September 12, 2024Sep 12 The north side of Spring Street could be our little Gold Coast of Columbus, but instead of a Great Lake or an ocean, we have the Scioto River. Seriously, there are nice views of the river and downtown from that perspective, especially if you get up higher.
September 12, 2024Sep 12 5 hours ago, VintageLife said: Well this is great, even if it is arshot. preliminary site plan permit filed for Description: 530 W. Spring St. The project activities include the construction of a 22-story skyscraper, parking garage, two access drives, sidewalks, & associated utilities. What is this? Did I miss a proposal? PS.. agree on being skeptical about Arshot.
September 12, 2024Sep 12 Just now, John7165 said: What is this? Did I miss a proposal? PS.. agree on being skeptical about Arshot. No proposal shared anywhere yet. They filed a permit for preliminary site plan. I would guess a rendering would be on this month’s meeting or next. The site hasn’t been working so it’s hard to find any renderings for any project at the moment.
September 12, 2024Sep 12 If NRI was involved, I would be inclined to believe this. But yea, I’ll believe when I see a crane in the air.
September 12, 2024Sep 12 29 minutes ago, VintageLife said: No proposal shared anywhere yet. They filed a permit for preliminary site plan. I would guess a rendering would be on this month’s meeting or next. The site hasn’t been working so it’s hard to find any renderings for any project at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if they reuse the Millennial plans over here and modify them.
September 12, 2024Sep 12 Just now, columbus17 said: I wouldn't be surprised if they reuse the Millennial plans over here and modify them. It also would fit much better in the AD
September 30, 2024Sep 30 Arshot Submits Plan for 22-Story Tower Near Soccer Stadium A preliminary site plan has been filed with the City of Columbus for a 22-story mixed-use building across the street from Lower.com Field. The tower would be constructed on a 1.6-acre parcel located at 530 W. Spring St. Elevations included with the application show a five-story parking garage at the base of the building, with two separate towers extending above. Taller floor heights and floor-to-ceiling windows suggest that offices are planned for the shorter of the two towers, while the taller one would hold residential units. An amenity deck is shown in between the two towers. The building at its highest point would be 301 feet tall. The garage would have space for 580 cars, according to the plans, but no details were included about how many units or how much square footage of commercial space would be included in the building.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 How are they so bad at this?? So none of this would really face the river?? Why wouldn’t they demo the building there currently or at least use the facade of it and build a proper building? I guess the positive is that this most likely won’t happen. I love the 22 story aspect but good lord this is a terrible design. Edited September 30, 2024Sep 30 by VintageLife
September 30, 2024Sep 30 The way I read it there will be a 5 story parking garage facing the stadium.....nice.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 5 minutes ago, Pablo said: The way I read it there will be a 5 story parking garage facing the stadium.....nice. The first elevation rendering seems to indicate that there will be ground floor commercial space along Nationwide Blvd facing the stadium. It's hard to tell though. I won't get worked up until we get some more details. I also won't get my hopes up too much since...you know...Arshot. 10 minutes ago, VintageLife said: How are they so bad at this?? So none of this would really face the river?? The part that is along the south elevation is just parking garage with no design?? Just style it after the condo tower already there. What do you mean by "none of this will face the river"? The south portion of the tower(s) will face the river. The bottom few floors of the south side of the building will be screened by the existing office building.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 2 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: The first elevation rendering seems to indicate that there will be ground floor commercial space along Nationwide Blvd facing the stadium. It's hard to tell though. I won't get worked up until we get some more details. I also won't get my hopes up too much since...you know...Arshot. What do you mean by "none of this will face the river"? The south portion of the tower(s) will face the river. The bottom few floors of the south side of the building will be screened by the existing office building. I guess I meant, why not just tear down the building currently there and build it there? The windows on the south of the tower are pretty bad, unless the shorter tower will be the residential portion. like you said though, I don’t think this will even happen, since it’s arshot. Edited September 30, 2024Sep 30 by VintageLife
