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On 5/27/2021 at 10:55 AM, Luvcbus said:

I agree.

Mayor Coleman understood that for The City of Columbus (or any big city for that matter) to reach its full potential, to be the very best it can be, it has to have a strong core, a thriving downtown.

Mayor Ginther doesn't seem to get this.  And, in my opinion, is making a huge mistake.

 

It's not just that Ginther doesn't focus on the core, but I struggle to come up with something he's doing for really any part of the city.  There's been some token push for more affordable housing, I guess?  

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On 5/27/2021 at 10:15 AM, jonoh81 said:

They did ultimately agree to allow buildable caps at i believe 3rd and High?, but it’s been several years and we’ve heard nothing about it since.

Interestingly, an article today on CU about the 70/71 project mentions the caps:

 

"Bedanes said that the next new segment of the project – Phase 4B – will likely begin in the spring of 2023 and will overlap with the work around Front Street. That phase involves replacing the South High Street, South Third Street and South Fourth Street bridges. Each of those bridges will be widened, with pedestrian amenities added, and the High and Third Street bridges will be built with caps on both sides of the roadway that will have the capacity to hold buildings."

 

https://www.columbusunderground.com/i-70-71-split-project-moving-forward-front-street-bridge-to-be-replaced-bw1

I think people have to get X amount of bored/frustrated with Ginther before he changes or someone with bigger ideas challenges him. He even got to run unopposed last time!

26 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said:

Interestingly, an article today on CU about the 70/71 project mentions the caps:

 

"Bedanes said that the next new segment of the project – Phase 4B – will likely begin in the spring of 2023 and will overlap with the work around Front Street. That phase involves replacing the South High Street, South Third Street and South Fourth Street bridges. Each of those bridges will be widened, with pedestrian amenities added, and the High and Third Street bridges will be built with caps on both sides of the roadway that will have the capacity to hold buildings."

 

https://www.columbusunderground.com/i-70-71-split-project-moving-forward-front-street-bridge-to-be-replaced-bw1

Well at least that's some good news.

51 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said:

Interestingly, an article today on CU about the 70/71 project mentions the caps:

 

"Bedanes said that the next new segment of the project – Phase 4B – will likely begin in the spring of 2023 and will overlap with the work around Front Street. That phase involves replacing the South High Street, South Third Street and South Fourth Street bridges. Each of those bridges will be widened, with pedestrian amenities added, and the High and Third Street bridges will be built with caps on both sides of the roadway that will have the capacity to hold buildings."

 

https://www.columbusunderground.com/i-70-71-split-project-moving-forward-front-street-bridge-to-be-replaced-bw1

I think the front street portion will also be widened but not wide enough for buildings. Seems like it would be easier to connect the high, 3rd and 4th as one big cap and make it buildings and green space. 

1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

I think the front street portion will also be widened but not wide enough for buildings. Seems like it would be easier to connect the high, 3rd and 4th as one big cap and make it buildings and green space. 

Stop it right now. You know the folks in German Village will be adamantly opposed.

18 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Stop it right now. You know the folks in German Village will be adamantly opposed.

It will cause a vast connected area to be between German Village and the horrors of Downtown Cbus allowing huge numbers of "transients" to "invade" the area! *clutches non-existent pearls*

1 hour ago, Pablo said:

Stop it right now. You know the folks in German Village will be adamantly opposed.

 

They would claim it would violate the historic character of the neighborhood despite the neighborhood historically being directly connected to Downtown with buildings.  

 

On the bright side, we'd get more fodder for jokes when they come up with new sea creatures to describe the buildings.  The whale is so last month.

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18 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

They would claim it would violate the historic character of the neighborhood despite the neighborhood historically being directly connected to Downtown with buildings.  

 

On the bright side, we'd get more fodder for jokes when they come up with new sea creatures to describe the buildings.  The whale is so last month.

Give them the grass and park areas they want, but they will still complain, or better yet, make the entire cap parking, to replace the Giant Eagle lot.

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32 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Give them the grass and park areas they want, but they will still complain, or better yet, make the entire cap parking, to replace the Giant Eagle lot.

 

And call it the Orca greenway 

1 hour ago, DevolsDance said:

 

And call it the Orca greenway 

 

I'd be partial to Baleen Byway.

