January 18, 200817 yr Developer Bob Stark drops Solon plans One lifestyle center proposal remains Monday, January 14, 2008 Laura Johnston Plain Dealer Reporter Solon- Developer Bob Stark has surrendered. That leaves Peter Rubin, president of the University Heights-based Coral Co., as the only contender to build Northeast Ohio's newest lifestyle center. Last fall, both submitted proposals to create complexes of shops, restaurants, condos, hotels, movie theaters, college classrooms, medical and business offices along SOM Center Road. The City Council was to pick a project Jan. 22, with residents to vote on necessary rezoning in November. But Stark Enterprises pulled out after Gross Builders - which had planned to build about 250 senior housing units as part of Stark's 75-acre, $750 million Garden District development - withdrew from the project and took its 27 acres out of the mix. Stark could no longer deliver the mixed-use development he had proposed. MORE: http://www.cleveland.com "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 18, 200817 yr Here's some renderings for what Coral Co. is proposing.... http://www.thecoralcompany.com/solon.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 18, 200817 yr At first glance that looks like a really good site plan, though the architecture of the buildings looks generic lifestyle center-ish. It should work well along the main streets going by as well.
January 18, 200817 yr "That you want to... explore. search. probe. experience." World class verbiage :-D
January 18, 200817 yr What happened in Warrensville and Randall Park can not happen in Solon Ehhh...never mind. In distance from the city center, or from population density, Solon is not any further out than Parma, if it is to be the next best thing, then it should develop that way. Just to clarify: Solon is roughly the same land area as Parma, yet has roughly 25% of the population. Also, it is about twice as far from downtown. Really, the only purpose this development will serve is to rob businesses from other developments which in turn robbed businesses from others which eventually robbed them from the city of Cleveland itself. It's not progress, it's just another instance of the constant running that exurbanites do. And it'll only stop when (1) gas runs out and we haven't put much thought into an alternative fuel, or (2) the people fleeing Cleveland run into the people fleeing Youngstown/Akron/Pittsburgh/Columbus/Toledo/Detroit. By then, we won't need farms anyways, as we'll all be buying "food pills" from Wal-Mart, the only retail store left in the US. Boy, am I in a pessimistic state tonight...time for bed.
January 18, 200817 yr YUCKY YUCKY YUCKY! I think that as long as we have (ok well hopefully have :wink:) a diverse, NEW retail selection in downtown and adjacent neighborhoods, Westlake, Solon, N. Royalton, etc. can have all of the Gaps and Chico's they want. Who from downtown, OC, Tremont drives to Strongsville to eat at TGI Fridays or Red Lobster? It's the other way around with suburbanites making the trek into the city more often that probably 15 years ago. The food component to the puzzle is filling itself out quite nicely (although some Jamba Juices would be good!) and God-willing once Stark, Wolstein, and friends start bringing in retailers, the only thing we'll need in the burbs in Cabela's! :roll: Ok, yeah I was joking there and really hate Brunswick!
January 18, 200817 yr This is so freaking hilarious... Cosmopolitan. Life. Style. Experience the evolution of Solon. feel. sense. taste. discover. know. Imagine... a preeminent place to walk. dine. shop. live. experience. Imagine... a place so intriguing. beguiling. captivating. enthralling. That you want to... explore. search. probe. experience. Because... around every corner... down every street ... there is something ... new. novel. fresh. original. different. World class... hotels. shops. restaurants. homes. gardens. parks. arts. performances. All this connects to become the gateway to Solon. Experience & imagine Solon like never before
January 18, 200817 yr Over the top, but in all fairness I've seldom seen a developer's website that didn't make me want to laugh or vomit.
January 18, 200817 yr Cosmopolitan. Life. Style. Experience the evolution of Solon. feel. sense. taste. discover. know. Imagine... a preeminent place to walk. dine. shop. live. experience. Imagine... a place so intriguing. beguiling. captivating. enthralling. That you want to... explore. search. probe. experience. Because... around every corner... down every street ... there is something ... new. novel. fresh. original. different. World class... hotels. shops. restaurants. homes. gardens. parks. arts. performances. All this connects to become the gateway to Solon. Experience & imagine Solon like never before This is where my more delicate sensibilities go out the window and perhaps this is a reflection on my working class upbringing but - give me a f#cking break. Actually, I'll take "world class signage" any day over this delusional tripe. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 18, 200817 yr wow, this project had me so intrigued. beguiled. captivated. enthralled. On the other hand... maybe it's just another cheese-fest inside-out mall for the auto-dependent exurban masses (with ugly lipstick).
