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I'd rather not see high rises surrounding SHW.  But something like this would be nice:

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7 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said:

I'd rather not see high rises surrounding SHW.  But something like this would be nice:

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I agree with you, but it's funny - imo low rise density builds volume to a skyline pretty well also. 

It’s rising :-) 

4 hours ago, osu4brutus03 said:

It’s rising :-) 

I'd call that vertical movement!

 

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It looks like they might be starting on "the shack". 

 

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How did that sneak under UO radar? They need to get that cam up.

12 hours ago, Mendo said:

How did that sneak under UO radar? They need to get that cam up.

We’re waiting patiently 🤔🤔🤔

Good riddance to this lot! 👋🏻 

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I took a photo at the exact same location this morning!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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There's my morning photo from yesterday!

 

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Death of Public Square’s parking lot
By Ken Prendergast / September 1, 2022

 

Work crews this week began pulling up asphalt pavement from the parking lot on Public Square in downtown Cleveland, ending a three-decade use that some urbanists considered an embarrassment to the city. It is the last of three project component sites to see construction start for the new Sherwin-Williams (SHW) headquarters. Work is now occurring on each of the three sites simultaneously with a eye toward completion in late-2024.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2022/09/01/sherwin-williams-works-on-all-3-hq-building-sites/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Hopefully "the shack" won't become a new embarrassment.   😉

Does the expanded square footage mean that the tower is going to have larger floorplans and/or be taller than 616'? Or would that require additional review and approval?

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Changed the headline to something more eye-catching and interesting. Added a quote from Councilman McCormack.

 

28 minutes ago, brownsfan1226 said:

Does the expanded square footage mean that the tower is going to have larger floorplans and/or be taller than 616'? Or would that require additional review and approval?

 

It's still 616 feet tall. So it's probably slightly larger floor plates plus a little more ground-floor space.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Very satisfying to see those parking lots gone. It looks much better as simply a dirt pit.

3 hours ago, KJP said:

 

It's still 616 feet tall. So it's probably slightly larger floor plates plus a little more ground-floor space.

I wouldn’t have been mad about them squeezing the extra square footage into an extra 50 feet of verticality - but it’s all good right now! 

2 hours ago, w28th said:

Very satisfying to see those parking lots gone. It looks much better as simply a dirt pit.

That could've been Mayor Jackson's dirt bike track, but instead we get a skyscraper.

3 hours ago, cfdwarrior said:

That could've been Mayor Jackson's dirt bike track, but instead we get a skyscraper.

SHOTS FIRED!!!
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I wouldn’t have been mad about them squeezing the extra square footage into an extra 50 feet of verticality - but it’s all good right now! 

666 feet? No thank you [emoji23]


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It was technically above street level yesterday morning but now there’s no doubt about it. View from the 7th floor of 55ps. 

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does anyone know what that yellow lining is that they are putting around the base?

1 hour ago, GREGinPARMA said:

does anyone know what that yellow lining is that they are putting around the base?

Looks like a waterproofing sheet membrane or a capillary break.

First above-ground structure (in black) starts to appear.    I am thinking about posting a pic from this vantage point every Friday afternoon....

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Great perspective on the action and the former pit of embarrassment.  

Our long local nightmare is over.

27 minutes ago, gruver said:

First above-ground structure (in black) starts to appear.    I am thinking about posting a pic from this vantage point every Friday afternoon....

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Thank you - Please do - For those of us that do not work downtown we are definetely looking forward to these pictures

I miss that sweet garage at the corner of 9th and Superior 😂

^ now that’s a very nice way for all to wish an un-fond farewell to the parking ocean.

 

and a big thank you to sherwin williams.

I wonder if they're setting up the formwork of the core for typical floors and how fast it will jump.  I saw somewhere that the average is 3-5 days a floor...

On 9/2/2022 at 2:17 PM, LibertyBlvd said:

Our long local nightmare is over.

I've been dreaming of this day for a long time now. Was it as good for you guys as it was for me? I don't even smoke & I need a cigarette...

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9/9/22 Update from Key Tower

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46 minutes ago, gruver said:

9/9/22 Update from Key Tower

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Do you mind me asking what floor you are on? Just to get a height perspective

SHW crane from Cleveland Public Library’s “observation deck” (9/10/22)

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It's crazy how much real estate this is consuming.

