Interesting. Looks like this thing won't have a basement.

^No, and I thought it would tie into the Clinic's established underground automated delivery system.  BUT, I don't see any evidence of another skywalk hamster tube going in at this point.

^No, and I thought it would tie into the Clinic's established underground automated delivery system. BUT, I don't see any evidence of another skywalk hamster tube going in at this point.

It will tie into the system. I have firsthand knowledge. Additionally, there will be an all glass, enclosed ground level walkway that connects through the first floor of the parking garage next to it.

As mentioned above no basement.  I pass by almost every day and was surprised I never saw excavation for a basement.  For some strange reason I thought a lab should have a basement...you know..."Hey Frank, go down into the basement and grab some more of that highly radioactive globby stuff".

 

^^^^What "grocery store"?

^I think I know what you are referring to.  That white blot on the landscape disfiguring an already disfigured street (which is apparently being built by two guys with a shovel and hammer since it has taken so long to complete such a simple (simply ugly) building).

You beat me, my search skills on this site are relatively slow.

Here's something from 2007...

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/crr06-18-07.htm

 

 

9:30    Ward 6

Calendar No. 07-78:  2040 East 83rd Street Patricia Britt 

     

East 83rd and Carnegie LLC, owner and Ali Lofti Fard, appeal to construct a one-story grocery store and restaurant, proposed to be situated on consolidated parcels located in split zoning between General Retail Business and Multi-Family Districts on the west side of East 83rd Street at 2040 East 83rd Street; subject to the limitations of Section 337.08, a grocery store is not permitted in a Multi-Family District; and contrary to Sections 352.10 and 352.11, a 4’ wide frontage landscape strip is proposed where a 6’ width is required along the parking lot on East 83rd Street and Section 325.03 stipulates that parking spaces shall be at least 180 square feet and accessory uses shall be no less than 10’ from the side street line according to Section 357.05 of the Codified Ordinances. (Filed 5-15-07)

 

Obviously outdated...but the names might help.

 

And I could have built the thing faster on my own with a hammer and hand saw.

 

<on topic> The clinic continues to resurface parking lots around the new lab building as well.  The new grassy open area on 89th behind the Taussig Cancer Center is pretty much done and most of the chain link fences have come down. </on topic>

Someone above mentioned the "grocery store" by the Playhouse. What are the plans for that building? It's the one between the mammoth 5000 car garage and the Playhouse, on Euclid.

^The reference was not to that former grocery store which has been abandon for years but to a new one on Carnegie which is taking for ever to build.

 

No plans for that vacant building as far as I am aware.  If I recall years ago the Playhouse wanted to buy it but the owner wanted an unrealistic price.

What a shame, that's such a prime piece of property sitting there like wasteland. The Rally's that shutdown is also prime. I hope that some intelligent planner scoops up both properties. Although, a Cleveland Clinic surface lot or a poorly designed national retailer (e.g. Aldi's, CVS, etc.) would probably suit the site best, as always is the case in that section of Euclid. While they're at it, they should tear down St. Agnes' remains, because that doesn't fit in with the dystopian taste either.

Your semi-regular Cleveland Clinic Reference Lab update! (Taken Saturday)

 

Looks like they are waiting on a bit more of the structural steel before they finish framing the east end of the building.

You mean the Cleveland Clinic is actually building something?!?!  :-o :-P

Anyone know the status of Foster + Partner's updated master plan for the Clinic's main campus?  The PD's announcement back in May quoted Cosgrove as saying the results of Foster's work would be released in late summer [2010].

I was actually wondering the same thing as I drove by recently.  Anybody?

I haven't heard anything recently.  Cosgrove usually updates employees on stuff like that at his quarterly meetings, but I've skipped the last couple.  I'll ask around and see what I can find.  If there's anything worth passing on I'll be sure to post it here.

please do! I have been wondering the same myself.

A few pics from my walk yesterday (before the snow).  We can see some facade going up.

 

Cleveland Clinic Reference Lab:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please note the Tudor Arms in the background:

 

Awesomeness. Sorry to hear that there isn't anything happening in Cleveland...

Are you kidding me?  The Clinic doesn't have enough vacant lots already?  Let's hope this travesty can be averted.  :whip:

 

Cleveland Area History reports that the congregation of the Euclid Avenue Church of God in Cleveland "has been offered an unspecified sum by the Cleveland Clinic in return for demolishing the structure, a Cleveland Landmark, and providing the Clinic with a vacant lot."

 

http://www.clevelandareahistory.com/2011/02/threatened-euclid-avenue-church-of-god.html

^Incredible,  but I guess we shouldn't be surprised (especially after this was flagged earlier).  I can't wait to see this Foster master plan to see how they plan on using the gobs of land they already control.

