January 3, 20205 yr Author On 1/3/2020 at 11:39 AM, Chazz Michael Michaels said: Does anyone know if SHW still has an annual sales / business conference? I thought I had read speculation that they were likely to announce the construction of a new world headquarters at their annual business meeting which was in the Jan/Feb timeframe pre-Valspar. Perhaps, if they are holding a similar conference in 2020, the announcement would be made at the meeting this go'round? Yes. SHW's Performance Coatings Group Sales Meeting 2020 will probably be held at the place where they normally hold it, at Gaylord Palms Resort & Convention Center, which is huge. I'm told that we shouldn't expect announcement at the Jan. 30 announcement. Edited January 9, 20205 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 3, 20205 yr As a current Performance Coatings Group employee at Downtown HQ, there has been no communication to employees. Will let you guys know as soon as I hear anything. The only mention of it recently has been others joking about having an updated space here downtown compared to our current space which is........
January 9, 20205 yr Author ? ? ? ? OK, here we go, people!! A SHW announcement is "imminent." It's the news that all of Cleveland has been waiting for since at least summer. It's that subject that NEOtrans has been reporting the inside story for more than 14 months! And it includes a bit of a surprise. Stay tuned...... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 9, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, KJP said: ? ? ? ? OK, here we go, people!! A SHW announcement is "imminent." It's the news that all of Cleveland has been waiting for since at least summer. It's that subject that NEOtrans has been reporting the inside story for more than 14 months! And it includes a bit of a surprise. Stay tuned...... I love surprises!
January 9, 20205 yr Author 13 minutes ago, freefourur said: How soon is "imminent?" any hint on the surprise? As in, by the end of the month. But you don't have to wait that long. I will tell you all this afternoon. Writing the blog now. The surprise is the R&D site. It's a site that hasn't been mentioned by anyone during this whole process. And forget the building height for crying out loud. Think jobs, people. The most important part about any of this is the thousands of jobs and the spin-off development that will result. Back to writing.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 9, 20205 yr Whelp...I hear ya Ken and of course the most important news is that SHW remains based here. Then we benefit from any future growth. Sure that's more important than a building. I'm just thinking why can't we have it all - HQ and a skyline presence. Other cities seem to do it without even trying. Onward AND upward Cleveland.
January 9, 20205 yr Hoping it’s the triangle at Prospect & Superior or the crater at Huron & Ontario. This is like Christmas Eve! Edited January 9, 20205 yr by marty15
January 9, 20205 yr Just please something near a rapid station, I don't want to start driving to work.
January 9, 20205 yr Don't worry about typos on the first draft! You have an army of editors at the ready ?
January 9, 20205 yr Author 1 minute ago, GISguy said: I have to make a map, too! I'm working, I'm working! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 9, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, WindyBuckeye said: Midtown or Scranton are my guesses These SW insiders assured me it's Scranton.
January 9, 20205 yr Just now, KJP said: I have to make a map, too! I'm working, I'm working! I'm continually refreshing and killing my productivity. You need to hurry so I can get back to work.
January 9, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, freefourur said: I'm continually refreshing and killing my productivity. You need to hurry so I can get back to work. Ha! Me too! @KJP is slowing down productivity in the Land right now! Lol
January 9, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, surfohio said: These SW insiders assured me it's Scranton. You just won lmao
January 9, 20205 yr I haven't been this distracted hitting F5 since the day the state started releasing the PE exam results. Killing the work productivity!
January 9, 20205 yr Ken, did you happen to also get this rendering, maybe in a cryptic email? ? clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 9, 20205 yr Hopefully this gets picked up by cleveland.com in one of those "Cleveland blogger reports..." type deals. They've done it before. Then, it can start filtering its way through the media ecosystem and get Cleveland some early, positive pub around the country. What a way to start the decade!
January 9, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, musky said: (◎_◎;) Quiet, Powerpuff. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 9, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, PittsburgoDelendaEst said: Okay, so not Atlanta, Dallas, or Charlotte then either. I guess 'noted site selection consultant' John Boyd was wrong on this one, folks. We should all email him after the announcement and thanks for the hot tip!
