December 16, 20222 yr 4 minutes ago, PrestoKinetic said: I know a few places in Columbus where they did roadway improvements, so they installed new sidewalks and planted sapling trees in the ROW...with overhead powerlines right above it. Do they think about the potential hazards with that? Arcadia is like this.
December 16, 20222 yr 4 hours ago, TIm said: Nothing gets me going like the burying of power lines and other utilities! Hate seeing nice areas, or any areas really, with a sky full of wires and poles. Completely agree! Bury them all, especially in a city with weather that can take power out at any moment. Fun story, German Village has actively fought the city to keep the overhead lines for the 3rd St rebuild claiming historical character and significance. My eyes were about to roll into space during those meetings.
December 16, 20222 yr I don't think the high voltage lines along Vine can be buried - I may be wrong. When the city plants trees beneath power lines they are usually species that do not get tall. This defeats the purpose of street trees - they're supposed to get tall enough to shade the street. I agree the lines need to be buried. Most new subdivisions have underground electric.
December 16, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, Pablo said: I don't think the high voltage lines along Vine can be buried - I may be wrong. I’m sure anything could be buried, it is probably just way more expensive.
December 16, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, Pablo said: I don't think the high voltage lines along Vine can be buried - I may be wrong. When the city plants trees beneath power lines they are usually species that do not get tall. This defeats the purpose of street trees - they're supposed to get tall enough to shade the street. I agree the lines need to be buried. Most new subdivisions have underground electric. It was Vine and Kilbourne, not Vine and Cherry as I said earlier. From Nationwide on 12/1/22: Columbus Powerline Project Please be informed of a city initiative to bury the overhead AEP powerlines along Vine Street and Kilbourne Avenue. The first phase of work has begun, and will last approximately three weeks, weather dependent. This phase requires temporary closures on Neil Avenue. As such, work will take place during the lowest traffic-impact hours of 7 PM to 6 AM to complete the initial phase. Work following the first phase will continue over the next several months, during normal business hours. Detours will be in place during times that traffic may be impacted. All tenant building access and parking will remain open and accessible, and power will not be impacted by the work.
December 16, 20222 yr 5 minutes ago, Whopper Jr said: It was Vine and Kilbourne, not Vine and Cherry as I said earlier. From Nationwide on 12/1/22: Columbus Powerline Project Please be informed of a city initiative to bury the overhead AEP powerlines along Vine Street and Kilbourne Avenue. The first phase of work has begun, and will last approximately three weeks, weather dependent. This phase requires temporary closures on Neil Avenue. As such, work will take place during the lowest traffic-impact hours of 7 PM to 6 AM to complete the initial phase. Work following the first phase will continue over the next several months, during normal business hours. Detours will be in place during times that traffic may be impacted. All tenant building access and parking will remain open and accessible, and power will not be impacted by the work. Wasn’t this part of the funding the city allocated for the stadium? Edited December 16, 20222 yr by VintageLife
December 18, 20222 yr I suppose it could be solely related to the utilities work, but I’m going to keep my fingers crossed that, now with fencing up around the perimeter of the apartment site, we’ll see a 2023 groundbreaking. I’m tired of seeing the blank wall of the parking garage lol Plus, it would be great to see this, Merchant, and the first phase of AP all start next year. Would add 570+ units in/near the AD.
December 19, 20222 yr 21 hours ago, amped91 said: I suppose it could be solely related to the utilities work, but I’m going to keep my fingers crossed that, now with fencing up around the perimeter of the apartment site, we’ll see a 2023 groundbreaking. I’m tired of seeing the blank wall of the parking garage lol Plus, it would be great to see this, Merchant, and the first phase of AP all start next year. Would add 570+ units in/near the AD. Did you happen to notice a contractor's name on any of the equipment? That would give you a clue as to what type of work is underway.
December 19, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, Pablo said: Did you happen to notice a contractor's name on any of the equipment? That would give you a clue as to what type of work is underway. No, I didn’t see any, unfortunately.