 

One thing that increasingly annoys me about the Clinic is how much on-street parking they could have built into their roadway system for relatively little cost.  They could literally have added dozens, even hundreds of convenient spaces along their grand allee between Chester and Euclid and along Euclid itself when it was built.  They already provide parking along the esplanade in front of Crile, so it's not unprecedented.  It might even have improved the pedestrian environment a bit.  In retrospect, I wish RTA/City hall hadn't ceded so much design leeway to the Clinic for it's stretch of the Euclid- I think they did kind of a lousy job.

Agreed.  For all of Toby Cosgrove's talk about urban planning and design, the application has been altogether absent. 

So only the church would go? That doesn't seem to make sense unless they plan on acquiring the building next door as well, but still.

 

Im surprised they aren't going after the East Mt. Zion Baptist church. That would give them a huge chunk of land in the middle of their campus with Euclid Avenue Frontage

This is more unacceptable behavior on part of the Clinic. 

 

Who can we contact?

So only the church would go? That doesn't seem to make sense unless they plan on acquiring the building next door as well, but still.

 

FYI, they already own the building next door, to the east.

^Thanks

UPDATE on the Cleveland Clinic Innovation Laboratory:

 

 

In relation to Maron's Doubletree Hotel:

 

You were quite the busy man today!  Thanks for the pics.

You were quite the busy man today!  Thanks for the pics.

 

Yes, he is busy! I wondered why all these east-side threads all had new postings in the last couple of days! :)

I used to work at Cleveland Clinic Innovations in the old, tiny building. This place looks like it's 5 times the size.

Minor point, but this building is the Reference Laboratory, not Innovations (which is a business incubator, I believe).

What's the deal with the old supermarket, I believe it was a Rini-Rego or Giant Eagle that got torn down. It was adjacent to the Cleveland Clinic and Playhouse/MOCA. Who owns this land? What's the future slated for?

The hotel thread is locked, so here ya go...

 

Cleveland Clinic hotel on main campus undergoes ‘wellness’ renovation

By Yahoo! Local | Local Cleveland – Tue, Jul 12, 2011

Brandon Glenn, MedCity News

 

Banking on a continuation of the medical tourism trend, a hotel on Cleveland Clinic's main campus is undergoing a multimillion-dollar renovation that'll transform it into a "wellness hotel." The InterContinental Suites Hotel's nine-month-long renovation project is scheduled to wrap up this week and will create what appears to be Ohio's only wellness hotel associated with a hospital. The new buildout involves several typical aspects of a hotel renovation: improvements to the lobby, public spaces, guest rooms and fitness center, the addition of soft lighting, soothing music and a muted color palette. The difference is that nearly all the 162-room InterContinental's changes are done with the intention of helping guests enhance health and wellness.

 

>>>>  http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cleveland/cleveland-clinic-hotel-main-campus-undergoes-wellness-renovation-131728412.html

 

 

 

^Interesting, thanks.  IMHO, that hotel needs a lot of help to be at all appealing.

^Are you sure you are thinking of the Suites hotel and not the Guesthouse?

 

The Suites Hotel before looked somewhat like the Conference Center on Carnegie. The Suites Hotel was built to accommodate guests while the Omni Hotel was being rebuilt as the Intercontinental a decade ago. The Suites Hotel had the dark wood  /oak room style of decor before, and now it has more of that Bill Blunden sterile style typical of any newer construction at the Clinic.  It's down Euclid at 89th, and in the picture below it's the little "L" shaped building underneath the giant brown parking garage.

 

The Guesthouse is that brick building with the scrubs store and the Cedarland Deli on the ground floor. They aren't going to do much with that building because it's supposed to be demolished and rebuilt like the parking garage/offices across the main drive. It's directly across Euclid from the Miller Pavilion. In the picture it's not there, it would be where one of the double long rectangles are.

 

^Yeah, I had the right place in mind.  I stayed at the IC Suites Hotel once maybe four years ago when the losers at Glidden house informed me that they didn't guarantee reservations for non-smoking room.  I guess I shouldn't complain too much because the IC people upgraded me to a gigantic multi bedroom suite for no extra charge, but the interior of the room was nursing home meets 1950s country club.  Couple that with November Cleveland dreariness and the lifelessness of that stretch of Euclid...  Happy to hear they've updated the room interiors a bit though, and hope this new round of changes increases the appeal too.

 

 

EDIT: That old master plan graphic just reminded me though... anyone heard anything new about the Norman Foster master plan the Clinic got underway a couple years ago?

 

EDIT2: I guess someone else was curious too:

 

Development plan for Cleveland Clinic: Whatever happened to ...?

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/05/development_plan_for_cleveland.html

 

The clinic has completed its master plan for Foster + Partners, providing a road map for potential developments on the clinic's main campus near downtown Cleveland, said Heather Phillips, director of corporate communications.

 

Oooo I'd love to see a copy of that thing.

Nothing on their website.  I wonder why they're treating it like it's so secret.

