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Some night shots of the west-facing framework for the diagonal peak and a rendering of the lighting effect for this peak.

 

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Any idea the timeframe for the crane? Looking at their project timeline 'Enclosure Construction' seems to run into mid/late 2024, but not sure the crane would be necessary all of it?

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14 minutes ago, GISguy said:

Any idea the timeframe for the crane? Looking at their project timeline 'Enclosure Construction' seems to run into mid/late 2024, but not sure the crane would be necessary all of it?

Just my guess here:

Not sure if they'll have any roof top equipment, but they'll need the crane to finish the structure, finish the glass, put any potential RTUs up, then dismantle the buckhoist (construction elevator), install the glass where the buckhoist was. Potentially use it to install signage.

 

I could see it being used potentially into early April with all of that in mind, and there's no other hiccups or delays.

Hopefully the crane is still up with all the National Media being in town for April 5 - 7 for the NCAA Women’s Final Four:  https://clevelandncaawff.com

 

Will make for some great aerial shots and overall feeling of progress in the city. 

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And the eclipse! 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Finally, a sunny afternoon.

Happy February everyone!

 

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I know basically the bare minimum when it comes to construction and that the tower is the main focal point. But is it just more or is that garage moving at a snails pace? Or does all the turns, slopes, etc. make it much more intricate? Genuinely curious

9 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said:

I know basically the bare minimum when it comes to construction and that the tower is the main focal point. But is it just more or is that garage moving at a snails pace? Or does all the turns, slopes, etc. make it much more intricate? Genuinely curious

 

Caveating this with I also know nothing but my guess is they have less people working on it so it moves slower because why push to complete that early when it won't be used anyway until the tower is complete anyway. No reason to spend the extra money on even more construction workers I would think. Total guess though lol

I also heard from a buddy and I think Ken wrote about it as well that whoever started it did it wrong, not sure if they went back to fix it 

Still wondering why they wouldn't build the garage with the capacity to have a future tower built above it.  Seems like a no-brainer for possible future expansion or even for the potential sale of space

to a third party.  I'm sure it would've elevated costs initially - but  seems like it would've been a wise investment. 

Does anyone else think the paneling on the shack along Frankfort is incredibly misaligned, to an obvious and annoying extent?

yea. all of the paneling besides the glass looks cheap and unsubstantial. the shack reminds of the fidelity investment building in crocker park

3 hours ago, ArtMasterCLE said:

Finally, a sunny afternoon.

Happy February everyone!

 

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@ArtMasterCLEstaring down high speed RTA buses to get the perfect shots for us out-of-towners.  

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The east facing crown metalwork started going up today. I noticed while driving on the shoreway after work. 

Great shots from Euclid Avenue.  Now if The City could remove the Christmas Decorations from that street it would be even better!

2 minutes ago, dave2017 said:

Great shots from Euclid Avenue.  Now if The City could remove the Christmas Decorations from that street it would be even better!

I’m still trying to get my wife to finish putting ours away, so I can relate.

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17 hours ago, GREGinPARMA said:

I know basically the bare minimum when it comes to construction and that the tower is the main focal point. But is it just more or is that garage moving at a snails pace? Or does all the turns, slopes, etc. make it much more intricate? Genuinely curious

 

They've had some problems in constructing the garage, including having to remove improperly placed concrete (like it being poured over drains, etc) and redo it. And then you get into the whole supply chain problems that continue from the pandemic.

 

 

16 hours ago, CleveFan said:

Still wondering why they wouldn't build the garage with the capacity to have a future tower built above it.  Seems like a no-brainer for possible future expansion or even for the potential sale of space

to a third party.  I'm sure it would've elevated costs initially - but  seems like it would've been a wise investment. 

 

I agree 100 percent. In fact, I'm considering writing about it.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ Agreed, I believe the planning committee suggested that to them during the planning process, Sherwin Williams shrugged it off. They also definitely suggested adding a couple more floors either above or below. If Sherwin Williams had taken either suggestion they would be in a better situation, and if they had taken both they'd have much clearer path to construct a second tower. 

Please do @KJP An investigative piece on this topic would be extremely interesting - especially given your revelations that there were cautions, in advance, given to SW about  the wisdom of this approach. 
 

I’d also love it @Geowizicalor one of our other talented artists - if it would be possible to create a rendering where a 500 foot tower is positioned above the garage. if that had been the case, HQ1 wouldn’t be as visually blocked from the western perspective by the forthcoming HQ2

 

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@CleveFan Unfortunately it's not going to be an investigative piece.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Reading Any piece of writing you do on the subject will be time well spent, @KJP

Well… if the SHW’s growth requires a second, taller-than-500-feet tower, there’s still plenty of parking lots in the vicinity which could be bought and built on. And if they require a connection keeping people from having to brave the outside, they could tunnel.  There’s ways around this, but it seems as though this is all self-created by SHW.

