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I'm pretty sure both of these buildings are demolished at the corner of Vine and Tower (Clifton/Avondale just south of Richie's)

 

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    Yes, the Brewery District CURC is working with the Port to salvage them. No current plans for reuse as of yet.

  • Go ahead, demolish your history. Who will care when it's gone? /s   It amazes me that the statement "it would be too costly to rehabilitate" is even used here. Then don't buy it. Find somewh

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3441 Vine Street (first house north of the Zoo parking lot, tan/beige building shown here) has been demolished. This property is owned by "PFS Real Estate I LLC". The surrounding properties are all owned by the Zoo, and some of them have been reused in their existing layout to work as functioning zoo buildings (Horticulture and Facilities departments are housed there). 

 

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The zoo plans to widen Vine St. to create a turn lane into the solar panel parking lot.  

43 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

The zoo plans to widen Vine St. to create a turn lane into the solar panel parking lot.  

 

I believe it, but is that conjecture on your part, or actually part of a stated plan?

 

And would that turn lane be for cars travelling north to turn left into the lot, or for cars travelling south to turn right into the lot?

9 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:

 

I believe it, but is that conjecture on your part, or actually part of a stated plan?

 

And would that turn lane be for cars travelling north to turn left into the lot, or for cars travelling south to turn right into the lot?

 

I don't know if @jmecklenborg has more specifics, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Zoo pushes for it. I wish they wouldn't, since making Vine St wider will only speed up cars and make it more dangerous for pedestrians. That being said, I think that stretch of Vine St (continuing all the way to Mitchell) would benefit from a 4-to-3 road diet, with strategically placed turning lanes and curbside parking where possible. Currently, there's a lot of dangerous swerving around parked cars and/or cars waiting to turn left and backing up traffic (like at this entrance to the Zoo parking). 

12 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:

 

I believe it, but is that conjecture on your part, or actually part of a stated plan?

 

And would that turn lane be for cars travelling north to turn left into the lot, or for cars travelling south to turn right into the lot?

 

I was told that by one of the workers in the house-turned-office across the street.  I assume that it would only be for southbound (uphill) direction.  

 

Back in 90s OKI studied light rail on Vine, then east on Erkenbrecker.   At the time there was still a green 1960s office building where the big solar panel lot is now, along with some sort of Catholic office building or home for seminarians down in the creek valley.  It's all completely different in that area now with the valley almost completely filled across to Ruther for the solar pane parking lot.  

 

Prior to that the zoo was planning to build a parking garage where the solar panel lot is now but without filling the creek valley.  The parking garage plan has shifted to the east side of vine between Louis and Erkenbrecker, with a second pedestrian bridge (before the existing bridge, the zoo had a walk-up entrance at the corner of Vine & Erkenbrecker, but with zero dedicated parking in the area.  

 

I think the stage is set for big-time development on the solar panel lot, and that brings back the light rail plan idea.  Extending the streetcar up vine to the zoo, as was the plan for Phase 2, makes a lot more sense now since there might soon be a lot more going on there than just the VA and the Zoo.  

 

 

I would love to see high density, mixed-use development on the "solar panel lot"... but I doubt the Zoo has that kind of creative vision. Would be thrilled to be proven wrong though!

 

 

2 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

before the existing bridge, the zoo had a walk-up entrance at the corner of Vine & Erkenbrecker, but with zero dedicated parking in the area

 

That was the main entrance when streetcars were the primary mode of transportation. 

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Looks like this place in coming down this week, if not today. I believe it was a rail station at some point in the past but was most recently (30 or more years ago) a marble studio. Crazy high ceilings inside and some floors had a roof mounted conveyor beam to transport heavy stone about. Kinda sad to see it go after sticking around so long all by itself.

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Looks like Longworth Hall in the background of the first pic.

 

8 minutes ago, NsideProp said:

Looks like Longworth Hall in the background of the first pic.

 

Yep, sure is.

 

Most of the former US Playing Card factory in Norwood will be coming down soon.

How most is most? 

10 hours ago, taestell said:

Most of the former US Playing Card factory in Norwood will be coming down soon.


I heard rumors about this a few days ago but also read up on a redevelopment project. While the front portion is historic, a lot of it is just barren industrial space with little flair. I wonder if that portion will be removed.

The Powell Valves building is a very nice older industrial building. I hate to lose it but Kao does have Powell surrounded and the project sounds like it should benefit both companies.

I was curious about the building and what parts were built when. It's been kept mostly intact over the years, with modifications (e.g. https://goo.gl/maps/tYRuJtrNei12JaAn9) and some additions. It appears that a rear building may be abandoned and that the front-facing building is underutilized as the upper floors look disused. I think most of the heavy manufacturing occurs in the newer buildings in the rear.

