Revised Clinic-CWRU plans win OK from review panel

http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2015/07/revised_plans_for_clinic-cwru.html#incart_river

Yeesh. Even by Cleveland Clinic standards, this is awful.

 

There really ought to be a mock annual award ceremony, like an architectural version of the Razzys. Maybe public shaming will have an effect on Cleveland Clinic and CSU and the other habitual offenders.

 

I would be interested as to what you consider the worst recent Clinic Buildings. Heart Center? Hillcrest Renovation? Lab building? Glickman Tower? 89th Street Garage?

^I think Cole Eye Institute wins it for me.

^ yep, Cole Eye Institute wins for me too. Especially considering what used to be there. It's amazing how actively the Cleveland Clinic sought to completely destroy the urban fabric of its surrounding neighborhood.

x2. Cole Eye Institute makes me want to go blind.

x2. Cole Eye Institute makes me want to go blind.

 

What makes it even worse is looking at what used to sit on that land...

 

 

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/euclid-ave-at-e-105th-st-university-circle-cleveland-historic-vantage.jpg

x2. Cole Eye Institute makes me want to go blind.

 

What makes it even worse is looking at what used to sit on that land...

 

 

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/euclid-ave-at-e-105th-st-university-circle-cleveland-historic-vantage.jpg

That just made me completely sad.....did that get wiped out in the era where Cleveland thought it was a good idea to fix the growing amount of abandoned buildings by tearing them down, aka the 60s and 70s?

That just made me completely sad.....did that get wiped out in the era where Cleveland thought it was a good idea to fix the growing amount of abandoned buildings by tearing them down, aka the 60s and 70s?

 

Yes, in that era. But many of the residents in the neighborhood, including Councilwoman Fannie Lewis, wanted the buildings kept and restored because they needed housing. The Clinic was more interested in clear-cutting the neighborhood.

 

We probably need a separate thread just on the built environment that was lost to the Cleveland Clinic. Many of the pictures I've posted on this forum in its earliest years are gone because I no longer have those old pictures hosted.

[NEWS] Final beam was placed on our cancer building, set to open 2017. More on the project http://cle.clinic/1EKpCFY

 

https://twitter.com/ClevelandClinic/status/631095270583894016

 

 

 

holiday inn....

 

 

At least the Holiday Inn adds some height along Euclid Avenue.

 

CCF Holiday inn

 

 

 

 

 

 

^ That exterior sure went up quickly

 

Pushing 6 yrs ago now after the 123 yr-old euclid ave Congregational Church burned down, the CCF gets its latest surface lot paved on those ground (in the last week or two) - and maybe a glass box to come in the future  :roll: :roll:

 

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Mandel Foundation donates $8 million for Clinic-Case medical education campus

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September 29, 2015 UPDATED 3 HOURS AGO

 

By TIMOTHY MAGAW 

The burgeoning effort by Case Western Reserve University and the Cleveland Clinic to build a health education campus got an $8 million lift from the Jack, Joseph and Morton Mandel Foundation and the Mandel Supporting Foundations.

 

The award will support the construction of an almost 12,000-square-foot conference center within the 485,000-square-foot medical education complex that will be built near the Clinic’s main campus, as well as boost academic efforts of medical students who want to focus on wellness and preventive care education.

 

“This partnership between Case Western Reserve and the Cleveland Clinic appears to me to hold great potential to positively impact health education,” said Morton Mandel, chairman and CEO of the Mandel Foundation, in a statement.

 

MORE:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20150929/NEWS/150929801/mandel-foundation-donates-8-million-for-clinic-case-medical

Since last week, half of the foundation is already dug out for the Med School.  They have a big tent set up on the Euclid end of the site for the ceremony. 

it'll be interesting to see if the "joint" administration survives.

 

Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland Clinic break ground on $515M health education campus

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20151001/NEWS/151009970/case-western-reserve-university-cleveland-clinic-break-ground-on

Accompanying video from Litt's piece. I think it is a beautiful building.

 

Also interesting that the Dental School will be in a new structure just north of the Medical campus on Chester. Described as a 2-3 story building about 80,000 sq ft to be designed by WRL. Looking forward to seeing that.

