October 19, 20159 yr Wow, that's ridiculous. Now that everyone is aware of that stupid ordinance, I hope someone on Council steps up and moves to get rid of it.
October 19, 20159 yr Wow, that's ridiculous. Now that everyone is aware of that stupid ordinance, I hope someone on Council steps up and moves to get rid of it. You can see plenty of venting during the past year on their Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/waterloobrewcleveland
October 19, 20159 yr Wow, that's ridiculous. Now that everyone is aware of that stupid ordinance, I hope someone on Council steps up and moves to get rid of it. You can see plenty of venting during the past year on their Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/waterloobrewcleveland Wonderful, one of my daughter's mom's "fan club" is commenting all over that page lol
October 19, 20159 yr Wow, that's ridiculous. Now that everyone is aware of that stupid ordinance, I hope someone on Council steps up and moves to get rid of it. I suppose the economy is so bustling that we can have these archaic regs that do nothing but hurt small business.
October 19, 20159 yr Wow, that's ridiculous. Now that everyone is aware of that stupid ordinance, I hope someone on Council steps up and moves to get rid of it. I suppose the economy is so bustling that we can have these archaic regs that do nothing but hurt small business. Well when they help the politically connected.... #aristocracyofpull
October 19, 20159 yr I could be wrong, but i think this has to do with the brewery taproom license. There is a rule that a brewery can have a taproom within a mile of the brewery. This keeps the brewery a local craft brewery vs some regional brewery popping up in a dense location miles away from the brewery. So state law not local.
October 19, 20159 yr Is this a new law "passed to benefit a campaign donor"?.... Or is it an archaic reg that does nothing but hurt small businesses?
October 19, 20159 yr Can someone explain this city ordinance and why Waterloo Brew was forced to close? By February, Waterloo Brew was shut down and left dangling in limbo, due to a Cleveland ordinance that stipulates that a brewer cannot also operate a bar more than a mile away from the brewery. Good question. Sounds like someone got a law passed to benefit a campaign donor(s). I wouldn't be surprised to learn the one mile limit also applies to suburban bars.... What a stupid law. Why does that law exist? Can someone explain it to me?
October 19, 20159 yr The writer of this article said in the comments that the law dates back to the 1920s. My God. We need regulatory reform
October 19, 20159 yr I could be wrong, but i think this has to do with the brewery taproom license. There is a rule that a brewery can have a taproom within a mile of the brewery. This keeps the brewery a local craft brewery vs some regional brewery popping up in a dense location miles away from the brewery. So state law not local. \ Local law. For instance, Great Lakes has a satellite bar location at CLE. I'm assuming this law also prevents "tasting rooms" that are popping up all over San Diego. The breweries are usually off in the hills, so they open these bars in the trendy areas to help introduce their product to new customers. It capitalizes upon and further enhances these foodie districts.
October 19, 20159 yr The writer of this article said in the comments that the law dates back to the 1920s. My God. We need regulatory reform Ahh yes, the US had such smart policies relating to alcohol in the 1920s.
October 19, 20159 yr I think the initial impetus behind this rule was to block large breweries from owning bars. It was a competition concern- that by being vertically integrated they could effectively own enough bars to make it difficult for competition to spring up. That's why in many states brewers aren't allowed to own distributors. In fact, in states where that rule isn't in effect, the Bigs are starting to buy up distributors in order to cut craft brewers out of the market by eliminating their distribution channels, and by using their muscle as distributors to strong arm shelf space and taps in retail and bar outlets for their products.
October 19, 20159 yr I think the initial impetus behind this rule was to block large breweries from owning bars. It was a competition concern- that by being vertically integrated they could effectively own enough bars to make it difficult for competition to spring up. That's why in many states brewers aren't allowed to own distributors. In fact, in states where that rule isn't in effect, the Bigs are starting to buy up distributors in order to cut craft brewers out of the market by eliminating their distribution channels, and by using their muscle as distributors to strong arm shelf space and taps in retail and bar outlets for their products. Amazing how so many regulations born to help competition often have the complete opposite effect. Distribution is a racket. Anyone want to think of a compelling reason why I can't Uber/drive kegs of beer all over the place? Does it have something to do with the Horse Safety Act of 1827?
October 19, 20159 yr Things that helped competition in 1970 can hurt it in 2015, no doubt. I'm not sure it would have been a good thing in 1990 for early microbrewers if a large number of bars were owned by Miller/Bud/etc., and only selling their products.
