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    Hollywood casino hotel rises near Georgesville and Broad   Today at dusk         

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    And finally!   The main structure at the Westland Mall site is coming down      

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    Continued construction on hotel at Hollywood casino.

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Developer Hopes New RV Park Draws Casino Fans as Well as Cyclists

 

A new “upscale RV resort” planned for 20 acres of land behind the Columbus Hollywood Casino will feature 135 spots for campers and trailers, a central lodge and fitness center, and a vertical camping platform designed to attract thru-bikers on the Ohio to Erie Trail.

 

The plan comes from Chris Haydocy, the President of Haydocy Airstream & RV and Haydocy Buick GMC (which are both located on West Broad Street, in front of the proposed RV park).  He also serves on the board of directors of the Ohio to Erie Trail.

 

Camping will be offered for a “nominal fee,” according to Haydocy, and bikes will be available to rent for RV drivers interested in hopping onto the Camp Chase Trail, which runs along the southern border of the property and serves as a key link in the 326-mile Ohio to Erie Trail.

 

MORE:  https://www.columbusunderground.com/developer-hopes-new-rv-park-draws-casino-fans-as-well-as-cyclists-bw1

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Plan for Prominent Corner on West Side Spurs Debate

 

A plan to develop six acres of vacant land at the corner of West Broad Street and Georgesville Road received zoning approval from the city’s Development Commission last week.

 

Timothy Ryan, who is representing the buyer of the property – BSTP Midwest – said that the plan calls for a Thornton’s gas station, a hotel and a restaurant.

 

It’s the gas station part that has drawn the ire of some residents.

 

“I think the biggest concern for the area is that’s a prime location, and we want to hold out for something better than a gas station,” said Shawn Maddox, who chairs the zoning committee of the Greater Hilltop Area Commission.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/plan-for-prominent-corner-on-west-side-spurs-debate-bw1

 

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27 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

Plan for Prominent Corner on West Side Spurs Debate

 

A plan to develop six acres of vacant land at the corner of West Broad Street and Georgesville Road received zoning approval from the city’s Development Commission last week.

 

Timothy Ryan, who is representing the buyer of the property – BSTP Midwest – said that the plan calls for a Thornton’s gas station, a hotel and a restaurant.

 

It’s the gas station part that has drawn the ire of some residents.

 

“I think the biggest concern for the area is that’s a prime location, and we want to hold out for something better than a gas station,” said Shawn Maddox, who chairs the zoning committee of the Greater Hilltop Area Commission.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/plan-for-prominent-corner-on-west-side-spurs-debate-bw1

 

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If I was the developer I would just move on, someone wants to invest in the area and they're fighting back over a gas station.  What do they want Easton?

  • 3 months later...

Westland Sears property sells, hinting at brighter future for the closed mall

 

"Haydocy said Plaza needed to secure the entire mall for the site to attract redevelopment.

 

“They’ve been working diligently to buy Sears for years and years,” Haydocy said. “The fact that they bought it now is great; it’s a huge piece of the puzzle.”

 

Haydocy suggested that a clear redevelopment plan was in place, but referred questions about details to Plaza.

 

“There’s no way Plaza would have purchased it if they didn’t have a master plan,” he said. 'This step is a necessary step.'"

 

https://www.dispatch.com/business/20190426/westland-sears-property-sells-hinting-at-brighter-future-for-closed-mall

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Dispatch typo

By bright future, I can only assume it means that the mall will be torn down and replaced with a strip mall and some fast food outlets.   I see no type of mixed-use, dense development going there.  It could be an Easton or even Grandview Crossing type development given how large the whole site is, but I just don't see developers seeing that kind of potential there.  It's gong to be a "good enough" approach just like so many others.  The best case I could see is that they do a standard suburban-style apartment complex similar to what exists just to the south, along with the strip center.  But hey, I'll be happy if I'm wrong.

