May 22, 20223 yr 13 hours ago, StapHanger said: I just hope I live long enough to see the welcome center get demolished and replaced with something that doesn't have a front lawn. CEO Morikis is only 56; you may have to wait a while. 😉 Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
May 22, 20223 yr Duke Energy Tower in Charlotte gives us a glimpse of what SHW Tower will look like. Though ours will be 60ft taller. Goes along with the BofA/Key Tower twinning. Edited May 22, 20223 yr by marty15
May 22, 20223 yr The Charlotte and Cleveland skylines are very similar - especially with this clone of SW - or is it the other way around?
May 22, 20223 yr I was in Charlotte only once about 5 years ago and was impressed with a few things. Plenty of high rise density. Downtown really only has one main road but l remember it being quite green, much greener than Cleveland. Plus the main drag was full of street level retail and it seemed every restaurant had big open fronts onto the street. 'Course it was summer in the South. I can't speak for the 'burbs but downtown had a very shiny and new feel to it. I also can't think of one reason why the place exists but...still, there it is.
May 23, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, CleveFan said: The Charlotte and Cleveland skylines are very similar - especially with this clone of SW - or is it the other way around? Yes, and that Bank of America tower with the crown on it was also designed by Pelli and completed around the same time as Key Tower. You can definitely see the resemblance.
May 23, 20223 yr 16 hours ago, cadmen said: I can't speak for the 'burbs but downtown had a very shiny and new feel to it. I assume there are not very many old buildings in downtown Charlotte. But we are digressing. Any estimate on when SHW tower will be going vertical?
May 23, 20223 yr Author 28 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said: Any estimate on when SHW tower will be going vertical? Checking.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 23, 20223 yr Author Julie Young, Vice President, Global Corporate Communications at Sherwin-Williams writes: "As with all construction projects of this size, exact dates for activities can be a challenge. What I can share is the tower crane is scheduled to start erection sometime in August. There will be a second crane for the garage but its timing is yet to be confirmed." "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 23, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: Julie Young, Vice President, Global Corporate Communications at Sherwin-Williams writes: "As with all construction projects of this size, exact dates for activities can be a challenge. What I can share is the tower crane is scheduled to start erection sometime in August. There will be a second crane for the garage but its timing is yet to be confirmed." After all your sleuthing I'm surprised they return your emails haha
May 24, 20223 yr Author 2 hours ago, GISguy said: After all your sleuthing I'm surprised they return your emails haha While SHW hasn't said this, others have said they're responsive because they wanted to get out in front of any rumors I might share. I've even had some developers call me and say they're planning such-and-such and have asked me to not write anything until they've secured the property, financing, etc. If they're honestly trying to improve the city with their investment and not trying to negatively exploit a situation, then I've honored those requests. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 26, 20223 yr On 5/23/2022 at 3:47 PM, KJP said: Julie Young, Vice President, Global Corporate Communications at Sherwin-Williams writes: "As with all construction projects of this size, exact dates for activities can be a challenge. What I can share is the tower crane is scheduled to start erection sometime in August. There will be a second crane for the garage but its timing is yet to be confirmed." So 3-4 tower cranes over Cleveland in the next 6 months to 1.5 years at least!
May 26, 20223 yr Author 37 minutes ago, Mov2Ohio said: So 3-4 tower cranes over Cleveland in the next 6 months to 1.5 years at least! You think City Club will have two cranes? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 26, 20223 yr 32 minutes ago, KJP said: You think City Club will have two cranes? What about library lofts?
May 26, 20223 yr 53 minutes ago, KJP said: You think City Club will have two cranes? I'm including the known University Circle jobs too. City Club will most likely only have one. I had forgotten about Library Lofts, but it likely will have one as well. I was thinking there MAY be overlap with the Artisan's cranes and the other projects downtown.