October 19, 20159 yr Maybe the law could use some nuance to address the relative scale of the brewer. Basing this rule on distance was clearly a workaround, which has now resulted in over-inclusive effects.
October 19, 20159 yr Things that helped competition in 1970 can hurt it in 2015, no doubt. I'm not sure it would have been a good thing in 1990 for early microbrewers if a large number of bars were owned by Miller/Bud/etc., and only selling their products. I can't see that succeeding because people go out in groups and different people like different brands.
October 19, 20159 yr Things that helped competition in 1970 can hurt it in 2015, no doubt. I'm not sure it would have been a good thing in 1990 for early microbrewers if a large number of bars were owned by Miller/Bud/etc., and only selling their products. The Burkhardt Brewing Co. in Akron used to own bars for this reason. And for other reasons they located the brothels upstairs! Anyhow, I'm wishing Mr. Malley the best of luck. He's got good taste in music and a has been a strong presence in the local music community for some time. Here's hoping the food offerings and customer service come close to what Glazen & Company would have provided.
November 5, 20159 yr I was recently wondering where the situation stood with Waterloo Brew. Now we know Malley's chocolatier set to open bar-club in Cleveland Collinwood area By John Petkovic, The Plain Dealer Email the author | Follow on Twitter on November 05, 2015 at 6:01 AM, updated November 05, 2015 at 6:11 AM CLEVELAND, Ohio -- When thinking about what to call his bar, he remembered a drinking buddy telling him: "It's always good if your name ends with the letter Y – it flows and sounds cool." Which means that Packy Malley is very optimistic about his new bar, even if he's never owned or run one before. "Look, I got TWO names that end in Y," he laughs as he sits in the bar that will be known as Packy Malley's starting Friday. "How cool is that?" The happy-go-lucky partyer, reggae promoter and Cleveland chocolatier is taking over the old Waterloo Brew bar, located in the circa-1926 Slovenian Workmen's Home, 15335 Waterloo Road, in Cleveland's Collinwood neighborhood. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/11/malleys_chocolatier_set_to_ope.html
January 13, 20169 yr Vintage La Salle set to explode with arts, mixed usage, zoomin' Internet and … cake ERIN O'BRIEN | WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 13, 2016 With a funding package all but complete, the staff at Northeast Shores Development Corporation (NSDC) in the Collinwood neighborhood is eyeing a February groundbreaking for the much-anticipated rebirth of the La Salle Theatre, 823 East 185th Street. "We're redeveloping the La Salle Theatre into the La Salle Arts and Media Center," says NSDC's executive director Brian Friedman of the 30,000-square-foot-building. "This is going to be a video and music production facility." The rehabilitated venue will also house retail and residential space. Construction is expected to be complete in time for October 2016 move-in dates. Town Center Construction is the contractor on the project, for which LDA Architects did the design. MORE: http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/lasallearts011316.aspx?platform=hootsuite "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 13, 20169 yr ^It works just fine at a keg party "Free" is on everyone's list of favorite brands.
