What was Cleveland's homicide rate per 100,000 in 2006 and so far this year? Thank You

I think Cleveland is at 122, Toledo is at 12. What about the other large cities in Ohio? Dayton, Youngstown, Columbus, Cincy, Akron, Lorain.

Youngstown is holding at 33.

To my knowledge, Lorain remains at 8.  Only new homicide in Lorain County I can recall was out in the southern townships where a 16 year old shot and killed his mom and shot his dad, a local pastor, in the face.  Dad survived after a lengthy stay at Metro, kid is being tried as an adult.

55 in cincy

Thank you for the responses. Atleast Cincy has decreased alot from the last few years. What were the major causes for the large increase after 2000? (99') 29, (00') 15, then in 2001 55 homicides which increased to 89 last year with a rate of nearly 29 per 100,000.

 

 

A police lieutenant told me, I kid you not, that the reason the homicides increased was that drug dealers, who had previously shot each other in the legs to prove a point, started shooting to kill.  these things have a tendency to spiral out of control

Add that to the hands off approach the police took after the riots, and its not hard to imagine the 89 homicides.

cleveland.com

 

Cleveland homicides approach 1995 level

Posted by Donna J. Miller December 07, 2007 10:51AM

Categories: Crime

 

Cleveland homicides may reach more than 130 before year's end.

 

It has been 12 years since there was that much bloodshed.

 

So far this year, there have been 128 homicides. Last year, there were 119.

 

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I know this is about Ohio, but you have to really hand it to NYC, which will likely end up with fewer than 500 murders this year. In 1990 they had over 2200...7 a day!!! For a city of 8.2Mil...that's remarkable.

 

Also of the 400+ murders so far, only 35 have been "random." And of those 400, over 80% have felony convictions.

 

Source: NY Times

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/23/nyregion/23murder.html?hp

 

 

Youngstown's total has jumped to 36.

akron has 21 so far this year

I guess Cleveland is now at 131. Is Toledo still at 12?

To my knowledge, Lorain remains at 8.  Only new homicide in Lorain County I can recall was out in the southern townships where a 16 year old shot and killed his mom and shot his dad, a local pastor, in the face.  Dad survived after a lengthy stay at Metro, kid is being tried as an adult.

 

bump to 9 for lorain:

 

http://www.morningjournal.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19114882&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46371&rfi=6

 

Thanks for the link Mr. NYC. So Lorain is 4 up on last years total. Is this the most homicides Lorain has ever seen in a year?

When they say "homicides" are they including random freak accidents with cars, etc? Or are these "intentional" homicides?

David, I believe the term Homicide is used synonomously with Murder in this context. Cleveland is now up to 134 I believe. http://www.cleveland.com/crime/

If I remember correctly, Cincinnati was at 100+ homicides a year for about two straight years.  Following last year's record breaking number, Cincinnati has managed to drop that number to somewhere around 50 this year (give or take a few in either direction, and once again if I remember correctly).  That's a stunning improvement.

^I'd say. Did they import them to Cleveland?

Thanks for the link Mr. NYC. So Lorain is 4 up on last years total. Is this the most homicides Lorain has ever seen in a year?

 

not sure if it is a record considering the city pop has shrunk, but it might be. i would guess it is, but i couldn't officially find anything. here are the murder stats from 2001-2006: 1, 2, 5, 6, 6 & 5, so this year is definately the most over the last few years.

 

David, I believe the term Homicide is used synonomously with Murder in this context. Cleveland is now up to 134 I believe. http://www.cleveland.com/crime/

 

147 and that guns accounted for 108 of those according to that link.

 

anyone know -- are these plotted out on a map by neighborhood somewhere -- as they are for youngstown?

I lied above...here is the data straight off of the CPD's webpage:

 

Cincinnati Homicide Totals

2005:  79

2006:  85

2007:  55 (as of 11/21/07)

http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/police/pages/-4258-/

147?  That can't be right- we were at 128 a little over a week ago, and we haven't had 19 since then.  134 sounds more accurate.  Cuyahoga County might have 147, but not Cleveland proper.

 

mrnyc- this is the cleveland.com map of homicides in the county, but it's not totally up to date.

http://www.cleveland.com/pdgraphics/interactive/homicide_map/

If I remember correctly, Cincinnati was at 100+ homicides a year for about two straight years.  Following last year's record breaking number, Cincinnati has managed to drop that number to somewhere around 50 this year (give or take a few in either direction, and once again if I remember correctly).  That's a stunning improvement.

100+??? I don't think so, I think we had 81 last year.

If I remember correctly, Cincinnati was at 100+ homicides a year for about two straight years.  Following last year's record breaking number, Cincinnati has managed to drop that number to somewhere around 50 this year (give or take a few in either direction, and once again if I remember correctly).  That's a stunning improvement.

100+??? I don't think so, I think we had 81 last year.

