr Maybe Tr-C and the Justice Center should exchange campuses... Not totally joking. From looking around on RTA's website, the transit access to Tri-C isn't quite as bad as I had assumed. Buses 11, 14, and 15, all travel the same route (I think) from Public Square, down Prospect, and eventually on to to East 22nd, and then east on Community College Avenue, together offering fairly frequent service. I wonder how widely this is understood by students and workers. It would be swell if Tri-C take this into account in their campus freshening and provide, for example, a clear, way-finded pedestrian route to an enhanced waiting environment. EDITED: The 11 takes a slightly different route from the 14 and 15. Too bad. Seems more useful to group routes to maximize service frequency where they can overlap.
September 15, 20168 yr The final renderings definitely had some issues to me but I have to say the street presence of this is surprisingly impressive... and I am very surprised how large the building is: it is highly visible from even the 30th floor of One Cleveland Center. I'll have to get a picture of that view. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
September 15, 20168 yr In that picture it's at 10 floors, still one more to go! Looking better than I thought it would.
September 15, 20168 yr I love the new Tri-C design. It's keeping with their plans over there to turn that area (with Tri-C, St. Vincent, etc) into a low-budget University Circle, if you will. I think this is the beginning of really good improvements that can enhance that goal
September 15, 20168 yr In that picture it's at 10 floors, still one more to go! Looking better than I thought it would. are you sure? it doesn't look like they're adding any height given the state of completion on the existing outer walls.
September 15, 20168 yr In that picture it's at 10 floors, still one more to go! Looking better than I thought it would. are you sure? it doesn't look like they're adding any height given the state of completion on the existing outer walls. I was thinking the same thing as you, so I checked their webcam. The 11th floor is being added, but away from the Euclid side right now. Check it out: https://app.oxblue.com/open/clayco/edgecsu
September 15, 20168 yr I love the new Tri-C design. It's keeping with their plans over there to turn that area (with Tri-C, St. Vincent, etc) into a low-budget University Circle, if you will. I think this is the beginning of really good improvements that can enhance that goal I agree with this whole heartedly. That area currently is not pleasant.
October 6, 20168 yr Love that first photo! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 6, 20168 yr Really like the way it kind of 'looms' over the street. Very nice. Now we just need something on that PHS parking lot and we're in business.
October 6, 20168 yr ^Whatever goes on that lot, I think it would be a good place for a first level small format Target like those planned at OSU and UC. At that location, you could take advantage of both CSU and downtown residents.
October 19, 20168 yr Cleveland State begins expansion of Washkewicz College of Engineering October 17, 2016 100,000 square feet $60 million expansion starts: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20161017/BLOGS09/161019809/cleveland-state-begins-expansion-of-washkewicz-college-of-engineering
November 15, 20168 yr Has anyone seen or taken pics of Prospect side though? The renderings of the parking deck looked horrible.
November 15, 20168 yr Looks like our Comfort Inn in the Campus/Theater District @ 18th & Euclid is going to get some spiffing up "COMFORT BRAND ANNOUNCES MORE EXTENSIVE HOTEL RENOVATIONS ACROSS U.S." - See more at: http://media.choicehotels.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=217856&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2222092 ROCKVILLE, MD. - Choice Hotels International, Inc. unveiled the new look and feel of a two Comfort brand hotel properties in key destination markets – Kissimmee, Florida and Cleveland, Ohio. These are just the first of a series of upcoming renovations in top markets for the brand... The Comfort Inn Cleveland is located in a prime location in downtown Cleveland's theater district located minutes from the Cleveland Clinic and such top local attractions as the Playhouse Square, the Jack Cleveland Casino, and the Quicken Loans Arena & FirstEnergy Stadium. Additionally, Choice Hotels is taking strategic measures to help hotel developers determine the best places to build new prototype Comfort brand properties...
November 15, 20168 yr Isn't that Swingoes? Why wouldn't they just tap the places history in that case?
November 15, 20168 yr Because : Headquartered in Rockville, MD AKA - "We don't care, we don't have to."
November 29, 20168 yr Global X of 1303 Prospect Ave, a tax packager and strategist, will rehab 6-story 2101 Superior for their new headquarters. It's a much bigger building that their Prospect digs and presently houses Daffy Dan's Tshirts. http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20161129/NEWS/161129827/investment-firm-to-rehab-campus-district-building-for-its Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
November 29, 20168 yr Does anyone have a picture of this building. http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20161129/NEWS/161129827/investment-firm-to-rehab-campus-district-building-for-its
November 29, 20168 yr ^ Google does. Sorry I don't have a place to post it. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
November 29, 20168 yr It's the old Daffy Dan's building. Here's the streetview from google: https://goo.gl/maps/B22UsahUZt72
November 29, 20168 yr It's the old Daffy Dan's building. Here's the streetview from google: https://goo.gl/maps/B22UsahUZt72 It's a good solid building--will be a great rehab!