September 30, 2024Sep 30 4 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I guess I meant, why not just tear down the building currently there and build it there? The windows on the south of the tower are pretty bad, unless the shorter tower will be the residential portion. like you said though, I don’t think this will even happen, since it’s arshot. Ah, I see what you mean. That office building is a separate parcel, even though both parcels share the same address. My assumption is they are only purchasing the parcel with the surface lot and not the parcel with the office building. To your point about the windows, I don't really think we can draw any conclusions about the facade without seeing an actual rendering. We can't even see anything on the east or west sides of the building. The height is obviously exciting. Adding residents and more office space here is exciting, if they can fill it. If they have some ground floor commercial space, that's definitely a good thing. But for everything else I think we need to wait until we have some more details until we get too worked up.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 4 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Ah, I see what you mean. That office building is a separate parcel, even though both parcels share the same address. My assumption is they are only purchasing the parcel with the surface lot and not the parcel with the office building. To your point about the windows, I don't really think we can draw any conclusions about the facade without seeing an actual rendering. We can't even see anything on the east or west sides of the building. The height is obviously exciting. Adding residents and more office space here is exciting, if they can fill it. If they have some ground floor commercial space, that's definitely a good thing. But for everything else I think we need to wait until we have some more details until we get too worked up. You are right about waiting for more details, and that adding more housing is amazing. If I remember correctly though I am pretty sure I saw the office building for sale a couple months ago and it is no longer listed. I might be remembering something different, but could swear it was that building.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 Dang, I really like the overall look of this proposal. Too bad it's Arshot and comes with their sketchy track record of getting projects off the ground. Not sure where they think they'd get office tenants for the smaller tower; I feel like this would work perfectly well being purely residential with ground floor retail. I guess we'll see how this goes.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 12 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: Dang, I really like the overall look of this proposal. Too bad it's Arshot and comes with their sketchy track record of getting projects off the ground. Not sure where they think they'd get office tenants for the smaller tower; I feel like this would work perfectly well being purely residential with ground floor retail. I guess we'll see how this goes. That’s what I was thinking. Not sure there is a need for much office space, would be better to have one side apartments and the other condo units.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 By comparison, at 301' tall, it would only be 1 foot shorter than the Fifth Third Center.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 Who wants to bet somebody is going to complain that it will block the skyline view out of the stadium?
September 30, 2024Sep 30 "In recent years, though, the firm has become known more for high-profile proposals that have either seen significant delays or stalled out completely." - Columbus Underground Ha, love that this was in the article. I don't mind the 5 story garage next to the railroad tracks but it shouldn't extend all the way to the west end of the building. I wish there was a way to screen that north west corner with apartments or office use. It has a great view of the stadium.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 19 minutes ago, 17thState said: "In recent years, though, the firm has become known more for high-profile proposals that have either seen significant delays or stalled out completely." - Columbus Underground Ha, love that this was in the article. I don't mind the 5 story garage next to the railroad tracks but it shouldn't extend all the way to the west end of the building. I wish there was a way to screen that north west corner with apartments or office use. It has a great view of the stadium. This wouldn’t extend all the way to the tracks, there is a road and another parcel after the road. I do agree that it should have an apartment on the end rather than just be garage. Again we don’t have renderings of the west or east side, so who knows what their final plan is.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 2 hours ago, VintageLife said: That’s what I was thinking. Not sure there is a need for much office space, would be better to have one side apartments and the other condo units. I think there is demand for more modern office space. A lot of the downtown office towers are very aged and in need of updating. I think they would be able to find some tenants pretty easily. Especially with attached parking and quick access to 33.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 2 hours ago, CbusG said: Who wants to bet somebody is going to complain that it will block the skyline view out of the stadium? I don’t think it will block the skyline.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 I am begging for someone to make that vacant triangle lot a massive outdoor amphitheater like Riverbend or Blossom.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 2 hours ago, CbusG said: By comparison, at 301' tall, it would only be 1 foot shorter than the Fifth Third Center. Ironically, the Fifth Third Center was an Arshot project that actually happened (mostly thanks to Wolfe money)
October 1, 2024Oct 1 16 minutes ago, NW24HX said: Ironically, the Fifth Third Center was an Arshot project that actually happened (mostly thanks to Wolfe money) And it looks amazing (in my opinion).