December 20, 20222 yr On 12/19/2022 at 10:17 AM, amped91 said: No, I didn’t see any, unfortunately. Just checked. Looks like it's Danbert
December 21, 20222 yr 6 hours ago, CbusOrBust said: Just checked. Looks like it's Danbert Definitely utility work
January 19, 20232 yr On 12/16/2022 at 3:45 PM, Whopper Jr said: It was Vine and Kilbourne, not Vine and Cherry as I said earlier. From Nationwide on 12/1/22: Columbus Powerline Project Please be informed of a city initiative to bury the overhead AEP powerlines along Vine Street and Kilbourne Avenue. The first phase of work has begun, and will last approximately three weeks, weather dependent. This phase requires temporary closures on Neil Avenue. As such, work will take place during the lowest traffic-impact hours of 7 PM to 6 AM to complete the initial phase. Work following the first phase will continue over the next several months, during normal business hours. Detours will be in place during times that traffic may be impacted. All tenant building access and parking will remain open and accessible, and power will not be impacted by the work. The transmission lines between the tower just south of the Moody Nolan building and the tower just east of the Flats on Vine are being buried starting this June. Those two towers will be replaced, and the four in between will be removed. There are three along Vine in front of the Chipotle building and future apartments, and one at the NW corner of Neil and Vine.
January 20, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, aderwent said: The transmission lines between the tower just south of the Moody Nolan building and the tower just east of the Flats on Vine are being buried starting this June. Those two towers will be replaced, and the four in between will be removed. There are three along Vine in front of the Chipotle building and future apartments, and one at the NW corner of Neil and Vine. Anybody know if the apartments being built south of the parking garage will extend into the gravel lot directly to the east?
January 20, 20232 yr 14 hours ago, Luvcbus said: Anybody know if the apartments being built south of the parking garage will extend into the gravel lot directly to the east? Someone a few pages back had posted renderings with appeared to show the apartment building only going up to Kilbourne, basically extending the length of the garage. Based on what was said when the owner of the Dahlia and BBR buildings was seeking demolition, NRI supposedly has some long term plans for the surrounding area, but, knowing them, that could be a very long time away. ETA a link to the post with the renderings: And the site footprint:
January 20, 20232 yr On 5/23/2022 at 12:02 PM, 614love said: Got these from a friend of a friend. Do not share anywhere else please. I’m sure these aren’t finished. These are renderings for the next Arena District project behind Chipotle (don’t know exactly which lot). Looks like a terrible take on 80s/90s style brick office buildings.
January 20, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: They're going to upcycle the peaked roof Drury Inn is trying to get rid of. The Drury needs to go - always has been poorly planned. I'd love to see some 7-9 story buildings over there with angles and more glass to compliment the Hilton Tower instead of this disaster.
January 23, 20232 yr Anyone know anything about this? Is the old Hamilton Parker site where the Chipotle building is now, or is it one of the gravel lots to the east? (In other words, is this the Chipotle apartments we already know about, or is this something new?) Auditor’s website doesn’t give an exact address, but NRI has owned the property for a few years now. The unit number given for the Chipotle apartments was ~150, this one is listed at 124.
January 23, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, amped91 said: Anyone know anything about this? Is the old Hamilton Parker site where the Chipotle building is now, or is it one of the gravel lots to the east? (In other words, is this the Chipotle apartments we already know about, or is this something new?) Auditor’s website doesn’t give an exact address, but NRI has owned the property for a few years now. The unit number given for the Chipotle apartments was ~150, this one is listed at 124. It's the building we already know about. If you click on "mapping" there on the left it'll highlight the parcel you're viewing.
January 23, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, aderwent said: It's the building we already know about. If you click on "mapping" there on the left it'll highlight the parcel you're viewing. That’s a bummer. I was hoping for something new lol
February 22, 20232 yr Another boring Arena District plan is on the agenda for this month. 220 Vine St
February 23, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Another boring Arena District plan is on the agenda for this month. 220 Vine St Flats on Vine Copy+Paste I guess it's what's to be expected for the parcel. On one side I'm glad it's still going forward and I'm always happy to see another surface lot meet its demise. On the other, I'd kill to see some bit of architectural variety in whatever is planned next for the Arena District.
