Have you ever seen one person crossing over the pedestrian bridge in Gordon Park over the East Shoreway?

 

Its not just about pedestrian access, it about integrating the city grid up to the shoreline park

Understood, but the railroad tracks are a bigger obstacle than the Shoreway, at least for the majority of the park from Clifton/Lake all the way to Westinghouse curve... 

 

On second thought, the Gordon Park bridge is a poor analogy.  There's nothing to connect to.  What's on the north side, some parking lots?  A handful of boat docks?  No beach, no playground, no concessions stands, no ball fields, no walking path...  all that bridge really does is connect some overflow parking

Traffic flow will always be an issue on a major commuter route... and barring substantial transit expansion, this will always be a major commuter route.  Why is it so important to put bikes in the same space as cars instead of adding a multipurpose path?  Why is it so important to "access the lake" via crosswalks instead of the tunnels we're already spending so much to renovate?  It seems like beneficial compromises are available here.  I strongly suggest we don't declare war on ODOT over this.  Also please keep in mind that there are adverse local interests as well, before you purport to speak for the entire community.

 

A lot of people living west of the shoreway do not want a boulevard conversion.  It is absolutely unfair for their interests to be disregarded to the extent we're reaching here.  This is not a Cleveland city street... it's a state highway and two federal highways combined.  It belongs to everyone.  It belongs to people in Westlake and Peoria too.  ODOT is not trying to halt progress, prevent cycling, isolate Lake Erie, or impinge upon Battery Park.  Claiming that they are sounds childish.  Refusing to compromise with your neighbors doesn't sound too cool either.  Surely we can work this out.       

 

With that in mind then perhaps the funding should be used to expand Route 2 and four lanes of higher speed traffic right through all the homes along Edgewater and The Gold Coast. Bulldoze the high rises and lake front homes so that the all important major traffic route be preserved. After all I-90 is so far away and the millions of dollars being spent on the bridges surely won't satisfy the masses.

327, you're right on target here, and there are thousands of people who feel and think the same way you do but have kept their mouths shut.

 

Access to Edgewater Park = pedestrian bridges. Problem solved. I've said this from day one. Pedestrian bridges like the ones they have over -- to use a totally random example, of course -- Lake Shore Drive in Chicago.

 

It's not just about lake front access it I about the development of and connecting of neighborhoods within the city.

 

 

 

 

 

 

     

 

 

With that in mind then perhaps the funding should be used to expand Route 2 and four lanes of higher speed traffic right through all the homes along Edgewater and The Gold Coast. Bulldoze the high rises and lake front homes so that the all important major traffic route be preserved. After all I-90 is so far away and the millions of dollars being spent on the bridges surely won't satisfy the masses.

 

Haha--I have thrown out similar ideas on other forums to get the same point across. 

 

OK Lakewood and Rocky River commuters, if you are worried about the last three minutes of your commute, how about we blow a 6 lane highway right through Lakewood and Rocky River to speed things up.  In fact, why don't we connect it all the way out to Westlake so I can get from my house in Cleveland to the new center of commerce at Crocker Park.  Why should I be inconvenienced?  And plus, it will help you having a 6 lane freeway right through YOUR town!

 

They never seem to have a response for that.... ;)

That argument isn't as strong as you're making it out to be.  Clifton is fronted by residential, while the shoreway portion is fronted by parks and heavy industry.  They aren't fungible.  Also, it's rational for commuter roads to be wider and faster near downtown, because traffic increases as you approach there and decreases as you get further out.  This phenomenon is observable and predictable.  Not just here but everywhere. 

 

The current arrangement makes logical sense, which is why it's there in the first place.  This brings us to the other problem.  A new freeway along Clifton isn't needed, it's desired by no one and would rightly be seen as a waste of money.  Lots of expense for minimal gain... which mirrors the concerns that many have about the boulevard conversion project.  Independent of the traffic issue is a less than favorable cost-benefit equation, during a period of relative scarcity.  Why couldn't we have sent buses of protestors to Cbus to ask for better mass transit funding instead?  Surely that irony is apparent.   

That argument isn't as strong as you're making it out to be.  Clifton is fronted by residential, while the shoreway portion is fronted by parks and heavy industry.  They aren't fungible.  Also, it's rational for commuter roads to be wider and faster near downtown, because traffic increases as you approach there and decreases as you get further out.  This phenomenon is observable and predictable.  Not just here but everywhere. 