Edited by jonoh81

I'm sure the casino would like to see something other than a condemned mall that people have to drive past on their way between the interstate and the casino. There was all that talking about economic development that would take place due to the casino that of course didn't actually happen and the abandoned mall site is visually striking proof of that.

3 hours ago, jonoh81 said:

By bright future, I can only assume it means that the mall will be torn down and replaced with a strip mall and some fast food outlets.   I see no type of mixed-use, dense development going there.  It could be an Easton or even Grandview Crossing type development given how large the whole site is, but I just don't see developers seeing that kind of potential there.  It's gong to be a "good enough" approach just like so many others.  The best case I could see is that they do a standard suburban-style apartment complex similar to what exists just to the south, along with the strip center.  But hey, I'll be happy if I'm wrong.

The article has been updated. They're claiming a mixed-use development, but that holds as much weight now as "urban".

 

https://www.dispatch.com/business/20190426/westland-mall-to-become-weston-mixed-use-development-under-plan

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adding link

7 minutes ago, aderwent said:

The article has been updated. They're claiming a mixed-use development, but that holds as much weight now as "urban".

 

https://www.dispatch.com/business/20190426/westland-mall-to-become-weston-mixed-use-development-under-plan

 

Years ago, I made this crude map of what I thought could happen to the site and to the whole area, provided better building standards and a gradual replacement of the existing suburban development.  https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kl1HVmCV7wVn4jAt-hn9pb_USB8&usp=sharing

Sale of Sears Property Bodes Well for Westland Mall Redevelopment Prospects

 

Plaza Properties has acquired the former Westland Mall Sears store and parking lot for $3.15 million, bringing the entire 80-plus acre site under the control of one owner and removing a major barrier to the property’s redevelopment.

 

Franklin County officials and neighborhood advocates have grown frustrated over the course of the last several years with the lack of progress at the site. Local developer Plaza Properties has long controlled about 60 acres of the former mall site.

 

Deb Miller, whose firm Boulevard Strategies is working with Plaza Properties on plans to redevelop the site, explained that the purchase of the Sears parcels – which sit along the western edge of the site – is important for reasons that go beyond land assembly or freeway visibility. 

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/sale-of-sears-bodes-well-for-westland-mall-redevelopment-prospects-bw1

 

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  • 5 months later...

I just visited r/Columbus and one of the most recent posts was this site plan for the redevelopment of Westland Mall. In the comments of the post, the OP says he received this picture from a friend who does construction, and that they will begin tearing the mall down soon. 

 

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Obviously the validity of this remains to be seen.

 

It's difficult to make out what exactly will be included in terms of the mix of uses, but it appears there will be some event space, some park space, and a soccer field. It looks like 5 parking garages will be included, so depending on the size of those garages this could be a fairly dense development.

47 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

I just visited r/Columbus and one of the most recent posts was this site plan for the redevelopment of Westland Mall. In the comments of the post, the OP says he received this picture from a friend who does construction, and that they will begin tearing the mall down soon. 

 

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Obviously the validity of this remains to be seen.

 

It's difficult to make out what exactly will be included in terms of the mix of uses, but it appears there will be some event space, some park space, and a soccer field. It looks like 5 parking garages will be included, so depending on the size of those garages this could be a fairly dense development.

 

If true, that would be awesome news.  It would seem that the actual buildings would front the streets, including Broad and Georgesville, which would be a huge departure from the existing area. I'm curious what the large grey areas are along the top.  Plazas?  It would also appear this plan demolishes pretty much everything- the mall itself, out buildings, the strip mall behind it and at the corner of Georgesville/Broad, etc.  Overall, it actually has a lot of elements from my own map from like 5-6 years ago.  

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43 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

I just visited r/Columbus and one of the most recent posts was this site plan for the redevelopment of Westland Mall. In the comments of the post, the OP says he received this picture from a friend who does construction, and that they will begin tearing the mall down soon. 