May 26, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, Mov2Ohio said: I'm including the known University Circle jobs too. City Club will most likely only have one. I had forgotten about Library Lofts, but it likely will have one as well. I was thinking there MAY be overlap with the Artisan's cranes and the other projects downtown. Ah, for some reason I read "Cleveland" and inferred "downtown." My bad. It's also possible the six-story, 300k+ Apex office building and parking deck about to start at MetroHealth will need a crane although I don't know if it will need a tower crane. Artisan: 1 crane but coming down by end of summer? SHW HQ: 2 cranes City Club: 1 crane Library Lofts: 1 crane Neuro building: 1-2 cranes Cole expansion: maybe 1 crane? Apex project: maybe 1 crane? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 26, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, KJP said: Ah, for some reason I read "Cleveland" and inferred "downtown." My bad. It's also possible the six-story, 300k+ Apex office building and parking deck about to start at MetroHealth will need a crane although I don't know if it will need a tower crane. Artisan: 1 crane but coming down by end of summer? SHW HQ: 2 cranes City Club: 1 crane Library Lofts: 1 crane Neuro building: 1-2 cranes Cole expansion: maybe 1 crane? Apex project: maybe 1 crane? Things like these extensive crane discussions are why friends and family think I am so weird when I excitedly relate to them about my participation in this forum 😉
May 26, 20223 yr Cuyahoga county courthouse, Bedrock? HBSE? Viaduct? Magellan? Does anyone think any of these break ground ?
May 27, 20223 yr Author 13 hours ago, Htsguy said: Things like these extensive crane discussions are why friends and family think I am so weird when I excitedly relate to them about my participation in this forum 😉 You're among friends here, sir. 35 minutes ago, simplythis said: Cuyahoga county courthouse, Bedrock? HBSE? Viaduct? Magellan? Does anyone think any of these break ground ? Maybe if they decide not to renovate/expand the existing JC, maybe in a couple of years, maybe in about 5 years, no, and not likely. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 27, 20223 yr Author The full SHW HQ presentation for June 3 is here: https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/assets/Sherwin-Williams-June 3-presentation.pdf "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 27, 20223 yr This is going to be such an awesome tour attraction. Just thinking about the foot traffic this project would bring is amazing.
May 27, 20223 yr Author 20 minutes ago, osu4brutus03 said: This is going to be such an awesome tour attraction. Just thinking about the foot traffic this project would bring is amazing. Why? There's no way for the public to interact with the building. It's a glassy fortress. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 27, 20223 yr 23 minutes ago, KJP said: Why? There's no way for the public to interact with the building. It's a glassy fortress. At least it’ll be surrounded by reactived buildings. 75 PS, 55 PS, Fahrenheit and it’s roof patio, Renaissance Hotel renovation, Rockefeller Bldg reno…… And their renders of Frankfort look decent and can hopefully lead to development surrounding it on its west end. Edited May 27, 20223 yr by marty15
May 27, 20223 yr using the frankfort wall for a chance to showcase public art turned into selling space to destination cleveland for an ad campaign pretty quickly
May 27, 20223 yr The added lighting on top is a big improvement at least, I think visually it will have a big impact even if the street level leaves much to be desired. I will say I am a fan of the way-finding designed to look like paint samples... clever, colorful and playful.
May 27, 20223 yr The project is still an asset to the city, but one of the big urbanist benefits was supposed to be eating up the surface parking lots in the middle of the city. The current site plan shows it still leaves a lot of asphalt. Hopefully the hypothetical second tower comes to fruition.
