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Cool! Allow me to post the intro text from the RFP........

 

Chester/13 Development

Request for Proposals for

Real Estate Development

Michael McBride, Project Manager

July 14 2014

 

I. Introduction and Background

The City of Cleveland (“City”), though its Director of Community Development

(“Director”), is soliciting proposals from qualified firms interested in purchasing and

redeveloping the property located 1325 Chester Avenue, Cleveland, Ohio, 44114

(“Project Site”) as a mixed-use development. The Project Site, an existing 140-space

street-grade parking lot, is located on PPN 102-22-013 and 102-23-061. The Project Site

is bordered by East 13th Street on the west, Payne Avenue on the north, and Chester

Avenue on the south. The redevelopment plan should integrate multiple property uses,

including retail and/or residential spaces, and provide a minimum of 250 parking

spaces (as a parking structure). The redevelopment can maintain the surface parking lot

as an interim use, but must result in vertical development that is satisfactory to the City.

The Project Site is 1.2210 acres or 53,187 square feet in size. Approximately 290 feet face

Payne Avenue, 195 feet face East 13th Street, and 210 feet face Chester Avenue. The

existing lot is street-accessible at East 13th Street, Chester Avenue, and Payne Avenue.

The current street-grade parking is an asphalt lot with an attendant’s kiosk,

landscaping, lighting, and a border made of posts and links of chain. Currently, the lot

holds approximately 140 vehicles. The City has operated the Project Site parking lot for

more than six years through the Division of Parking Facilities and the Department of

Parks, Recreation & Properties.

 

The Project Site is well positioned at the intersection of several prominent downtown

neighborhoods. The Project Site is just north of the bustling theaters of

PlayhouseSquare, just west of Cleveland State University and the Campus District, and

just east of the blossoming hospitality and dining of the NineTwelve District.

Hofbrauhaus, a new brew pub with 600 indoor seats and 1,000 outdoor bier garden

seats, is expected to open by the end of 2014 across Chester Avenue at 1629 Dodge

Court. The Project Site is directly across the street from the 765 unit Reserve Square

apartment and commercial complex and near other new hotel and residential

developments. The site is one block north of the Euclid Avenue/Healthline RTA

Corridor.

 

A pre-proposal conference will be held at Cleveland City Hall, Department of

Community Development, 601 Lakeside Ave., Room 320, Cleveland, Ohio 44114 on

July 24, 2014 at 3 p.m. At or before the conference, interested parties may submit or

ask questions pertaining to this RFP. Proposers are encouraged to attend the

conference although attendance is not mandatory. Those planning to attend the preproposal

meeting and those wishing to receive notice of supplemental information

posted on Community Development’s web site must register by 5 p.m. on July 21,

2014 by calling (216) 664-2005 or by e-mail to [email protected]. When

registering, it will be necessary to provide the names of all attendees. Please note that a

government-issued photo ID is required to enter Cleveland City Hall. Questions will be

accepted after the conference until close-of-business on August 14, 2014.

Supplemental information will be posted and periodically updated on the Community

Development Department’s web page on the City of Cleveland’s web site.

 

More at the links in the prior post.....

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Excellent - I wonder what this means for the fate of the Greyhound station?

It's about time!!!!

Excellent - I wonder what this means for the fate of the Greyhound station?

 

Nothing, it's not part of the scope.  Could give it a nice new neighbor though.

Excellent - I wonder what this means for the fate of the Greyhound station?

 

Nothing, it's not part of the scope.  Could give it a nice new neighbor though.

 

Indeed, however I remember hearing chatter that the City was trying to negotiate with Greyhound to relocate and use this station as a possible development site.  I don't remember what, if anything, happened of the conversation.

Indeed, however I remember hearing chatter that the City was trying to negotiate with Greyhound to relocate and use this station as a possible development site.  I don't remember what, if anything, happened of the conversation.

 

The rumbling is that CSU would take over the Greyhound station. Got to get Greyhound buses into the Lakefront Multimodal Transportation Center along with Amtrak, Megabus, GCRTA Waterfront Line, certain GCRTA bus/trolley routes, Akron Metro RTA, Laketran, Portage Area RTA, Stark Area RTA, etc etc. Route all of them through the lakefront hub and it would consolidate enough transportation services with boardings equal to that of the Akron-Canton Regional Airport (about 800,000 per year), right downtown and all under one roof for easy connections among buses and trains, with cafes, shops, etc. to serve them 24 hours a day.