 

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Obviously the validity of this remains to be seen.

 

It's difficult to make out what exactly will be included in terms of the mix of uses, but it appears there will be some event space, some park space, and a soccer field. It looks like 5 parking garages will be included, so depending on the size of those garages this could be a fairly dense development.

There really is quite a bit of potential to clean up this site and side of town a bit.  There have been steps in the right direction, but this would be a big boost overall as it takes shape.  By no means an Easton or a huge shopping complex, but a mixed use development would do wonders.  Some shopping of course wouldn't hurt, the reality is all the major good shopping centers are all focused on the Northern side of Columbus.  A boost to the Southwest end of town right along 270 could be a great booster shot to the area.

Did the plan for the other corner ever move forward? If so and if moved forward as was, those that called the suburban model for the other corner short sighted were 100% correct if the Westland Mall development truly does come out to be this dense. 

Germain Amphitheater 2.0? Looks pretty awesome!

  • 2 months later...
On 7/22/2017 at 10:56 AM, Columbo said:

Menards plans store on Hilliard-Rome Road, taking one of last empty spaces

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2017/07/19/menards-plans-store-on-hilliard-rome-road-taking.html

 


Menards announced plans to build a 251,925 square-foot store at 831 Hilliard-Rome Road.  This 36-acre spot of vacant land is located halfway between I-70 and West Broad Street.  Construction is scheduled to start in 2018.

 

Looks like construction is wrapping up on the Menards store along Hilliard-Rome Road between I-70 and West Broad Street:

 

https://www.thisweeknews.com/news/20191120/menards-south-of-hilliard-could-open-in-winter-2020

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Work continues on Westland Mall redevelopment plan

 

Work is continuing on a plan to redevelop the empty Westland Mall property into a mix of uses, owners and developers say.  “We’re working on a tax appeal now on the property and have been working on the property with the county for quite some time,” said Deb Miller, the principal for Boulevard Strategies, the Columbus consulting firm working with the property owners, LGR Weston (aka Plaza Properties).

 

Miller and the owners insisted Tuesday that the 88-acre property, at Georgesville Road and West Broad Street, is not for sale, despite being listed for $39 million.  “It’s always been listed,” said Jeff Ungar, a real estate agent with LGR Realty.  “If someone came to us today and said, ‘We’ll give you $39 million,’ sure, we’d look at that, but we’re looking to develop the property ourselves. That’s our direction.”

 

Ungar said LGR Weston hopes to start razing the mall this summer in anticipation of redevelopment.  LGR Weston announced a plan last April to redevelop the property after it acquired its last major piece, the former Sears store, for $3.15 million.  The plan envisions replacing the 1 million-square-foot mall with a mix of uses in a concept called Weston Town Centre.  The concept included a combination of residential and commercial buildings as well as an amphitheater.

 

MORE:  https://www.thisweeknews.com/business/20200303/work-continues-on-westland-mall-redevelopment-plan

  • 4 months later...

A couple of West Side project updates from this article about Mark Wahlberg acquiring the Haydocy auto dealership and RV dealership across West Broad Street from the Bobby Layman auto dealership he bought in 2018:

 

https://www.thisweeknews.com/news/20200706/mark-wahlberg-adds-to-his-columbus-auto-operations-as-west-side-redevelopment-plans-continue

 


Haydocy's upscale RV resort near Hollywood Casino

This project looks close to breaking ground.  In the article, Chris Haydocy - who will remain a managing member of Mark Wahlberg Airstream & RV after the sell - said he was close to getting financing for the RV resort until the coronavirus pandemic struck.  "It stopped the progress,” he said.  But Haydocy remains bullish on RVs, because the industry might benefit from the pandemic, since people will still want to vacation and relax while maintaining social distancing.  And he is still pursing financing for the RV resort development.