 

[edit- nevermind, this article explains my confusion, the Dental School is being moved out of the main Medical School building into it's own building across the street]

 

http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2015/10/cleveland_clinic_cwru_break_gr.html#incart_m-rpt-

 

Cleveland Clinic, CWRU break ground on $515M Health Education Campus including dental clinic in Hough

 

By Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer

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on October 01, 2015 at 5:30 PM, updated October 01, 2015 at 9:30 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – The Cleveland Clinic and Case Western Reserve University formally broke ground Thursday on their joint $515 million Health Education Campus, designed by world-famous architect Lord Norman Foster of England.

 

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Dental clinic in Hough

 

The partners also announced that the project has expanded to include a free-standing dental clinic to be built in the Hough neighborhood along Chester Avenue just north of the health education facility, to be designed by the Cleveland architecture firm of Westlake Reed Leskosky.

 

The Clinic and CWRU originally planned to include the dental clinic in the 485,000-square-foot main building, that will rise on the block bounded by Chester and Euclid avenues, and East 93rd and East 100th streets. But they decided to separate the dental clinic -- which will train students by having them provide treatment for low-income city residents -- to provide easier access for patients.

 

The dental clinic will be two to three stories high, and incorporate 80,000 to 90,000 square feet of space, said William Peacock, the Clinic's chief of operations.

^^I like this building quite a bit as well. For some reason, I don't mind a bit that this particular building is set back from the street. If it's landscaped with trees the way the renderings and video show, I think it will be a very welcoming front entrance.

Looks like some third world capital building, but whatever, it's fine for what it is. Surprised his lordship NF went with such an exceptionally dull landscaping scheme on that huge open space on the eastern side of the site. Just big empty lawn? Maybe they're meant to provide rec space for students?

Tactically speaking, that lawn will allow each nursing student to fire 3 additional arrows at anyone who dares to invade.

Weird that they write about the dental clinic as if it doesn't already exist treating low income and miserly jerk patients like myself. Will be a downgrade of location, but ohh well.

Work well underway at the Case-Clinic med school....

 

^Cool- I love construction progress updates!  And whoa, that is one gigantic pile of dirt back there from the excavation.

Work well underway at the Case-Clinic med school....

 

 

 

Objects in mirror are closer than they appear...

Looks like some third world capital building,

 

Thought that was Severance Hall.    :-)

My wife and I went to Cleveland last weekend to see the Monet exhibit and stayed at the Tudor Arms Doubletree.  From our 11th story room we had a good view of three different construction projects at the clinic: a massive parking garage, the new cancer center, and (off in the distance on the right) the medical school building:

 

Great picture, thanks for sharing. But looking at that parking garage makes me sick

Just about zero cars on Carnegie in that photo..... As Euclid has been taken over by bus lanes, traffic should be here, but its not...even if it is a weekend.

Just about zero cars on Carnegie in that photo..... As Euclid has been taken over by bus lanes, traffic should be here, but its not...even if it is a weekend.

 

Good thing we're building another $300+ million road then...oh, wait

Carnegie was closed around the construction from Thursday through Saturday.

Great picture, thanks for sharing. But looking at that parking garage makes me sick

 

What sickens you about the parking garage?

Great picture, thanks for sharing. But looking at that parking garage makes me sick

 

What sickens you about the parking garage?

 

Mainly the fact that the Clinic sits in one of the most transit rich areas of Cleveland and yet spends millions of dollars to build huge parking facilities, thus encouraging their employees to drive to campus, thus creating lots of congestion in University Circle. This is also the first major development to take place along the new "Opportunity Corridor," which basically shows that the main purpose for the road is to just funnel cars from the west side into the Clinic's parking garages.

^So its the Clinic's fault the greater Cleveland area hasn't developed a robust enough mass transit system (I.e. commuter trains), that could quickly funnel employees and patients alike into their main campus??

 

The Clinic could probably also have leveled all those houses and trees to the south of their campus and built one surface lot for every level of structured parking they own.

 

IMO in urban areas, parking garages aren't bad, but necessary. Especially parking garages in the second or third largest employment area in the region.

^So its the Clinic's fault the greater Cleveland area hasn't developed a robust enough mass transit system (I.e. commuter trains), that could quickly funnel employees and patients alike into their main campus??

 

The Clinic could probably also have leveled all those houses and trees to the south of their campus and built one surface lot for every level of structured parking they own.

 

IMO in urban areas, parking garages aren't bad, but necessary. Especially parking garages in the second or third largest employment area in the region.

 

Do we even want to get into a conversation about the amount of things the Clinic has demolished in the neighborhood?