October 1, 2024Oct 1 32 minutes ago, smjjms said: I am begging for someone to make that vacant triangle lot a massive outdoor amphitheater like Riverbend or Blossom. That would be awesome. Massive trains rumbling past might not be great for acoustics though.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 55 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: That would be awesome. Massive trains rumbling past might not be great for acoustics though. Kemba outdoors is already right there and I never notice the trains when they come by. They honestly should just get rid of the parking lot, or reduce space, in the lot behind Kemba and expand the outdoor space. or build another one in the triangle and connect the two with a walking bridge over the tracks and have festivals down there. You could use Kemba indoor and outdoor, Huntington park and the triangle
October 1, 2024Oct 1 What was the last Arshot project built (without the Wolfe family)? "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 1, 2024Oct 1 5 hours ago, CbusG said: By comparison, at 301' tall, it would only be 1 foot shorter than the Fifth Third Center. If you look closely, it's actaully taller than 301'. Notice below it says "tower roof" but there is a section higher. Looks to actaully be around 315 feet. I wonder what highway it's near... "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 1, 2024Oct 1 8 hours ago, VintageLife said: How are they so bad at this?? So none of this would really face the river?? Why wouldn’t they demo the building there currently or at least use the facade of it and build a proper building? I guess the positive is that this most likely won’t happen. I love the 22 story aspect but good lord this is a terrible design. It's Arshot. 99.9% chance this never gets built, anyway.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 1 hour ago, ColDayMan said: What was the last Arshot project built (without the Wolfe family)? They've really contributed a lot to my canceled projects page on my website. Does that count?
October 1, 2024Oct 1 7 hours ago, NW24HX said: Ironically, the Fifth Third Center was an Arshot project that actually happened (mostly thanks to Wolfe money) Which has me thinking maybe this might actually happen with the Haslam's money. I'm sure Jimmy and Dee have a lot of interest in what gets built around the stadium.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 11 hours ago, cbussoccer said: I think there is demand for more modern office space. A lot of the downtown office towers are very aged and in need of updating. I think they would be able to find some tenants pretty easily. Especially with attached parking and quick access to 33. Truth. Plus new office (either new build or new renovated) in Astor Park is all leased up.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 3 hours ago, CbusG said: Which has me thinking maybe this might actually happen with the Haslam's money. I'm sure Jimmy and Dee have a lot of interest in what gets built around the stadium. Oh, good point. I didn’t even think about that angle of it. Not sure how much they’d be willing to throw in consider they still have a lot to build out with Astor Park. Regardless, maybe if we all provide Arshot with enough positive reinforcement we can will this thing into existence haha.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 7 minutes ago, amped91 said: Truth. Plus new office (either new build or new renovated) in Astor Park is all leased up. Yep. Let’s build new office space and keep these companies downtown while also forcing the owners of the aging corporate towers to renovate or even alter the use of their tower to residential like we’ve seen with PNC and Continental.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 Looking at the building plan again this morning, it seems like they would be better off flipping the office and residential portion. With the current plan, the office building would not have much of a view of the downtown skyline. It seems like they would be better off having the shorter office portion on the east and then stepping up to the taller residential portion on the west.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 I'm also wondering exactly how this works with the view out of the stadium, too? Looks like they should maybe be cutting the corner of that parcel to maintain the view to downtown otherwise...
