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Not sure about that.  Certainly not at the main entrance, as someone upthread suggested.

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West quad may be a good guess.  The recent article posted on the Clinic thread stated that it would be on main campus but that Cosgrove could not say where due to the fact that negotiations are ongoing with the land owner.  West quad is not too far from main campus.  Does CWRU own the land or some successor entity of Mt. Sinai?

West quad may be a good guess.  The recent article posted on the Clinic thread stated that it would be on main campus but that Cosgrove could not say where due to the fact that negotiations are ongoing with the land owner.  West quad is not too far from main campus.  Does CWRU own the land or some successor entity of Mt. Sinai?

 

I thought UCI & CWRU owned the land?  :?

I would not consider the West Quad to be "main campus".  It is near to the MC, but not part of the MC.

West quad may be a good guess.   The recent article posted on the Clinic thread stated that it would be on main campus but that Cosgrove could not say where due to the fact that negotiations are ongoing with the land owner. West quad is not too far from main campus. Does CWRU own the land or some successor entity of Mt. Sinai?

 

I thought UCI & CWRU owned the land?   :?

 

Case owns it. UCI was never a part of the ownership structure.

West quad may be a good guess.  The recent article posted on the Clinic thread stated that it would be on main campus but that Cosgrove could not say where due to the fact that negotiations are ongoing with the land owner.  West quad is not too far from main campus.  Does CWRU own the land or some successor entity of Mt. Sinai?

 

I thought UCI & CWRU owned the land?  :?

 

Case owns it. UCI was never a part of the ownership structure.

Thanks.  I know they own parcels of land, just wasn't sure which parcels.

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Cleveland Clinic seals deal to buy Cleveland Play House property

by Tony Brown/Plain Dealer Theater Critic Wednesday July 22, 2009, 5:26 PM

 

 

After three months of negotiations, the Cleveland Clinic on Wednesday agreed to buy the 12-acre Cleveland Play House complex next door, opening new chapters in the histories of two of the city's most storied nonprofit institutions.

 

More at: http://www.cleveland.com/onstage/index.ssf/2009/07/cleveland_clinic_seals_deal_to.html

What brilliance will they have in mind for the future of this building? Tear it down? Another parking lot?

I'd also really love to know what's happening with MOCA.

What brilliance will they have in mind for the future of this building? Tear it down? Another parking lot?

 

Well, the clinic really does not have a history of buying buildings on 13 acres and putting enormous surface lots in....so I guess I don't understand your comment.

The press release I got only says "The Museum of Contemporary Art Cleveland ('MOCA') will continue to operate out of The Cleveland Play House complex with plans to move to University Circle."

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anyone know what the Clinic plans to put at this location--or are they going to sit on it till they figure it out? Could it be the new national lab that was announced about a year ago?

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Whatever happened to the Cleveland Clinic's 100,000-square-foot, $25 million reference lab to be built near the main campus next year?

 

The building will now be about 130,000 square feet and is slated for completion at the end of 2011.

 

"The reason there is a slight delay is there is a building there right now," Marchant explained. The EE building employees will need to be relocated before construction can begin.

 

The Clinic's reference lab, which has been around for decades, already does about 12 million tests a year and employs about 850. After the new building is finished, it will employ up to 1,500 and sell testing specialties to institutions nationwide.

 

-- Sarah Jane Tribble

 

 

MORE AT http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/01/post_193.html

Hello Everyone!

 

I'm a huge fan of this forum and have been reading it for years to gather data for my own research but never posted before. I'm looking forward to contributing.

 

Does anyone have an updated version of the master plan for the Clinic's main campus?

 

The last plan I have is from 2008 and I'm wondering what has become of the master plan since. In the image, there are 4 blue models that remain to be built on Chester ave  Any updates as to where the clinic is with this plan?

 

 

 

 

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I see what you mean about the four buildings on Chester - all but the easternmost (on the left) resemble the East 93rd garage with the corner "bumpouts". It would be nice if they could build those a little closer to the street, if they're going to be offices.

Thanks, Cleverland for posting that- I don't think I had ever seen that image before.  I certainly haven't seen any updates.

 

I guess we can mentally add the reference lab to the top left of the picture (based on the article posted above).  I wonder if that was originally going to be one of the blue boxes between Euclid and Chester.  If so, too bad: given its big employee counts, would have been nice to have it closer to Euclid and the HL.

