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2 hours ago, GREGinPARMA said:

Yeah, you're probably right. And I hope you are. I just always envisioned some grand lighting ceremony. And I'm a little surprised the logos were lit for a day or two but have since gone dark. Probably just a testing period

Ohh I didn't realize. Did someone snag photos of that? Also, who knows...maybe the LED lighting is already installed? You can clearly see in some of the photos that the vertical stripes where the lighting is supposed to be is thicker than the rest. 

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So I was going by along the interstate and noticed green lights inside the building last night. At first I thought they may have been reflections and couldn’t tell if my eyes were fooling me or not… but they definitely look as though they were coming from inside the building.

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Oldmanladyluck said:

So I was going by along the interstate and noticed green lights inside the building last night. At first I thought they may have been reflections and couldn’t tell if my eyes were fooling me or not… but they definitely look as though they were coming from inside the building.

 

 

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My guess would be exit signs.

3 hours ago, Oldmanladyluck said:

So I was going by along the interstate and noticed green lights inside the building last night. At first I thought they may have been reflections and couldn’t tell if my eyes were fooling me or not… but they definitely look as though they were coming from inside the building.

 

 

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The Beacon's bigger brother

58 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said:

 

The Beacon's bigger brother

That thing’s going to be like a 600-foot lightbulb when it’s all lit up. 

Wish they had it lit up by now. Downtown looked great last night when they would show it during the game. Everything was lit up nicely, then you had SW sitting there looking all eerie lol

29 minutes ago, ASPhotoman said:

Wish they had it lit up by now. Downtown looked great last night when they would show it during the game. Everything was lit up nicely, then you had SW sitting there looking all eerie lol

There were enough lights to make its presence in those panoramic shots last night during the game. I saw only  the cutout sections lit and maybe a row at the top. But Sherwin Williams missed a major chance for free advertising as these TNF games bring the works compared to regular network games - so many cameras and we heard this morning NFL Films chise this game to film for some purposes. They hit the jackpot with what both teams and the Christmas-like weather images provided- not to mention showing the entire NFL and Jimmy our fans are the most loyal and don’t eff with us again.

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If the Browns move to Brook Park, the panoramic shots won't be as nice.  ☹️

2 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said:

If the Browns move to Brook Park, the panoramic shots won't be as nice.  ☹️

They can instead show the burgeoning Brookpark Road panorama of hourly hotels and adult entertainment. 

Not the greatest photos, but from the game last night

 

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1 hour ago, GISguy said:

Not the greatest photos, but from the game last night

 

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Nice crowd pic but West 3rd needs an upgrade.Hope the Warehouse district skyline changing tower comes soon to enliven this area. Until then these  buildings should all be lit otherwise this gives a Game Of Thrones nightwaker vibe:

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I'm not sure I want to see a tall tower in the warehouse district.  I would prefer buildings similar to the height and design of the existing buildings.

2 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said:

I'm not sure I want to see a tall tower in the warehouse district.  I would prefer buildings similar to the height and design of the existing buildings.

Agreed -- I'd rather fill all the Warehouse District parking lots with 6-8 story mid-rise buildings than just one more tower.  If we were down to just one lot, then yeah, maybe a tower would make more sense.  But we have a sea of parking to fill.

Something like Weston's proposal for the warehouse district:

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48 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said:

Something like Weston's proposal for the warehouse district:

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If it’s Weston I wonder if their joint venture proposal from 2020 that KJP reported is moving to the front burner. 

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1 hour ago, Willo said:

If it’s Weston I wonder if their joint venture proposal from 2020 that KJP reported is moving to the front burner. 

 

 

 

Weston's getting away from residential development. Not because it's a bad market but because the warehouse/data center/chip-making market is so much better and they want to focus on it.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

2 hours ago, KJP said:

 

Weston's getting away from residential development. Not because it's a bad market but because the warehouse/data center/chip-making market is so much better and they want to focus on it.

Thanks for the update.
Still standing by for more details on who is proposing two separate Skyline Changing projects tick tock tick tock. …

1 hour ago, MayDay said:

Found an old flash drive, pics are from around 2006-2007. I need to get back up to the Terminal Tower observation deck now that the signage has been installed. 