October 1, 2024Oct 1 1 hour ago, jebleprls22 said: I'm also wondering exactly how this works with the view out of the stadium, too? Looks like they should maybe be cutting the corner of that parcel to maintain the view to downtown otherwise... I am holding my tongue until I see the renderings but thus far I'm not very impressed with the design.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 The schematic rendering is basically three completely different building styles glued together.... the facade/materials will have to be doing a lot of work to make this design pull together. Oh Arshot
October 1, 2024Oct 1 1 hour ago, DevolsDance said: The schematic rendering is basically three completely different building styles glued together.... the facade/materials will have to be doing a lot of work to make this design pull together. Oh Arshot I'm really starting to hate developers with in-house design teams, or "affiliates." Always seems to be haphazardly prepared, shotty work that should have been presented better. Geis in Cleveland is a 'fantastic" example of this.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 1 hour ago, DevolsDance said: The schematic rendering is basically three completely different building styles glued together.... the facade/materials will have to be doing a lot of work to make this design pull together. Oh Arshot Tbh it’s pretty much a copy and paste of the Phase 2 Peninsula double tower plan.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 22-story tower proposed for site near the Arena District A local developer wants to build a 22-story mixed-use tower next to Lower.com Field. The proposal for the site at 530 W. Spring St. was filed last month with the city of Columbus by Arshot Investment Corp. The 1.6-acre site sits just west of the Arena District at the corner of West Nationwide Boulevard and Hocking Street, just past the railroad overpass on the way to the Columbus Crew's stadium. The surface parking lot serves an adjacent office building with the address 530 W. Spring St. that does not appear to be part of the proposal. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/10/01/22-story-tower-proposed-near-arena-district.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 1, 2024Oct 1 58 minutes ago, amped91 said: Tbh it’s pretty much a copy and paste of the Phase 2 Peninsula double tower plan. It looks better. Peninsula 2 is ugly
October 1, 2024Oct 1 11 minutes ago, columbus17 said: It looks better. Peninsula 2 is ugly Let’s wait for some actual renderings before making such bold claims lmao
October 2, 2024Oct 2 23 hours ago, ColDayMan said: What was the last Arshot project built (without the Wolfe family)? The last one I can remember actually happening is converting the old Cord Camera downtown into Heartland Bank (and giant wrap around ad screen) https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/print-edition/2013/02/08/project-will-give-life-to-corner-site.html Bill Schottenstein (Arshot) has developed a good number of projects both large and small over the years, but was most successful in the 90s and 00s. For the last decade plus? Very little Edited October 2, 2024Oct 2 by NW24HX
October 2, 2024Oct 2 41 minutes ago, NW24HX said: The last one I can remember actually happening is converting the old Cord Camera downtown into Heartland Bank (and giant wrap around ad screen) https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/print-edition/2013/02/08/project-will-give-life-to-corner-site.html Bill Schottenstein (Arshot) has developed a good number of projects both large and small over the years, but was most successful in the 90s and 00s. For the last decade plus? Very little Yikes, that’s one of my least favorite buildings downtown. What is it with them and awful giant screens?? That building and the building at broad and high deserve better than to be half covered with crappy ad screens Edited October 2, 2024Oct 2 by VintageLife
October 2, 2024Oct 2 This area of downtown can be thriving if done extremely well. With the immaculate LDC and easy access to the river and trails there should be absolutely ZERO surface parking anywhere around Astor Park. I do applaud this proposal is removing a surface parking garage, but we cannot have all of these garages facing the street and removing the vibrancy from the area. I'd prefer all parking moving forward to be underground even if that means lowering the tower from 22 stories to 17. They can waterproof the garages, I've been in multiple in Amsterdam and never had issues. There's massive surface parking lots surrounding this proposal and if the remaining proposals in the Astor Park area do not add above ground garages and/or surface parking moving forward this area would be absolutely amazing 24/7. Side Note: If any part of town could support rail transit this is the perfect area with access to rail tracks on 2 sides.
October 2, 2024Oct 2 2 hours ago, KyleofColumbus said: This area of downtown can be thriving if done extremely well. With the immaculate LDC and easy access to the river and trails there should be absolutely ZERO surface parking anywhere around Astor Park. I do applaud this proposal is removing a surface parking garage, but we cannot have all of these garages facing the street and removing the vibrancy from the area. I'd prefer all parking moving forward to be underground even if that means lowering the tower from 22 stories to 17. They can waterproof the garages, I've been in multiple in Amsterdam and never had issues. There's massive surface parking lots surrounding this proposal and if the remaining proposals in the Astor Park area do not add above ground garages and/or surface parking moving forward this area would be absolutely amazing 24/7. Side Note: If any part of town could support rail transit this is the perfect area with access to rail tracks on 2 sides. It is wayyyy more expensive to dig down. Your ask would completely kill the project.
October 3, 2024Oct 3 3 hours ago, columbus17 said: It is wayyyy more expensive to dig down. Your ask would completely kill the project. Unfortunately this is probably true. Even is cities like Austin and Nashville where developers are throwing up towers like crazy, everyone one of them (just about) has 5-10 floors of parking above ground. And a lot of those parking decks are painfully obvious from the street level.
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