 

Haydocy now puts a $10 million price tag on the 27-acre development.  The park would be called Road Adventures Resort, and would have 185 sites, a small outdoor amphitheater, a clubhouse with grab-and-go food, a fitness center and a saltwater lagoon.  Visitors will be able to park their own RV or rent one from Road Adventures, the RV-rental operation Haydocy launched in 2016.

 


Redevelopment of Westland Mall

It looks like zero progress has been made since LGR Weston spent $3.15 million to buy the Sears portion of the mall, giving it and its sister company, Plaza Properties, control over the 88-acre site in April 2019.  At that time, plans were announced that the vacant mall would be demolished.

 

However, according to the article, "The owners have contacted MORPC about using part of a $600,000 U.S. EPA grant to assess the mall site to see if contaminants need to be cleaned up" and that MORPC "would take applications this fall."

On 7/7/2020 at 1:13 PM, Columbo said:

Haydocy's upscale RV resort near Hollywood Casino

... And a saltwater lagoon. 

This is something I don't get the appeal of. Who wants to swim in a saltwater lagoon in the middle of Ohio at an RV park? I know saltwater pools can avoid some chlorine use, but does that apply in lagoon form? 

 

I like the idea of a luxury RV resort, it's unique and there's not much else going on in that part of town, but are there that many people looking to feel a little more buoyant? 

  • 4 months later...

Cross-posted in the Big Darby Accord Region development thread:

 

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Old Westland driving range on track for 286 homes and apartments

 

A former driving range and putt-putt course on Columbus' western edge soon be home to residential units.  Westerville-based Metro Development LLC, an affiliate of Donald R. Kenney & Company Realty, has been working for about a year to rezone the 41.6-acre former West Broad Golf Center at 5960 W. Broad Street.  The plan is to invest about $39 million into building 286 homes and apartments in the development, which it's calling Crown Pointe.

 

The developer plans to build an $18 million, 192-unit apartment complex on the southeastern 9 acres of the land, with 94 single-family homes on another 32.5 acres.  The homes will cost about $21 million and be completed by a homebuilder that has yet to be selected. About 12.5 acres of space will be retained as open space, according to plans filed with the city's development department.

 

The property is also within the Big Darby Accord Watershed Master Plan, which recommends mixed use for the site, but also includes some small portions of land that are in part of an environmental conservation zone, which stipulates restrictions on groundwater recharge and preservation of wooded space.  The developer has submitted a request for rezoning for the property for Columbus City Council but that has been tabled pending a few final details.

 

MORE:  https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/11/19/metro-development-plans-39m-westland-development.html

  • 3 months later...
On 11/27/2020 at 12:02 PM, Columbo said:

Cross-posted in the Big Darby Accord Region development thread:

 

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Old Westland driving range on track for 286 homes and apartments

 

A former driving range and putt-putt course on Columbus' western edge soon be home to residential units.  Westerville-based Metro Development LLC, an affiliate of Donald R. Kenney & Company Realty, has been working for about a year to rezone the 41.6-acre former West Broad Golf Center at 5960 W. Broad Street.  The plan is to invest about $39 million into building 286 homes and apartments in the development, which it's calling Crown Pointe.

 

The developer plans to build an $18 million, 192-unit apartment complex on the southeastern 9 acres of the land, with 94 single-family homes on another 32.5 acres.  The homes will cost about $21 million and be completed by a homebuilder that has yet to be selected. About 12.5 acres of space will be retained as open space, according to plans filed with the city's development department.

 

The property is also within the Big Darby Accord Watershed Master Plan, which recommends mixed use for the site, but also includes some small portions of land that are in part of an environmental conservation zone, which stipulates restrictions on groundwater recharge and preservation of wooded space.  The developer has submitted a request for rezoning for the property for Columbus City Council but that has been tabled pending a few final details.

 

MORE:  https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/11/19/metro-development-plans-39m-westland-development.html

They have been working vigorously on this site with one lane of 40 shut down as they put in huge new sewer pipes. Portions of the site have also been cleared out.