 

The current arrangement makes logical sense, which is why it's there in the first place.  This brings us to the other problem.  A new freeway along Clifton isn't needed, it's desired by no one and would rightly be seen as a waste of money.  Lots of expense for minimal gain... which mirrors the concerns that many have about the boulevard conversion project.  Independent of the traffic issue is a less than favorable cost-benefit equation, during a period of relative scarcity.  Why couldn't we have sent buses of protestors to Cbus to ask for better mass transit funding instead?  Surely that irony is apparent.   

 

Agreed and I present it to them in those absurd terms to make the same point about the Shoreway.  It was designed for their parents to make the commute with double the traffic.  Today there are fewer than 30,000 cars a day using the route.  Why not tone it down for the good of the residents old and new who are trying to forge a neighborhood for the new century?

And as we look at that new century let's keep in mind that advances in technology make telecommuting a reasonable alternative for many jobs.  This too can and will decrease the number of people who need to utilize any roadway.

OK, why did residential grow up along Clifton? Because it was a low-speed road that was served by high-quality transit to downtown. It wasn't a very quick route road cars or streetcars/buses, as cars took the limited-access Bulkley Boulevard past Edgewater Park and then funneled into Detroit Avenue to crawl across the congested Detroit-Superior Bridge. Streetcars took an even slower route -- east on Clifton, then to Lake, then on Detroit. They didn't descend into the subway until West 28th.

 

Why are there parks and industry along the Shoreway? Because the Shoreway came last. It was built as a high-speed roadway atop Bulkley Boulevard that was a boulevard in name only through Edgewater Park and past the industries served by the New York Central RR on the bluff.

 

Turn the Shoreway into a low-speed road with intersections, transit stops (as originally planned) and biking/hiking paths, and you've created conditions favorable for residential to appear here, as it did along Clifton. The City of Cleveland's planners understand this very well. I don't understand why you're having such difficulty with this, 327. Perhaps it's because you're seeing this only from your perspective as a commuter?

 

BTW, I'm also a Lakewood-to-downtown commuter. Every good thing has a price, and I think adding a few minutes to my commute to promote development along my route is a price worth paying.

CLEVELAND, Ohio --

ODOT has earned a second heaping of scorn from Cleveland City Hall, this time over money delays for the West Shoreway project.

 

The Ohio Department of Transportation set off a tempest earlier this week with news that money for a second Inner Belt Bridge might not be available for 11 years.

Outrage burned anew after city officials realized that $30 million for converting the West Shoreway into a boulevard also was put on hold for more than a decade.

 

It's part of $50.2 million that City Hall officials, Mayor Frank Jackson included, believe ODOT had promised and would make available for the project's first phase.

Jackson said Wednesday that ODOT was "disingenuous" for working with the city recently to find money for a second phase of the project, but not telling officials that money to complete the first phase might not be available until 2026.

 

 

 

full story:  http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/01/anger_in_cleveland_city_hall_b.html#incart_hbx

This project is quickly becoming a fading glimmer of hope.  Zone's comments about it killing Battery Park are ridiculous - vast majority of residents buy without any knowledge of the Shoreway or the planned connection at 73rd so they won't even miss it not being built.  The mayor and councilman's plan for another bustrip to Columbus is silly too, who has time for all this

I'm sure ODOT will take their $100 Million and build plenty more sound walls, freeway information signs (completely inane and useless) and beautification projects in Columbus.   

yeah columbus is awful.  I believe Zone made that statement to try to put a dramatic spin on the situation and try to emphasize the need for the project.  I sure as heck didnt buy there because of that project and Im still on the fence if i support the project or not.

This project is quickly becoming a fading glimmer of hope.  Zone's comments about it killing Battery Park are ridiculous - vast majority of residents buy without any knowledge of the Shoreway or the planned connection at 73rd so they won't even miss it not being built.  The mayor and councilman's plan for another bustrip to Columbus is silly too, who has time for all this

 

the project will be completed, mark my words.

Anyone who says a successful housing development is suddenly threatened by road conditions that have existed all along should not be leading bus trips to ODOT.  They shouldn't even be talking to ODOT, because it does not make us sound particularly thoughtful. 

 

I still maintain that the best way to use 50 million in furtherance of residential is to spend it on residential.  And that transportation funds should be used to increase transportation, not to reduce it.  So adding a rail line, or at least talking about it, might make this idea more palatable.  West Shore Commuter Rail should be an integral part of the plan.  That way, neighbors who need to get to work aren't made out to be enemies of Battery Park.  That way the project adds value for everyone, rather than transferring benefit from Peter to Paul.

