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15 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

Two Arena District Bars Closing Next Month

 

Peerless Management Group will shutter two of its properties next month. Both Dahlia Nightclub, 147 Vine St., and BBR, 106 Vine St. will close on Monday, April 4.

 

BBR had a decade-plus run, initially opening in 2011, while Dahlia made its debut in early 2016 in the Arena District.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/two-arena-district-bars-closing-next-month-sp1/

 

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Absolute prime time real estate right there. Sounds like it'll be the temporary parking while the NMT gets built and then hopefully we see some nice and tall proposals for these sites.

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4 hours ago, VintageLife said:

I wish Kaufman would buy it and bring some different style to the area. 

That would actually be a really great addition to the AD. Even better if he could find a way to work the SFH into a design too. Although I realize it’s now such an awkward location for that home. 

I was looking at that realtor.com listing and not to get all sideways, but how does a double lot in the Arena District that's asking $1.25M pay essentially half of what I do in Columbus property taxes?! We really have a broken system, if we taxed this and other property downtown at what it's actually worth we'd see see a lot more development and a lot fewer empty lots. Change the zoning, change the tax law, let's acknowledge we're the fastest growing city in the state and actually prepare for it. 

 

Anyway, hope they do something with the lot more interesting than the parking garage proposed in the listing. 

 

 

13 hours ago, wpcc88 said:

Interesting…. I thought that lot was supposed to be part of the AC project.

It is close. I think the second part of that project is between Armstrong and School streets. I guess this does not include the part along Spruce street?

From today's Dispatch:

 

"In Columbus, a newly formed company called Orveon Global is planning to create 150 jobs with a $15 million payroll for its new project in the Arena District.

 

Orveon Global, based in New York City, is a collection of premium beauty brands, primarily focused on makeup, skin care and fragrances.

 

Boston-based private equity firm Advent International acquired the brands from Japanese cosmetics conglomerate Shiseido in December. The company has regional headquarters in London and Tokyo, and selected 343 N. Front St. in Columbus for its new office after a nationwide search.

 

The office will begin hiring immediately for positions in areas such as finance, legal and supply chain."

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2022/03/28/lithium-ion-battery-company-employ-1-200-sidney/7190384001/

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3 hours ago, smjjms said:

Noticed Loopnet was listing the building housing Char Bar for sale. The listing says it’s under contract.
 

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/437-439-N-High-St-Columbus-OH/15777327/

 

Also, the listing for the Novaks building is no longer up. 

 

Does anyone know the story with the building right next to this at 441 N High? It has been vacant forever and I have peaked in the windows and it appears to be used as a personal art studio/storage. If the Char Bar building just sold for $3.6 million its crazy to me that someone could be sitting on a multi-million dollar property and using it as an art studio. Couldn't find any info on the auditors site. 

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On 2/22/2022 at 1:45 PM, ColDayMan said:

Arena District buildings near North Market, Hilton tower projects hit the market

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/02/22/novaks-building-listed-for-sale-downtown.html

 

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Interestingly, a restaurant is going to go into the space now… wonder that means for the potential development? Hard to believe someone bought it for that price just to put a restaurant in it… 

 

https://columbusunderground.com/agave-rye-doubles-down-with-plans-for-2-columbus-locations-sp1/

 

I cant seem to find it listed for sale amymore. I just see the lease opportunities. The auditor hasn't listed any sale transaction for the parcel yet. I'm not sure how long that normally takes. 

 

I agree it would seem to be a wonky investment to buy the land for so much just to continue leasing out the two current spaces. 

 

If something doesn't show in the Auditors website, it may be possible additional factors since February may have convinced the current owner to hold off on the sale. Which isn't the greatest news. It has so much potential. For the price of the land, I'd hope something significant would be planned for the ROI. 

 

Edit: Or, if it was sold to continue leasing, the buyer may be looking at it as a potential future sale and not interested in development and rather the potential exponential value of the land? 