 

  • 2 weeks later...

Designated Outdoor Refreshment Area proposed for Columbus' Arena District

Jarrod Clay - WSYX - June 10, 2021

 

"Columbus City Council said it has received an application from Mayor Andrew Ginther to create a Designated Outdoor Refreshment Area (DORA) in the Arena District. The proposed DORA would encompass Nationwide Arena, Huntington Park and the New Crew Stadium. ... Residents would be able to enjoy beverages outdoors within the DORA during all Blue Jackets, Clippers, and Crew games, beginning three hours before the start of games and continuing through 11:59 p.m."

 

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29 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said:

Designated Outdoor Refreshment Area proposed for Columbus' Arena District

Jarrod Clay - WSYX - June 10, 2021

 

"Columbus City Council said it has received an application from Mayor Andrew Ginther to create a Designated Outdoor Refreshment Area (DORA) in the Arena District. The proposed DORA would encompass Nationwide Arena, Huntington Park and the New Crew Stadium. ... Residents would be able to enjoy beverages outdoors within the DORA during all Blue Jackets, Clippers, and Crew games, beginning three hours before the start of games and continuing through 11:59 p.m."

 

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Cool idea, but it looks like an Ohio congressional district, unless they have that area blocked off or super well marked it will be very easy to carry a beer down the wrong street and find yourself in trouble. 

  • 3 weeks later...

This article from The Dispatch today has some good info on both the AD and Astor Park. I'll comment about some of the Astor Park info in that thread.

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2021/07/02/arena-district-office-and-residential-development-far-done/7795014002/

 

The Arena District's primary developer, Nationwide Realty Investors, owns several vacant lots it plans to develop in the district, starting with a thin lot next to the new Chipotle headquarters at the northeast corner of Vine Street and Neil Avenue. Nationwide Realty plans to start a 150-unit apartment building along the stretch after some major power lines are removed from the site, said Nationwide Realty President Brian Ellis.

Nationwide Realty also owns a 1½-acre site at the northwest corner of West Spring and Hanover streets that Ellis expects to one day develop into a high-rise akin to the Condominiums at North Bank Park and Parks Edge condominiums down the street.

"We hope to have a mix of offices and residential here," he said while touring the district recently. "It could be big." 

 

I know we've talked about that lot at the corner of Spring and Hanover being perfect for a high-rise, and it sounds like NRI agrees and is planning just that. Once the first phase of Astor Park gets off the ground, I would imagine that high-rise wouldn't be too far off. 

 

The article also talks about the constraints on developing the railroad triangle. Savko seems confident that it will be developed in some way, but we will see. I still contend that some type of a park would be a good option there. 

  • 4 weeks later...

City Council votes on the Arena District DORA today. The areas south of Nationwide Blvd (including McFerson Commons) have been removed after condo residents, who seem to forget they live in a major events district, complained.

 

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They are just finishing up the parking garage at the new Chipotle corporate building (200 Vine) - anyone know why they left the entire south side of the garage unfinished? It almost looks like they anticipate putting in another building that will cover up that side of the garage. 

1 minute ago, Mogilny89 said:

They are just finishing up the parking garage at the new Chipotle corporate building (200 Vine) - anyone know why they left the entire south side of the garage unfinished? It almost looks like they anticipate putting in another building that will cover up that side of the garage. 

 

Apartments will be going in on the south side of the garage. I think I remember seeing that some utilities needed to be relocated before they could begin that phase.

 

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Are there plans for the adjacent lot on the west side? It’s fenced off and has equipment, but l wasn’t sure if that was just staging for the Chipotle building. 

2 hours ago, amped91 said:

Are there plans for the adjacent lot on the west side? It’s fenced off and has equipment, but l wasn’t sure if that was just staging for the Chipotle building. 

West of Neil and north of Vine? I'm curious too about what's going in there. I wonder if it's a utility project? I believe the Chipotle staging was where the apartments are going in the future.

40 minutes ago, Pablo said:

West of Neil and north of Vine? I'm curious too about what's going in there. I wonder if it's a utility project? I believe the Chipotle staging was were the apartments are going in the future.

That’s the one! I haven’t heard any news about it, so I was just wondering. 