  • 1 month later...

New senior apartments planned on once-blighted site near Westland Mall


“Woda Cooper Companies plans to build 60 affordable apartments near the Havenwood Townhomes site, which sits just west of and across Georgesville Road from Hollywood Casino Columbus near Westland Mall.“

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2021/05/10/grocery-store-new-apartments-show-signs-life-new-senior-apartments-built-near-westland-mall-spur-mor/7290227002/

New senior apartments planned on once-blighted site near Westland Mall

Mark Ferenchik - The Dispatch - May 10, 2021

 

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"What was formerly acres of blighted and abandoned apartments are now going to be home to a small and affordable apartment development. But whether it's a harbinger of better things ahead for the area near Westland Mall remains unclear. Woda Cooper Companies plans to build 60 affordable apartments near the Havenwood Townhomes site, which sits just west of and across Georgesville Road from Hollywood Casino Columbus near Westland Mall. ...Woda said the company planned to begin construction later this year with units available in late 2022. The two-bedroom units will rent from $410 to $899 a month, based on income."

 

 

These apartments are really not going to be that close to Westland itself-they will be closer I believe to Sullivant Avenue. The part of what was once Lincoln Park West that is in Prairie Township is the southern part closer to Sullivant. This was the large area that was demolished and also where the deadly fire occurred. The smaller northern section that was demolished closer to the dead mall is in Franklin Township right along Georgesville road. The remainder became Havenwood.

 

Any housing especially affordable is good for the area.

  • 7 months later...

City creating new Far West Broad CRA to encourage development

 

The city of Columbus designated a new part of town as a community reinvestment area, or CRA, to incentivize

residential development.  The new Far West Broad CRA will be bounded by West Broad Street, Norton Road and Hall Road.  Columbus City Council approved the legislation creating the CRA at their meeting this week.

 

The new CRA will help two developments being built there, said Development Director Michael Stevens:

  • National Church Residences plans to build a four-story, 92-unit apartment building within the CRA at the corner of Galloway Road and West Broad Street.  The age- and income-restricted development, called Clover Glen, will start construction some time in the summer and wrap up in the fall of 2023.
  • At the same time, Kittle Property Group has plans to develop the Darby Crossing Apartments within the CRA.  The complex will have 260 units, offering a mix of one-, two-, three- and four-bedroom units for residents at 60% of the area median income.

MORE:  https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/12/16/city-creating-new-cra.html

City creating new Far West Broad CRA to encourage development

 

The city of Columbus designated a new part of town as a community reinvestment area, or CRA, to incentivize residential development.

 

The new Far West Broad CRA will be bounded by West Broad Street, Norton Road and Hall Road. Columbus City Council approved the legislation creating the CRA at their meeting this week.

 

The new CRA will help two developments being built there, said Development Director Michael Stevens.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/12/16/city-creating-new-cra.html

 

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I've given up hope that we'll see much beyond typical suburban development for the Westland site and the surrounding area.  That probably has to do with it not being seen as a very desirable area to begin with, but also the development standards for this area continue to encourage low-density stuff with a car-dominated focus.  A lot of potential, but I'd be shocked if the mall is replaced with a mixed-use development that didn't heavily focus on a strip center and fast-food outlots.  Really hope I'm wrong because a true, urban-style development would have the ability to completely change the trajectory and feel of this neighborhood.

 

 

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The trouble with trying to resuscitate sprawl is the sheer amount of land it takes up.

19 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

The trouble with trying to resuscitate sprawl is the sheer amount of land it takes up.

 

True, but the Westland site- once the mall is gone- is basically a huge blank slate, making it theoretically a lot easier to redevelop in a more urban fashion.  The rest of the area would still be a problem because of the existing development, but that could change over time if new zoning was instituted that wouldn't allow typical low-density sprawl to replace anything. 