 

Let CSU help fund this transportation center in exchange for Greyhound selling their station to CSU for $1. Cost of the transportation center is about $50 million to $70 million. The city, county and state are funding a parking deck and walkway over the tracks totaling about $35 million. That's a good start!

 

More here:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=17673.0

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^KJP- i agree with your assertion and the Lakefron Multmodal...is that just your opinion or is that a realistic possibility.

^KJP- i agree with your assertion and the Lakefron Multmodal...is that just your opinion or is that a realistic possibility.

 

Which part? The only part set in stone is that the city county and state have committed a total of $35 million for the parking deck and walkway over the tracks.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^KJP- i agree with your assertion and the Lakefron Multmodal...is that just your opinion or is that a realistic possibility.

 

Although I dont want it on the Lakefront, as I think there are several places a Multi modal transportation center could go.

 

I've always thought Chester, Payne, Superior and Rockwell (along with Prospect and Carnegie) are ripe for high rise housing. 13 street to 30 street on either of those streets could be great residential opportunities.  This is just the start.  We have very few apartment buildings to convert, new build developments are on the horizon.

The rumbling is that CSU would take over the Greyhound station. . . . .

Let CSU help fund this transportation center in exchange for Greyhound selling their station to CSU for $1. Cost of the transportation center is about $50 million to $70 million.

 

I like that idea.  I expect there are environmental issues with the Greyhound property.  Why would CSU want to take that on?

The rumbling is that CSU would take over the Greyhound station. . . . .

Let CSU help fund this transportation center in exchange for Greyhound selling their station to CSU for $1. Cost of the transportation center is about $50 million to $70 million.

 

I like that idea.  I expect there are environmental issues with the Greyhound property.  Why would CSU want to take that on?

 

There's long been sentiment that the Greyhound attracts an undesirable element in which students felt unsafe. I'm sure that's part of it.

The rumbling is that CSU would take over the Greyhound station. . . . .

Let CSU help fund this transportation center in exchange for Greyhound selling their station to CSU for $1. Cost of the transportation center is about $50 million to $70 million.

 

I like that idea.  I expect there are environmental issues with the Greyhound property.  Why would CSU want to take that on?

They don't have to take it on.  They can get indemnified from Greyhound (or the property owner), or transfer the liabilty to insurance that is paid for through the property owner. 

Greyhound Station would be an ideal location for the long-held UO fantasy of a Comic Book Museum / Hall of Fame

This is where I was when I read news of The Return. We were having lunch al fresco at Playhouse Square in downtown Cleveland. Love the old-school directional "stone" pointing to Elyria, et al.....

 

Ha!  I was there, too!  Were you the guy sitting down that first announced it?

Ha!  I was there, too!  Were you the guy sitting down that first announced it?

 

I was sitting next to him. He's a friend of mine from Youngstown. I told him about the news but he has a bigger mouth, so.... :)

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Cleveland requesting development proposals for city-owned parking lot

 

A potential real estate development site in downtown Cleveland may get some action if the City of Cleveland has its way.

 

The city-owned parking lot at Chester Avenue and East 13th Street near the Greyhound Bus Station is the subject of a request for proposals that the city’s Community Development Department posted on its website Monday, July 14.

 

The city seeks a mixed-use development of the site with retail, residential or office uses and a parking garage that would hike dramatically the number of spaces available, according to the RFP. The current 1.2-acre site has 140 parking slips; the city wants a minimum of 250 spaces on the parcel.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20140717/FREE/140719829/cleveland-requesting-development-proposals-for-city-owned-parking-lot?template=printart

That sounded great until the parking garage came up, the garage HAS to be visually appealing with retail attached to the bottom (unless the building would be built on top of the garage then i would be ok with it). I have yet to see a garage in Cleveland built that was executed and designed as well as 515, to me that would have to be the standard.

 

EDIT: "Although the city said it wants a development to rise vertically on the site, the RFP left the door open for the interim use of the parking lot until the developer is ready for a larger development." UGH NO! Unless the developer has set realistic plans in place for a vertical mixed use building then they are a no go for this land. This city has too many people sitting on prime land in favor of parking.