October 6, 200816 yr http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/10/solon_upscale_shopping_project.html Solon's upscale shopping center plan is dead, developer says Posted by Ellen Jan Kleinerman/Plain Dealer Reporter October 06, 2008 13:29PM Categories: Breaking News, Real Time News SOLON -- The proposed $500 million Central Park upscale retail development is dead, the latest victim of the uncertain economy. Developer Peter Rubin told city officials Friday that his Coral Co. no longer needs a rezoning issue on the Nov. 4 ballot for the project, billed to transform the city's business district into a town center. Parks, restaurants and offices also were part of the proposal. Post edited 9-4-09 to comply with terms of use
October 7, 200816 yr Just saw a short blurb about this on Fox8. Peter Ruben did not look very happy, but he did say there was still a chance to make a scaled down version of the project.
October 7, 200816 yr Just saw a short blurb about this on Fox8. Peter Ruben did not look very happy, but he did say there was still a chance to make a scaled down version of the project. Lord. Why? I'm all for people taking chances but in this economy, with people moving inward, this type of project is ridiculous.
October 7, 200816 yr This type of project is ridiculous regardless of where people are moving. Every community does not need it's own "lifecrappy center". Beachwood Mall and Legacy Village are a whopping 9 miles away. What point of oversaturation don't these people get?
October 7, 200816 yr Lord. Why? I'm all for people taking chances but in this economy, with people moving inward, this type of project is ridiculous. Except that people generally aren't moving inward. Not in the Cleveland area, anyway. ^But yes, you'd think the oversaturation from existing retail centers alone would scare off any new ones. As much new development as there is out there, it's pretty low density and not exactly underserved.
October 7, 200816 yr I have family in Solon and from what I can gauge from most people the zoning issue was going to fail big time any way. I am sure the economy and general retail conditions are issues but I have to think this factored into Ruben's thinking. Now we will have to see if he is going forward with Cedar Center and/or if it will be scaled back.
October 7, 200816 yr The only major group of people who are upset in Solon are the people whose $200K houses were going to be bought for $400K.
October 7, 200816 yr The only major group of people who are upset in Solon are the people whose $200K houses were going to be bought for $400K. That crap is worth 200k?
October 7, 200816 yr The only major group of people who are upset in Solon are the people whose $200K houses were going to be bought for $400K. That crap is worth 200k? Whoa.. don't insult people's houses, that's not right.
October 7, 200816 yr Whoa.. don't insult people's houses, that's not right. Kstay2, sorry, but I'm an old school kind a boy. I can appreciate new build condos, but those house all look the same to me. No offense to anyone, they just have a very cheap look and feel to them. When I drive or walk up Larchmere, Euclid Hts. Blvd., Shaker, S. Park, N. Park, Lee Road, Cedar, Coventry, Fairmount, etc. I feel the grandeur and I can see the pride and craftmanship in each home individually and how each home plays of and relates to the next home. When I go to my cousin's house in Beachwood (or his wife's, who has family in Oakwood & Bedford), I'm nauseated at the site of 70's/80's garish crap. The outer 'burbs seemed to be filled with those mass produced homes in which every other house "looks" identical or very similar and, to me, have no life or character. Off topic, yes and I apologize in advance for taking the conversation there.
October 7, 200816 yr But yes, you'd think the oversaturation from existing retail centers alone would scare off any new ones. The new ones are usually successful, that is until the next new one opens.
October 8, 200816 yr cool. too bad seven hills overwhelmingly voted to rezone some land on rockside for a lifestyle center of their own a while back (with no activity to speak of).
October 8, 200816 yr Whoa.. don't insult people's houses, that's not right. Kstay2, sorry, but I'm an old school kind a boy. I can appreciate new build condos, but those house all look the same to me. No offense to anyone, they just have a very cheap look and feel to them. When I drive or walk up Larchmere, Euclid Hts. Blvd., Shaker, S. Park, N. Park, Lee Road, Cedar, Coventry, Fairmount, etc. I feel the grandeur and I can see the pride and craftmanship in each home individually and how each home plays of and relates to the next home. When I go to my cousin's house in Beachwood (or his wife's, who has family in Oakwood & Bedford), I'm nauseated at the site of 70's/80's garish crap. The outer 'burbs seemed to be filled with those mass produced homes in which every other house "looks" identical or very similar and, to me, have no life or character. Off topic, yes and I apologize in advance for taking the conversation there. Ditto
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