I also think that if Westland was redeveloped into a true mixed-use neighborhood, it would put pressure on the surrounding area to also get more urban.  

Edited by jonoh81

I suppose I fear it would just be more drive-to urbanism that remains self-contained. Columbus doesn't have too much of this (Easton is too big and powerful to be mere drive-to urbanism) but say compare it to Austin Landing south of Dayton to see how it can turn out sub-optimal by UO standards (while still attracting big-name tenants).

  • 7 months later...

 

(Not sure exactly where this goes...  please move it if it's in the wrong spot)

 

VanTrust Real Estate building speculative warehouse near Bolton Field airport

 

"A Kansas City-based real estate company that's been active in the Columbus market is planning a speculative building in a part of the city it says is "overlooked" and primed for new development.

 

VanTrust Real Estate LLC has started construction on a project known as Bolton One. Located at the corner of Alkire and Norton roads, the new spec building will be adjacent to Bolton Field airport on the southwest side of Columbus. Though it's located near the aviation hub, the facility is not intended for airport use."

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/08/11/vantrust-real-estate-spec-warehouse-columbus.html

 

Developer proposes 225-unit residential project near Darby Creek in Columbus

 

"A Northeast Ohio residential developer has plans to add hundreds of apartments in Columbus.

 

Independence-based Redwood Apartment Neighborhoods plans to build 225 single-story townhome units with attached garages at 400 Alton Darby Creek Rd.

 

Depending of how quickly the project gets the necessary approvals and permits, Redwood could break ground on the 42-acre site in March and start leasing apartments by fall of 2023.

 

The project site abuts the area in the Big Darby Accord, Shields said. The developer had several meetings with the Big Darby Accord Advisory Panel to determine what natural features to keep on the site. Shields said they will keep two wetlands and add water basins.

 

Redwood also is in various stages of the development process for similar developments in Powell and West Jefferson. Shields said he hopes to close on the property in West Jefferson and start site work in November."

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/08/17/redwood-apartments.html

I keep thinking the new posts have something to do with the mall.  

  • 1 month later...

"PENN Entertainment, Inc. (Nasdaq: PENN) announced today that it intends to build a new hotel at Hollywood Columbus.

 

PENN is planning to construct a new hotel at Hollywood Columbus. The project, with an estimated budget of approximately $100 million, is expected to include 180 rooms and new food and beverage offerings. The hotel will be attached to the existing property and will add approximately 100 permanent new jobs, along with hundreds of temporary construction jobs. Construction of the new property is expected to begin in late 2023, subject to regulatory approval."

 

https://www.hotelnewsresource.com/article122983.html

3 hours ago, Luvcbus said:

"PENN Entertainment, Inc. (Nasdaq: PENN) announced today that it intends to build a new hotel at Hollywood Columbus.

 

PENN is planning to construct a new hotel at Hollywood Columbus. The project, with an estimated budget of approximately $100 million, is expected to include 180 rooms and new food and beverage offerings. The hotel will be attached to the existing property and will add approximately 100 permanent new jobs, along with hundreds of temporary construction jobs. Construction of the new property is expected to begin in late 2023, subject to regulatory approval."

 

https://www.hotelnewsresource.com/article122983.html

 

That's big news, great find! Since it will be attached to the casino, I guess that means it'll go on the vacant parcel to the northeast of the existing structure. I wonder what the brand affiliation will be?

I'm assuming their own?

 

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Penn Entertainment to construct $100 million hotel at Hollywood Casino Columbus

 

A new hotel will be constructed at one of Central Ohio's largest entertainment venues.

 

Penn Entertainment Inc. (Nasdaq: PENN) announced Monday that it plans to build a $100 million hotel at Hollywood Casino Columbus, which is located on Georgesville Road on the city's west side. The hotel will be attached to the existing property and will feature 180 rooms in addition to new food and beverage options.

 

Construction is expected to begin in late 2023 and is subject to regulatory approval, according to a news release.