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On to the next one! 

 

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On 11/22/2024 at 12:19 PM, LibertyBlvd said:

I'm not sure I want to see a tall tower in the warehouse district.  I would prefer buildings similar to the height and design of the existing buildings.

Agreed. Except i’d like to see a multi-building development that steps up from shorter buildings on West 6th and also on St Clair Ave to taller towers as they approach Public Square.

@MayDay  you need to preface photos like this with a trigger warning.  Sheesh, I can't look at these without great distress.

5 hours ago, MayDay said:

Found an old flash drive, pics are from around 2006-2007. 

 

6 hours ago, DO_Summers said:

@MayDay  you need to preface photos like this with a trigger warning.  Sheesh, I can't look at these without great distress.

 

 

I like how there are more people parked on the street than the block-sized surface lots 😂

On 11/22/2024 at 9:38 AM, LibertyBlvd said:

If the Browns move to Brook Park, the panoramic shots won't be as nice.  ☹️

They always show the main cities in the panoramic shots. 

On 11/22/2024 at 5:20 PM, KJP said:

 

Weston's getting away from residential development. Not because it's a bad market but because the warehouse/data center/chip-making market is so much better and they want to focus on it.

Follow- up:  So, Did Weston since sell or option all of that land they controlled?  Any records filed?  That land had to be of some interest to many given its proximity to the paint company HQ.

I would personally take this with a grain of salt, as the beers were flowing, but I was out for the Buckeyes game yesterday and met a guy who works for Independence Excavating and literally drilled the holes for the caissons for this tower. He said Sherwin-Williams is currently accepting bids to drill for a second tower. 

 

Other than that, super cool dude. I have his contact info, from Parma as well, and he had a lot of cool stories about working on that job. I was definitely skeptical at first but he backed it up with knowledge that only someone who worked it would know.

P.S. he said ironworkers are insane lol

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2 hours ago, Willo said:

Follow- up:  So, Did Weston since sell or option all of that land they controlled?  Any records filed?  That land had to be of some interest to many given its proximity to the paint company HQ.

 

The properties are available but not being marketed. They've also been trying to sell the Standard Building but with no takers yet.

 

5 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said:

I would personally take this with a grain of salt, as the beers were flowing, but I was out for the Buckeyes game yesterday and met a guy who works for Independence Excavating and literally drilled the holes for the caissons for this tower. He said Sherwin-Williams is currently accepting bids to drill for a second tower. 

 

 

Interesting. They wouldn't be accepting bids yet, but they might be soliciting input from experts on projected costs and timelines for major components of a second tower to help shape their planning. They were doing the same thing in the fall of 2018, one year before they admitted they were seeking a new HQ.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 11/22/2024 at 7:23 PM, Willo said:

Still standing by for more details on who is proposing two separate Skyline Changing projects tick tock tick tock.

Don't hold your breath.

4 hours ago, GREGinPARMA said:

P.S. he said ironworkers are insane lol

You'd have to be insane to do that.

Quick pic of the shed yesterday.

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8 hours ago, ASPhotoman said:

Quick pic of the shed yesterday.

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Looking good from this angle - lots of needed light and life facing the Square!

Curious how much of Fahrenheit is blocked by the paint shack? Seems like the shack swallowed it whole. They may need to add some directional signage that could be seen above the paint shack - maybe something like this with Fahrenheit branding, that way it will be also be captured in photos of the hq and shack

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4 minutes ago, Willo said:

Looking good from this angle - lots of needed light and life facing the Square!

Curious how much of Fahrenheit is blocked by the paint shack? Seems like the shack swallowed it whole. They may need to add some directional signage that could be seen above the paint shack - maybe something like this with Fahrenheit branding, that way it will be also be captured in photos of the hq and shack

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Anyone know how long John Q Steakhouse (Previous occupant of Fahrenheit space) was there for? Was it there prior to the demolition of the buildings that used to stand on Public Square prior to their demolition to make way for the Future Ameritrust tower?