Rant on: I don't want to belabor this because we're getting into a different (albeit related) topic, but for the price of all the parking garages they've built, they could have contributed the nonfederal funding share of extending the Red Line to Euclid and/or rerouting the Blue Line to University Circle. The Clinic invested heavily in a mode of transportation (including a system of parking lot shuttles) that produces harmful emissions and the overdependence on cars causes obesity, diabetes, heart disease and other ailments. If the Clinic wasn't so aggressive in discouraging smoking by its employees, it wouldn't seem so hypocritical to subsidize auto dependency by 10s of millions of dollars fostering unhealthy activities not only for its employees and visitors but for the city as a whole.

 

...Rant off.

^So its the Clinic's fault the greater Cleveland area hasn't developed a robust enough mass transit system (I.e. commuter trains), that could quickly funnel employees and patients alike into their main campus??

 

The Clinic could probably also have leveled all those houses and trees to the south of their campus and built one surface lot for every level of structured parking they own.

 

IMO in urban areas, parking garages aren't bad, but necessary. Especially parking garages in the second or third largest employment area in the region.

 

Do we even want to get into a conversation about the amount of things the Clinic has demolished in the neighborhood?

 

Would you prefer they had gone the Ahuja route, building in a suburban spot with room to grow, and taken it from there?

 

This is where hard core urbanists get off track, sometimes they pile on those who share their agenda partially for not sharing it fully and enthusiastically.    On a way more sophisticated level, this is a lot like the guy who showed up here all irate because the Horseshoe was going to help its patrons bypass the public sidewalks. 

 

Unless and until the very character and perception of GCRTA changes, transit isn't going to be a popular option with the bulk of CCF's work force.  Perhaps having a train stop on the Campus would make a difference, when it's all said and done BRT is still a bus.

It's OK to demand more/better from your region's assets. If you want to be a big city that ranks highly as a destination for people to live and work, demand more/better. Demonstrate confidence in our city by demanding it.

OK, guys.  This dead horse is well and thoroughly beaten.

Rant on: I don't want to belabor this because we're getting into a different (albeit related) topic, but for the price of all the parking garages they've built, they could have contributed the nonfederal funding share of extending the Red Line to Euclid and/or rerouting the Blue Line to University Circle. The Clinic invested heavily in a mode of transportation (including a system of parking lot shuttles) that produces harmful emissions and the overdependence on cars causes obesity, diabetes, heart disease and other ailments. If the Clinic wasn't so aggressive in discouraging smoking by its employees, it wouldn't seem so hypocritical to subsidize auto dependency by 10s of millions of dollars fostering unhealthy activities not only for its employees and visitors but for the city as a whole.

 

...Rant off.

 

KJP, I get it, but the Clinic is in the business of providing World class healthcare, not World class public transportation. Sure they could    have funded the items you mention, but that's not their business model.

 

I'm just glad they and the other institutions around UC have been able to continue to grow and contribute to the economy of NEO.

Then they shouldn't be funding any transportation infrastructure and parking shuttles.

 

EDIT: Here's a thread where we can discuss this further....

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,28972.0.html

Took some drive-by pictures on my way home this morning of the various Clinic developments along Euclid.

 

The new cancer center. I would say I'm disappointed in it, but I never had high hopes to begin with. Just another squat, generic glass box. Plus heading east on Carnegie in the morning, it reflects the sun right into your eyes for about a two block stretch. 

 

 

The new med school with Case has started going vertical. A little tough to see with the fences, but those would appear to be elevator shafts going up. Looked to be about two stories so far.

 

 

And the new Holiday Inn on Euclid. Exterior is largely complete. I had low expectations for this one when it was first drawn up, and those expectations have pretty much held true. It doesn't bother me as much as the cancer center does though, and for a generic chain hotel I suppose it's pretty good.

 

^ The Clinic architecture seems to be getting worse and worse with each new building.

 

When I look at both buildings I think "let's knock it over and try this again."

^ Murray Hill, any chance you can remove the pictures from your quote, so we don't have to scroll through them twice?

 

I agree with the sentiment, they both look pretty uninteresting. And more importantly have a mediocre site layout.

The CCF/CASE Health Education webcam is up and running:

https://oxblue.com/open/ccf/cwruhec

 

 

 

 

And speaking of the  Health Education Campus. I was in CCF last week and stumbled upon the model of the building:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gonna be tough in the winter with an open roof. (jk)