 

One other interesting note- the master plan shows the original Clinic building on Euclid being replaced.

 

 

Welcome Cleverland!  Your handle is... well... very clever!

 

Thanks for posting that.  I had never seen that image before either.

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From crainscleveland.com:

 

Cleveland Clinic plans massive spending campaign in 2010

 

By SHANNON MORTLAND

 

10:48 am, February 25, 2010

 

The Cleveland Clinic will spend $848 million on renovations and construction across the health system this year and is looking for ways to continue to expand its footprint locally, nationally and abroad.

 

Clinic CEO Dr. Delos “Toby” Cosgrove announced those plans during his State of the Clinic address this morning. The new construction projects come on the heels of the $1.2 billion spent in recent years on various building projects, such as the Clinic's $506 million heart hospital, which opened in fall 2008.

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One thing that's a pleasant surprise - "The Clinic has hired London-based architect Norman Foster to plan construction for the main campus."

 

More at http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20100225/FREE/100229886

 

from the article:  "as well as build another parking garage on the Carnegie Avenue site where the podiatry school previously was located, Dr. Cosgrove said."

 

I believe thats the art deco building they tore down last year.  I thought it was only temporarily going to be used for parking? 

^Only temporarily used for surface parking, I guess  :laugh:

 

 

One thing that's a pleasant surprise - "The Clinic has hired London-based architect Norman Foster to plan construction for the main campus."

 

 

Yowza, that's kind of a bombshell, actually.  There's no way Foster's been hired solely for interior renovations in Crile or for a new parking garage...  Exciting stuff.

^That IS big news... they've designed some fantastic projects.  I guess we're in for a treat in regards to the Clinic's main campus- as how the campus has evolved thus far has been without regard to it's setting in a major city, along one of the city's historic thoroughfares in a once vibrant neighborhood.

 

http://www.fosterandpartners.com/Practice/Default.aspx

I believe thats the art deco building they tore down last year. I thought it was only temporarily going to be used for parking?

 

I had heard that site would only be used temporarily for a surface lot, which I suppose left the door open for them to decide on a parking garage.  Boo.

At one point the Clinic had planned to building a parking garage on the West side of E105th between Carnegie and Euclid to frame a new courtyard area (east of Crile, south of Cole); I wonder if this has been rethought now.  Would be awesome if the Clinic released a new main campus master plan developed with Foster.

The Plain Dealer's version:

 

Cleveland Clinic braced for recession's impact, still plans record expansion

By Sarah Jane Tribble, The Plain Dealer

February 25, 2010, 12:45PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Even as the Cleveland Clinic's Dr. Toby Cosgrove talked today about the health system's expansive growth, strong financial status and improved quality outcomes, he warned employees that "the storm has not passed."

 

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While the Clinic spent $300 million in capital investments in 2009, it plans to spend an all-time high of $840 million in 2010, Cosgrove said, adding that the system is "moving as fast as fiscally responsible."

 

http://www.cleveland.com/medical/index.ssf/2010/02/cleveland_clinic_braced_for_re.html

 

That is just a mind boggling number- I wonder how much will be at the main campus.

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but they are probably budgeting a decent chunk of that investment for the downtown Vegas site, no?

 

With regard to the parking garage, I never complain when the Clinic wants to build a garage. 

I believe the Las Vegas project is nearly completed and was funded mainly by a philanthropist there.  The Clinic is basically running it. 

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Congregational church at 96th and euclid looks like a total loss from fire overnight.

wow, how did i miss this? norman foster is a HUGE name in architecture, and produces very beautiful and functional space. I think that we will see something very special from him representing our city.

Norman Foster is a pimp, his Hearst tower is amazing not to mention the new tower in Calgary U/C... but he is being hired for "construction planning" which translates to "master plan" to me.  Libeskind was hired for master planning the WTC and he sure as hell does not have anything on that site with his fingerprints on it.  That being said these are different animals and what with the church "convienently" burning down they will have some more room to plan for.

Hiring any form of credible masterplanner is a step in the right direction for me.  Even if he doesn't have his "finger prints" on any single structure that will be built, finding a way to better integrate the campus with the community would be a miracle.

And for god's sake, I hope there is a competent landscape architect or urban designer on the team too.  The Clinic really has no idea what they're doing.

we can dream can't we :)

That IS really exciting! Dude had his hands on a TON of architectural projects that I was fascinated by in Germany ... the library building at Freie Universitaet Berlin, awesome residential in Duisburg's Innenhafen, conversion of a smelting plant outbuilding into the Red Dot Design Museum in Essen and the FREAKING REICHSTAG renovation!!