2 hours ago, amped91 said:

Are there plans for the adjacent lot on the west side? It’s fenced off and has equipment, but l wasn’t sure if that was just staging for the Chipotle building. 

I saw that, too.  I wonder if they're just improving that little park space, there, as part of the city's improvements to the area.

  • 1 month later...

@Pablo looks like you may have been right about the utility work. Sounds like the Chipotle apartments from NRI have hit a delay due to utility lines…

 

As Chipotle office building wraps up in Arena District, apartment building next door is delayed
 

The 150-unit apartment building has not broken ground yet because utility lines must be relocated, said Brian Ellis, president and chief operating officer of NRI. 
 

The developer currently is working with the city but doesn't have a definite completion date. Once NRI can start construction, the apartment building will take about 15 months to build out. 

 

"We're anxious to get the apartment building going," Ellis said. "The apartments we have in Arena District are all full, so we're happy to get more built."

 

The apartment building's pool will be visible along Vine Street, he said.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/08/31/chipotle-building.html?utm_source=st&utm_medium=en&utm_campaign=me&utm_content=co&ana=e_co_me&j=24904506&senddate=2021-08-31

1 minute ago, amped91 said:

@Pablo looks like you may have been right about the utility work. Sounds like the Chipotle apartments from NRI have hit a delay due to utility lines…

 

As Chipotle office building wraps up in Arena District, apartment building next door is delayed
 

The 150-unit apartment building has not broken ground yet because utility lines must be relocated, said Brian Ellis, president and chief operating officer of NRI. 
 

The developer currently is working with the city but doesn't have a definite completion date. Once NRI can start construction, the apartment building will take about 15 months to build out. 

 

"We're anxious to get the apartment building going," Ellis said. "The apartments we have in Arena District are all full, so we're happy to get more built."

 

The apartment building's pool will be visible along Vine Street, he said.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/08/31/chipotle-building.html?utm_source=st&utm_medium=en&utm_campaign=me&utm_content=co&ana=e_co_me&j=24904506&senddate=2021-08-31

 

You beat me in posting this by a minute! 

 

I will also add that the 10-story Parks Edge North building is wrapping up construction and is already halfway leased/sold. Not bad, considering how the downtown area amenities have been impacted by the past year and a half. It definitely seems like residential demand is still strong in the AD, so hopefully we will continue to see more (and taller) development.

8 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

You beat me in posting this by a minute! 

 

I will also add that the 10-story Parks Edge North building is wrapping up construction and is already halfway leased/sold. Not bad, considering how the downtown area amenities have been impacted by the past year and a half. It definitely seems like residential demand is still strong in the AD, so hopefully we will continue to see more (and taller) development.

Hopefully it means the North Market tower is officially a “go” next year too 😬

 

 I’m also excited to see what NRI has planned for the piece of land a bit closer to the Dot, which had been brought up in an article around the time of the opening game at the new stadium. 

1 hour ago, amped91 said:

@Pablo looks like you may have been right about the utility work. Sounds like the Chipotle apartments from NRI have hit a delay due to utility lines…

 

As Chipotle office building wraps up in Arena District, apartment building next door is delayed
 

The 150-unit apartment building has not broken ground yet because utility lines must be relocated, said Brian Ellis, president and chief operating officer of NRI. 
 

The developer currently is working with the city but doesn't have a definite completion date. Once NRI can start construction, the apartment building will take about 15 months to build out. 

 

"We're anxious to get the apartment building going," Ellis said. "The apartments we have in Arena District are all full, so we're happy to get more built."

 

The apartment building's pool will be visible along Vine Street, he said.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/08/31/chipotle-building.html?utm_source=st&utm_medium=en&utm_campaign=me&utm_content=co&ana=e_co_me&j=24904506&senddate=2021-08-31

 

I thought so since the site west of Neil between Vine and Spruce is enclosed with a permanent chain link fence with barbed wire on top. It's the type of fence typically surrounding an electrical substation. I wonder if the project is relocating the existing substation on Vine just east of the Flats on Vine? That's where the high voltage overhead transmission lines currently terminate. That would open up that area for redevelopment....or an Amtrak station.