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@Mov2Ohio Found this from a quick Google search....

 

The space originally opened in 1959 as a lynchpin in the once flourishing Stouffers Restaurants chain. The former John Q's Public Bar & Grille became John Q's in 1987.

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So the answer is yes, it was there as John Q's Steakhouse for a couple of years (and longer in its prior incarnation) when the two Public Square buildings were demo'd for the Ameritrust Tower.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

1 hour ago, Mov2Ohio said:

 

 

Anyone know how long John Q Steakhouse (Previous occupant of Fahrenheit space) was there for? Was it there prior to the demolition of the buildings that used to stand on Public Square prior to their demolition to make way for the Future Ameritrust tower?

Probably a lot more foot and car traffic on all sides of two historic structures next the 55 public square restaurant. I hope the shack at least offers a bright face of glass and not a solid wall.

One thing I was curious about; Does anyone know if they're supposed to be redoing the sidewalks and replacing those street lights in front of the shack? They're all a bit run down.

3 hours ago, MayDay said:

Thank you. At least the front half has sidewalk level glass while the back half with the air vents/beige wall is not too attractive. Hopefully the graffiti artists who are likely to tag that sidewalk level beige wall will use Sherwin Williams/Valspar paints.
Fahrenheit will definitely need to add some destination signage and lighting. At least the shortened Frankfort avenue will allow easy drive up valet parking for restaurant patrons or visitors to residents of the 55 building. 
Speaking of 55, I see they wisely engaged Ukrainian design firm Dion Art (Cleveland office) for their place making art:

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Per news story:

A  tetradecahedron (14-sided polygon) with the 55 emblem greets residents and visitors outside K&D Group's recently renovated 55 Public Square, which now offers more than 200 apartments.

 

Fahrenheit should reach out to Dion Art for a creative solution:

 

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for that matter so should the planners at the Lakefront, Riverfront, Peninsula, Irishtown Bend Park…see Dion’s website they go amazing work.

On 11/26/2024 at 5:36 AM, MayDay said:

 

do i dare say this? but its not at all as bad as i thought it would be. 😂

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Wonder what their plan would be for those 100+ cars parking on that lot. Wasn't it mentioned way upthread they are regretting not making the garage bigger?

2 hours ago, GREGinPARMA said:

Wonder what their plan would be for those 100+ cars parking on that lot. Wasn't it mentioned way upthread they are regretting not making the garage bigger?

Garage as part of phase 2? I could see them deciding it's worth it to incorporate an underground garage into the second tower if the scale is large enough and it becomes an issue with phase 1 once open.

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It was a little gloomy yesterday.

 

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I'm hearing it's now going to be June when work here is done.

20 minutes ago, Mov2Ohio said:

I'm hearing it's now going to be June when work here is done.

I work for S-W and we were told we're getting 6 months notice. We haven't gotten notice yet, so at a minimum, June.

12 minutes ago, HugeMilkshake said:

I work for S-W and we were told we're getting 6 months notice. We haven't gotten notice yet, so at a minimum, June.

That’s a lot of notice just to pack up your desk. Lol.

I thought I heard that not all will be moving because there is not enough room.  Is that correct?

30 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said:

I thought I heard that not all will be moving because there is not enough room.  Is that correct?

Employees left at the Landmark....

 

 

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Here's a hot item -- a SHW employee told me they will be working out of a shared office "until the second HQ tower is built."

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

8 minutes ago, KJP said:

Here's a hot item -- a SHW employee told me they will be working out of a shared office "until the second HQ tower is built."

This is going to sound incredibly sexist, but during my career, I had to share a temporary office with a young lady while our permanent office build out was being completed. It was for about six months. I thought I was gonna shoot myself.🥴

1 hour ago, KJP said:

Here's a hot item -- a SHW employee told me they will be working out of a shared office "until the second HQ tower is built."

Apparently they will be in that shared office for quite a while.

I don't know if they have space for everyone. And I have asked, and the official word is that there are no current plans for a second tower. I'm hoping they're just being conservative about it. 

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