February 23, 20232 yr Doesn’t look like the design has changed much from what was originally released. I know NRI dev isn’t loved around here, but I really don’t mind it. I agree with you though, @CMHOhio. I want to see more variety (and height) in future phases of this corner of the AD.
February 23, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, amped91 said: Doesn’t look like the design has changed much from what was originally released. I know NRI dev isn’t loved around here, but I really don’t mind it. I agree with you though, @CMHOhio. I want to see more variety (and height) in future phases of this corner of the AD. Sadly, I don’t think either will ever change and the AD is going to be 5 story brick.
February 23, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, NW24HX said: Eh it's fine. Has AEP relocated the power poles yet? Not yet, but they're working on it. I was through there a couple hours ago, and there's lots of activity in the area! There's also more tents setup in the North Market parking lot compared to last week.
February 23, 20232 yr Still a couple more huge gravel lots right next to this that we need developed.
February 23, 20232 yr 16 hours ago, CbusOrBust said: Not yet, but they're working on it. I was through there a couple hours ago, and there's lots of activity in the area! There's also more tents setup in the North Market parking lot compared to last week. You weren’t kidding. Drove through earlier and there’s all kinds of activity. Utilities, excavation, sidewalks, getting the old BBR building ready for the on-site office, etc.
February 23, 20232 yr NRI says they plan to start construction of the apartment building this year, according to CBF: Nationwide Realty Investors moving forward on 124-unit apartment building in Columbus' Arena District “Next week, the Downtown Commission will consider NRI's proposal for a 124-unit, five-story apartment building at the northwest corner of Vine and Kilbourne streets. The building would complete the redevelopment of the city block today home to office building and parking garage completed in 2021. Commercial real estate brokerage Marcus & Millichap and Chipotle are in the office building at 500 Neil Ave., which cost about $35 million. If approved, the planned apartment building at 220 Vine St. will be shaped like an "E" and will have a pool and outdoor space. The apartment building as currently proposed would be brick with black fiber cement panels. Columbus Architectural Studio is its architect. "This is another step toward development of the multi-family project planned for the site. We hope to break ground yet this year and will share more details as designs and construction schedules are finalized," NRI spokeswoman Carli Lanfersiek said in response to questions from Columbus Business First.“ https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/23/nri-apartment-building.html
February 23, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, DevolsDance said: It's fine and glad the gabled roof got axed. Good call. I had forgotten about that design feature (flaw?). I still wish they had done something to distinguish it a bit more from its Flats neighbors, but those gables certainly were not the answer.
February 23, 20232 yr Everything says five stories, but the southwestern portion of the building is definitely 6, right? Or am I seeing things? Lol
February 23, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, DevolsDance said: It's fine and glad the gabled roof got axed. I don’t live the gabled roof but it does add height (however minimal it is I’m always in favor of more height)
February 24, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, amped91 said: Everything says five stories, but the southwestern portion of the building is definitely 6, right? Or am I seeing things? Lol I noticed that also, and was very confused.
February 24, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, amped91 said: Everything says five stories, but the southwestern portion of the building is definitely 6, right? Or am I seeing things? Lol It's six.
February 24, 20232 yr 18 hours ago, DevolsDance said: It's fine and glad the gabled roof got axed. Technically it's a hip roof, but I agree. They make the design appear more suburban.