March 16, 20169 yr Too bad we don't have a Collinwood-wide developments thread. This sounds like a cool project.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr04-04-2016.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals APRIL 4, 2016 9:30 Calendar No. 16-039: 15741 Mandalay Ave. Ward 8 Michael D. Polensek 16 Notices Mandalay Properties proposes to use a City Land Bank parcel to erect a 4,000 square foot building for home winemaking seminars and classes, accessory winery, wine and grape sales, and walk-in-cooler, and additional 8 car parking lot. The owner appeals for relief from the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances: 1. Section 337.03 which states that the use is not permitted in two family residential district, first permitted in zoning districts ranging from Multi-Family Residential to Local Retail Business District. 2. Section 352.02 through 352.12 which states that an eight foot wide landscaped transition strip providing 75% year round opacity is required at the rear of the property, and a six foot wide frontage strip providing 50% year round opacity is required where parking lot abuts street. Landscaping plan required. 3. Section 357.08(b)(1) which states that a 20 foot rear yard is required where a13 foot rear yard is provided. (Filed February 25, 2016) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 3, 20169 yr http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2016/05062016/index.php Cleveland Planning Commission Agenda for May 6, 2016 NORTHEAST DESIGN REVIEW NE2016-009 – OH Perry Elementary School New Construction: Seeking Conceptual Approval Project Address: 18400 Schenely Avenue Project Representative: Patty Chobi, Cobalt Group NE2016-005 – Collinwood Juice Company New Construction: Seeking Final Approval Project Address: 15741 Mandalay Avenue Project Representatives: Carl Cocita, Collinwood Juice Terry Valencic, RDG "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 26, 20169 yr Collinwood group seeks Cleveland tax abatement for theater renovation May 25, 2016 UPDATED 11 HOURS AGO By JAY MILLER An East Side community development group soon will move ahead on the renovation of a 1920s-era movie theater. Northeast Shores Development Corp. on Tuesday, May 24, presented to a Cleveland City Council committee plans for a $4 million modernization of the LaSalle Theater on East 185th Street into the LaSalle Arts & Media Center. Northeast Shores is asking the city for a 10-year, 60% tax abatement and a $700,000 forgivable loan. The project is expected to create the equivalent of 25 full-time jobs. The financial package still needs approval by the full council. MORE: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20160525/NEWS/160529896/collinwood-group-seeks-cleveland-tax-abatement-for-theater-renovation "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 5, 20168 yr As of July 1st, I live in Beulah Park. So I still may be a "defender of the sprawl" on libertarian grounds, but I am no longer a participant.
July 5, 20168 yr As of July 1st, I live in Beulah Park. So I still may be a "defender of the sprawl" on libertarian grounds, but I am no longer a participant. I'm stunned. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 5, 20168 yr As of July 1st, I live in Beulah Park. So I still may be a "defender of the sprawl" on libertarian grounds, but I am no longer a participant. I sure hope its at least waterfront!
July 5, 20168 yr As of July 1st, I live in Beulah Park. So I still may be a "defender of the sprawl" on libertarian grounds, but I am no longer a participant. I sure hope its at least waterfront! You can't throw a rock in the lake, but you can see it and hit it with a bottle rocket. Quiet so far, except for maybe last night. My brother has lived up there for years, couldn't pass up the deal offered from a friend of his.
July 5, 20168 yr As of July 1st, I live in Beulah Park. So I still may be a "defender of the sprawl" on libertarian grounds, but I am no longer a participant. I sure hope its at least waterfront! You can't throw a rock in the lake, but you can see it and hit it with a bottle rocket. Quiet so far, except for maybe last night. My brother has lived up there for years, couldn't pass up the deal offered from a friend of his. We're essentially neighbors. We go to that Dave's for quick things frequently.
July 6, 20168 yr http://www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2016/07/waterloo_neighborhood_gets_top.html
August 9, 20168 yr Historic La Salle Theatre in Collinwood ready for a $4.1M makeover starting today (photos) CLEVELAND, Ohio – Depending on how you count it, the historic La Salle Theatre on East 185th Street in Collinwood is embarking on its second, third or fourth life. Built in 1927 as movie palace, it languished in the 1990s before becoming a vintage auto showroom and then going vacant for about a decade until now. The nonprofit Northeast Shores Development Corp., which helped rescue the building from foreclosure and possible demolition in 2009, is scheduled to launch a $4.1 million renovation Tuesday that will turn the structure into an arts, media, and community center by next May. The theater, which could seat 800 for performances or 450 for weddings, dinners and other catered events, will be used as a performing arts rehearsal or recording space, an exhibit hall, a stage for high school theater and arts programs, and as a meeting space for businesses and community organizations. http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2016/08/collinwoods_historic_la_salle.html#incart_gallery