Anyone who says a successful housing development is suddenly threatened by road conditions that have existed all along should not be leading bus trips to ODOT.  They shouldn't even be talking to ODOT, because it does not make us sound particularly thoughtful. 

 

I still maintain that the best way to use 50 million in furtherance of residential is to spend it on residential.  And that transportation funds should be used to increase transportation, not to reduce it.  So adding a rail line, or at least talking about it, might make this idea more palatable.  West Shore Commuter Rail should be an integral part of the plan.  That way, neighbors who need to get to work aren't made out to be enemies of Battery Park.  That way the project adds value for everyone, rather than transferring benefit from Peter to Paul.

 

Good idea--but we know what 50 million in rail gets us....you'll have more people angry they have no way to get to work then reducing the speed on the shoreway by 15 mph. 

 

This project is about connection--which is something Cleveland has NEVER been able to pull off.  Look how long it's taken the investment pioneers in Ohio City to connect to those in Detroit Shoreway.  Right--it's not happened, and won't in the next 100 years unless we continue to work to connect the neighborhoods in a meaningful way.  Until then Cleveland will brag about it's "islands" of urban renewal, much like we were doing in 1992.

^excellent points

I still maintain that the best way to use 50 million in furtherance of residential is to spend it on residential. 

 

Just curious, do you think the money spent on Gordon Square's streetscape was a good investment?

 

But anyhow, residential is huge, but not the only goal behind the Shoreway conversion.

Just curious, do you think the money spent on Gordon Square's streetscape was a good investment?

 

Yes and no.  Mostly no.  The bus shelters are downright embarrassing.  The lighting is nice though, and was sorely needed.  Generally I prefer more direct investments in the built environment, rather than continually "enhancing" public goods to the Nth degree. 

Just curious, do you think the money spent on Gordon Square's streetscape was a good investment?

 

Yes and no.  Mostly no.  The bus shelters are downright embarrassing.  The lighting is nice though, and was sorely needed.  Generally I prefer more direct investments in the built environment, rather than continually "enhancing" public goods to the Nth degree. 

 

Gotcha.

I would rather see public funding go to making difficult "soil" for housing more fertile than buying more housing to plant in that unimproved soil.

Sticking with the metaphor, I guess I see a lot of available land in Cleveland as crop-ready, and I question the extent to which crosswalk decorations provide much in the way of fertilizer. 

 

Similarly it seems to me that this proposal invests quite a lot into creating access for a massive body of water that isn't exactly walled off to begin with, while adding a relatively small amount of developable land to an already substantial pool of it.  Using terms familiar to the commuting angle, how many minutes is this going to shave off the trip from Battery Park to Edgewater Park?  At a rate of how many dollars per minute?

Everyone who's an opponent of the Shoreway project loves to paint it as a simple time saver for BP residents.  I guess proponents of the project haven't done a good enough job selling the many merits of it, because that perception remains.  BP residents already bought back there and the vast majority did so with no knowledge of the 73rd interchage or the Shoreway project whatsoever.  If the 73rd interchange was open tomorrow, it wouldn't increase sales in BP overnight and wouldn't really improve resale values either.  Get to know people and the area & you'll realize this.

 

The connection is for the existing side streets which are now getting pounded with traffic, coming & going to the businesses in Gordon Square & BP.  Ask Jeff Ramsey, the head of DSCDO for his thoughts on how the 73rd connection is needed to benefit the businesses of the area.  Ask old time residents what the traffic on 76th/74th/73rd is like on a volleyball night or Friday after work when everyone is headed to the area for a drink.  I don't think any of them give 2 shits about BP resident's commute times.  Or ask someone who lives there now, longterm or otherwise, how stupid it is to walk 1+ miles or drive 2+ miles to get to the park which you can throw a stone into.

 

327 - I get that you're no fan of the project and I won't convince you, but your criticism of the Gordon Square streetscape seems especially odd.  This was a much needed investment that had huge returns for the area.  Go back & see the before & after photos and see how many businesses have opened since the project finished.  If there was ever a slam dunk successful project, that was it.  Lighting & landscaping & benches were added, the bus shelters (somewhat hideous) are actually public art, the sidewalk was widened, the hundreds of overhead wires were buried.  Ask some of the new business owners if they ever considered opening before the project or what benefit they think it had on the area.  Regardless, this thread is waaay off topic now as half my post is related to Detroit Shoreway/Gordon Square. 