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On 3/27/2022 at 11:39 PM, 17thState said:

I was looking at that realtor.com listing and not to get all sideways, but how does a double lot in the Arena District that's asking $1.25M pay essentially half of what I do in Columbus property taxes?! We really have a broken system, if we taxed this and other property downtown at what it's actually worth we'd see see a lot more development and a lot fewer empty lots. Change the zoning, change the tax law, let's acknowledge we're the fastest growing city in the state and actually prepare for it.

 

 

Similar properties in the vicinity had to sell for the elevated amounts before the property tax valuation goes up. If there haven't been sales of this type recently it will stay low. A two-story commercial building or an old 10,000 square foot dump truck maintenance building selling for big bux doesn't count.

 

Since there is almost no other SFH in the vicinity they can't make a direct comparison.

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NRI lot behind the Chipotle building is gearing up for an 5 story 150 unit apartment building for 2024 completion. No ground floor retail. Most likely a red brick.

48 minutes ago, 614love said:

NRI lot behind the Chipotle building is gearing up for an 5 story 150 unit apartment building for 2024 completion. No ground floor retail. Most likely a red brick.

Can you clarify which lot this is? The portion of the Chipotle lot that remains unfinished? or one of the lots to the East between Kilbourne and Armstrong?

1 hour ago, 614love said:

NRI lot behind the Chipotle building is gearing up for an 5 story 150 unit apartment building for 2024 completion. No ground floor retail. Most likely a red brick.

I saw what looked to be some utility work going on near the site last week. Did all the utility lines end up getting moved?

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Got these from a friend of a friend. Do not share anywhere else please.


I’m sure these aren’t finished. These are renderings for the next Arena District project behind Chipotle (don’t know exactly which lot).

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Thanks for sharing! Any word on when they might break ground?

 

 Based on those renderings, looks like we could see a good portion of those gravel lots filled in when this is done. 

13 minutes ago, 614love said:

Got these from a friend of a friend. Do not share anywhere else please.


I’m sure these aren’t finished. These are renderings for the next Arena District project behind Chipotle (don’t know exactly which lot).

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I never saw these.

 

But if I did I'd say they have a weird Fisher College of Business vibe to them. Don't get me wrong, super stoked that development of those lots appears imminent, just not the biggest fan of the aesthetics. 

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5 minutes ago, amped91 said:

Thanks for sharing! Any word on when they might break ground?

 

 Based on those renderings, looks like we could see a good portion of those gravel lots filled in when this is done. 

Think they are just waiting for the power lines to be removed from the area but apparently there’s backlog around town for them to be removed.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I wish these were in the 12-15 story range.

NRI is truly my biggest love/hate. Quality material, lackluster vision.

 

I get it, the OG arena district red brick box still looks good (dare I say better) 22 years later, but Columbus has changed so why can't NRI. I honestly think their latest stuff is somehow worse than the early AD projects. The original projects along McPherson had ornamental details and an old urban feel to them, this and the Chipotle offices just look like a regurgitate Grandview Yard projects. 

 

NRI doesn't even need to go bold, just mix it up... heck, even 5-7 story version of Parks Edge would add some diversity and life to the area but they just keep going down this bland road.

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That looks like it will fill in the space between Chipotle and Kilbourne St. That was what was planned as a second phase early on when the Chipotle building was announced.

 

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Love to see progress. Hopefully this phase will see the completion of the garage facade facing 670. Once touted to be covered with some sort of advertisement (not my ideal facade cover) this garage has been allowed to sit unfinished since its completion. Very disappointed in the city for not enforcing what was approved. 

On 5/23/2022 at 12:15 PM, CMHOhio said:

But if I did I'd say they have a weird Fisher College of Business vibe to them. Don't get me wrong, super stoked that development of those lots appears imminent, just not the biggest fan of the aesthetics. 

Was going to say the same thing. Looks like newer OSU student housing or Grandview style apartments than it does Arena District.