 

As for master planning, he was also the man behind the concept planning around Duisburg's Innenhafen, which has transformed an inland shipping harbor into a really interested mixed use corridor ... I mean, REALLY interesting. If that's any indication of what he could do for the Clinic, then I'm speechless :O

Agree, I mean he is a Pritzker Prize winner if I am not mistaken.  I just wish he (and he still may) would get an actual commission for a building... even if its not huge.  (london city hall-ish?)

I think Steve Litt should dig to get some more details about Foster's involvement so we can get some sense what to expect.  This could be Cosgrove's interest in design finally making its way to the main campus in a real way, or it could be something far less exciting.  I wanna know!

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I noticed driving down downtown today that it appears the Clinic is beginning the demolition of the EE Building.  Previous discussion indicated that some sort of lab is to go here.  Since demo is starting does anybody know if a rendering is floating out there?  This could be a key intersection on the campus someday since three out of four corners is now surface parking.  This could and should be the beginning of the Clinic inplementing a plan with some better architecture as promised by Cosgrove.

London architect to design 20-year Cleveland Clinic growth plan

 

By Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer

May 04, 2010, 9:05AM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Cleveland Clinic has reached around the globe to London, England, for a team of architects to help it chart the next 20 years of growth at its campus in the city.

 

Dr. Toby Cosgrove, the clinic's chief executive officer, said that the clinic has hired Foster + Partners, headed by Lord Norman Foster, one of the world's leading architects, to spearhead a four-month planning process. Cosgrove said the results would be made public in late summer.

 

The goal is to find locations for hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of new construction, gradually expanding the clinic to the edges of its 168-acre campus, where 25,000 of its 40,000 regional employees work.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2010/05/london_architect_to_design_20-.html

 

 

They're looking for space to build?  Isn't there some open space around the 9600 block of Euclid Ave.?!

Anyone know about this guy?  Any success with adaptive reuse?

Anyone know about this guy?  Any success with adaptive reuse?

 

Foster + Partners?  They have done pretty much anything you can think of as far as building typology and condition.

 

 

^Wow, thanks!

 

I was just hoping to spare the wrecking ball for the playhouse and Podiatry building if possible.

(I am not sure, did the podiatry building already get leveled?)

^Yes it did...it is now a "pretty" surface parking lot (you should how hard the contractor is working trying to gussy it up)  Maybe you were thinking of the building across the street where Seglin's is, and Potter and Mellon was, located.

^Wow, thanks!

 

I was just hoping to spare the wrecking ball for the playhouse and Podiatry building if possible.

(I am not sure, did the podiatry building already get leveled?)

 

Yes, a few months back.  It's a beautiful parking lot now!

Thanks, I think I just chose not to believe it.

 

Well, maybe that was the last page of a bad chapter, and a glorious new one has started.

Wow, that is a really encouraging article by Litt; great confidence-inspiring quotes by everyone.  Can't wait to see the plans.

Anyone know about this guy?  Any success with adaptive reuse?

 

I got to see an incredible amount of work he has done in Germany, including a large amount of adaptive reuse. He's well-known for the Reichstag, but I would also look to examples in industrial cities like Duisburg (where he has played a pivotal role in master planning of the city as a whole and of its inner harbor more specifically) and Essen (where he helped convert a shuttered smelting plant building into an industrial design museum). In all these cases, attention was placed on converting largely industrial and car-oriented environments into pedestrian-oriented areas that incorporate a lot of public space and create density by rehabbing vacant buildings and constructing new to create density of activity:

 

- http://www.fosterandpartners.com/Projects/1443/Default.aspx

- http://www.fosterandpartners.com/Projects/0956/Default.aspx

- http://www.fosterandpartners.com/Projects/0576/Default.aspx

- http://www.fosterandpartners.com/Projects/0495/Default.aspx

That being said, in reviewing their portfolio more fully, it appears that some of their work is more about stand-alone pieces of starchitecture than about urban continuity (particularly when it comes to eds & meds). Hopefully, given their previous successes with master planning and given the apparent attention of the Clinic to neighborhood connectivity, this will result in a more welcoming and pedestrian-oriented campus ... but I don't know that it's necessarily a given.

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