 

But since we're on the topic, you should volunteer as a Neighborhood Ambassador for the area on a weekend evening and talk to the many visitors who come in from surrounding areas.  Ask them how it was driving there from the East side, and ask them if they had any trouble finding the place.  Ask them if they'd be more inclined to come into the area if there was an interchange at the Shoreway & 73rd...  it's easy to dismiss these people as "typical scared suburbanites" but reality is that these people are looking for an urban experience and the area needs them to continue coming to visit.  These people will only do so as long as they feel safe & comfortable.  Easy driving access, well lit streets, nice sidewalks, and parking close by are all part of the equation. 

Gordon Square was developing rapidly long before the streetscape project began.  As for the 73rd interchange, I agree it's needed.  I also agree that well lit streets, nice sidewalks, and nearby parking are all helpful.  But including this one, I have yet to see a streetscape project so focused.  I find it comical that the sidewalks and crosswalks exhibit such elaborate pizazz where so many buildings are in shambles within a few blocks.  It's like visitors are only expected to walk on the yellow brick road.  Horse first, then cart. 

 

Last year I saw an apartment on Detroit, right by the streetscape area, where the entire ceiling had collapsed into the bedroom and was strewn about the floor.  They're like, yeah we'll clean that up.  I'm like, why would you even show this?  D-S needs to get its apartment stock up to first world conditions, then worry about what sort of abstract meaning is conveyed by the bus stops.

 

  D-S needs to get its apartment stock up to first world conditions, then worry about what sort of abstract meaning is conveyed by the bus stops.

 

Cleveland housing code enforcement is another big contributor to my aforementioned "Islands" of development in Cleveland.  As soon as a couple pioneers move in the ghetto landlords want $350K for their run down building or house next door.    Start enforcing the codes on them or make them sell to someone who will put money in their property. 

 

This for another thread....

Anyone driving the West Shoreway this morning could see that lowering the speed limit is not a bad idea.  Quite a nice multi-vehicle wreck that had things backed up for miles.  The road was simply not designed for today's commuters doing 70 MPH with a phone in one hand and Starbucks in the other!  ;)

I have a Shoreway observation to consider. For nearly a month, a car bumper has been laying on the shoulder before the Westbound entrance to _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Park. This is nothing new, trash and refuse accumulate there because the nearby environment is inhospitable.

 

Now this area is our doorstep to the lake, it's prized real estate that's treated like hell! And it should be treated better. For the life of me I cannot imagine how we can tap the potential here without calming the shoreway.

 

It should and can be a place where drivers, pedestrians and cyclists have the option to slow down and enjoy the area. Just like Lake Ave. Just like Clifton. Then when people can experience more personal access, then there will be stakeholders who care about things like car parts laying there for a month.

 

Good subject for the Edgewater Park thread. Keep this thread for the highway (re)construction project.

Drat. Maybe I wasn't clear enough on the point I wanted to make.

 

I'm not talking about the potential of Edewater, but how the Shoreway conversion is needed to transform the roadside into something far better.

Look closely and you'll see the rotting remains of 3 light poles laying in the weeds along the railroad tracks, just east of Don's Lighthouse....  they blew down and snapped off last summer.  Road crews just drug em off into the grass & they've been there ever since.  It's really not a problem because they rarely mow and when they do, they just mow around em ;-)

Drat. Maybe I wasn't clear enough on the point I wanted to make.

 

I'm not talking about the potential of Edewater, but how the Shoreway conversion is needed to transform the roadside into something far better.

 

Well at least you were creative in your attempt to make it seem like you were on topic.

 

Gottaplan, are you taking notes? ;-)

Anyone driving the West Shoreway this morning could see that lowering the speed limit is not a bad idea.  Quite a nice multi-vehicle wreck that had things backed up for miles.  The road was simply not designed for today's commuters doing 70 MPH with a phone in one hand and Starbucks in the other!  ;)

 

Yeah. This needs to be addressed ASAP. There has been a wreck(s) at this spot almost every week now. You can basically count on a back up at least once a week down Clifton. Traffic on the West Shoreway has grown leaps and bounds this year as an alternative to the innerbelt and its various construction tie ups so it's no surprise the number of accidents has jumped. This particular spot is always bad because the second you round that curve you hit major sun glare. It is also at the lowest elevation point for that stretch of road so it accumulates water and subsequently more likely to frost up which is never a good combination with a curve.

