October 27, 20213 yr Author OK, I can call it an I beam. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 27, 20213 yr Nice. It seems SHW is maybe trying to get out ahead of this looming "hyper-inflation".
October 28, 20213 yr Author 19 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said: Dang, I wanna learn more about test pit 17. What's that? TP17 appears to be about 30 feet west of West 3rd Street and about 30 feet north of Superior. Here's a couple more images from the geotechnical report that might be of interest. This is what's below the Jacobs Lot.... And here are sketches of what was found in TP17 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 28, 20213 yr that looks like the kind of metal pilings they use to shore up the foundation perimeter. is that correct?
October 28, 20213 yr 40 minutes ago, mrnyc said: that looks like the kind of metal pilings they use to shore up the foundation perimeter. is that correct? Yep. Wide flanges, the H shape beams where the flanges, the shorter top and bottom portion, don't taper, are most commonly used for site work, retaining, etc. These are almost definitely to form a perimeter wall to begin digging out the site.
October 28, 20213 yr 43 minutes ago, mrnyc said: that looks like the kind of metal pilings they use to shore up the foundation perimeter. is that correct? In other words, 1 hour ago, KJP said: TP17 appears to be about 30 feet west of West 3rd Street and about 30 feet north of Superior. Here's a couple more images from the geotechnical report that might be of interest. This is what's below the Jacobs Lot.... And here are sketches of what was found in TP17 Do we know what the brickwork used to be?
October 28, 20213 yr Author 2 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said: In other words, Do we know what the brickwork used to be? I haven't checked a Sanborn map yet. Been slammed with news. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 28, 20213 yr I haven't checked a Sanborn map yet. Been slammed with news.Slammed with news huh?Magellan? nuCLEus? City Club? Cliffs? Give me a crumb Ken!!! [emoji31]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
October 28, 20213 yr Author 1 hour ago, GREGinPARMA said: Slammed with news huh? Magellan? nuCLEus? City Club? Cliffs? Give me a crumb Ken!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Check the site. I've posted three articles in the last two days and have at least one more to write. That's probably going to have wait until tomorrow. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 29, 20213 yr Seems they updated the schematic submission presentation on their website with some more details and new model views..
October 29, 20213 yr When these kind of updated renderings are made public, do they usually include signage and/or lighting on the building or would that be something that comes later?
October 29, 20213 yr Author https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/bza/agenda/2021/crr11-15-2021.pdf BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS 601 Lakeside Avenue, Room 516 Cleveland, Ohio 44114-1071 https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/bza/cpc.html 216.664.2580 NOVEMBER 15, 2021 9:30 Calendar No. 21-170: 1400 W. 3rd Street Ward 3 Kerry McCormack 46 Notices The Sherwin-Williams Company, owner, proposes to erect a 4-story parking structure and surface parking lot in a Limited Retail Business District and an Urban Core Overlay District and a ‘9’ Height District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances: 1. Section 348.05(d)(2) which states that the maximum setback permitted in Urban Core Overlay District for principal and secondary street frontages is 3 feet where a setback of 4 feet and 7 inches on principal street frontage (West 3rd St.) is proposed; 83’3’ and 119’9” on secondary street frontages are proposed. 2. Section 348.05(d)(5)(B) which states that the liner building or facade along principal and secondary street frontages, that do not appear as a parking structure, are required. 3. Section 348.05(d)(5)(C) where a secondary street frontage or alley abuts the property, no access is permitted on a principal street frontage where the appellant proposes street access from principal street frontage (West 3rd). 4. Section 341.02 states that the Approval of the City Planning Commission/Landmarks Commission is required. (Filed October 20, 2021) 9:30 Calendar No. 21-171: 1450 W. 3rd Street Ward 3 Kerry McCormack 46 Notices The Sherwin-Williams Company, owner, proposes to erect a 36-story office building and surface parking lot in a Limited Retail Business District and an Urban Core Overlay District and a ‘9’ Height District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances: 1. Section 348.05(d)(2) maximum setback permitted in Urban Core Overlay District for principal and secondary street frontage is 3 feet where the appellant is proposing setbacks of 5 feet and 11 inches on principal street frontage (West 3rd), and 219 feet on West 6th St., the secondary street frontage. Open parking lot is proposed on approximately 50% of buildout on Superior Avenue secondary street frontage. 2. Section 348.05(d)(5)(B) which states that liner buildings or facades along secondary street frontages are required. 3. Section 341.02: Approval of the City Planning Commission/Landmarks Commission is required. (Filed October 20, 2021) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 29, 20213 yr missing about 5 bus shelters in the renderings. I thought they said they would extend the sidewalk to the building when they discussed the setback variance in the first meeting. there's a strip of grass along superior
October 29, 20213 yr hmm, ok good -- the glass seems to be promoted as quality -- and that is a very good thing. i hope folks will be sure to check it out where ever they display the initial panel samples, or at least on site before they are installed -- and take pics for us. just the glass itself can really make or break something major like this i tell ya!