I don't think it is that bad really. It is brick and appears to have lots of windows and some very large windows as well. At least with brick they can't 'cheap out' and use tacky panels that look like they came from the new Walmart "Great Value" area of building materials.

 

I guess the fenestration makes it okay with me.

 

Now about that back side of the garage...

2 hours ago, Toddguy said:

I don't think it is that bad really. It is brick and appears to have lots of windows and some very large windows as well. At least with brick they can't 'cheap out' and use tacky panels that look like they came from the new Walmart "Great Value" area of building materials.

 

I guess the fenestration makes it okay with me.

 

Now about that back side of the garage...

The windows stuck out to me also. That makes them a little better, and I don’t think it’s the fact they are brick that people don’t like it. 
 

It just looks like every other building NRI has done. There isn’t a lot of variation in the arena district which worked when it was a smaller area, but it’a getting more spread out and the brick is boring. If they did some 12-15 story brick buildings it would add a great differentiation to the area. 

12 hours ago, VintageLife said:

The windows stuck out to me also. That makes them a little better, and I don’t think it’s the fact they are brick that people don’t like it. 
 

It just looks like every other building NRI has done. There isn’t a lot of variation in the arena district which worked when it was a smaller area, but it’a getting more spread out and the brick is boring. If they did some 12-15 story brick buildings it would add a great differentiation to the area. 

Yes it is quite monotonous there. Maybe they will throw in a new Northbank condo tower somewhere? We can hope.

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See inside Brad DeHays' Municipal Light Plant project as work wraps up

 

Brad DeHays knows what each piece of machinery in a coal-fired power plant does, and he should.

 

The coal that fed the former Municipal Light Plant in Columbus' Arena District used to travel directly through what is now his office.

 

The $26 million project is coming to a close as Connect Realty recently moved into its offices at the Power Plant building and final tenants are being signed and their spaces are being built out.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/06/02/municipal-light-plant.html

 

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"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

That's a great model for renovating these kind of buildings....incredible!!!

Glad to see it’s all leased up too (or, at least, should be, if all commitments go through). Hope that bodes well for the Astor Park office building across the street. This can end up being a pretty lively little corner of the AD, even when the Crew isn’t playing, if done right. 
 

Also, kudos to DeHays for his restoration projects. Both this and the Trolley District look great. 

Just now, amped91 said:

Glad to see it’s all leased up too (or, at least, should be, if all commitments go through). Hope that bodes well for the Astor Park office building across the street. This can end up being a pretty lively little corner of the AD, even when the Crew isn’t playing, if done right. 
 

Also, kudos to DeHays for his restoration projects. Both this and the Trolley District look great. 

Now we have to hope for things to be just as good for other older building projects. The old Kroger factory, the Brewery district stuff, that 6 story building east of the Statehouse with the inner courtyard that has a name I cannot remember right now...

 

What other stuff am I forgetting?

On 5/24/2022 at 9:01 PM, VintageLife said:

The windows stuck out to me also. That makes them a little better, and I don’t think it’s the fact they are brick that people don’t like it. 
 

It just looks like every other building NRI has done. There isn’t a lot of variation in the arena district which worked when it was a smaller area, but it’a getting more spread out and the brick is boring. If they did some 12-15 story brick buildings it would add a great differentiation to the area. 

I just happened to have appts. at both 915 Olentangy and at 1145 Olentangy and on the upper floors and the monotony of the Grandview Yard area made me think of this post. From those vantage points it was even more apparent. A sea of 4-5 story brick buildings. It reminded me of old factory or mill town complexes in places Like Lowell and Lawrence Massachusetts. Just an old brick manufacturing district look. It did look very much like you described-spread out and brick-boring-just like the Arena District.

 

Can't NRI do anything to break up the monotony? It did not have to be this way for either area.  I just don't understand the sprawling monotony of both places.

It looks like something might be happening at the bottom of the AC Hotel in the Arena District. I know Corso announced plans for I think three separate restaurants/bars here but I haven’t seen anything since those plans a couple years ago.