 

There really is no short term solution other than putting up a caution 35 mph before that curve ... which in my opinion would do more harm as you'd have half the traffic slowing down to 35 and the other half changing lanes while going 60 to get around them, which would probably amount to more wrecks.

 

Of course, the ideal solution is traffic calming via actual intersections ... maybe that's for 2019 if ever. I would say, though, that if they ever went through with the actual conversion, the traffic on the shoreway would plummet to just those who live north of Detroit. I am amazed at the number of cars driving the shoreway that DO NOT exit at either Lakeside or East 9th for Downtown destinations. It seems that more than half of all cars driving eastbound on the Shoreway continue to the I-90 merge going east.

 

The same is true for the evening westbound rush. With deadman's curve backing up daily, there are more cars coming from I-90 at 5 pm going west than those getting on from downtown destinations. It becomes apparent when you see just how many cars turn down West Blvd and 117th to reconnect to I-90. I would love to see a study of the percentage of total cars that drive the shoreway between 4 and 6 pm that actually make it past 117th on Clifton ... it must only be a fraction.

 

It would be nice to see this project go through, just to get rid of all the extraneous cross county traffic that uses this as a short cut. I'm sick and tired of hearing all the complaints about this being a "Lakewood to Downtown Cleveland" commute issue, when it's more of a Lorain County/Westlake trying to get to MLK/I-90/I-271 shortcut issue.

Drat. Maybe I wasn't clear enough on the point I wanted to make.

 

I'm not talking about the potential of Edewater, but how the Shoreway conversion is needed to transform the roadside into something far better.

 

Well at least you were creative in your attempt to make it seem like you were on topic.

 

Gottaplan, are you taking notes? ;-)

 

An off-topic accusation?

 

Those are fighting words on UO.

It's not a fight when only one side possesses this:

 

Ha ha. Okay you win.  :wave:

It's not a fight when only one side possesses this:

 

 

Haha. Abuse of power. Ever consider running for office?! ;)

Haha. Abuse of power. Ever consider running for office?! ;)

 

What, and give up all this?

Were number 7, were number 7...

 

CNU's 2012 Freeways Without Futures

 

7.  West Shoreway, Cleveland

 

read on >>>>>>>>>>http://www.cnu.org/highways/freewayswithoutfutures2012

 

^that's interesting.  As you read it, you are led to believe the project is actually moving forward, when it's not.

 

Slightly relevant update - Per ODOT, the original construction contract on the 76th tunnel and Lake Aveune tunnel is being terminated and remaining work will be rebid.  Work at the Lake Ave tunnel is pretty much done except for some lighting & landscaping & fencing I believe.  76th Tunnel still needs all the work between the RR tracks & Shoreway - major excavation, paving, concrete retaining walls, storm drainage, etc.  ODOT is hoping to have the project awarded by May and work resume in June and finish by fall.  The soil conditions encountered in that area, sandy silt, required the retaining wall designs to be substantially increased. 

^that's interesting.  As you read it, you are led to believe the project is actually moving forward, when it's not.

 

Slightly relevant update - Per ODOT, the original construction contract on the 76th tunnel and Lake Aveune tunnel is being terminated and remaining work will be rebid.  Work at the Lake Ave tunnel is pretty much done except for some lighting & landscaping & fencing I believe.  76th Tunnel still needs all the work between the RR tracks & Shoreway - major excavation, paving, concrete retaining walls, storm drainage, etc.  ODOT is hoping to have the project awarded by May and work resume in June and finish by fall.  The soil conditions encountered in that area, sandy silt, required the retaining wall designs to be substantially increased.

 

http://noaca.org/presentations/oh1pt6billshort.pdf

 

NOACA has been working to resuscitate the project.

When is Clifton going to get repaved?

 

I have asked Dona this several times to no avail.  It is my understanding that there ARE dollars to repave Clifton from W117 to the start of the Shoreway but that the city wanted to roll it into the Boulevard Conversion.

 

Well that ship has sailed and Clifton is a beat up concave mess.

 

 

When is Clifton going to get repaved?

 

I have asked Dona this several times to no avail.  It is my understanding that there ARE dollars to repave Clifton from W117 to the start of the Shoreway but that the city wanted to roll it into the Boulevard Conversion.