 

I know...my memory isn't as good as I thought.  I did correct myself though already.  Look a couple posts up^

147?  That can't be right- we were at 128 a little over a week ago, and we haven't had 19 since then.  134 sounds more accurate.  Cuyahoga County might have 147, but not Cleveland proper.

 

mrnyc- this is the cleveland.com map of homicides in the county, but it's not totally up to date.

http://www.cleveland.com/pdgraphics/interactive/homicide_map/

 

thx -- that map is interesting in that other than the far southwest it looks like the deaths are quite scattered around town. that is similar to youngstown. unless i am looking at it wrong?

 

also, i got the 147 from the link, but....homocides? hmm, yeah i bet they did get it wrong!:

 

"TOP STORY

Where do the guns come from?

Out of Cleveland's 147 homocides, guns account for 108

• Preventing gun violence

• Homocide list grows

• Graphic: State Laws | 3 Victims | Pros & Cons of NRA Plan

• Forum: Talk about this story "

 

 

also, i got the 147 from the link, but....homocides? hmm, yeah i bet they did get it wrong!:

 

"TOP STORY

Where do the guns come from?

Out of Cleveland's 147 homocides, guns account for 108

• Preventing gun violence

• Homocide list grows

• Graphic: State Laws | 3 Victims | Pros & Cons of NRA Plan

• Forum: Talk about this story "

 

 

Ya, I was expressing my disbelief with them, not with you!  :-)

 

thx -- that map is interesting in that other than the far southwest it looks like the deaths are quite scattered around town. that is similar to youngstown. unless i am looking at it wrong?

 

Actually, I think they're pretty clustered on the west side.  Very generally, it looks like the two main areas are around W. 130 between 71 and 480 in Puritas-Longmeade, and around the triangle formed by Clark, Lorain, and W. 25 in southern Detroit-Shoreway and OC (I wonder if it's any coincidence that there are also all of those train tracks and 90 running through that area?) 

 

On the east side, they do seem a little more scattered, but there seem to be some pockets as well:  southern St. Clair-Superior, around Eddy Rd. in Forest Hills, along Union Ave. from Kinsman to Mt. Pleasant.

 

I wish there were an updated version of the map available.  It would be interesting to see how well those patterns hold.

805 homicides so far this year in county of LA (Per the LA times).  Population of 9.95M (Per Wikipedia).  1 killing per 12,360 citizens.  I'd be interested to see the ratios for some more areas...

805 homicides so far this year in county of LA (Per the LA times).  Population of 9.95M (Per Wikipedia).  1 killing per 12,360 citizens.  I'd be interested to see the ratios for some more areas...

 

only one way to find out:

 

Cuyahoga county 1,393,978 people/147 murders = 9483 citzens per murder.

 

and wow, LA county is frikin huge!  4,061 square miles -- that's 4 times the land of Cuyahoga County

 

 

The city of Cincinnati murder totals maybe down but i'm 100% sure the suburban areas or cities around Cincinnati are way way up this year.

The city of Cincinnati murder totals maybe down but i'm 100% sure the suburban areas or cities around Cincinnati are way way up this year.

 

Could you share some data on this then?

I don't know where to find data but i'd guess there are increases in Forest Park and other northern suburbs.

I don't know where to find that data either, but the media has sure covered a more than usual crime year in the norther burbs.   While P-Hill and Westwood have been in the news this year, I don't feel they have been in the news as much as previous years.   This would all be opinions from someone who watches and reads news quite often.   The media could also be tired of covering the same old neighborhoods on the west side so they have been shifting there focus north.   ?????????????

 

Hopefully someone may have something to shed some light.

The city of Cincinnati murder totals maybe down but i'm 100% sure the suburban areas or cities around Cincinnati are way way up this year.

 

Could you share some data on this then?

I don't have the data on hand. I do know their were 2 murders just around the corner from me in silverton and just 2 days before that, 2 other people got shot but not killed. I guess someone could look at the crime stats at the county level to find out.I'm heard of alot of murders in the rural area's of the metro area also.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the downturn in the economy HAS to have an overall effect on this with foreclosures being so widespread and indiscriminate about neighborhood boundaries.   As for ALL the burbs go, this could only be the beginning.

What happened to all the posts?

Technical difficulties:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=14823.msg243245#msg243245

Toledo ended with 13 homicide for the CY of 2007.  Along with 133 in Cleveland, 79 homicides in Columbus and 68 in Cincinnati and I am not sure of Akron, Dayton, Lima, Youngstown, Mansfield, Canton or Lorain's figures.

 

Toddler among 13 homicides during '07; hard work, luck cited for solving every case

By LAREN WEBER BLADE STAFF WRITER

Posted on Toledo Blade website 1/2/08

 

 

Toledo's homicide rate hovered near a record low at 11 until last week when two people, including a toddler, were killed.

 

One day after Christmas, 23-month-old Tayvon Evans arrived at Toledo Hospital unconscious and severely beaten. He died less than an hour later.

 

The toddler had cuts on his wrists from being restrained, a burn on his leg, lacerations, and injuries to his head and chest, police said.