 

At one point, there was a second plant elsewhere in the neighborhood (https://goo.gl/maps/Ni7p99MT7owjsgqbA). The building was partly repainted with red accents in 2016 but the rest of the complex is abandoned and collapsing.

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On 3/2/2020 at 10:39 AM, SleepyLeroy said:

Looks like this place in coming down this week, if not today. I believe it was a rail station at some point in the past but was most recently (30 or more years ago) a marble studio. Crazy high ceilings inside and some floors had a roof mounted conveyor beam to transport heavy stone about. Kinda sad to see it go after sticking around so long all by itself.

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Went by there the other day and it's hard to even tell where it was.  Now it's more "green space" because there's never enough of that to go around. 

7 minutes ago, jwulsin said:

According to cincinnati_revealed on Instagram, 2581 Grandin is slated for demolition. It's owned by an LLC based at 9300 Shawnee Run... which is owned by John Barrett. <sigh> https://wedge.hcauditor.org/view/re/0460004013300/2019/summary

 

 

 

 

Knew someone whos parents owned this house in the early 2000s, they moved to Florida. This house was so cool on the inside and out. Tons of custom, built in features throughout. The craftsman on the interior was just unbelievable.  I am sure John Barrett is going to buy it tear it down, for some ugly mcmansion of his choosing. Shame it cant be saved. 

It is absolutely unbelievable that something like this would be accepted for demolition.

Let's get something with cardboard doors and styrofoam trim in there instead! ?

But it'll have an ALL-NEW KITCHEN! Nothing can rival an ALL-NEW KITCHEN!

“To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”

Except an all new kitchen from one year later

1 hour ago, savadams13 said:

 

Knew someone whos parents owned this house in the early 2000s, they moved to Florida. This house was so cool on the inside and out. Tons of custom, built in features throughout. The craftsman on the interior was just unbelievable.  I am sure John Barrett is going to buy it tear it down, for some ugly mcmansion of his choosing. Shame it cant be saved. 

 

John Barrett already owns it. It has been for sale since ~ October 2017, listed for $2.25 million.

 

https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1556287/2581-Grandin-Rd-Hyde-Park-OH-45208

 

It is his family home too, they have been selling land off the Estate for years so this is no surprise, It is just another way to make money and no desire to see it become a treasured home for another family by lowering the price like the rest of us who are selling homes may have to do when it wont sell for the desired price. You cant stop these people. http://cincinnatirefined.com/arts-design/history-of-2581-grandin-road-hyde-park-cincinnati-barrett-estate

 

You have to admit that the kitchen in that house is a dungeon.  Tudor houses are some of the most difficult to do new kitchens in because of the thick brick/stone walls in the way, windows that are small and tough to move, and they're usually smashed into a far away corner that has nowhere to expand and no good relationship with the living areas.  Steam radiators, no air conditioning, and every bathroom needing a remodel is a tough pill to swallow nowadays too.  Not saying it isn't tragic, but it looks like there's an awful lot of gotchas with this house, which was bought for the land and nothing else, sadly.  

^If you care about that stuff, go live in the 99.9% of houses that aren't like that then.

2 minutes ago, jjakucyk said:

You have to admit that the kitchen in that house is a dungeon.  Tudor houses are some of the most difficult to do new kitchens in because of the thick brick/stone walls in the way, windows that are small and tough to move, and they're usually smashed into a far away corner that has nowhere to expand and no good relationship with the living areas.  Steam radiators, no air conditioning, and every bathroom needing a remodel is a tough pill to swallow nowadays too.  Not saying it isn't tragic, but it looks like there's an awful lot of gotchas with this house, which was bought for the land and nothing else, sadly.  

TBH Steam radiators rock. My 1936 tudor revival has them and I would have a hard time going back to hot air heat. Especially with pets.

 

Yeah with steam radiators everything in the house is warm, not just the air. The furniture, the floor, wood...

There's steam and then there's hot water.  I can buy the argument for hot water especially when air conditioning is not needed, and if you're using radiant under-floor or perimeter baseboards, but steam is less efficient, noisier, and harder to control and maintain.  I don't buy @GCrites80s argument about everything being warm.  I grew up in a house with radiators, and where I live now has them too.  The walls are still cold, the windows are still drafty, and the floors aren't warm.  Without a ceiling fan the hot air pools up at the ceiling too and heat doesn't move to corners or through doorways.    

Hmm, I might have been talking about hot water rather than steam now that you mention it. Steam only comes out very seldom in what I'm talking about.