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40 minutes ago, Pablo said:

 

I thought so since the site west of Neil between Vine and Spruce is enclosed with a permanent chain link fence with barbed wire on top. It's the type of fence typically surrounding an electrical substation. I wonder if the project is relocating the existing substation on Vine just east of the Flats on Vine? That's where the high voltage overhead transmission lines currently terminate. That would open up that area for redevelopment....or an Amtrak station.

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Relocating that substation would be huge. I really hope it happens. Moving it would allow for this section of the AD to finally be built out the way it should be. 

2 hours ago, amped91 said:

"We're anxious to get the apartment building going," Ellis said. "The apartments we have in Arena District are all full, so we're happy to get more built."

This is funny to me. Yeah you know all our apartments are rented in this area, let me go ahead and only build a 150 unit apartment.
 

Just build a few more 10 stories in the area and you will have even more apartments filled. 

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1 hour ago, Pablo said:

I thought so since the site west of Neil between Vine and Spruce is enclosed with a permanent chain link fence with barbed wire on top. It's the type of fence typically surrounding an electrical substation. I wonder if the project is relocating the existing substation on Vine just east of the Flats on Vine? That's where the high voltage overhead transmission lines currently terminate. That would open up that area for redevelopment....or an Amtrak station.

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Yea this substation desperately needs relocated. Another crossing, at least just a pedestrian crossing, connecting from Convention Center Dr across to the west side of Nationwide would really improve the walkability of this area and help further bridge the RR tracks. I'd be curious if the garage attached to the arena could be built on top of?

I don't know how viable an Amtrak station would be right here because it's a sort of weird disconnected area, though it is actually at track-level and could allow for some flexibility in the long-run... It just isn't well situated as it is now.

3 hours ago, amped91 said:

@Pablo looks like you may have been right about the utility work. Sounds like the Chipotle apartments from NRI have hit a delay due to utility lines…

 

As Chipotle office building wraps up in Arena District, apartment building next door is delayed
 

The 150-unit apartment building has not broken ground yet because utility lines must be relocated, said Brian Ellis, president and chief operating officer of NRI. 
 

The developer currently is working with the city but doesn't have a definite completion date. Once NRI can start construction, the apartment building will take about 15 months to build out. 

 

"We're anxious to get the apartment building going," Ellis said. "The apartments we have in Arena District are all full, so we're happy to get more built."

 

The apartment building's pool will be visible along Vine Street, he said.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/08/31/chipotle-building.html?utm_source=st&utm_medium=en&utm_campaign=me&utm_content=co&ana=e_co_me&j=24904506&senddate=2021-08-31

 

Aside from the delay issue, I don't understand why they're going for a bare minimum approach for this project in terms of unit density when they admit all their other units are full.  Wouldn't that indicate that demand could actually accommodate a larger project there?  I hear developers complaining all the time about NIMBYism and zoning codes holding them back from building larger and denser, but this is a perfect example where everything is basically in their favor and they still don't.  Is this more that NRI just wants everything to look the same and at the same height in the AD?  

1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

This is funny to me. Yeah you know all our apartments are rented in this area, let me go ahead and only build a 150 unit apartment.
 

Just build a few more 10 stories in the area and you will have even more apartments filled. 

 

Beat me to it.  Doesn't make any sense.

28 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

Is this more that NRI just wants everything to look the same and at the same height in the AD?

Pretty sure this is it. Seems like they don’t want the area to stray from their design ideas. Grandview yard is the exact same. That area could have supported a bunch of 7+ story tall apartment buildings, but seems they want it all exactly the same. 

Just now, VintageLife said:

Pretty sure this is it. Seems like they don’t want the area to stray from their design ideas. Grandview yard is the exact same. That area could have supported a bunch of 7+ story tall apartment buildings, but seems they want it all exactly the same. 

 

How do you know the area could have supported that? And even if the area would have supported that, would NRI have been in a position to take on the increased debt needed for bumping everything up to the 7-10 story range? Would the company's risk portfolio have supported nearly doubling the number of residential units to be filled? How would the drastic increase in residential units have affected the rental rates they could charge, and would the rental income have been enough to offset the increase in construction and administrative costs?