September 28, 20168 yr This appears to be Baetzold Supply. Glad to see them investing in their business.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr10-10-2016.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals MONDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2016 9:30 Calendar No. 16-250: 19001 Nottingham Rd. Ward 10 Jeffrey D. Johnson 20 Notices NB Cleveland LLC, owner, proposes to construct a new showroom, a garage including and outside wood storage for a landscaping contractor business in a D1 General Retail Business District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances: 1. Section 343.11(b) which states that Landscaping contractor business with outside storage is not permitted in a General Retail Business District, first permitted in a Semi-Industry District. 2. Section 345.04 ©(33) which states that outside material storage is first permitted in a Semi-Industry District, and must be surrounded by a seven foot high, nontransparent fence where a six foot high wood fence is proposed. (Filed September 15, 2016) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 3, 20178 yr I was recently wondering where the situation stood with Waterloo Brew. Now we know Malley's chocolatier set to open bar-club in Cleveland Collinwood area By John Petkovic, The Plain Dealer Email the author | Follow on Twitter on November 05, 2015 at 6:01 AM, updated November 05, 2015 at 6:11 AM CLEVELAND, Ohio -- When thinking about what to call his bar, he remembered a drinking buddy telling him: "It's always good if your name ends with the letter Y – it flows and sounds cool." Which means that Packy Malley is very optimistic about his new bar, even if he's never owned or run one before. "Look, I got TWO names that end in Y," he laughs as he sits in the bar that will be known as Packy Malley's starting Friday. "How cool is that?" The happy-go-lucky partyer, reggae promoter and Cleveland chocolatier is taking over the old Waterloo Brew bar, located in the circa-1926 Slovenian Workmen's Home, 15335 Waterloo Road, in Cleveland's Collinwood neighborhood. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/11/malleys_chocolatier_set_to_ope.html I'm not sure what's up with them. It always seems completely dark even 10pm ish lately, but yesterday I went by around 6:30pm and there was some activity. Google is saying permanently closed. The website is up but it has no events on the calendar. Further update: It's reopened as "Classic's Sports Bar". Seems pretty busy. They had heavy competition for reggae bands over there. The bigger ones can play at the Beachland, smaller ones at Calalloo.
December 20, 20177 yr http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2014/10/waterloo_will_celebrate_a_new.html Reading this and looking at the district today, I'm thinking the project did more harm than good. Cleveland Clothing is gone, and there's lots of other vacancies.
December 20, 20177 yr http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2014/10/waterloo_will_celebrate_a_new.html Reading this and looking at the district today, I'm thinking the project did more harm than good. Cleveland Clothing is gone, and there's lots of other vacancies. Some people also said that right after the Euclid Corridor project opened, and the poorly run Cleveland Athletic Club closed (while the well-run Union Club across the street did not close). A couple of other small shops and restaurants closed nearby too. But you won't many find people now who didn't think the project was worthwhile. Similar deal in Kamms Corners. I seem to recall a shop or two closed during construction of its streetscape nearly a decade ago. But it ended up pumping new life into that business district. Not all streetscapes are panaceas. But it's not fair to judge them the day they open. Instead, measure the impact after 5-10 years. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 20, 20177 yr http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2014/10/waterloo_will_celebrate_a_new.html Reading this and looking at the district today, I'm thinking the project did more harm than good. Cleveland Clothing is gone, and there's lots of other vacancies. Some people also said that right after the Euclid Corridor project opened, and the poorly run Cleveland Athletic Club closed (while the well-run Union Club across the street did not close). A couple of other small shops and restaurants closed nearby too. But you won't many find people now who didn't think the project was worthwhile. Similar deal in Kamms Corners. I seem to recall a shop or two closed during construction of its streetscape nearly a decade ago. But it ended up pumping new life into that business district. Not all streetscapes are panaceas. But it's not fair to judge them the day they open. Instead, measure the impact after 5-10 years. This is three years old now. Perhaps the original article was a tad pollyannish (wow, twice in one day using that word!) but I'd bet the rate is way above 6% now, and the corner Loren Naji's gallery is on just made "Cleveland Crime and Safety". I'm off Friday afternoon, maybe I'll walk up and down the street and count it out. You'd probably be surprised how often I hope you're right and this is very much one of those times.