My grade school had steam heat.  The best part of steam heat was tornado drills - if you were lucky your room was assigned to shelter in The Boiler Room.  It was a Catholic school, but the maintenance guys had pinup calendars and so on festooning the walls. 

23 hours ago, 10albersa said:

It is absolutely unbelievable that something like this would be accepted for demolition.

This. That house looks stunning. I can't believe it may be torn down. Can't they just add an addition for a damn new kitchen?  Work with the historical property instead of demo'ing it?

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On 5/14/2020 at 10:57 AM, jwulsin said:

According to cincinnati_revealed on Instagram, 2581 Grandin is slated for demolition. It's owned by an LLC based at 9300 Shawnee Run... which is owned by John Barrett. <sigh> https://wedge.hcauditor.org/view/re/0460004013300/2019/summary

 

 

 

 

2581 Grandin has been sold! For now, at least, appears to be out of the Barrett family and saved from demolition.  https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/08/18/barrett-familys-hyde-park-estate-sells-for.html

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On 12/17/2020 at 5:14 PM, TheCOV said:

Not sure why the "Detroitification" of Walnut Hills continues. I recall that grand house with the upper balcony Queen Anne style door (several years ago it still had a small ornamental  balustraded porch.) facing the end of the street was for sale for almost nothing. Much of its mostly walnut interior was still intact including an impressive staircase. The house had formerly been an Africa-American Masonic lodge and during the time it was up for sale quite a few interesting pieces of Masonic memorabilia remained inside the house. Blame the destruction perhaps on the deteriorated neighborhood but I think the decision to gradually clear out this area had been made long ago. Apparently, some in the Queen City still believe it's possible to demolish your way back to prosperity. Rather sad as well that many of these once fine homes also had architectural salvage of considerable value which creates the impression that they are worth more "dead" then they we're when they could have still been saved and rehabbed. Some years ago, I was mesmerized by the architectural riches of Cincinnati but over time I observed that the most frequent tool of choice for dealing with perceived "eyesores" was demolition. I reluctantly came to the conclusion that Cincinnati would never become more enlightened so I looked elsewhere.  Sorry to be disrespectful towards Detroit, some of their most deteriorated old neighborhoods, like Brush Park, have seen millions invested in recent years creating a mini urban renaissance. In the meantime, plucky old Cincinnati continues to grind its 19th century architecture into oblivion while not realizing almost anything they could conceivably now build post demolition would never surpass the quality and originality of what was there a century ago. (insert sad emoticon here)

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On 12/17/2020 at 5:14 PM, TheCOV said:

Found this pdf presentation for "May Square" on the Walnut Hill Redevelopment Foundation's website... not sure if the project has changed since then (presentation is from 2018), but you can see what the design proposal from Paramount Redevelopment Group entails. http://wearewalnuthills.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/May-Square-.pdf

 

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1 hour ago, jwulsin said:

Found this pdf presentation for "May Square" on the Walnut Hill Redevelopment Foundation's website... not sure if the project has changed since then (presentation is from 2018), but you can see what the design proposal from Paramount Redevelopment Group entails. http://wearewalnuthills.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/May-Square-.pdf

 

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Thanks!  But dear lord, why are we losing intact unique buildings for this terrible architecture? There is sooooo much available vacant land that we should not be allowing viable historic architecture to be razed.

40 minutes ago, TheCOV said:

Thanks!  But dear lord, why are we losing intact unique buildings for this terrible architecture? There is sooooo much available vacant land that we should not be allowing viable historic architecture to be razed.

Generally, I agree with you. But I'm also happy to see increased density, especially right next to the highway which is a tough spot (I wouldn't want to live there, unless the windows were super tight and sound isolating). 

 

It looks more like a site plan for a hotel, especially that main building with the corner entry and drop-off. 

1 hour ago, jjakucyk said:

It looks more like a site plan for a hotel, especially that main building with the corner entry and drop-off. 

 

I don't design residential, but I wonder if they are either directly or inadvertently designing accommodations for Ubers.

 

That or they're secretly targeting students and that'll be the UC shuttle bus stop.

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Uh oh.

 

Roof collapses on Mt. Auburn Cable Railway Building built in 1884

 

 

A partial building collapse threatens a piece of Cincinnati history in Mt. Auburn.

 

The Mt. Auburn Cable Railway Building at Dorchester and Highland avenues suffered a collapse Monday night due to the weight of snow on its roof, according to the Cincinnati Fire Department.

 

A large portion of the building fell into the basement, CFD says.

I live right around the corner from this building and drive past it often. Always hoped they’d remodel it and make it a destination for Mt. Auburn. Still hopeful  

Oh man. So sad. Hope it can be saved in some way.

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