 

I want more height just as much as everyone here, but the common "just build taller buildings, they'll get filled up" argument is overly simplistic. Sure, all of NRI's residential units may be full in the AD, but that could be because they've appropriately met the market's demand. They may have been able to fill up more units if they had built more, but that may have oversaturated the market and pulled down rental rates, thereby decreasing their margin. We have no idea what type of analysis they've done, or the results of that analysis, but I guarantee it's much more in depth than all of us sitting around here and saying "well if you filled all of those up you should build more but this time make it taller because that's more exciting".  

25 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

How do you know the area could have supported that? And even if the area would have supported that, would NRI have been in a position to take on the increased debt needed for bumping everything up to the 7-10 story range? Would the company's risk portfolio have supported nearly doubling the number of residential units to be filled? How would the drastic increase in residential units have affected the rental rates they could charge, and would the rental income have been enough to offset the increase in construction and administrative costs?

 

I want more height just as much as everyone here, but the common "just build taller buildings, they'll get filled up" argument is overly simplistic. Sure, all of NRI's residential units may be full in the AD, but that could be because they've appropriately met the market's demand. They may have been able to fill up more units if they had built more, but that may have oversaturated the market and pulled down rental rates, thereby decreasing their margin. We have no idea what type of analysis they've done, or the results of that analysis, but I guarantee it's much more in depth than all of us sitting around here and saying "well if you filled all of those up you should build more but this time make it taller because that's more exciting".  

I guess I shouldn’t have said I know the area could support more, I should have said I believe it could have. The entire city needs 50,000 housing units, so there is a need for way more.
 

It isn’t so much I want height everywhere, it’s that I want housing needs met. I get that these are not affordable housing units, but we need way more and developers are doing minimums. If the city can’t get enough units over the next decade, it will end up having an impact on population. I’m not an expert at all, and I don’t even know if this would help the problems, I just want to see housing demands met, and building smaller buildings isn’t going to help. 

42 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

I guess I shouldn’t have said I know the area could support more, I should have said I believe it could have. The entire city needs 50,000 housing units, so there is a need for way more.
 

It isn’t so much I want height everywhere, it’s that I want housing needs met. I get that these are not affordable housing units, but we need way more and developers are doing minimums. If the city can’t get enough units over the next decade, it will end up having an impact on population. I’m not an expert at all, and I don’t even know if this would help the problems, I just want to see housing demands met, and building smaller buildings isn’t going to help. 

 

There is really no reason to believe that AD units somehow wouldn't fill or that developers would lose money if they went larger.  The central core added more than 22,000 people in 10 years, and it likely could've added many more than that had most of the development projects in that period actually gone with a better number of units.  Instead, we saw too many underutilize their properties, particularly Downtown.  The AD is nice, but most of it arguably hasn't met the potential of its location.  

As you say, it's not about height, it's about density.  The greater the density, the more retail that can be supported, the more restaurants, the more amenities, etc.  Not to mention increased viability of transit alternatives.  Once these sites are developed, they're out of play for at least a generation.  

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  • 2 weeks later...

Denison University expanding to Arena District with space to prepare liberal arts grads with marketable skills

Hayleigh Colombo - Columbus Business First - Sep. 15, 2021

 

"Denison University has secured the former Sparkspace location in the Arena District to create a hands-on learning environment where industry experts will help liberal arts majors launch into or pivot into new careers. The 10,000-square-foot space in Marconi Square will be called Denison Edge and it will serve not only Denison students, but students from other Ohio liberal arts colleges as well. ... Denison is currently doing a soft launch of the space and making some updates to the physical environment. A grand opening is planned for early November. The selection of a location in the Arena District was designed to be convenient for industry partners and attractive to new or early college graduates."

 

  • 5 months later...

The owner of the building that Dahlia Nightclub is in and the owner of the building BBR are in are filing a demolition permit to tear both of those properties down when the leases expire at the end of March. 

 

The reasoning is for more parking for The North Market and then eventually for redevelopment to better fit the area and the new growth coming. 

 

I usually don't want buildings torn down for parking, but in this case, I don't care. Those buildings are nothing great and the nightclub scene doesn't work in that are anymore. 

Any word on if they are still planning to move the electrical substation that sits behind Dahlia? That being moved, combined with Dahlia being torn down, opens up a massive plot for development. Although I doubt they are owned by the same entity. 