 

That's an awesome shot!

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I hope they bring those power lines down.

EJK77, welcome aboard! I thought all the powerlines along Euclid were buried?

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

EJK77, welcome aboard! I thought all the powerlines along Euclid were buried?

 

Thanks! 

 

Sorry tried to upload fresh photos of Hofbrauhaus (got an error and thought nothing posted).... was talking about the power lines in front of the building.

Looking nice!

This just looks goofy to me. I wish they had located at FEB or another less dense/newer development area.

Hopefully the 'haus gets enough traffic to stay busy.  This area, after the Warehouse District, is the next area that needs to be developed.  All these parking lots is almost as depressing as the WHD.  I pipe dream is for all those to be housing and retail while converting the Greyhound to a grocery store.  Although I believe there is already one at the Reserve Square.

 

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First thing is to develop the city-owned lot at left, at the corner of East 13th and Chester, which is the subject of an RFP to real estate developers.

 

Also, the rumblings I'm hearing is if the Greyhound station finds a new use soon, it might be something that CSU would undertake.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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From way up here, you might not know that's the world's largest outdoor chandelier. #clevelandgram #thisiscle

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

So how intense is the competition for worlds largest outdoor chandalier?

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Submissions to the RFP for the lot at 13th & Chester are due today.  Here's to hoping we hear soon.

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No qualms w the rename here ("Palace" has not been removed, never will be), but i wouldve likedd to see a new marquee for the theater, like one that lights the front of the State Ohio or Hanna.

You'd think for 9 mil donation from the Connor family, PHS couldve gotten a replacement marque as such. Maybe still to come?

 

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Before we're off to SPARX City Hop (PHS is hub for that tiday)...another PHS update

 

soft opening is Thurs Oct 9

 

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kinda forelorn outside so far, but inside is looking good. hoping they have swiss-german stuff like raclette and fondue for cold weather.

kinda forelorn outside so far, but inside is looking good. hoping they have swiss-german stuff like raclette and fondue for cold weather.

 

Fondue most likely yes.  I'm guessing that the cuisine will be Bavarian.  Here's hoping they don't forget us "northerners"

Thanks for the pics clueless

The menu is hardly 100% authentic German - and has some nods to U.S. tastes - but I'm surprised it's so "German" overall- a lot more than I thought it would be... down to the REALLY German names on many of the dishes... ("Munchner Weisswurste" and so forth - Nice).  No "Berlin-ffalo Wings" or that kind of stuff. Good.

 

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Side point: I know the building attached to the Hofbrauhaus is the Hermit Club but what is the other Tudor style building across the way? (Seen in back of second to the last and last pics)

^I believe it houses an insurance agency.  It has to be at least ten years old.

Kind of cool and amazing how new development is making both ends of Chester resemble a city street instead of the auto sewer it's been for so many decades.  Hopefully that trend continues.

The menu is hardly 100% authentic German - and has some nods to U.S. tastes - but I'm surprised it's so "German" overall- a lot more than I thought it would be... down to the REALLY German names on many of the dishes... ("Munchner Weisswurste" and so forth - Nice).  No "Berlin-ffalo Wings" or that kind of stuff. Good.

 

 

With all of the great food options in Cleveland, including Sokolowski's (not German but similar), this would be far down the list of places I would go for the food. I ate at the one in Vegas and would not go back. It's a destination for the atmosphere.

Hofbrauhaus Cleveland set to open Oct. 9 in Playhouse Square; promises an Oktoberfest year-round

 

By John Petkovic, The Plain Dealer

October 02, 2014 at 7:01 AM, updated October 02, 2014 at 10:34 AM

 

Hofbrauhaus Cleveland will open its doors Thursday. It will be followed by a keg tapping to mark the grand opening on Oct. 22 – complete with servers in dirndl and lederhosen outfits, German bands and party-hearty stein slamming.

 

The 24,000-square-foot, $8.4 million Bavarian-themed entertainment spot was initially scheduled to open in September, but was pushed back due to the enormity of the project.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2014/10/hofbrauhaus_cleveland_set_to_o.html

 

The Hermit Club part of the HH

this should be a lot of fun

 

 

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^wow, Chester ave should never be the same

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