November 1, 20213 yr Author More permit applications are coming through B&H's portal. This time they're for the Pavilion on the Jacobs Lot as well as the Tower. Both applications say: "The phase of this work is limited to erosion and sediment controls, limited site demolition, and general excavation." "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 3, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, Whipjacka said: Jacob's lot is closed I've been waiting for this post for 30 years!
November 3, 20213 yr This time it’s going down for real. Love the design or hate it - and we’ve got opinions on both sides - it feels damn good to know we’re actually building a new, true skyscraper. The Cleveland skyline is about to change in an undeniable way for all to see. SW has made a huge commitment to its home town. Their 616’ tower will be a symbol of a city that is still vital - and one that has great expectations for itself once again.
November 3, 20213 yr 14 hours ago, Cleburger said: I've been waiting for this post for 30 years! I remember when the buildings were demolished! Finally, new construction in the heart of the city. There is feeling of a "new" Cleveland emerging! Today we start the molting process.
November 4, 20213 yr 9 hours ago, MyTwoSense said: I remember when the buildings were demolished! Finally, new construction in the heart of the city. There is feeling of a "new" Cleveland emerging! Today we start the molting process. I was in highschool or maybe my freshman year of CSU. I used to walk over to the square to check on the progress, then also the progress of the then "Society Center" rising above public square. It was a big deal that it was going to be taller than Terminal Tower.
November 4, 20213 yr 10 hours ago, Cleburger said: I was in highschool or maybe my freshman year of CSU. I used to walk over to the square to check on the progress, then also the progress of the then "Society Center" rising above public square. It was a big deal that it was going to be taller than Terminal Tower. Me too! I can remember walking toward the front doors of Terminal Tower onto Public Square, and I'd stop in such a way that I could only see the finished facade portion of Society Center through the glass — and imagine what it'd be like to have the whole thing completed. 😄
November 4, 20213 yr omg i have to pinch myself to make sure i am still alive and this isn't a cruel dream! 😂
November 4, 20213 yr The Lot Split and Consolidation Plat came through the county on 10/25. Within this or next week, the GIS should reflect the one parcel...and we all know it isn't official until it's in the GIS 😆 AFN: 202110260284 Edited November 4, 20213 yr by GISguy
November 4, 20213 yr 8 minutes ago, mrnyc said: omg i have to pinch myself to make sure i am still alive and this isn't a cruel dream! 😂 Prep yourself for when the rare Cleveland Square burrowing horned toad is discovered during the digging and the whole project gets shutdown.
November 4, 20213 yr 3 hours ago, Paul in Cleveland said: Me too! I can remember walking toward the front doors of Terminal Tower onto Public Square, and I'd stop in such a way that I could only see the finished facade portion of Society Center through the glass — and imagine what it'd be like to have the whole thing completed. 😄 In the late 80's to maybe 1990 or so i hadn't been to Cleveland in 2 or three years. I flew in one Saturday morning and took the rapid downtown to my hotel. When i got off at tower city i couldnt beleive what i was seeing. On top of that a Neiman Marcus was comming...then i opened the door and looked up across the square to the almost completed society bank tower. I was in awe. I honestly didnt know that all of this was taking place. It was amazing
November 4, 20213 yr Yes, it was amazing. A lot was happening in downtown Cleveland in the late 80s to mid 90s. Galleria and Tower City opened. Society/Key Tower was built (the tallest building between NY and Chicago at the time). Jacobs Field and Gund Arena were built (resulting in the Cavs, hockey and other arena events coming back downtown). Several new hotels opened. The Flats and Warehouse District were booming. The Playhouse Square theaters were coming back to life. The RTA Waterfront line opened. Cleveland was on a roll. And there could have been another tall tower built during that timeframe, but the Society-AmeriTrust merger killed it. Let's hope the Sherwin-Williams project will get things going again downtown. Edited November 4, 20213 yr by LibertyBlvd
November 4, 20213 yr Yea i also saw the Galleria for the first time that weekend. Had a lunch there. It was such a wonderful weekend seeing all of that at one time. And most of it was in full or almost full operation. There were crowds downtown again. People out and about - there for the sake of being there. Well this is all off-topic.
November 4, 20213 yr On 11/2/2021 at 9:33 PM, Whipjacka said: Jacob's lot is closed I have to fly to CLE just to see this in person! As many have said.....30+ years!!!