December 22, 20177 yr With all the hype in the past few years and all the artists who have set up studios including for weaving, as well as the outdoor sculptures and murals, Waterloo still appears to me a very quiet place unless one is inside the Ballroom. It still has no regular, sit-down family-type restaurants, or any other regular-hours sit-down restaurant, and no new housing worth mentioning. No new townhouses, condos or apartments, new commercial buildings, or commercial attractions as popular as a Sweet Moses. A handful of funky stores but no good new clothing stores, antique dealers, quality salons, live theaters, hardware stores, pharmacies, unusual food stores, indie bookstores, etc. I'm referring to Waterloo - East 156th street area. Not East 185, though that's nothing like it was as a shopping district draw, and certainly not southward down East 152nd Street.... Maybe that's okay, as we now have a bunch of other Cleveland city neighborhoods that offer all that,
December 23, 20177 yr With all the hype in the past few years and all the artists who have set up studios including for weaving, as well as the outdoor sculptures and murals, Waterloo still appears to me a very quiet place unless one is inside the Ballroom. It still has no regular, sit-down family-type restaurants, or any other regular-hours sit-down restaurant, and no new housing worth mentioning. No new townhouses, condos or apartments, new commercial buildings, or commercial attractions as popular as a Sweet Moses. A handful of funky stores but no good new clothing stores, antique dealers, quality salons, live theaters, hardware stores, pharmacies, unusual food stores, indie bookstores, etc. I'm referring to Waterloo - East 156th street area. Not East 185, though that's nothing like it was as a shopping district draw, and certainly not southward down East 152nd Street.... Maybe that's okay, as we now have a bunch of other Cleveland city neighborhoods that offer all that, Yeah, that's my take too. Some of the stories about the Sunoco shootout called it a neighborhood that includes "trendy restaurants", I was like "where"? Citizen Pie is different, and maybe Calalloo, but that's it. There's a couple record stores but they are literally that, and since I can't hear a difference between vinyl and MP3s I don't have a turntable. Star Pop is nice but small, Cleveland Clothing is gone. Seems to be more vacancies than there were. Ironically, when I lived in Northfield Village I used to say they needed one more draw to complement the Rocksino. Same applies to Waterloo.
December 23, 20177 yr We've wasted enough money on streetscape projects. No more. The real streetscape is the neighborhood itself, i.e. the buildings and what's happening inside them. That's where public investment should focus. Improve the availability of walkable services and attractions. Lafont just provided a nice list to work from. These investments always support some kind of business, but we've shown extreme favoritism toward paving and landscaping businesses. Please let's throw money at something else, anything else.
December 29, 20177 yr Another staple gone: https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2017/12/29/after-this-weekend-music-saves-to-close
December 29, 20177 yr Another staple gone: https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2017/12/29/after-this-weekend-music-saves-to-close Aw man. That’s a real downer.
January 16, 20187 yr http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2018/crr01-22-2018.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals JANUARY 22, 2018 9:30 Calendar No. 17-351: 15619 Waterloo Rd. Ward 8 Michael D. Polensek 27 Notices Spacepop LLC., owner, proposes to establish use as an art gallery and sales and a catering facility in a C2 Local Retail Business District and a Pedestrian Retail Overlay District (PRO). The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances: 1. Section 343.11 which states that an art gallery with sales is first permitted in the General Retail Business District. 2. Section 345.03 which states that a catering facility is first permitted in the Semi-industrial district. (Filed November 30, 2017) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 17, 20187 yr http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2018/crr01-22-2018.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals JANUARY 22, 2018 9:30 Calendar No. 17-351: 15619 Waterloo Rd. Ward 8 Michael D. Polensek 27 Notices Spacepop LLC., owner, proposes to establish use as an art gallery and sales and a catering facility in a C2 Local Retail Business District and a Pedestrian Retail Overlay District (PRO). The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances: 1. Section 343.11 which states that an art gallery with sales is first permitted in the General Retail Business District. 2. Section 345.03 which states that a catering facility is first permitted in the Semi-industrial district. (Filed November 30, 2017) The exterior of that building has looked redone for awhile. Kind of late in the day it seems. "Spacepop" and "Starpop" within a block of each other now.
October 3, 20186 yr A couple Waterloo district items I heard after a body was found yesterday morning behind the "Roscoe's" convenience store on E. 156th just north of Waterloo. 1) Some of the other business owners are trying to get their liquor license pulled. The last few months there's always been a group hanging outside the door. Also they don't let patrons of anywhere but Callaloo use their (large) parking lot. 2) The "gold building" on the NW corner may be rehabbed instead of demolished.
October 7, 20186 yr Those are both good news. I was really bummed when I first heard that building was going to be demoed. Really happy someone has some in to rehab it instead. Apartments over retail? And best of luck for them getting that license pulled. That place has been a mess every time I've been over there.
November 30, 20186 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 6, 20196 yr Cleveland City Council clears way for $20 million senior housing project to move ahead in old Longfellow grade school in Collinwood https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2019/02/cleveland-city-council-clears-way-for-20-million-senior-housing-project-to-move-ahead-in-old-longfellow-grade-school-in-collinwood.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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