3 minutes ago, Oldmanladyluck said:

Well… if the SHW’s growth requires a second, taller-than-500-feet tower, there’s still plenty of parking lots in the vicinity which could be bought and built on. And if they require a connection keeping people from having to brave the outside, they could tunnel.  There’s ways around this, but it seems as though this is all self-created by SHW.

 

Perhaps too tangential for this thread - but expanding the rapid to the near west side would help alleviate a LOT of that issue, especially with a direct dropoff at tower city

I know there are alot of (legitimate) complaints about SHW being such a conservative company, less than forthcoming and welcoming to the public. But there is an upside as well. That being as other companies are downsizing office space due to WFH they have actually built NEW office space and are already expanding on that. They are doing it by staying true to their conservative values and requiring workers to adhere to an old fashioned policy which is WFO (work from office). 

 

I may be in the minority and l'm sure l'm swimming upstream but l continue to advocate for companies to locate their workers in downtown offices fulltime. The spinoff benefits greatly enhance the downtown experience in my mind - reality be damned.

I don't suppose there's a way they could sacrifice a few parking spaces and drill new supports for something atop the garage through the existing parking deck, is there? I'm not familiar with the precise design or physics of parking garages and whether that would compromise the entire structure.

@cadmen  I agree.  While most of the world is dealing with empty or emptying office buildings forcing some downtowns to deal with existential challenges, I find it almost shocking that this was built in the first place.  Add to that that much of the planning, designing, approvals, etc (well, I assume much of it) was done during the Covid era in which no one had any set ideas on what the future might look like, and I'm not surprised things went a little... shall we say... "unforeseenedly"?  There, I made up another word.

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Taken from Twitter. First pic is from @DowntownCLE and second is from @EMSinCLE

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Are those skylights being added to the atrium portion of "The Shack"?  The odd feature to me is how the last section of the front facade nearest to Frankfurt doesn't  continue the other two angled sections.

1 minute ago, dave2017 said:

Are those skylights being added to the atrium portion of "The Shack"?  The odd feature to me is how the last section of the front facade nearest to Frankfurt doesn't  continue the other two angled sections.

Lots of angles going on here

@MayDaycan I use your picture for my IG story? I can follow and tag too if you'd like

I guess it's not an optimal placement for solar panels, but I'd like to see some on the roof of the "shack." 

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I was surprised to see how bright the new tower looked in the late afternoon sun yesterday, seen from Lakewood 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Sure looks familiar!! I love how they angled it like what was talked about upthread for HQ2

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2 hours ago, cadmen said:

I know there are alot of (legitimate) complaints about SHW being such a conservative company, less than forthcoming and welcoming to the public. But there is an upside as well. That being as other companies are downsizing office space due to WFH they have actually built NEW office space and are already expanding on that. They are doing it by staying true to their conservative values and requiring workers to adhere to an old fashioned policy which is WFO (work from office). 

 

I may be in the minority and l'm sure l'm swimming upstream but l continue to advocate for companies to locate their workers in downtown offices fulltime. The spinoff benefits greatly enhance the downtown experience in my mind - reality be damned.

I can only agree to a certain extent. If more housing options were made available i.e. downtown for purchase condos + townhomes and if public transit is expanded, made more efficient and equitable, I can kind of see where you're coming from as it would make commutes more walkable/bikeable. I'm not saying that there is no need for offices at all, they most certainly do but, in the Midwest, however, driving 20-60 minutes in ICE vehicles that can seat 5 but only carries 1 is wasteful. The amount of space we use just to store people's cars is wasteful as well. I think we're squandering a once in a lifetime opportunity to rethink how cities and downtowns function, our relationship to work-life balance and the positive mental health effects of WFH, lowering commuting carbon emissions, as well as lowering office overhead costs. Going to the office just to be on remote zoom calls is counter-intuitive to me.

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I would have thought that Texas Tower was designed by Pickard Chilton but come to find that it was designed by a different firm, Pelli Clarke & Partners.  

Here’s another vantage point: 

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Nice shot of the east facing crown steel work.  Thanks for the updated pics!!

1 hour ago, dave2017 said:

I would have thought that Texas Tower was designed by Pickard Chilton but come to find that it was designed by a different firm, Pelli Clarke & Partners.  

The building to the left of the Texas Tower in the first Houston picture with the sloping crown was designed by Pickard Chilton.  It is the 609 Main St tower.

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6 minutes ago, deanhorn said:

The building to the left of the Texas Tower in the first Houston picture with the sloping crown was designed by Pickard Chilton.  It is the 609 Main St tower.

I like the design of 609 Main Street. It has 48 floors and is 752' tall. Would love to see it in CLE.

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I think Cleveland could use a good, Jeanne Gang building!

(I also wish I could figure out how to make my pics smaller)

 

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What is the clearance under the walkway from the tower to the shack?

A new nighttime pic from JonesDrones Instagram 

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