 

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The City of Cincinnati saw a 25% decrease in homicides from 2006 to 2007.  At the same time Covington, KY (Nky's largest city) saw a 50% decrease in homicides from six in 2006 to three in 2007.

I have been tracking Cleveland and Akron homicides for parts of 2005, all of 2006, and all of 2007 using Microsoft Maps. I definately have been able to pinpoint where the clusters or pockets are at, especially when combining more than 2 years worth of homicides. Here is what I can say as of 1-2-08:

 

The west bank of the flats, the CMHA neighborhood underneath the Shoreway, and the area of W. 25th and Detroit had 9 homicides in 2 years. I might be missing 1 or 2 that happened this year, but they almost all happened near Mulberry/Hemlock, which is basically a nomansland if you ask me. There are 2 clubs which accounted for SOME of the murders but not all.

 

In 2006 and 2007, the Buckeye neighborhood, particularly south of Buckeye and areas a bit further south along Kinsman and Union accounted for 10+

 

The area between I-77 to the west, E. 71st to the east, Fleet to the north, Harvard to the south had 5+ in '06 and '07 including a church that was set fire on Fleet.

 

All along Clark from W. 25th to W. 105th, north to Lorain/Madison, south to Storer are a lot of homicides. Most were near W. 73rd/Madison and Clark/W. 50th. Surprisingly, 4 took place near Lake/Detroit, 2 of which were the artists killed on the same day, the 3rd was W. 80th/Detroit, a 20 year old male, and the 4th was a deli clerk at Lake near Clifton.

 

5 in the entire Hough neighborhood.

 

ALL AROUND E. 105th between St. Clair to the north and Chester to the south.

 

Now, important to note is that I charted sex offenders, major crimes such as arson, attempted murder, and major drug raids, etc.. Most of the areas above also have a lot of these things as well. My point is, these neighborhoods have many BAD things happening in them besides homicides.

 

As for Akron, I would say based on my map, that the areas surrounding the junction of I-77/RT-8 on ALL sides had the most homicides including south of U of Akron, east of Summit Lake, west of Goodyear and north of Akron Fulton Airport.

 

I am continuing to track these crimes, so in 2015, I should have an even better representation! *sigh*

^^ Actually, today's PD reported 134 homicides in 2007 for Cleveland.

I'm still pretty sure that the total number of homicides in Youngstown for 2007 is 39.

 

I hope this was just a bad year, and not the beginning of a trend.

I hope Youngstown can decrease the homicide rate in their city, I believe they can. What did Dayton Finish with for the year?  I think they were under 30, am I correct?

 

Hopefully cities have started off this year good.

From DDN, it also includes Montgomery Country which makes up a big chuck of the metro:

 

Breakdown of Montgomery County's 2007 homicides, according to the Montgomery County Coroner's Office:

 

Dayton: 33

 

Harrison Twp.: 6

 

Jefferson Twp.: 3

 

Kettering: 1

 

Riverside: 1

 

Miami Twp.:1

 

Englewood:1

 

Any updates for various cities?

I believe LA County finished the year at 820.

aww we lost this stuff....here it is again:

 

 

New York City Murders Fall Once Again

By Matthew Harwood

01/02/2008 - New York City has decreased its murder rate once again, only this time it's record breaking.

 

Via The New York Times:

 

The police said that there were 494 recorded homicides in 2007, meaning that the city had so far logged fewer than 500 for the first time since reliable statistics became available 44 years ago. Last year, there were 596 homicides. Continuing a 15-year trend, the murder rate in New York City has gone lower than many would have imagined. "It's dramatic," said Joseph A. Pollini, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "It's phenomenal. It's sort of unheard of."

 

The police credit three ways they have driven down the number of murders year-after-year:

 

Operation Impact - The four year old program teams policy academy graduates with seasoned officers in the roughest neighborhoods. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said all 914 recruits sworn in last Thursday will enter Operation Impact. Many will find themselves in parts of Brooklyn, where crime has been stubbornly high.

 

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Another explanation I heard is that 20-30 years ago they started removing lead from schools and all sorts of bldgs around the city.  Now, the kids who grew up lead free are apparently less inclined to violence; as it has been shown that there is a definite link between lead exposure and violence.

 

I find it amusing sometimes that police will always take credit, or a mayor (ahem... giuliani) will or the city council will etc... They say that their new "crime tracking" software made the crime stop! Or that flooding the streets with cops made all the criminals stop being criminals etc..  I would say usually there's more of a socioeconomic reason behind these numbers (which absolutely could include an increased police presence) and that one thing will hardly ever contribute that much of a decline.

 

How many cities have the same technology that NY is using? Did they see the same drop in numbers? Weren't the numbers dropping before 2003?  There must be another explanation -

I don't agree with all of them, but Freakanomics has some interesting theories for crime reduction

 

^lead exposure can cause serious learning, developmental and behavior problems in children that they do not "outgrow" . Cleveland children test way above average for lead exposure. Much of it is in the housing, but I believe the air quality may play into this as well.