The Reference Lab building on Carnegie/105th is getting pretty close to done. This week they started reinstalling the sidewalks and tree planters. The inside looks like it still has a ways to go, maybe they will be moving in my New Year.

Cleveland Clinics new Master Plan has been released...and TONS of new construction is in the pipeline.

 

*MAJOR ALARM BELLS ALERT* The plan shows that the Clinic has no regard for its own heritage and calls for the demolition of the original Cleveland Clinic 1921 building, and also the surrounding historic churches. (I'm sure the landmarks commission will know how to vote since they like new construction  :roll:)

 

Cleveland Clinic's new master plan envisions bigger, greener campus with ample room to grow for decades

Published: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 9:05 PM   

Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Cleveland Clinic is bullish on its hometown.

 

A new master plan completed by Ohio’s third-biggest employer envisions a big, green future for the institution’s 160-acre main campus west of University Circle.

 

The plan, released to The Plain Dealer last month after several requests, shows that the Clinic has room for dramatic growth over the next 30 to 50 years — a prospect that could mean more jobs and economic activity for decades to come.

 

But while the plan offers a stirring glimpse of the Clinic’s future, it does not address how it could also reshape its outer edges, often dominated by surface parking lots, or help spur revitalization around it. The message is that now is not the time for the Clinic to reach out in a more substantial way.

 

Led by Foster + Partners of London, one of the world’s leading architecture firms, the plan proposes organizing the campus around an internal “Green Spine,” a nearly continuous corridor of leafy outdoor plazas modeled loosely on Cleveland’s downtown Mall and on the National Mall in Washington, D.C.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2012/01/cleveland_clinics_new_master_p.html

What's the great loss if the original building is demolished? What makes it outstanding or notable? And why, if the Clinic wants to get rid of it, shouldn't Cleveland let them? The Clinic is a forward-looking institution, and there's certainly little if any neighborhood to be disrupted when the building is already surrounded and dominated by a campus with a very different vision.

What's the great loss if the original building is demolished?

 

What's the great loss if it is refurbished? Part of being human is having a sense of one's self and a soul. And you only get that through experience and by appreciation of where you've been and what you've done. If you eliminate what has defined you, be it as a person or as a city, then you lose your soul. And if you or your city lacks a soul, then I have every reason to fear what you will do next and will I want stay as far away from you as possible.

 

During one of my visits to Europe, a man said to me that "Americans are rich in the wallet but poor in the heart."

^ Thanks KJP

 

For all those interested, here is a great video on the history of the Cleveland Clinic:

 

- About 1:25 is when the Clinic is built

- Starting 8:08 very ironic and interesting comments by Dr. Toby Cosgrove

 

 

I do not have a strong feeling either way on the churches, but it would be a shame if the historic anchor of the clinic was destroyed.

Great to see the Clinic continue to grow, but I don't see anything development-wise to get excited about in this plan.

Hey, they could have put all the green space next to the road instead of between the buildings.  That's pretty damn exciting *cue lowered expectations MADTV skit intro*.  Seriously, we could have ended up with another pool of evenly spaced rocks fronting Euclid.

Apparently they feel that buildings close to the street on Carnegie create a "forbidding" canyon, so they want everything to have a bigger setback.

What's good for the clinic is good for Cleveland.

It certainly is a stark contrast to the endless, toothless lakefront and public square plans. When the Clinic says they're going to build, they're going to build.

It's not a total surprise, but I'm pleased that the plan is more disciplined with open space.  There's much more building density around vigorously defined spaces rather than the utterly wasteful and aimless use of land that Cole exemplified. 

 

I'm totally OK with future buildings long Carnegie having a modest landscaped setback.  That stretch really is pretty bleak in in its current form, and given the lack of transit and parking lanes and the high volume of traffic, nothing else is likely to improve it.  But for Euclid, it really would be swell if the Clinic did just a few modest things to add some activity to the public ROW.  On the bright side, nothing in this plan really prevents that from happening some day.

A lot to digest...one thing I am happy to see it that the plan is to deal with that parking lot between Crile and E 105 sooner (some time in the next two years) rather than later.  I hope the greening of this space includes (obviously it will) removal of all that hideous chain link fencing.  This lot is a real embarrassment given it's prominent location.

 

I like the idea of a "mall" in this area and always thought it would be nice to frame such a space with a building on E. 105 in line with Crile, with a huge (3-4 stories) archway as a entrance to the mall.

On the one hand, I really appreciate how the Clinic  tries to factor in inspiration and patients' emotional needs into their architecture.

 

On the other hand, to me it's obvious that those churches can be used in a creative way to further those same goals. They offer a beauty and serenity that just cannot be duplicated.

 

When they are lost, they are lost forever.

Hi all. I hope it's not poor form to post a link to one of my own stories here, but it seems pertinent to this discussion to mention that the PD ran a separate article about the Euclid Avenue Church of God and the Church of the Transfiguration today: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/01/historic_churches_near_clevela.html