 

The project is expected to create 100 permanent jobs, as well as hundreds of temporary construction jobs.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/10/11/new-hotel-hollywood-casino-columbus.html

 

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33 minutes ago, -noragrets- said:

Meant to post this to the Hilltop thread..

 

You originally did post in the Hilltop thread but it was moved to the Westland thread because this is considered Westland 😉

Do we have any idea how tall this thing will be?

5 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

Do we have any idea how tall this thing will be?

No idea, but would take a guess at 4-5 stories 

5 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

No idea, but would take a guess at 4-5 stories 

 

Yea, I was thinking like 5-6 stories. Still great to see a hotel finally going in though!

100 million seems a lot for 180 rooms.  I hope it is relatively tall, but I have my doubts.

4 minutes ago, Toddguy said:

100 million seems a lot for 180 rooms.  I hope it is relatively tall, but I have my doubts.

There other hotels are not very tall, so I wouldn’t expect this one to be. M


Edit: never mind they do have some that are decent height, but still am not expecting much. 

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I don't know. This might actually be something worth having hope for. The 168 Room, 12 Story Canopy downtown cost $34 million according to a 2018 biz journals Article. 

 

Hilton 1.0 cost $140 million (for 536 rooms).

 

The standard hotel is less than $20 million. 

 

Remember that Penn National already secured height variances years ago in the same way Easton did. (If my memory serves me correctly, that is)

 

It doesn't have to be anything crazy but as long as it give some cohesive 'oomph', it will be an improvement.  I would think that they would have included features such as a conference/event center or theater in the announcement that could drive up costs but perhaps it's buried in there. If not, it really seems to be another area of missed opportunity to have a proper theater for guest acts that make the casino circuit. 

 

Curious indeed. 

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14 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

I don't know. This might actually be something worth having hope for. The 168 Room, 12 Story Canopy downtown cost $34 million according to a 2018 biz journals Article. 

 

Hilton 1.0 cost $140 million (for 536 rooms).

 

The standard hotel is less than $20 million. 

 

Remember that Penn National already secured height variances years ago in the same way Easton did. (If my memory serves me correctly, that is)

 

It doesn't have to be anything crazy but as long as it give some cohesive 'oomph', it will be an improvement.  I would think that they would have included features such as a conference/event center or theater in the announcement that could drive up costs but perhaps it's buried in there. If not, it really seems to be another area of missed opportunity to have a proper theater for guest acts that make the casino circuit. 

 

Curious indeed. 

I will hope for something along the lines of what ColDayMan posted(but not as tacky looking)but will prepare to be disappointed. This is the Westland area we are talking about. It seems nothing really good or nice happens in this area. I would love to be proven wrong though. 

I would think they would want a tower tall enough that it acts as a beacon - perhaps visible from I-70.

I suppose it just depends on the footprint.  It can go many different directions.  For example, the Junto Hotel going up in Franklinton has 198 rooms, while the new AC Hotel on Park Street has 160.

AC Hotel 160.jpg

Junto Hotel 198.png

17 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

I don't know. This might actually be something worth having hope for. The 168 Room, 12 Story Canopy downtown cost $34 million according to a 2018 biz journals Article. 

 

Hilton 1.0 cost $140 million (for 536 rooms).

 

The standard hotel is less than $20 million. 

 

Remember that Penn National already secured height variances years ago in the same way Easton did. (If my memory serves me correctly, that is)

 

It doesn't have to be anything crazy but as long as it give some cohesive 'oomph', it will be an improvement.  I would think that they would have included features such as a conference/event center or theater in the announcement that could drive up costs but perhaps it's buried in there. If not, it really seems to be another area of missed opportunity to have a proper theater for guest acts that make the casino circuit. 

 

Curious indeed. 

 

I just looked this up -- the zoning allows for a hotel of up to 375 ft in height. The hotel structure is the only part of the complex allowed to exceed 60 ft in height.

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