November 8, 20213 yr Ground Breaking ceremony Tuesday, Nov 16th at 3pm :-) this is exciting Edited November 8, 20213 yr by osu4brutus03
November 8, 20213 yr since sw hq is a mini-me version -- for comparison i see the texas tower in houston is about wrapping up: https://imgur.com/onzikEM https://imgur.com/9uPJgek
November 8, 20213 yr 45 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said: ^ How tall is that one? 735' -- from developer hines website: Hines and Ivanhoé Cambridge are developing Texas Tower, a new 47-story, one-million-square-foot office tower on the 800 block of Texas Avenue (the former site of the Houston Chronicle). The building will become an architectural presence in Houston’s skyline, and offer a radical new approach to lobby and common-area design and activation. Designed by Pelli Clarke Pelli, the project will be built to the highest standards that Hines has ever developed in Houston, including LEED® Platinum, WiredScore and WELL™ Building Standards. Texas Tower will feature unprecedented amenities in the vertically integrated campus, including: a dramatic lobby with cues from the hospitality sector; multiple food and beverage offerings; abundant spaces for networking; a full-service conference facility; public gardens on level 12; and a high-performance fitness center. Ten-foot, full-height windows will allow for an abundance of natural light across the 30,000-square-foot floor plates and a sophisticated underfloor HVAC system will put comfort choices in the hands of occupants. Protruding, cantilevered bays on each face of the floorplate project away from the building providing opportunities for dramatic internal stairs, atriums and communal spaces, as well as potential access to fresh air and outdoor green space. The tower will be placed diagonally on the site resulting in unique, more interesting view angles and a powerful civic presence. The unique site is at the confluence of the CBD, the Theatre District and the Historic District—Houston’s ‘main and main’ location for a lively place to live, work and play. The building’s desirable location leverages the myriad of restaurants, bars and entertainment venues, as well as an exploding residential population. Texas Tower is scheduled to open in late 2021. Edited November 8, 20213 yr by mrnyc
November 8, 20213 yr Wow thats really similar to the SW HQ, at first glance. Edited November 8, 20213 yr by CleveFan
November 8, 20213 yr Houston and Dallas have two of the highest vacancy rates, surprised they built this.
November 8, 20213 yr It's wild to me how many skyscrapers there are in Dallas and especially Houston and yet in my experience the street life in those two downtowns is dead and sterile.
November 8, 20213 yr Author 1 hour ago, osu4brutus03 said: Ground Breaking ceremony Tuesday, Nov 16th at 3pm :-) this is exciting Just catching up?? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 8, 20213 yr 15 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said: It's wild to me how many skyscrapers there are in Dallas and especially Houston and yet in my experience the street life in those two downtowns is dead and sterile. My one trip to Dallas was in early September. Every time I hit the street, and felt the 102 degree temperature, I went right back into the hotel. Luckily, my hotel had "Walt Garrison's Cowboy BBQ" as their restaurant, so I could indulge in the local cuisine.
November 8, 20213 yr Author 5 minutes ago, osu4brutus03 said: No came across a reminder Speaking of reminders..... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 8, 20213 yr Will this be a real groundbreaking with work starting immediately or a ceremonial groundbreaking where work starts down the road.
November 8, 20213 yr Author 33 minutes ago, osu4brutus03 said: What’s the location? Jacobs Lot.... Sherwin-Williams HQ groundbreaking date set https://neo-trans.blog/2021/10/13/sherwin-williams-hq-groundbreaking-date-set/ 8 minutes ago, simplythis said: Will this be a real groundbreaking with work starting immediately or a ceremonial groundbreaking where work starts down the road. Immediately.... Sherwin-Williams HQ construction materials start to arrive https://neo-trans.blog/2021/10/27/sherwin-williams-hq-construction-materials-start-to-arrive/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 9, 20213 yr 4 hours ago, mrclifton88 said: It's wild to me how many skyscrapers there are in Dallas and especially Houston and yet in my experience the street life in those two downtowns is dead and sterile. Im in Houston alot. Downtown has underground walkways and overhead walkways. Around Allen Centre there is alot of activity underground.
November 9, 20213 yr Looks like the Planning Commission/Landmarks meeting for final approval is November 30.
November 9, 20213 yr Author 5 minutes ago, Htsguy said: Looks like the Planning Commission/Landmarks meeting for final approval is November 30. Yep. That was set in July. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 9, 20213 yr 6 hours ago, mrnyc said: since sw hq is a mini-me version -- for comparison i see the texas tower in houston is about wrapping up: https://imgur.com/onzikEM https://imgur.com/9uPJgek I was all of two blocks from this tower when I read your post. I noticed that tower on the Uber ride into downtown Houston. Here’s some night pix. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
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