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23 hours ago, 614love said:

It looks like something might be happening at the bottom of the AC Hotel in the Arena District. I know Corso announced plans for I think three separate restaurants/bars here but I haven’t seen anything since those plans a couple years ago.

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Not to get us too off-topic here, but I visited Lumin for the first time this week and noticed the work going on in the storefront too. But the cocktails at the bar were delicious, and the views up there will be great to watch the Merchant Building rise later this year, as well as the NRI apartments and any other development that springs up in this corner of the AD in the near future. 

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On the agenda for the Downtown commission will be a conceptual review of a 7 story, 6 unit building at 116 Spruce St. Will have a partially enclosed rooftop patio. Parking appears to be at the ground level. 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

On the agenda for the Downtown commission will be a conceptual review of a 7 story, 6 unit building at 116 Spruce St. Will have a partially enclosed rooftop patio. Parking appears to be at the ground level. 

 

 

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So would this go on the AC parking lot? It doesn’t look bad; I wish it were adding more than six units though. Hopefully these will be for sale units. Either way, I’m all for that area of the AD getting filled in. 

Where on Spruce St.? I kind of like this - there's a lot of infill this size in Chicago when you get away from the Loop.

 

Edit - Never mind - 112 Spruce at Armstrong. Weird location.

I really like this for the spot. A much better use of a tight spot along 670 for units than the townhomes on Russell/Eden. 

 

And I agree, there's plenty of opportunity for these 3-6 unit condo builds like Chicago. (Though there's plenty of controversy around older 3-6 unit buildings being replaced by 2-3 unit builds in Chicago as well decreasing density for high end residential) 

 

On small plots where developers can't acquire large plots of land for more monolithic builds, I would love to see this set a trend for developers to seek the small plots for this type of development. The issue of course will be pushback from commissions in adding density in more traditions single family or duplex areas of the city. 

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I initially thought is was located by the North Market - the lot is about 25' wide and maybe as deep.

 

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56 minutes ago, amped91 said:

So would this go on the AC parking lot? It doesn’t look bad; I wish it were adding more than six units though. Hopefully these will be for sale units. Either way, I’m all for that area of the AD getting filled in. 

It says they are apartments, so doubtful they will be for sale. Maybe eventually, seems like a better design for for sale units instead of apartments though. 

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If I was rich, I would buy the house across the street from here. 

^It was $1.25M but now is down to $850K. Anecdotally as I look through real estate listings, rising interest rates really have made a difference in list prices already. They haven't tanked of course, but the rate change made things more realistic.

11 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

^It was $1.25M but now is down to $850K. Anecdotally as I look through real estate listings, rising interest rates really have made a difference in list prices already. They haven't tanked of course, but the rate change made things more realistic.

Yeah, I saw an article that said a house bought this year would be $500 more a month than a house bought at the same price last year, based on interest rates. That was a bit ago, so may be even higher now. 

23 hours ago, VintageLife said:

On the agenda for the Downtown commission will be a conceptual review of a 7 story, 6 unit building at 116 Spruce St. Will have a partially enclosed rooftop patio. Parking appears to be at the ground level. 

 

 

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Oh cool, I appreciate seeing the attached floor plan! And I like the exterior design as I think it shakes up the aesthetic a little (I do think the master bedroom could use a buffer hallway to the staircase though). Also, will there be no windows on the east? side of the building? Am I the only one who counts 8 floors in the rendering instead of 7?

They might not count the top level as a true floor. It's likely considered a rooftop with an amenity room. 

59 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

They might not count the top level as a true floor. It's likely considered a rooftop with an amenity room. 

Yes, sorry the meeting materials said it will have a partially covered rooftop with amenities. 

2 hours ago, PrestoKinetic said:

Also, will there be no windows on the east? side of the building?

The lot between this building and the AC was originally supposed to be an eight floor office building. That's why there are no windows on that side. 

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