May 27, 20223 yr ^ Right. Hopefully, the parcels north of Frankfort will be developed soon after the completion of the SHW HQ. As for the second tower, who knows if or when that will happen. That parcel could be surface parking for a long time. Edited May 27, 20223 yr by LibertyBlvd
May 27, 20223 yr they're only removing 2/5 of the parking space. it'd be so nice if they build out sooner rather than later
May 27, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, KJP said: The full SHW HQ presentation for June 3 is here: https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/assets/Sherwin-Williams-June 3-presentation.pdf I think I like the 'Sign Family Option 2' in here, kind of cheesy but also unique - incorporating paint swatches into their signage vs generic signage. Idk how it will age but idk, seems pretty unique branding opportunity. PS - didn't mean to steal @mrclifton88's thunder upthread! Glad we're in agreement haha Edited May 27, 20223 yr by GISguy
May 27, 20223 yr I also really like the color garden and color walk! As far as the trees, a quick search shows mature heights as Frontier Elm 30'-40', Princeton Sentry Ginkgo 40'-50', Street Keeper Honey locust 45', and Sour Gum 30'-50'
May 27, 20223 yr This may be a dumb question but is SHW planting and maintaining the "gardens" or the city? I think you all get my drift on this one.
May 27, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, mrclifton88 said: I will say I am a fan of the way-finding designed to look like paint samples... clever, colorful and playful. Agree. I am pleasantly surprised they did that.
May 27, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, mrclifton88 said: The added lighting on top is a big improvement at least, I think visually it will have a big impact even if the street level leaves much to be desired. Agreed! Big improvement on the lighting! That top will be much more a part of the night skyline now. Can’t wait for this baby to be built! Edited May 27, 20223 yr by CleveFan
May 27, 20223 yr The top of the building looks like an angled paintbrush. Edited May 27, 20223 yr by dski44
May 27, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, dski44 said: The top of the building looks like an angled paintbrush. ooo good catch
May 27, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, dski44 said: The top of the building looks like an angled paintbrush. That’s dope I love it
May 27, 20223 yr I like that they've added the LED strips at the tip. Will make it very visible from a distance and add positively to the skyline for those coming into town, especially since a lot of the lighting our downtown towers used to display at night doesn't get turned on anymore.
May 27, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, mrclifton88 said: The added lighting on top is a big improvement at least, I think visually it will have a big impact even if the street level leaves much to be desired. I will say I am a fan of the way-finding designed to look like paint samples... clever, colorful and playful. Being in the design industry and having worked on a few wayfinding projects, I would have KILLED to have such a volleyball-style "set and spike" opportunity. 🙂 clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
May 27, 20223 yr I apologize if this has been addressed earlier in the thread, but are they designing the parking garage so that additional office space could be built on top of it in the future?
May 27, 20223 yr Author 43 minutes ago, 3231 said: I apologize if this has been addressed earlier in the thread, but are they designing the parking garage so that additional office space could be built on top of it in the future? @3231 No, I don't believe they are. I seem to recall asking that of the development team. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 27, 20223 yr Author Not a lot new in this for you UO insiders, but there's a few nuggets.... Sherwin-Williams HQ to rise in August By Ken Prendergast / May 27, 2022 Although the new Sherwin-Williams (SHW) headquarters has been under construction since Nov. 29, 2021, the only evidence of it that passersby could see are several mobile cranes making their way around the site. That’s going to continue to be the case for another two months, according to SHW officials. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/05/27/sherwin-williams-hq-to-rise-in-august/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 27, 20223 yr [mention=155]3231[/mention] No, I don't believe they are. I seem to recall asking that of the development team.Right, I remember the commission heavily suggesting the development team look into it, I remember the head from the sherwin williams immediately shooting it down but after some back and forth was slightly convinced to look into it. I’m guessing they ended up ignoring the feedback even though the commission suggested it wouldn’t be much added work. Personably didn’t care for the SW person heading the project, seemed completely out of his element and didn’t represent the company well.
May 27, 20223 yr At least that big crane will be on the scene as The 22 Browns season gets underway - that should be a good look.
May 27, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, BoomerangCleRes said: Right, I remember the commission heavily suggesting the development team look into it, I remember the head from the sherwin williams immediately shooting it down but after some back and forth was slightly convinced to look into it. I’m guessing they ended up ignoring the feedback even though the commission suggested it wouldn’t be much added work. Personably didn’t care for the SW person heading the project, seemed completely out of his element and didn’t represent the company well. Pretty sure the person you're thinking of was from the design team, I had the same reaction though. Not a pleasant person at all.
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