November 29, 20168 yr The article says Daffy Dans will stay on the ground floor. With a tenant staying in the building I wonder how extensive the rehab will be. Historic renovations are often total gut jobs - new electrical, hvac, elevators, windows, etc.
November 29, 20168 yr The article says Daffy Dans will stay on the ground floor. With a tenant staying in the building I wonder how extensive the rehab will be. Historic renovations are often total gut jobs - new electrical, hvac, elevators, windows, etc. $8 million sounds like a substantial rehab. Probably going to have to work around DD, or have them move into temporary quarters. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 29, 20168 yr Please lord let them include a restaurant on the ground floor. Their "ground floor" is sub-grade, meaning as you enter the building, you take a half flight of stairs down to the Daffy Dan's showroom. I worked at DD's as a graphic artist in the early 80s and my office was at the corner. All you could see of people walking by were their calves and ankles.
November 30, 20168 yr I'm sure it will be nicer but this seems like a waste. Just make sure future buildings follow better design rules. These buildings are already what they are and where they are. The overall structure and layout, both being key aspects of Brutalism, are staying exactly the same. Classic lipstick on a pig situation. $38 million is a large outlay for cosmetics, even in times of surplus. There are so many unmet needs that CCC could be filling. How does this investment help it meet those needs? Yes. Because the building they're re-doing is the literal heart of the college and is meant to facilitate activity and interaction. A more attractive Campus Center with better amenities (starbucks always works, lol) is more inviting and makes students want to stay on campus longer and even, at the school longer. Sorry I'm late to the discussion on this!
November 30, 20168 yr Good architecture is better than bad, no doubt. But whatever our goal, there are more effective ways to spend $38 million on a community college. I would focus investment on functional and educational enhancements, particularly in areas like industrial tech where a CCC degree might be the only one you need. Students pay way too much and adjuncts make way too little. People first. $38 million to tear down walls and replace them with different walls is an awful lot.
November 30, 20168 yr I would actually do a complete rebuild over just removing walls- but this also looks like a rebuild anyway. I work at a large CC system and I have visited systems across the country- particularly the south and the west coast. The schools out there are kicking our behinds in a lot of areas- mainly retention and number of degrees awarded, and one of the big reasons why is investment in facilities. It sounds silly, i know, but students don't want to be in a place that actually looks and feels worse than their high school. The CC's out there tended to invest/update every five to ten years, this part of the country tended not to.
November 30, 20168 yr I would actually do a complete rebuild over just removing walls- but this also looks like a rebuild anyway. I work at a large CC system and I have visited systems across the country- particularly the south and the west coast. The schools out there are kicking our behinds in a lot of areas- mainly retention and number of degrees awarded, and one of the big reasons why is investment in facilities. It sounds silly, i know, but students don't want to be in a place that actually looks and feels worse than their high school. The CC's out there tended to invest/update every five to ten years, this part of the country tended not to. Well, you know where I'd build the new CCC Metro Campus -- over a new station next to the East 9th Extension/Commercial Road reroute. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 2, 20168 yr Idk what it is about Superior ave. but it never truly felt "urban" to me (born in 1992 so it may have had a busy urban vibe before). Idk if the lack of great ground floor retail investment kills the street or what but that and even St. Clair Avenue (from Downtown to about 55th) seem to lack an urban buzz. I think it may also be that the streets are unnecessarily wide for how much traffic goes down that portion. The neglect of effective planning/investment on those two streets make them feel like slight after thoughts especially when compared to the cities "crown jewel" Euclid Avenue.
December 20, 20168 yr Global X gets tax credits for Daffy Dan Building. http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2016/12/four_northeast_ohio_buildings.html
January 8, 20178 yr A summary of recent developments already posted in this thread.... Campus District is getting an at-home feel January 08, 2017 By JAY MILLER It's been a while coming for Karen Perkowski, but it's looking like big things will be happening in the Campus District, the area east of downtown Cleveland. It's gotten to the point where community development planners have set in motion a plan to create a business improvement district to turn an area once home mostly to machine shops, electrical supply firms and the like into a real residential neighborhood. "We're very excited to see the changes," said Perkowski, who with her husband Doug and their firm Tower Press Development, developed the Tower Press building at 1900 Superior Ave. 15 years ago and have added several additional buildings along Superior to their portfolio more recently. MORE: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170108/NEWS/170109862/campus-district-is-getting-an-at-home-feel "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 27, 20178 yr http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/01262017/index.php Landmarks Commission Agenda for January 26, 2017 2. Case 17-007 Stuyvesant Motor Company Building 1937 Prospect Avenue Renovation for Prospect Yard Apartments Ward 3 McCormack Elizabeth Corbin Murphy Chambers Murphy & Burge Perspectus Architecture "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 8, 20178 yr Looks like the Barnes & Noble store at 2020 Euclid will get new life. http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170207/NEWS/170209853/amazon-sets-in-motion-plan-for-downtown-cleveland-store
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