 

Well that ship has sailed and Clifton is a beat up concave mess.

 

 

 

I've been told the budget is there as well.  I've been trying to get info out of Councilman Westbrook, not only on the road reconstruction, but hopefully sidewalks and aprons.  The road itself has become downright dangerous when it rains.  Larger trucks and SUV's throw up walls of water coming from the wagon tracks that have formed from commuter traffic.

 

Please join me in this inquiry: 

Jay Westbrook

[email protected]

[email protected]

^ Thanks.  I fired off an email to Jay.  I also asked him about that burnt out Constantinos sign which has been an eyesore for years.  I can't believe there isn't some sort of sineage zoning that would force them to fix, remove, or get fined until it's fixed.  Makes the area look burnt out.

 

 

^agreed!  I hate the way that sign frame looks!

When is Clifton going to get repaved?

 

I have asked Dona this several times to no avail.  It is my understanding that there ARE dollars to repave Clifton from W117 to the start of the Shoreway but that the city wanted to roll it into the Boulevard Conversion.

 

Well that ship has sailed and Clifton is a beat up concave mess.

 

 

I thought this was part of the joint city-RTA project to repave and beautify Clifton? If so, I believe that ODOT, the city and RTA have gathered something like $5 million for this project.

Jay responded with the following.  ~DS

 

***Posted with permission from Jay.

 

"It is very likely that Clifton will be converted into a more aesthetically pleasing and more pedestrian friendly boulevard with select locations having landscaped islands and enhanced bus shelters. This plan is better than 2/3rd funded and the cities of Lakewood and Cleveland are making an appeal for the final portion and will know this summer.

 

There is no doubt that the street surface is badly deteriorated and must be replaced. There will not be any significant delay to getting this done. We expect to know by this summer, if we can carry out the basic elements of the “Enhance Clifton” plan or just undertake the resurfacing of Clifton like Lakewood did a couple of years ago.

 

Please be a bit more patient with the likelihood that we will be able to accomplish our greater plan.

 

Thank you,

 

Jay.  "

 

 

 

 

Jay responded with the following.  ~DS

 

***Posted with permission from Jay.

 

"It is very likely that Clifton will be converted into a more aesthetically pleasing and more pedestrian friendly boulevard with select locations having landscaped islands and enhanced bus shelters. This plan is better than 2/3rd funded and the cities of Lakewood and Cleveland are making an appeal for the final portion and will know this summer.

 

There is no doubt that the street surface is badly deteriorated and must be replaced. There will not be any significant delay to getting this done. We expect to know by this summer, if we can carry out the basic elements of the “Enhance Clifton” plan or just undertake the resurfacing of Clifton like Lakewood did a couple of years ago.

 

Please be a bit more patient with the likelihood that we will be able to accomplish our greater plan.

 

Thank you,

 

Jay.  "

 

 

 

 

 

I got a similar response from Mr. Westbrook approximately 6 months ago.  Quite frankly I don't think he knows what is going to happen with Clifton, but hold out hope that something gets done soon.

When is Clifton going to get repaved?

 

I have asked Dona this several times to no avail.  It is my understanding that there ARE dollars to repave Clifton from W117 to the start of the Shoreway but that the city wanted to roll it into the Boulevard Conversion.

 

Well that ship has sailed and Clifton is a beat up concave mess.

 

 

 

Agreed it is a mess!

PD article on the Lorain-Carnegie Bridge bike/pedestrian improvements moved to "Cleveland: Lorain-Carnegie Bridge Bike/Pedestrian Improvements" ;)

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,25846.msg622818.html#msg622818

Not very happy news out of ODOT on projects:

 

http://www.ideastream.org/news/feature/47118

 

ODOT Announces Plans To Solve Financial Problems

 

"It’s not news that the Ohio Department of Transportation is in financial trouble. But when ODOT Director Jerry Wray goes over the numbers, they may not be new, but they can be surprising.

 

WRAY:  “There is a $1.6 billion funding shortfall for construction projects – those are projects that have been vetted through the process, ready to go to construction, and we don’t have enough money to build them. Plus, there’s another $10 billion worth of projects, future projects that are in the development process for which there is no money.”

 

And Wray says that means some of these projects will be delayed years or decades if the situation doesn’t change."

 

Wray also closes the door on any new tax revenue. 

 

Not a Shoreway-specific article, but just another piece that darkens my hopefulness.