9 minutes ago, Mogilny89 said:

Any word on if they are still planning to move the electrical substation that sits behind Dahlia? That being moved, combined with Dahlia being torn down, opens up a massive plot for development. Although I doubt they are owned by the same entity. 

It didn’t say anything about the substation so no idea. I’m sure there are still plans, but with so many empty lots still in the area, it’s probably not top priority. 

Ha, I never knew Dahlia is what that space became. I am so old. It was weird that one of the big party spots in town was in the middle of all that gravel. Now back in the 2000s you could find me in the gravel too.

I'm not sure what will be possible with the Dahlia site unless the substation behind it is moved, but the BBR site is definitely going to be an attractive lot. I can't imagine it would remain parking for long. 

 

Speaking of parking in the AD, the small Arena Crossing surface lot at Vine and Front needs to go. I actually thing a small pocket park would be great. Maybe a small water feature in the center surrounded by tables and shade trees. It would be a great spot for North Market visitors to relax and enjoy the food they bought in the market. 

Dahlia always has a nice variety of acts coming through for very affordable prices. Other than that the place kinda sucks though. It's so cramped, you have to shove through the entire crowd to get to the bathroom and more and more of the floor space kept getting reclaimed for VIP seating. Was very easy to go see shows there though.

22 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

Ha, I never knew Dahlia is what that space became. I am so old. It was weird that one of the big party spots in town was in the middle of all that gravel. Now back in the 2000s you could find me in the gravel too.

 

That space has seen a lot.  Used to be Adobe Grilas, Garage Bar, and Bucks & Pucks.

Very Stable Genius

Brian Ellis said the gravel lots behind the Chipotle development are next up to be built, wants to get it going asap and it will

be about 150 units. Just waiting on the city to bury the power lines but that has been a big hurdle.

36 minutes ago, 614love said:

Just waiting on the city to bury the power lines but that has been a big hurdle.

And for whatever reason, that seems to take forever.

It took a really long time to get the single power line down that went across the middle of the property at 4th and 5th.  

 

12 hours ago, Luvcbus said:

And for whatever reason, that seems to take forever.

It took a really long time to get the single power line down that went across the middle of the property at 4th and 5th.  

 

Utilities take time. Power was removed quickly from 4th & 5th - what you saw linger was phone and cable. I think utility companies have no sense of urgency unless there's an outage (even then folks think they are slow). It's first come first serve and there's a backlog in a rapidly growing city.

Arena District buildings near North Market, Hilton tower projects hit the market

 

A pair of Arena District buildings that neighbor two of the region's most closely watched construction projects have been listed for sale.

 

The two-story buildings at 473 - 479 N. High St. are listed at $6.85 million, said Doug Wilson, with SVN Wilson Commercial Group, the listing agent.

 

The buildings are across the street from the Columbus Convention Center and adjacent to the North Market parking lot. There are three restaurant tenant spaces, including one that houses Novak's Tavern.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/02/22/novaks-building-listed-for-sale-downtown.html

 

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14 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

Arena District buildings near North Market, Hilton tower projects hit the market

 

A pair of Arena District buildings that neighbor two of the region's most closely watched construction projects have been listed for sale.

 

The two-story buildings at 473 - 479 N. High St. are listed at $6.85 million, said Doug Wilson, with SVN Wilson Commercial Group, the listing agent.

 

The buildings are across the street from the Columbus Convention Center and adjacent to the North Market parking lot. There are three restaurant tenant spaces, including one that houses Novak's Tavern.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/02/22/novaks-building-listed-for-sale-downtown.html

 

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They're looking for a ten year return of almost 4X lol.

 

By my measurements we could get a Charlotte-size Ritz Carlton, i.e. 176 rooms, on this site and it'd be 32 floors.

At a nearly $7M asking price, whoever ends up buying the property will need to go tall to make it worthwhile. 

  • 3 weeks later...

Two Arena District Bars Closing Next Month

 

Peerless Management Group will shutter two of its properties next month. Both Dahlia Nightclub, 147 Vine St., and BBR, 106 Vine St. will close on Monday, April 4.

 

BBR had a decade-plus run, initially opening in 2011, while Dahlia made its debut in early 2016 in the Arena District.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/two-arena-district-bars-closing-next-month-sp1/

 

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