February 27, 20232 yr The Punch List: How Nationwide Realty Investors shaped the Arena District Twenty years ago, the Arena District was a sea of parking lots with a dilapidated prison in the middle of it. Now it's home to 200 acres of mixed-use development, including apartments, offices, retail and, of course, a hockey arena. Today, the firm behind that transformation is moving forward on a five-story apartment building that will join Chipotle's office building on the district's western cap. It's an appropriate time to look back at the developer's transformative impact on the area, which is the subject of this week's Punch List. As NRI President Brian Ellis detailed in his remarks at our 2020 Power Breakfast, insurance giant Nationwide committed to downtown's future in the 1970s, when it built its headquarters at One Nationwide Plaza. Two decades later, the company agreed to help finance the future Nationwide Arena, and its development arm, Nationwide Realty, became the driving force behind the facility itself and the surrounding area. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/27/nationwide-realty-arena-district-punch-list.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 27, 20232 yr 28 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: The Punch List: How Nationwide Realty Investors shaped the Arena District Twenty years ago, the Arena District was a sea of parking lots with a dilapidated prison in the middle of it. Now it's home to 200 acres of mixed-use development, including apartments, offices, retail and, of course, a hockey arena. Today, the firm behind that transformation is moving forward on a five-story apartment building that will join Chipotle's office building on the district's western cap. It's an appropriate time to look back at the developer's transformative impact on the area, which is the subject of this week's Punch List. As NRI President Brian Ellis detailed in his remarks at our 2020 Power Breakfast, insurance giant Nationwide committed to downtown's future in the 1970s, when it built its headquarters at One Nationwide Plaza. Two decades later, the company agreed to help finance the future Nationwide Arena, and its development arm, Nationwide Realty, became the driving force behind the facility itself and the surrounding area. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/27/nationwide-realty-arena-district-punch-list.html I think it is amazing what they did for the arena district, I just think it’s time they give it up. Let some other developers come in and enhance it, and make it a touch better. They can focus on grandview yard and have the ability to do whatever they want there. Edited February 27, 20232 yr by VintageLife
February 27, 20232 yr Agreed, but it has come a long way... "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 27, 20232 yr 53 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: The Punch List: How Nationwide Realty Investors shaped the Arena District Twenty years ago, the Arena District was a sea of parking lots with a dilapidated prison in the middle of it. Now it's home to 200 acres of mixed-use development, including apartments, offices, retail and, of course, a hockey arena. Today, the firm behind that transformation is moving forward on a five-story apartment building that will join Chipotle's office building on the district's western cap. It's an appropriate time to look back at the developer's transformative impact on the area, which is the subject of this week's Punch List. As NRI President Brian Ellis detailed in his remarks at our 2020 Power Breakfast, insurance giant Nationwide committed to downtown's future in the 1970s, when it built its headquarters at One Nationwide Plaza. Two decades later, the company agreed to help finance the future Nationwide Arena, and its development arm, Nationwide Realty, became the driving force behind the facility itself and the surrounding area. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/27/nationwide-realty-arena-district-punch-list.html Bizjournals couldn't snag a picture that's newer than four years old?...
February 27, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Agreed, but it has come a long way... For sure, that’s why I added they did an amazing job of kickstarting it, I feel they are now holding it back from what it could and should be.
February 28, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, VintageLife said: I think it is amazing what they did for the arena district, I just think it’s time they give it up. Let some other developers come in and enhance it, and make it a touch better. They can focus on grandview yard and have the ability to do whatever they want there. I know we like to deride their use of brick here, but at least the majority of their buildings are pretty good quality and have unique features, and the public spaces in the arena district are pretty high quality. Given what the area was like when NRI got started, and the state of downtown as a whole, I’d say it’s been a pretty big win.
February 28, 20232 yr 37 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: I know we like to deride their use of brick here, but at least the majority of their buildings are pretty good quality and have unique features, and the public spaces in the arena district are pretty high quality. Given what the area was like when NRI got started, and the state of downtown as a whole, I’d say it’s been a pretty big win. Oh for sure, I do not disagree with any of that. They did an amazing job and created something out of nothing. The buildings look beautiful, there are just to many of the exact same ones now. I think they are just out of their range for what the area actually needs now, and I would like to see them be done with developments, in the downtown area.