January 9, 20205 yr http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/01/sherwin-williams-picks-cleveland-sites.html
January 9, 20205 yr Author THURSDAY, JANUARY 9, 2020 Sherwin-Williams picks Cleveland sites for HQ, R&D facilities; announcement "imminent" According to multiple sources, Sherwin-Williams (SHW) has made its decision on where to build its billion-dollar new headquarters buildings and new research & development facilities. The same sources, who spoke off the record because they were not authorized to speak publicly yet, said the announcement of the locations will be made before the end of this month. SHW will consolidate up to 6,000 office and research jobs from around Greater Cleveland and even around the country to downtown Cleveland. SHW currently has 3,500 full-time employees downtown already. The consolidation of up to another 2,500 jobs here will be a huge boon to downtown and surrounding areas. The sites that the fast-growing global coatings firm has chosen for its HQ+R&D is both a surprise and not a surprise. The unsurprising part is that SHW's 1.45 million square feet HQ will be built on the parking lots owned by the Jacobs and Weston groups on the west side of Public Square. The site for the 350,000-square-foot R&D facility is a surprise, however -- on Scranton Peninsula across the Cuyahoga River from SHW's existing John G. Breen Technology Center and SHW's existing HQ in the Landmark Building. MORE https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/01/sherwin-williams-picks-cleveland-sites.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 9, 20205 yr ^That feels like a “best of both worlds” kind of thing to me! And I hope it has the bridge from the riverfront convention center renderings. Edited January 9, 20205 yr by Boomerang_Brian Added bridge comment When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
January 9, 20205 yr Author 2 minutes ago, KJP said: THURSDAY, JANUARY 9, 2020 Sherwin-Williams picks Cleveland sites for HQ, R&D facilities; announcement "imminent" According to multiple sources, Sherwin-Williams (SHW) has made its decision on where to build its billion-dollar new headquarters buildings and new research & development facilities. The same sources, who spoke off the record because they were not authorized to speak publicly yet, said the announcement of the locations will be made before the end of this month. SHW will consolidate up to 6,000 office and research jobs from around Greater Cleveland and even around the country to downtown Cleveland. SHW currently has 3,500 full-time employees downtown already. The consolidation of up to another 2,500 jobs here will be a huge boon to downtown and surrounding areas. The sites that the fast-growing global coatings firm has chosen for its HQ+R&D is both a surprise and not a surprise. The unsurprising part is that SHW's 1.45 million square feet HQ will be built on the parking lots owned by the Jacobs and Weston groups on the west side of Public Square. The site for the 350,000-square-foot R&D facility is a surprise, however -- on Scranton Peninsula across the Cuyahoga River from SHW's existing John G. Breen Technology Center and SHW's existing HQ in the Landmark Building. MORE https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/01/sherwin-williams-picks-cleveland-sites.html I hate when an article gets posted and it's right at the bottom of a page! Ugh! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 9, 20205 yr Literally I think this is the best possible outcome. Scranton about to blow up and the warehouse district lots. Canal basin park coming soon. Wow!!!’
January 9, 20205 yr Thank goodness those hideous parking lots will soon be gone forever! Thanks @KJP!
January 9, 20205 yr This is such great news. As much as I'd really enjoy seeing a new tall tower on public square, after visiting Nashville last week, I'd be more than happy with a 30-40 story office building on the Jacobs lot. I love this plan because it will mean three things... 1. A new HQ tower on Public square 2. Density on WH District lots (with hopefully spin-off development in the future) 3. A huge boost to Scranton getting developed. You can't ask for much more.
January 9, 20205 yr For reference should we expect something the size of One Cleveland Center or Tower at Erieview? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
January 9, 20205 yr Congrats Cleveland friends! This is great news and super exciting. I can't wait to see some renderings.
January 9, 20205 yr Great news for Cleveland all around, but I have to admit to being *slightly* disappointed that the tallest building in the project will "only" be 30 stories. But if the 1.45M s.f. HQ is going to be spread out over P.S. and the Weston lot, that has to mean there will be several other buildings in the same range. As many have said, our skyline is skewed towards the east and needs balancing. It sounds like this project will do that. Hopefully, everything meshes well and the TT, Key Tower, and 200 PS are augmented by the nearby density.
January 9, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, ytown2ctown said: For reference should we expect something the size of One Cleveland Center or Tower at Erieview? Sorry if this is a dumb question. OCC is 30 floors and Erieview is 40, I believe
January 9, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, ytown2ctown said: For reference should we expect something the size of One Cleveland Center or Tower at Erieview? Sorry if this is a dumb question. One Cleveland Center is 31 stories so probably that aka 450 feet-ish. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 9, 20205 yr Author 1 minute ago, mack34 said: The Lumen is 34 stories and is just short of 400 feet. But that's residential which has lower ceiling heights than commercial. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 9, 20205 yr With several thousand more people working downtown, this project will be a catalyst for more residential development. Imagine several tall apartment or condominium towers, like Lumen. Critical mass here we come!
January 9, 20205 yr And think of all of that space SHW is leaving. Office space for numerous new companies or apartments for hundreds of new residents. And prime riverfront land for new development.
January 9, 20205 yr Really pleased if this is the outcome. A 30 story tower PLUS additional infill on those lots PLUS activation of essentially empty land on the river PLUS the necessary connections between them and the additional development that could create is a win win win. Density over height for me. I’m perfectly happy with Key, TT and 200PS being our big three. They nicely balance the top of the skyline. This will do wonders to start filling in the gaps. Couldn’t be happier!
January 9, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, tykaps said: And think of all of that space SHW is leaving. Office space for numerous new companies or apartments for hundreds of new residents. And prime riverfront land for new development. And you can't get any closer to the Rapid.
January 9, 20205 yr 31 minutes ago, freefourur said: It seems odd to move their research center across the river when they already own some land along the river. I wouldn't be surprised if they sell it to the county for the new justice center. I would be OK with the new justice center there. I was worried that it might end up on the Jacobs lot.
January 9, 20205 yr Just for sh!ts and giggles, I pulled a few office towers that have been somewhat recently built in the range of 30ish floors. I'm not too worried about our skyline ? Gem Tower, NYC - built 2013 - 501 ft./35 floors 510 Madison, NYC - built 2010 - 452 ft./31 floors Pinnacle at Symphony Place, Nashville -- built 2010 - 417 ft./29 floors clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 9, 20205 yr 35 minutes ago, Down_with_Ctown said: Great news for Cleveland all around, but I have to admit to being *slightly* disappointed that the tallest building in the project will "only" be 30 stories. But if the 1.45M s.f. HQ is going to be spread out over P.S. and the Weston lot, that has to mean there will be several other buildings in the same range. As many have said, our skyline is skewed towards the east and needs balancing. It sounds like this project will do that. Hopefully, everything meshes well and the TT, Key Tower, and 200 PS are augmented by the nearby density. A couple smaller buildings leading up to the tallest on the square will look awesome from the west. This is great news; bring on the renderings!
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