It really is. And why I said a while back that this project would be the most transformational to downtown since the Terminal Tower complex. Key no doubt has the height but there’s no contest on the overall footprint. Especially when that footprint was an abyss. 

2 hours ago, freethink said:

It's crazy how much real estate this is consuming.

Yes- and thank heavens for that. I think we all hated the Parking Lot District which survived for too long downtown. I’m glad to see it disappear.

10 hours ago, Oldmanladyluck said:

Yes- and thank heavens for that. I think we all hated the Parking Lot District which survived for too long downtown. I’m glad to see it disappear.

I hate to be Debbie Downer but currently at least the Parking Lot District has not "disappeared".  There is still that huge lot on the southeast corner of W9th and St. Clair plus multiple smaller but still pretty large surface lots throughout the District including the Justice Center lot on W3rd where the cancelled Magellan project was suppose to go.  Even the SHW project has not currently done away with huge swaths of surface parking on the property they own.  About a third of the property they own will still be parking in the "short term" including "temporary" (we will see) surface parking on Superior where the supposed Phase 2 will go as well as large frontages on W6th and St. Clair.  Board members keep hinting that these hot SHW properties will be developed soon but crickets as far as announcements to date.   We definitely still has a way to go.  Hopefully all gone in the next 10 years.

 

 

1 minute ago, Htsguy said:

I hate to be Debbie Downer but currently at least the Parking Lot District has not "disappeared".  There is still that huge lot on the southeast corner of W9th and St. Clair plus multiple smaller but still pretty large surface lots throughout the District including the Justice Center lot on W3rd where the cancelled Magellan project was suppose to go.  Even the SHW project has not currently done away with huge swaths of surface parking on the property they own.  About a third of the property they own will still be parking in the "short term" including "temporary" (we will see) surface parking on Superior where the supposed Phase 2 will go as well as large frontages on W6th and St. Clair.  Board members keep hinting that these hot SHW properties will be developed soon but crickets as far as announcements to date.   We definitely still has a way to go.  Hopefully all gone in the next 10 years.

 

 

IMO the new Justice Center will end up on one of these.   There is no way all the attorneys located in the current area are going to let it move very far.  

34 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

IMO the new Justice Center will end up on one of these.   There is no way all the attorneys located in the current area are going to let it move very far.  

I'd rather see the new Justice Center on the Bedrock site, closer to the new jail.

3 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said:

I'd rather see the new Justice Center on the Bedrock site, closer to the new jail.

How about in the pit? This could help to propel the conversion of the shoreway. Also, it will still be close to the old courthouse!

Sorry didn't mean to take this off-topic with the Justice Center.   Was more a statement about the sea of parking lots.   We should continue if necessary:  

 

60% of the SHW site is slated to be parking in the near term. hopefully they make good on their future development promises.

I assume the future development promise you mention is the phase 2 tower. I don't think they are planning to develop the remaining parcels along W 6th and St Clair.

How likely is it that there will be a phase 2 tower?  

2 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said:

I assume the future development promise you mention is the phase 2 tower. I don't think they are planning to develop the remaining parcels along W 6th and St Clair.

 

they said that they're planning to facilitate development on st Clair and w6

10 hours ago, Whipjacka said:

 

they said that they're planning to facilitate development on st Clair and w6

I certainly hope there is a team at SHW actively working towards facilitating the development of the vacant land on West 6th and St. Clair, probably the same people that were responsible for the tower project, but I see no visible evidence of this.  Hopefully things are happening behind the scenes.  I know there is still a long way to go with the actual tower project but it would seem that the SHW team at this point has to have handed off a lot of the heavy lifting to the construction experts they retained.  And even if they still have a lot going on with the tower, I would hope they are bright enough to walk and chew gum at the same time.

 

  I wonder if the motivation is there?  Throughout this process it seems like, maybe rightfully so as it is a public company, that SHW has been more concerned about what is good for the company rather than the city and the urban fabric.  However, even if that is the case, you would think that developing these parcels would be good for the company and the project as a whole.  Again, it has been suggested that things are happening behind the scenes but it would nice to even hear a minor rumor to give us some hope.  Nothing but crickets to date.

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