February 28, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Oh for sure, I do not disagree with any of that. They did an amazing job and created something out of nothing. The buildings look beautiful, there are just too many of the exact same ones now. I think they are just out of their range for what the area actually needs now, and I would like to see them be done with developments, in the downtown area. …after they build the next condo tower lol
February 28, 20232 yr Just now, amped91 said: …after they build the next condo tower lol Seriously though, there will probably be one or two coming on the western edge of Nationwide Blvd near LDC. I'll be interested to see how they design them. I like what they did with the North Bank condos and Park's Edge, so it will be interesting to see what direction they go. If they build a 20-story brick tower I think we'll just have admire their commitment lol.
February 28, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Seriously though, there will probably be one or two coming on the western edge of Nationwide Blvd near LDC. I'll be interested to see how they design them. I like what they did with the North Bank condos and Park's Edge, so it will be interesting to see what direction they go. If they build a 20-story brick tower I think we'll just have admire their commitment lol. I can’t wait to see those lots across from LDC redeveloped, along with the rest of Astor Park coming along. Will really bring a lot of life down there even when there’s not a game. I also remember around the time LDC was about to open, there was an article where NRI’s president said they wanted to do something big at Spring and Hanover. I hope that’s still in the cards. Brick or no brick :p
February 28, 20232 yr Arena District's outdoor drinking zone grows “Columbus is saying "cheers" to a livelier Arena District by greatly expanding its outdoor drinking program. Driving the news: A new ordinance approved by the City Council last night allows the Designated Outdoor Refreshment Area (DORA) to be active during any Arena District event, not just sports-related ones. Why it matters: The expansion is meant to draw more visitors to that area of downtown, support those businesses and alleviate the confusion surrounding when DORA rules are in place.” Link to the story from Axios: https://www.axios.com/local/columbus/2023/02/28/arenadistrict-outdoor-drinking-zone-columbus-grows And link to the legislation: https://columbus.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=6039260&GUID=2EE572B9-ABDE-4C94-A80E-B83FEB1F47AE&FullText=1
March 1, 20232 yr On 2/27/2023 at 5:08 PM, ColDayMan said: Agreed, but it has come a long way... One thing that's so weird is Columbus seemed to either tear down all their iconic historic buildings or just never had them. Cleveland is way cooler architecturally - Columbus is just surface lots and filing cabinets. I wish we had more stuff like The Atlas in the city. Have to say I'm not thrilled about the train station being taken out though - that building was very unique. That being said I'd like to see 8-10 story buildings in the future in the AD. I think that's a good middle ground in terms of height.
March 1, 20232 yr 53 minutes ago, columbus17 said: One thing that's so weird is Columbus seemed to either tear down all their iconic historic buildings or just never had them. Cleveland is way cooler architecturally - Columbus is just surface lots and filing cabinets. I wish we had more stuff like The Atlas in the city. Have to say I'm not thrilled about the train station being taken out though - that building was very unique. That being said I'd like to see 8-10 story buildings in the future in the AD. I think that's a good middle ground in terms of height. Columbus was a bit of both I believe. They tore down numerous buildings in the 50’s/60’s and replaced them with parking lots. They also just didn’t have as many iconic big buildings like Cleveland. Cleveland was once a top 10 city in the country and had tons of money and population, so the city was built for density and with money. Columbus was always smaller and has become more of a city in recent years. It’s sad because those late 1800s early 1900s buildings are amazing, but Columbus does lack them. On the positive side, Columbus has never experienced population decline and don’t seem to be tracking that way anytime soon. I think overall having more jobs and increasing population is a better trade off.
March 1, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Columbus was a bit of both I believe. They tore down numerous buildings in the 50’s/60’s and replaced them with parking lots. They also just didn’t have as many iconic big buildings like Cleveland. Cleveland was once a top 10 city in the country and had tons of money and population, so the city was built for density and with money. Columbus was always smaller and has become more of a city in recent years. It’s sad because those late 1800s early 1900s buildings are amazing, but Columbus does lack them. On the positive side, Columbus has never experienced population decline and don’t seem to be tracking that way anytime soon. I think overall having more jobs and increasing population is a better trade off. As long as I maintain pull with developers within the city I'll keep advocating for some of that historic style architecture.
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